Open Thread: Mets vs Phillies
by Eric Simon on Sep 12, 2009 3:14 PM EDT
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New York Mets at Philadelphia Phillies, Sep 12, 2009 4:05 PM EDT
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Over/Under on Pelfrey innings?
6 3 runs 2 of them earned
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 12, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With Valdez playing SS
I’m saying 0 ER
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
by Sam Page on Sep 12, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was out and on the drive home
WFAN came on with their sports update…..they were talking about the pitcher from the Rays dominating the Yanks thru almost 6 innings on just 72 pitches, and the dude giving the update said….“Sometimes Oliver Perez throws 72 pitches in one inning”.
I kid you not.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Moyer is starting, and it's raining
does that mean Pedro will relieve him and get the win ?.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sitebot is on a roll today
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 12, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Moyer is 0-1 with a 13,50 era in 2 starts vs the Mets this year
David is hitting .432 lifetime with 3 home runs against him.By that logic Moyer will throw a one-hitter and David we be 0-5 with 5 K’s
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least Pelfrey has beaten Philly thrice this year
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howie works for FOX now?
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's just doing the game today as a fill in
Most of the FOX announcers are doing football tomorrow
by Syler on Sep 12, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta watch this
Some unbiased commentating for once
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 12, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a treat.
Too bad Phillips is not in the booth. I was hoping Howie would bitch slap him.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillips works for ESPN
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VOLTRON
woo
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW!!!!
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 12, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still can't believe
they signed Moyer to a two year contract.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not ?.
We signed Ollie to a 3 year contract. We compete even in the bad contract dept.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man
Beltran just makes playing baseball look so easy
by Joamiq on Sep 12, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Howie, please
don’t start gushing about the Phillies.
just don’t.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Wanted Unbiased commentating
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 12, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice catch
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Howie just said the Mets need players with more grit, like Shane Victorino.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, it's true, but its shocking to hear Howie say it.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why
Listening to Howie on the Fan, he’s right at home with Wayne and Tim McCarver, and even Steve Phillips. He is squarely on the bullshit wagon.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when he does radio for the Mets he is a lot more passionate about the Mets.
today the mets jumped to a decent lead and he was like …. bleh.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't be a cheerleader on national TV
by Syler on Sep 12, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m beginning to think people call Victorino gritty cuz he’s got “victor” in his name.
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that Howie Rose on Fox???
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize how stupid and obnoxious he was until he was on Fox.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mccarver says
you can’t trade for players like victorino.
you can only claim them in the rule 5, offer them back, have the team deny them, and then send them to the minors.
by firejerrymanuel on Sep 12, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Victorino
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that Howie Rose
who said the Mets need to get more of " the get jersey dirty type player?"
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hit the mute button after he said that
Just put the volume back on… I will probably regret that decision
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
generic term for a player with good intangibles
frankly i dont get why people treat intangibles like a joke, any team is better when they’re more cohesive, have better leaders, harder-playing players, etc
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or bullpens
that are good.
bullpens are intangible
by firejerrymanuel on Sep 12, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lobby for intangible measurement as part of SABR metrics.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually how about
we use both, they dont have to be exclusive
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Intagibles is bullshit
Jeter’s leadership ability has been indoctrinated into baseball lovers everywhere. Why? Because he was a part of a team that won four championships, because he was the new, young player on the team, and because he was good. None of that makes him a leader, and if you go back and follow everything he’s done, he’s completely dismissed his 3rd basemen because he didn’t like him when a leader would’ve stuck up for him, but that doesn’t matter because the media annointed him a leader. If you win, you have intangibles, if you lose you don’t, it’s that simple.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think what they mean is that he leads on the field.
as in by example. you know….diving head first into the seats to catch a foul pop….things like that.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He took three full strides before going into the stands
Any intelligent person would’ve have slid.
And on another note, fuck Jeter, David Wright actually caught a ball that would have landed in the stands in Seattle a few years ago and he jumped into the stands to do it.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're wrong on the slide
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200805122685729
but…this is a Mets blog. Let’s move on from Jeter.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He absolutely could have slid after he caught the ball.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the biggest problem I have with that play
Is that is considered to be a wonderful play, and for Jeter it was a great catch, but a faster shortstop gets to the ball quicker and makes the play look easier.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seriously doubt that Jeter is unique in diving into stands
He is one of many players who does this. Wright made a play where he broke his face diving into the stands for a pop-up. He was heralded as a winner in 2006 (his least valuable—though most clutch—year in the league other than 2009). He is the same player in 2009 (effort-wise, not productionwise) but he’s a problem because he’s soft, coincidentally, his team sucks during this period as well.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Intangibles is bullshit"
Are you honestly doubting the existence of intangibles? Players are people, therefore there is a psychological aspect to the game, an intangible aspect to each player. Some teams are more cohesive than others.
