Big Game Redding
by James Kannengieser on Sep 14, 2009 11:00 AM EDT
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Tim Redding vs. the Phillies in 2009:
18 IP, 2.00 ERA, 13 K, 5 BB, 0 HR
You thinking what I'm thinking? 3 years, $36 million.
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Stop it.
I’m gonna cry.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 14, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's a terrifying thought
bite your tounge
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 14, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Over that period
would he represent better value than Ollie?!
by deadspy3 on Sep 14, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If 2009 is any indication:
Redding: +0.3 WAR
Perez: -0.7 WAR
by Eric Simon on Sep 14, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Omar, scott boras on line one
i can’t wait to read the book; i hope there’s a part about the marketability of the beard.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 14, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't happen
Tim Redding is white. We all know Omar hates white players.
by Reg Dunlop on Sep 14, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oliver perez
did more for this franchise than pedro did.
by firejerrymanuel on Sep 14, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess we're still on this?
Total Mets WAR
Perez: 4.4
Martinez: 11.3
by Eric Simon on Sep 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm pretty sure this is totally unrelated to anything anyone said ever.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who would kiss that beard?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my girlfriend, possibly
my beard makes Redding’s chin wig look like something he drew on in marker, Theo Huxtable style.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 14, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now i'm intrigued.
i would like to see this legendary beard.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sign him, and start him againt the Phillies only
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
between which he does long relief to keep his pitching arm in shape
it wouldn’t be the worse decision we’ve ever made…. wait, who am I kidding here
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 14, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It beats Perez
basically, you have to start him 2 out of 3 games against the Phillies (it can be done with today’s technology)
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redding career vs Phillies
83.2 IP
61 H
4 HR
31 BB
55 K
3 HBP
1.100 WHIP
3.01 ERA, and 5-4 in 14 starts
This is about a 4.38 FIP
could we do worse?
Hell yeah
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
83.2 IP and 14 starts is half a season
and it’s based over his whole career, I think it’s a big enough sample
Though where is that article about benchmanrks that make constants it was on fangraphs?
(after 600 PA OBP is contstant, etc)
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
half a season=/= a large enough sample for almost anything significant.
And so what, his other 127 career starts are discarded? That’s the problem with matchup stats. They don’t mean SHIT.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, they do mean shit after a while
I’m just saying that in 83.2 innings he’s been good better than average.
Maybe he sucks for the next 100 innings
how big of a sample size do you want?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 14, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter how much it is.
Because the fact of the matter is that when you cherry pick stats like that, where your only representing 10% of his total starts…it’s just not a good way to display talent.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Sep 14, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if you wanted to ignore the cherry picking fact and make a sample size argument
here’s how many BF is takes for .50 r-sqaured to be reached via Pizza Cutter’s research via thehardballtimes
K/PA: 150 BF
GB%: 150 BF
LD%: 150 BF
FB%: 200 BF
GB/FB: 200 BF
K/BB: 500 BF
IF FB%: 500 BF
BB/PA: 550 BF
BABIP: Doesn’t reach a 0.50 r-squared at 650 or below.
HR/FB: Doesn’t reach a 0.50 r-squared at 650 or below.
In his career, Redding has faced roughly 350 batters so really nothing good has reached .50 r-squared.
by Sokojoe on Sep 14, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay okay
Just wanted to show James’ point a little more
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Sep 15, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
My point is that his great performance this year against the Phillies likely has more to do with random variation than him stepping up in "big games". It was a tongue-in-cheek post that played off the “Oliver Perez steps up his performance in big games” concept that seemed to win over a lot of Met fans last offseason, and apparently the front office too.
by James Kannengieser on Sep 15, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's ok James
Everybody else got it.
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
by Kevin H on Sep 15, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, good for him
but I still wouldn’t want to see him get a contract based on that alone.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 14, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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