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New York Mets at Chicago Cubs, Aug 29, 2009 4:10 PM EDT




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Bobby Parnell

#39 / Pitcher / New York Mets

6-4

200

R

R

Sep 08, 1984



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Bobby Parnell 3-6 58 4 0 0 1 4 62.0 71 37 35 5 30 50 5.08 1.63


Ryan Dempster

#46 / Pitcher / Chicago Cubs

6-2

215

R

R

May 03, 1977



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Ryan Dempster 7-7 23 23 0 0 0 0 143.2 141 75 65 18 54 122 4.07 1.36

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Stop, Wrench time!

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

ha

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a terrible pitch to swing at mr. GDIP

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

bNo, is that you?

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Aug 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Aug 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

K

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I could watch this game

but I don’t want to go through the pain

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

and the schnieder line continues to plummet

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

i say

.150/.244/.296

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say he drops below .125

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

his OBP or average?

fine .100/.196/.225

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

average

.125/.200/.240

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit nice play

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

damn, nice play

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

how does parnell only have 4 AB combined in his starts

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

i doubt he had an at-bat in that san diego game

maybe not one against atlanta; 1 against the phillies i’d guess, 2 against the giants, and 1 in that relief appearance where he got that hit

by clip on Aug 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs

we’ve been bad and injury ravaged, the cubs have just been bad, especially since for wahile they were doing really well

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats up with all these bugs

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

also

Doesn’t Bill Webb direct the SNY games too?

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

these dragonflies are really ridiculous

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

damn, 98 on the gun

just wish he would find the strike zone more

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

So, how many innings for Parnell?

I say 5, 4 ER

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

5, 2 ER, 2 unearned

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

and 2 unearned

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just walked fucking Ryan Dempster

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

KK

not bad

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

In play, run(s)

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

2-2

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Bradley doubles

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Hello hello is there anybody out there?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

damn

they are torching him, good thing the wall isn’t any closer

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

that would be horrible

if i had to see an outfield with francoeur and bradley i’d stop watching

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is a pretty horrible thought

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

revised prediction

4 innings 6 runs

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, its tough to make Parnell look good

but Dempster is certainly trying

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

razor shines fail

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

that was dumb

why did they send tatis?

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Razor held him

even pointed him back to the bag. Tats lost his mind.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's shit like this that separates a good team from a shit team....

you can say all you want about the core being injured, but I could totally see Reyes doing exactly the same as Tatis.

by fxcarden on Aug 29, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

really?

have you ever seen reyes do it once?

by firejerrymanuel on Aug 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, last season in San Francisco

I forget what date though. And he didn’t hesitate quite as much. I don’t think Tatis was even looking at Razor when he started again

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

so one time

you kind of remember

in how many years?

by firejerrymanuel on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

you asked me for one

I gave you one. He’s done it a bunch of times, and not just this year or last year. People don’t notice cause he’s fast enough that it’s usually a close play. He is not a smart baserunner.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

no you didn't

you said, “uh, he did it once, i just don’t remember when”

by firejerrymanuel on Aug 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

run thru stop signs ?

plenty of times……

and early this year he made plenty of stupid baserunning plays.

by fxcarden on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

very convincing

“uhh, i can’t name any… uhh…. but they definitely happened.”

by firejerrymanuel on Aug 29, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you want me to do, go back and point them out for you ?.

that’s stupid.

Reyes fucks up plenty of times. Everyone who follows the Mets has seen him stick his head up his ass plenty of times He’s a good player, but he would be a FAR BETTER player if he put some (any) level of thought into his own game.

by fxcarden on Aug 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, you're either blind or not a mets fan to not notice that reyes makes a lot of mistakes on the basepath

its not taking anything away from his talent, he’s an incredibly skilled baseball player, but he needs to use his brain.

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this game

that’s really not a discriminator.

This is like a Mets-Cubs game in the late 70’s.

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only game I saw this year

was us losing at the Natinals. That was bad, too.

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

NY or Denver?

My wife and I are thinking of moving to Denver (insert school system joke here) and want some on-site opinions of the area,

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

im in NY

ive got a couple friends out in denver who really seems to like living out there, but dont know that much about the area

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 29, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been there a few times.

Don’t know shit about the school system, but it is beautiful out there.

Where are you thinking ?.

by fxcarden on Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enjoy the game

I have to go mow the lawn

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing that's worth noting...

is that players as bad as the ones we have are bad for a variety of reasons. It’s not just that they lack athletic ability. They also usually make a lot of bad plays. Making the right play is a skill/talent.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 29, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm confused by something McCarver said on FOX

I know, it’s McCarver. But… I swear he opened the broadcast by saying this is the latest in the year the Mets and Cubs have ever met.

Didn’t we clinch in ’73 between games of a make-up DH at Wrigley? Am I misremembering?

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

That thing about Hill's hand is kind of ridiculous

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

he severed all five fingers in a carpenting accident

and had them surgically reattached

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well turned by Murph

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 29, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah nice play

i really wish his bat would match his glove

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

he usually screws up that play

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

his defense is pretty good at first

his bat leaves something to be desired at first

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 29, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still like that picture perfect swing he has.

He may not be a .320 hitter, but I don’t think he’s a .260 hitter, either. I don’t think this is sheer regression to the mean — it’s early career inconsistency that (I hope) will flatten out in the high .280s.

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd like to think thats true

but i’ll remain skeptical until he shows some consistency

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 29, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't really matter to be honest

since if he’s a low power .280 hitter we can’t afford him at first anyway.

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he's coming off the bench that's great.

If he’s starting… not so much… unless he wakes up one day as John Olerud.

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think anyone will ever be another Olerud

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

thx, i forgot about that

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

what

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

sry, Half*

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Parnfail

what a shot that was

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

you'll get em next time bobby

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

we'll see

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

still my favorite met

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parnell fucking sucks as a starter

This should be the end of the experiment

by Syler on Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

who should be in his rotation spot then

this isnt much of an experiment- its more of a “we don’t have anyone else to start, so how about this guy” thing

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

how stupid is jerry?

stupid enough to think parnell could start.

so did warthen apparently, which is even more damning of his shitty job.

well, at least they’re killing his trade value and his confidence.

by firejerrymanuel on Aug 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 29, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking being the operative word

as in fucking with our faith

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parns is short one pitch

I think he could be a decent back-end starter if he can develop a change. Right now everything is the same speed. His fastball is ML quality. The slider is quality. He lacks a 3rd pitch and so batters square him up.

The question is whether he can develop a pitch or if he’s better left as a 7th or 8th inning guy with two above average pitches.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 29, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm speaking more generally

He’s mostly a fb/sl pitcher iirc. He’s working on the other pitches. Fox hit his GS off a hanging slider after Parnell whipped off two devastating sliders in a row for swings and misses. He then hung one.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 29, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The idea is to see if he has a future there.

Well, that and we’re nearly having open try outs at this point.

by Kepler on Aug 29, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gone for 30 minutes and they give up 6 runs?

Parnell is not a starter

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 29, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, a Lance Broadway sighting

he seems to be right at home with the rest of us

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll buy a ticket

for the Broadway bandwagon.

It’s not like there’s anything else going on for a month…

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"

by hotspur on Aug 29, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

just what I wanted to hear

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully that is BS

and the Wilpons are already deep underwater and have to flee to a country with no extradition treaties to escape their creditors

If Freddie had only lost <$100M, he would be chill with telling people about it. You only get ashamed when you lose it all and end up wearing a barrel with suspenders like in the old-timey cartoons.

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"

by hotspur on Aug 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck it

I hope Heilman strikes out the side

by James Kannengieser on Aug 29, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

how are the cubs up again

I left the room for like 2 min and missed the whole top of the inning

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"

by hotspur on Aug 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

hit Heilman

for all he put us through the past few years

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

jeff francoeur's fantasy football tips

is this necessary

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Buck destroys anything good

I think it’s as simple as that

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"

by hotspur on Aug 29, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then add in McCarver

and it just gets even worse

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Buck > Tim McCarver

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

god i hate nick evans

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

stupid question

why did the 3B have to throw it to first after he caught it? it never touched the ground

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Aug 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

my least favorite part

was when that dude hit a grand slam on an 0-2 pitch

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"

by hotspur on Aug 29, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, Brian Stokes Mitchell

I’ve seen him on Broadway a few times

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the pain is over

for now at least

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 29, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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