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if the players are good it won't matter
Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent hated each other and they still came within a game of winning the world series. It doesn’t matter that they aren’t cohesive, as long as they’re good. It’s not football where one guy depends on another to protect him and feelings may* get in the way, there is no interaction like that in baseball.
And I say “may” because they are still professionals and both want to win.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why I lobby for a stat for intangibles.
what should we call it ?.
Omars ?
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a question or four for you Metsguy234
Why do you think the Mets lack """grit""" and """intangiables"""? (I used multiple quote marks to emphasize the degree to which I think this is a bullshit meme)
How would these """intangiables""" help the team in terms of getting wins? How many """gritty""" players would it take to get the wins, and what is the process through which the wins will come?
What do you think is the extent to which the Mets problems are """intangiables""" vs. bad management and talent? If the answer is less than 80%-20%, then why do idiots like Rose and McCarver pump up this shit so much?
Finally, if McCarver is so stupid as to think that Victorino is better than Reyes.why should we not treat what he says as the opposite of reality?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the mets problem is threefold
1) bad players
2) bad management
3) lack of leadership on the team
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in that order from most contributing to least contributing
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you fix the first one
The team wins games, fix the last one, there’s no difference. Fix the second one and you fix the first one and the team wins games.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very uncohesive teams will not be successful
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See Yankees 1977
Lack of cohesion can margianally affect a team’s effectiveness. But people who don’t like each other can play well together very well.
The thing is that the press simply pretends that all winning teams are gritty and cohesive and non-winners fragmented and alienated or lazy. First they invent the correlation, then they falsely present causation.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If black people were always allowed to play baseball
and there was two or three on the Tigers with Ty Cobb who hated black people, Ty Cobb would still be the same great player he was, regardless of his teammates.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, give me percentages
I would say:
95% bad management that does not know how to build a team with 4 spuperstars and 140 million dollars. (including Jerry Manuel being a dolt)
4.9% players: Wright is the only one having a bad enough season where you can blame him.
0.1% grit, and I’m being generous.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the Yankees game the text poll was
What do you like most about Derek Jeter?
Offense
Defense
Leadership
Leadership came in first, followed by Defense, followed by Offense
by supermets on Sep 12, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that poll. Leadership was 58% and Offense was 8%
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or when they don't have 40 year old lefties completely choke down the stretch
by Syler on Sep 12, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you can't quantify that,
you don’t know who will be a good leader until their on your team and ff you have great players it won’t matter if they hate each other or not.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
30 pitches
not a single breaking ball
by firejerrymanuel on Sep 12, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
35 pitches
all fastballs.
this is fucking pathetic.
by firejerrymanuel on Sep 12, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's calling the game?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently he has 6 pitches
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pelfrey
He throws a hard four-seam fastball at speeds up to 98 mph, a sinker, a two-seam fastball, a curveball, a slider, and a circle changeup
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think they're right
maybe he just doesnt throw some very often
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last start
he mixes his pitches, he does awesome.
i blame santos.
what the fuck though.
by firejerrymanuel on Sep 12, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2009 Pelfrey
Bases Empty: .261/.306/.359
Men On: .312/.408/.471
He really can’t pitch from the stretch.
by supermets on Sep 12, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He shouldn't
pitch from the stretch at all. Wind-up all the way, regardless of runners.
by deadspy3 on Sep 12, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last time mets had 5+ hits to start a game
June 25, 1979
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember that 4 run lead we had
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bright side
Orioles won today, so we can gain a game on them
by supermets on Sep 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7 pitches 4 outs
Going back to the last inning
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing against DiMaggio who was great
but why don’t a lot of people get that Mantle was considerably better?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
because Mantle was a drunk, and Joe D. did Marilyn.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Joe did better in the bed that's for sure
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howie Rose is starting to annoy me
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Howie’s been annoying me for more than a decade now.
by Dapoil on Sep 12, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we please have
Schneider catch Pelf from now on
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He worked well with Schneider
his last time out
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's face it.
Thole should be catching today.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And tomorrow
and the next day, and the day after that, and after that, and until the season is over
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think tomorrow is a double header, no ?.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't follow it as closely as i did a few months ago
I just suffer through the games and I’m watching football tomorrow.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By now on
I hope you mean rest of the season, cause I don’t want Schnied back next year
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to worry, he said himself he won't be a Met next year
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 games to go after today.
if we run the table we can finish at .500
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: did anybody see that show on the History Channel last night
about 9/11 called “102 minutes that changed the world” ???
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no but i did see NBC's re-aired 9/11 news coverage
i was too young then to remember much about that day… watching the news coverage was pretty emotionally difficult though
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look this one up. it may be playing again.
it’s unbelievable.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't watch that.
