Stoner Applesauce - Tobi makes Met debut, Sheffield returning, streakers, Brooklyn playoffs

by Joe Budd on Sep 11, 2009 9:04 AM EDT in Link Dump Comment 30 comments

Hey, at least there's some Jet football this weekend...

Meet the Mets

Tobi Stoner made a successful debut in an otherwise atrocious Met game. This is good, actually, a high draft pick that will be protected when they go out and sign some high priced waste of space.

The Queens man who streaked Citi Field wearing nothing but a stuffed monkey has pled guilty and must pay $3,000 as punishment. The guy's boss bet him to do it. Awesome.

Brooklyn's playoff run was a short one.

Gary Sheffield insists that he is coming back for this season. The Met players do appear to be gluttons for punishment.

Jon Heyman got a little hot stove buzz going already when he said the Mets wanted to trade Castillo and repeat last offseason's Orlando Hudson plan.

Doc Gooden will be coaching a pitching academy for the Newark Bears as part of his job. Man. That would be awesome.

Around the NL East

The Phillies rallied, but fell short against the Nationals 8-7.

Phillie "closer" Brad Lidge is working with manager Charlie Manuel to figure out his role for the rest of the year.

Phillies Nation rates their competition's pitching staffs.

Atlanta rocked Astro ace Roy Oswalt to the tune of 10 hits in 2 innings, and providing support for Derek Lowe.

Chipper Jones may want to retire next year if things continue to be mediocre in Atlanta.

Around MLB

The Royals may have lost Brian Bannister for the season.

USA Today picks up on the walk-off celebration controversy.

The Wall Street Journal picks up on a trend: good ball clubs can charge more for a beer.

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Celebrations

I’m not totally bothered by them, even if they are overdone. What I find silly though is the general celebration where everyone gathers around homeplate, and they all form a circle around the guy who hit the homer, and then they jump around like a bunch of girls at a Justin Timberlake concert. I don’t remember exactly when that started to be the norm, but I seem to remember it becoming common around 2000. That really needs to stop.

by dcmetsfan on Sep 11, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bill Simmons had a funny bit recently, suggesting everyone switch to another sport's signature celebration.

baseball players could sink to their knees, arms raised, after a homer, a la tennis, a golfer could do the baseball jump-up-and-down-in-a-circle with his caddy.

by SuperT on Sep 11, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't that like the Giants jumpshot sack celebration

by Sokojoe on Sep 11, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

aw

i think it’s cute.

by letsgocyclones on Sep 11, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Castillo

I admire how Castillo bounced back this season, and was one of the few (only?) bright spots.

But, we have to trade him this off-season. His value will never be higher for us, and I’m not looking forward to watching him at 2B for two more years.

by Mex_17 on Sep 11, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's definitely going to regress next year

but I dont know if the Mets will get anything more than another bad contract in return. And then they’ll sign Hudson to an equally bad deal.

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 11, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

idk

i don’t think you ever have to trade someone who just batted .315-.320 for you. granted, his value will be higher now than it was last offseason but it still won’t be very good considering his age and contract. so basically it would be a contract dump where we get little, if any, value back.

at that point IMO you hold him and hope that he can have even close to this type of year next season, which is reasonable as ’08 looks more and more like an anomaly rather than the end.

by robcast23 on Sep 11, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno

We went a similar route with Delgado. Instead of being happy we got some production out of him last year, we pressed our luck for just one more year.

by Mex_17 on Sep 11, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Jon Heyman got a little hot stove buzz going"

This phrase somehow made me feel queasy.

by OlStubbleBeard on Sep 11, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey, at least there’s some Jet football this weekend…

If you are counting on the Jets making your year better you may be in for even more disappointment.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Sep 11, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Go Giants!

Though I do also root for Gang Green, it helps my sanity tremendously that I’m a Giants fan. And the best part is on Monday I’ll get to hear all the Skins fans crying about the Skins’ loss on Sunday.

by dcmetsfan on Sep 11, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm the opposite

A Jets fan who roots for the Giants. I’m never completely sane, but I have my moments.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 11, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish

I could root for the Giants to have at least one winner in my life, but the Jets it is. Although living in Boston, I will be forever grateful to the Giants for ruining the Pats perfect season.

