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Big Game Redding

Tim Redding vs. the Phillies in 2009:

18 IP, 2.00 ERA, 13 K, 5 BB, 0 HR

You thinking what I'm thinking?  3 years, $36 million.

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Stop it.

I’m gonna cry.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 14, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

that's a terrifying thought

bite your tounge

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 14, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Over that period

would he represent better value than Ollie?!

by deadspy3 on Sep 14, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Omar, scott boras on line one

i can’t wait to read the book; i hope there’s a part about the marketability of the beard.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Sep 14, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definite

potential for either nu-metal or country tie-ins! Or both!

by deadspy3 on Sep 14, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

kill me.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't happen

Tim Redding is white. We all know Omar hates white players.

by Reg Dunlop on Sep 14, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

who would kiss that beard?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

my girlfriend, possibly

my beard makes Redding’s chin wig look like something he drew on in marker, Theo Huxtable style.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 14, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

now i'm intrigued.

i would like to see this legendary beard.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sign him, and start him againt the Phillies only

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

between which he does long relief to keep his pitching arm in shape

it wouldn’t be the worse decision we’ve ever made…. wait, who am I kidding here

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 14, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It beats Perez

basically, you have to start him 2 out of 3 games against the Phillies (it can be done with today’s technology)

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Redding career vs Phillies

83.2 IP
61 H
4 HR
31 BB
55 K
3 HBP
1.100 WHIP
3.01 ERA, and 5-4 in 14 starts
This is about a 4.38 FIP
could we do worse?
Hell yeah

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

83.2 IP and 14 starts is half a season

and it’s based over his whole career, I think it’s a big enough sample
Though where is that article about benchmanrks that make constants it was on fangraphs?
(after 600 PA OBP is contstant, etc)

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

half a season=/= a large enough sample for almost anything significant.

And so what, his other 127 career starts are discarded? That’s the problem with matchup stats. They don’t mean SHIT.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, they do mean shit after a while

I’m just saying that in 83.2 innings he’s been good better than average.
Maybe he sucks for the next 100 innings
how big of a sample size do you want?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter how much it is.

Because the fact of the matter is that when you cherry pick stats like that, where your only representing 10% of his total starts…it’s just not a good way to display talent.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if you wanted to ignore the cherry picking fact and make a sample size argument

here’s how many BF is takes for .50 r-sqaured to be reached via Pizza Cutter’s research via thehardballtimes

K/PA: 150 BF
GB%: 150 BF
LD%: 150 BF
FB%: 200 BF
GB/FB: 200 BF
K/BB: 500 BF
IF FB%: 500 BF
BB/PA: 550 BF
BABIP: Doesn’t reach a 0.50 r-squared at 650 or below.
HR/FB: Doesn’t reach a 0.50 r-squared at 650 or below.

In his career, Redding has faced roughly 350 batters so really nothing good has reached .50 r-squared.

by Sokojoe on Sep 14, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay okay

Just wanted to show James’ point a little more

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 15, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

My point is that his great performance this year against the Phillies likely has more to do with random variation than him stepping up in "big games". It was a tongue-in-cheek post that played off the “Oliver Perez steps up his performance in big games” concept that seemed to win over a lot of Met fans last offseason, and apparently the front office too.

by James Kannengieser on Sep 15, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's ok James

Everybody else got it.

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Sep 15, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, good for him

but I still wouldn’t want to see him get a contract based on that alone.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 14, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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