Living through that was once too much for me.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what I thought, too
but this is a collection of home videos put in time sequence.
whole new perspective.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and as I sit here in my home office...
I hear my wife mumbling downstairs…
“typical Mets”
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
14
He 46!! can you at least get on base
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad luck
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God Pelf
Way to make a 4 run lead stand up
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Top 5 draft pick here we come?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If lightning hit now
would we think it’s Omir
or Divine intervention
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank god i won't be watching this Crap
Tomorrow.Football is back.Which means the Mets are even more irrelevant than the were before
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh i dont care for football
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
Gonna be a long winter.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at that douche Victorino
with his gay ass mohawk
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the only problem i have with victorino is
that i feel he overreacted to that dude in wrigley pouring beer on him
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the only problem you have with him?
He has to be the biggest douchebag in the sport. He basically does everything the media accuses Reyes of doing, he shows up the other teams, makes stupid plays, etc.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't imagine someone being a bigger douchebag than
a-rod or manny
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Victorino is
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then these acts of douchebaggery are seriously under-reported
because i havent heard about anything bad he’s done
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha Victorino! You asshole
Cinci lost too. Are we ahead of them (behind them) yet?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
Cincy won too
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do we all hate
shane victorino so much
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is he like matt cerrone
do we hate him for no good reason
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he goosed Jose Reyes
and he is a valuable player who press dolts think is a superstar because of his grit.
And he’s been an asshole, reportedly, since he was a kid.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
"""grit"""
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he's a whiner
and overrated.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great job nicky
i’m lobbying for an evans trade, totally sick of this dude
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how dare howie rose say the phillies get along in the clubhouse
that doesnt affect anything at all!
/sarcasm
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Everybody gets along in a clubhouse when you’re in the home stretch and sitting in first – coming off a world series win.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
quote from a friend of mine when I told him that you guys were calling victorino a douchebag
“Some fans lack brain function though.”
This dude is from Minnesota and isn’t a Phillies fan.
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guys, his friend said that and he isn’t a Phillies fan. I think we’ve been bested.
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the point being that you guys just think he’s a douchebag because he’s a phillie
he really hasnt done anything douchebaggish
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He elbowed Jose Reyes in a double-play attempt
You are a Met fan aren’t you? What’s the point of being a Met fan if you can’t hate a player on a rival team that elbow’s one of your stars?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And remember
the game last year where he was whining at the plate ’cause he almost got hit?
Victorino is a whiner AND overrated.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that Cody Ross?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From wikipedia:
“After being brushed back by Hiroki Kuroda, Victorino began to gesture towards the non-English speaking pitcher that it was alright that he throw inside, just as long as he didn’t do so at his head. After grounding out to second, he continued to gesture at Kuroda and benches from both teams cleared. Victorino quickly became the villain for Dodger fans and was booed each time he came up to bat. After the game, Victorino was fined $2,500 by the league for his part in the incident”
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there you have it.
WHINER.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to show you that I am objective about who I call a douchebag, here is alist of famous Met douchebags
1. Bobby Bonilla
2. Vince Coleman
3. Armando Benitez
4. Tom Glavine
5. Jerry Manuel
6. Ricky Henderson
Need more?
by lstorie1971 on Sep 12, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually liked Billy Wagner, but he was a douchebag
by lstorie1971 on Sep 12, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That I liked him or that he was a douchebag?
by lstorie1971 on Sep 12, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of the statements he made to the media sort of sold his teammates out. That's douchy
by lstorie1971 on Sep 12, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did he say anything that wasn't true ?.
I know he broke “the code” of the clubhouse, but he did speak the truth, no ?.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy was an asshole
no doubt. Just his comments after the game, the whole “Know your place, rook” thing. he was an asshole.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7. Jose Reyes
Great player but I’m absolutely tired of his shenanigans
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're kidding right?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
if I was kidding I’d have put “/sarcasm” at the end of it
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What shenanigans has he done?
Is it the injury or the whole enjoying playing baseball thing? If Jose was white with the name Joseph, people would be talking about his enthusiasm for the game, but since he’s Latin, he’s a crybaby.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's the whole
showing up other teams, and often playing lazily thing
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What showing up other teams?
He dance’s after a home run, Victorino actually turns to the Mets’ dugout and claps in their face after a home run. Nobody hated on Nick Swisher for his dances after home runs, cause he’s white, I sincerely believe that. And what, Reyes didn’t run out a pop up twice in 6 years? That’s lazy? Every player does it, he just got caught cause they dropped?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then you're a moron
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Sep 12, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shenanigans?
Now I know why you like Victorino…..
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has Victornanigans...
let’s not confuse the issue.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saberhagen?
Didn’t he throw bleach at a reporter around 1993 or 94?