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 11, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

When did Orlando Husdon become a leader?

Leadership = WS rings
Castillo 1 WS ring
Hudson 0 WS rings

Castillo > Hudson at leadership

by Reg Dunlop on Sep 11, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Latinos can't be leaders

It’s in the rule book.

I hate racism

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 11, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

their only pussies who milk it

STREOTYPES SUCK ASS. Baseball writers are racists. I’m looking at you, Murray Chass

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 11, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Castillo

is becoming a horrible fielding 2nd baseman and it’s happening fast. He cannot go to his left to save his life, and he’s never been great to his right. And lately, he’s not quick enough to spin and get the runner. Even in his “awesome year” he can’t get his OPS to even .760. He’s been lucky with babip this year, very lucky. Add to that the fact that he’s lazy all hell in the field. I’d be fine with getting rid of him and going another direction if they can get anything of value. He’s not a difference maker anymore.

by David G on Sep 11, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OPS is flawed and we all know it

His wOBA is .345 10th in the league and higher than Orlando Hudson and Brandon Phillips. And everyone ahead of him, sans Felipe Lopez, would all be considered elite offensive second basemen, Utely, Zobrist, Cano, Kinsler, Pedroia, Uggla, Roberts and Hill, you can’t ask him to be better than them. And his BABIP hasn’t been “very” lucky, .351, his career is .334. I wouldn’t say .017 points is very lucky especially when his .269 BABIP last year probably brought it down a good amount. I’m not saying Castillo is the answer at second or that we shouldn’t trade him for anyone, but he is not the problem that needs fixing going into next year. In 2010, as of right now, Castillo is our fourth best player, and if we can get Holliday/Crawford for left and Nick Johnson at first, Castillo at second base is more than acceptable, assuming he doesn’t regress to last year’s level of play.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 11, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

STREOTYPES SUCK ASS. Baseball writers are racists.

Ironic much?

by Cthepitch on Sep 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think that counts as irony.

ain't had enough...

by BlackOps on Sep 12, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 12, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hawaiians!

Now they are leaders!

by Reg Dunlop on Sep 11, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Castillo lobby to be leader

Jerry and Omar assclowns for life

by Ghost of seven in a row on Sep 11, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From Heyman:

“The Red Sox have “every intention” of offering Billy Wagner arbitration, and barring something unexpected, Wagner has every intention of turning it down. He’s projected to be a Type-A free agent, so Boston would walk away with two high draft picks in that scenario. "

by EtSuKe on Sep 11, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

At least we got Chris Carter in that deal.

facepalm

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 12, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about polanco,

jerry hairtson, or counsell?
the mets just have to find to best deal and value.

by EtSuKe on Sep 11, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking about Polanco

I think he would be perfect for us. He’s great defensively and coming off a down year offensively so he probably could be had for 3-4 million per on a one or two year deal. I would much prefer to have Polanco at 3 million than Hudson at 11 or Luis at 6

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 11, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tobi?

Tobi? Tobi Wong. Tobi Wong? Tobi Wong. Tobi Chung? Fucking Charlie Chan. I got Madonna’s big dick coming out of my left ear, and Tobi the Jap… I don’t know what – comin’ out of my right.

by keepcoolbutcare on Sep 11, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank you

Harvey Keitel

by James Kannengieser on Sep 11, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The reeling Phillies get the Mets this weekend at Citizens Bank Park. What could be a better antidote for a struggling ball club than playing the Mets in September? I’m sure we will find a way to make Brad Lidge look consistent (Not an easy task I must add), to make Jamie Moyer look like Nolan Ryan, to make Eric Bruntlett look like Omar Vizquel (Check), and to help Raul Ibanez set his career high in homers in a season.

by mfrank1000 on Sep 12, 2009 3:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs