Rubin: Reyes has completely torn hamstring tendon, might need surgery
What is going on?? Seriously, something is wrong here.
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The curse of the Grission
Think (Page?) made an astute observation on when the curse hit. The grission comment on Wright. The question is how to rid us of the Omar?
Adam Rubin
Lobby for Reyes to get surgery
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 28, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
i find myself using that phrase in daily conversation
much to the confusion of my friends
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he was just dealing with scar tissue....
wtf is going on? Is this the medical staff and their failure to properly watch over the players and evaluate them. Or is this the players fault for not mentioning anything and everything whenever something doesn’t feel right…
This shit is fucking ridiculous. It’s become a joke. Their the Clippers of the MLB. Defining all odds, someone still manages to get hurt. These players to take conditioning 101.
by dulciusEXasperis on Aug 28, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't say we are the clippers of the MLB
I think that title belongs to the Nats
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 28, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
the perfect ending to this season of fail
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what's going on, (from the link, emphasis min)
The Mets aren’t resigned to Reyes undergoing surgery just yet, although the decision is looming. Reyes, who is presumed to be out for the year, continues to get treatment, with physical therapists trying to break up scar tissue that is irritating the severed tendon and causing significant pain.
if the tendon is severed
isnt it only a matter of time before it gives out anyway? why wouldnt they go with surgery? This seems like a stopgap so he can play until it totally gives out on him, which is stupid.
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 28, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Because they only presume he will be out for the year
they still think he could come back. Someone shut him down, shut down Beltran too, tell the fans that Reyes and Beltran are gamers that want to come back but for the good of their and the teams future we have decided to shut them down against their will as the season is already lost. You can still buy tickets as the lines to Shake Shack are now shorter and Thole will be here soon.
LOL...Damn, you beat me to it!!!
I can only hope this will lead to another Omar press conference.
So the question is this:
Did the Mets crack training staff misdiagnose the injury to begin with, or did they rush him back to soon there-by causing him to re-aggravate the injury.
Either way this doesn’t look good for the Mets training staff which is already suspect to say the least.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
What the hell is going?
and might need surgery? It’s a torn hamstring! Get the damn surgery!
Just know, if there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
From the article
While hardly ideal, surgery is not necessarily as ominous as it might sound. That tendon is expendable, and is sometimes partly removed and inserted into the elbow when a pitcher undergoes Tommy John surgery.
Here is a horrifying thought...
let’s say they remove the tendon…..
this being the Mets, and the operation performed by Mets doctors, it only seems reasonable that Reyes will then need TJ surgery (blows out his arm throwing to first), and then they realize that tendon is no longer available.
Hey, it could happen.
by fxcarden on Aug 28, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From Jim Baumbach in Newsday
The last official reasoning the Mets gave was Aug. 5 when they said an MRI revealed "significant scar tissue and inflammation behind the right knee." That statement attributed the pain to a "hamstring tendon injury" that Newsday’s David Lennon reported today is a tear.
We hear a lot about hamstrings and about tendons in sports, but rarely do we hear about hamstring tendons. The most notable case of a New York baseball player who suffered a torn hamstring tendon is Jorge Posada, yet his injury didn’t even send him to the disabled list.
Not sure exactly how accurate this is
or how pertinent it is to this particular case.
But a lot of what I’ve been hearing with regards to the Mets training staff is that the issue is not mis-diagnosis per-say. It’s more of an issue of mis-communication rather than mis-diagnosis. Which leads me to believe that they are struggling to help the players set boundaries and realize how hard they can push themselves, which may explain why there have been so many apparent injury aggravations
"A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and the portals of discovery." - James Joyce
Nobody knows what the fuck is going on
especially Omar and co.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
The incompetence just never ends
I wish we could convince the WIlpons to sell. Then we might get bought by someone who cares about, you know, fielding a healthy team of players and not being stupid and rushing players through injury recovery. Because God forbid we should field a lineup without any of the Big 4.
I wonder if Omar thinks that the fanbase will vanish into thin air if he actually made an intelligent decision about his player’s long term health and shelved all our walking wounded before any of their varied and numerous injuries get worse and end their career. The organization doesn’t seem to get that whatever hit they would have taken for not attempting to rush the injured back to duty is nowhere near the hit they will take if Beltran’s or Reyes’s injury worsens and keeps them out for a good chunk of next year too, or worse, ends their careers.
Apologies for the hyperbole, but this kind of treating players like machines that can just be patched up and sent day after day, week after week when they are injured (Beltran) or just tinkered with a little and rushed back to service (Reyes). That sort of approach doesn’t work for completely healthy players; witness Stokes’ giving up a HR today after pitching several days back to back, or the mini-collapse of the bullpen (specifically Feliciano, Green, Parnell) earlier this season from overuse. If that approach is bogus for basically healthy players, what makes this organization think that it will work for players who are injured, some seriously. And I won’t even get started on the possible willful misdiagnosing or mistreating of injuries (i. e., Putz getting a cortisone shot instead of surgery). More than anything else this season, this sort of behavior has driven me absolutely up the wall.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Aug 28, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Seriously, what the fuck??
There’s just no excuse whatsoever for all of these injuries. If there’s a single member of the medical/training staff still with the team come spring, then the Wilpons have learned nothing. A few weeks ago, a Yankee fan friend of mine mentioned that Reyes might have a really awesome career if he played for a team whose medical staff had gone beyond using leeches. I’m starting to think that medieval medicine would actually be a step up for us.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 29, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions
I don't believe it can possibly be the doctors
The doctor’s they are partnered with are some of the best in the US. I personally think the issue has been more managements unwillingness to realize the season is lost and being overly aggressive with the treatment options. I’m sure the docs give them options for treatment and explain the ramifications, but they can’t actually force them to do anything.
Now, if it came out that the doctors actually said for instance that it was best for Beltran to keep playing till the pain was unbearable that would leave them to blame, but nothing like that has been said.
Perhaps you could get after the trainers for the conditioning regimens or something of that nature, but you don’t know that they are actually doing a bad job. Sometimes, despite the best conditioning, stretching etc you get injured.
My point is mostly that unless you actually have factual evidence of the trainers etc being incompetent, the fact that there are injuries doesn’t prove they are to blame.
Rather die buy a Rebel bullet..
Than by Mets Quackery.
Do the Mets even have a medical staff? I see these guys like the old career builder commercial with the monkeys
Jerry and Omar assclowns for life
by Ghost of seven in a row on Aug 29, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions
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