Also, Dallas Green and Jeff Torborg, since we’re counting managers, just for destroying a dozen young arms.
by The nye mets are my favorite team on Sep 12, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A CBP Popup
But I’ll take it.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
take that chase utley
that asshole
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh here comes noted douchebag rich dubee
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope we tie
I hope we play 15 innings and a double header tomorrow.
I hope we suck the life out of the Phillies bullpen so the Marlins can catch them.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Charlie Lidge's decision is apparently Ryan Madson for the ninth"
name fail
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so who have we gained on in the standings today?
by RangersandMets on Sep 12, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IF we get out of the 8th
this game has Philly bullpen fail written all over it.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for losing to get a higher draft pick
but I want to destroy the Phillies
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna win, and I want the Marlins to win, too.
They play the Phillies 6 more times. I would love for them to be less than 6 games out when that starts.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to replace the epic Mets collapse with the epic Phillies collapse
by lstorie1971 on Sep 12, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’d like to see the Dodgers collapse and see the Rockies take it in the West.
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Rockies fan come post season
by lstorie1971 on Sep 12, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm and Angels/Tigers fan
the Sox, then Rockies, then Cards/Dodgers, then death. Really, as long as it’s not yanks or phils I’m good
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate the rockies
i want to see the dodgers win the west and the giants take the WC
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't stop Rocktober
You can only try to contain it
by Syler on Sep 12, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what they said about Chris Dudley
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just hate the team
because everyone acts like they are a team filled with scrappy underdogs, when they were in the world series only 2 years ago
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But but but
They lost their best player! Hence, they’re scrappy.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 12, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that here they were 6 games behind in september and went like 20-8?
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i rooted for them in the playoffs that season
i don’t like how they’re still considered underdogs by everyone, that’s why i hate them now
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The “David Eckstein” effect- being constantly called underrated and underdogs they become overrated. But I like ’em.
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
am i the only one here who's gonna be mad if the rockies win the world series
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you’re pretty much a contrarian here.
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lucky play
The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 12, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK YEAH
kiss my ass ryan madson
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOHOO!
The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 12, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
agreed
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just popping on to say
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBS!
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
by Kevin H on Sep 12, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
turned it on just in time to catch that. eat that you philly fuckbags
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If K-Rod blows this game I am going to stab him.
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in a back alley.
hey, its like pelf said, its all part of the game lol
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am terrified.
Just throw a few strikes, please, Frankie
by The nye mets are my favorite team on Sep 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please God pleasee
Don’t make K-rod blow this game
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the sound of the Phillies fans booing. This is as good as it gets like 14 games back
by Jsz on Sep 12, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anything that upsets phillies fans is ok in my book
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
K
nicely done frankie, 1 down, two to go
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BWAHAHAHAHA
Fear the breaking ball.
The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 12, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn it frankie don't walk him
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
phew, thanks for listening
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God here comes the walk
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 down
Losing should be the goal for the rest of the year, but for today, f—k it, this is a great game to win
by Syler on Sep 12, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
It makes it even better than Wright had 2 bombs and Beltran had another
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, wright is finally in double digits in HR, sweetness
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't realistically catch Baltimore
They’re 4 games “up” for the #4 pick, but they’ve got 7 with Tampa, and I think 6 with the Yankees, which makes things tough. Cleveland’s realistic at 2 up, so #5’s doable.
by The nye mets are my favorite team on Sep 12, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES! GO BLUE!
The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 12, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forcier to Mathews with 16 seconds left
and Michigan is going to win.
The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 12, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that breaking ball he's got going is sick
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good job guys
now let’s get a win for the fish tonight
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PIITB!!!
eat that phillies
happy dance
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PIITB!
Sweet!
The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Sep 12, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
best win of the season
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked the Fenway win better, but this one is awesome
by fxcarden on Sep 12, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But this one was against the Phillies who i think we all hate.Yeah we are out of the race to beat them like this
Gangsta
by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 12, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
think I'm gonna join MLB.TV
just to watch this game. And yes I agree the Fenway win was pretty sweet
by bones_boy on Sep 12, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Homeruns provide MOMENTUM???
Jeff Francoeur is shocked!
by Syler on Sep 12, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+10000
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
spoiler time
I hope we win the doubleheader tomorrow and the marlins win their next two. I’d rather the marlins get in then philly
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 12, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
same
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Sep 12, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you're with us here at least
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
that was entertaining.
Nice effort boys.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 12, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have rarely watched Met games since the All Star Game
I’m blessed that I caught this one.
Nice job boys! Now go out there and LOSE SOME GAMES!!!
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Sep 12, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT WE WON?????
I turned it off in the ninth and went out, just got home and saw this. Holy shit.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Sep 13, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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