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Choosing The Mets "All-Time 9"

To commemorate September 9, 2009 (9/9/09), Major League Baseball released polls to determine the best single-season performance by position in each team's history. The Mets ballot can be found here. Unsurprisingly, the only statistics listed next to the players are batting average, home runs RBI, runs and stolen bases. There is no mention of on-base percentage or slugging percentage, as well as any adjustments for era, park factors, or playing time. Defense is not a factor in this poll and each player is eligible for just 1 nomination. Here is a breakdown of the options as well as my choice for each position (check out Metsmerized for another ballot). Players are listed in order from best wOBA to worst, although that was not the only statistic used to make the selections:

Star-divide

Pitcher

Player Year wOBA wRAA OPS+
Jason Isringhausen 1996 .304 -1.5 87
Dwight Gooden 1992 .291 -1.5 84
Mike Hampton 2000 .264 -5.6 53
George Stone 1973 .248 -2.7 52

 

Selection: Isringhausen

Catcher

Player Year wOBA wRAA OPS+
Mike Piazza 2000 .422 38.8 155
Todd Hundley 1996 .376 21.4 140
Gary Carter 1985 .369 25.5 138
John Stearns 1978 .354 15.2 121
Paul Lo Duca 2006 .343 5.5 102

 

Selection: Piazza

1st Base

Player Year wOBA wRAA OPS+
John Olerud 1998 .429 54.1 163
Keith Hernandez 1986 .383 32.2 140
Donn Clendenon 1970 .378 20.1 129
Carlos Delgado 2008 .364 20.4 127
Eddie Murray 1993 .344 9.3 111

 

Selection: Olerud

2nd Base

Player Year wOBA wRAA OPS+
Edgardo Alfonzo 1999 .386 28.4 125
Gregg Jefferies 1990 .347 14.2 111
Luis Castillo 2009 .346 7.2 103
Wally Backman 1986 .343 7.8 113
Ron Hunt 1964 .341 13.4 118
Jeff Kent 1993 .335 3.7 104

 

Selection: Alfonzo

3rd Base

Player Year wOBA wRAA OPS+
David Wright 2007 .420 53.3 150
Howard Johnson 1989 .416 50.6 169
Robin Ventura 1999 .386 28.4 129
Len Randle 1977 .351 12.9 117
Ray Knight 1986 .344 9.9 115

 

Selection: Wright, with Johnson a very close 2nd

Shortstop

Player Year wOBA wRAA OPS+
Jose Reyes 2006 .367 21.3 115
Kazuo Matsui 2004 .320 -4.2 88
Frank Taveras 1979 .288 -20.8 76

 

Selection: Reyes

Outfield (pick 3, obviously)

Player Year wOBA wRAA OPS+
Darryl Strawberry 1987 .415 47.6 162
Carlos Beltran 2006 .412 42.4 150
Cleon Jones 1969 .406 38.4 151
Bernard Gilkey 1996 .404 38.4 155
Rickey Henderson 1999 .399 26.3 127
Lee Mazzili 1979 .382 31.9 135
Lenny Dykstra 1986 .375 21.6 129
Kevin McReynolds 1988 .375 28.7 142
Roger Cedeno 1999 .374 15.2 106
Bobby Bonilla 1993 .372 21.5 132
Cliff Floyd 2005 .369 22.2 126
Lance Johnson 1996 .369 20.6 125
Rusty Staub 1975 .368 23.5 131
Tommie Agee 1969 .362 22.8 122
Frank Thomas 1962 .360 19.0 118
Dave Kingman 1976 .357 15.6 128

 

Selection: Strawberry, Beltran, Jones (with Gilkey choice 3a; tie goes to Jones because of the 1969 World Series)

Keep in mind this isn't necessarily a collection of the best offensive seasons by position (for instance, Alfonzo's 2000 was better than his 1999).  It's the best lineup selected from MLB.com's ballot.

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Nice to see Jefferies up there

that 1990 season was pretty solid for him. Traded for Felix Jose, that was a dumb move.

by David G on Sep 16, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

dumb move by K.C.

that is. The Mets trade for Saberhagen worked out okay.

by David G on Sep 16, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, that’s a good lineup.

by TheBigStapler on Sep 16, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Good question, here's mine:

Beltran
Wright
Strawberry
Piazza
Olerud
Jones
Alfonzo
Izzy
Reyes

by James Kannengieser on Sep 16, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm old school with pitcher 9th

I’d have that lineup with Reyes leading off.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 16, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud Harrelson 1970

.314 wOBA, -2.5 wRAA, OPS+ 79. I think that beats out Taveras. A light hitter but he walked 95 times that year and had 23 steals.

Harrelson, Taveras, Santana, Elster, Ordonez. Yup, pretty weak, although Elster had a big homer year after he left.

Art Shamsky had a good year in the outfield in 1969: .384 wOBA, 18.4 wRAA, 139 OPS+.

by wobatus on Sep 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jose Vizcaino

in ’95 and ’96 was fairly decent. In ’96 he hit .303 with an OPS+ of 88, although I think that was playing 2b, not ss.

by David G on Sep 17, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without looking at stats aka FROM MY GUT

I voted the same way except Gooden and Gilkey instead of Isringhausen and Jones.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Sep 16, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree

Gilkey dominated that year.

by David G on Sep 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

though I’ve always hated having to put Gilkey on any Mets all-time lists (I never liked him), so I’m glad that there are stats out there that have Cleon ahead of him

by cjmulrain on Sep 17, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea

when I first saw that they had Izzy and Hampton as pitchers and not Seaver or Koosman, I was perplexed – it took me a few minutes to figure out that it was purely hitting based.

by cjmulrain on Sep 17, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Edgardo Alfonzo was the man

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 16, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

+1,000,000

my all-time favorite Met.

by cjmulrain on Sep 17, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus jumping Christ, that MLB list is dumb

They use batting number to choose their pitchers. Why? I was shocked Cone’s 1988 didn’t make it, and then I saw the stats. Just dumb.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 16, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Well it's the best lineup

if defense was factored, it would be a little different I bet.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Sep 17, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your first base calculation is wrong

You forgot to give 50 pts to Keith Hernandez for being Keith Hernandez

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Sep 16, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

a GLARING omission

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Sep 16, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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