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9 Games Applesauce - Omir probably starts for 2010 Mets, Murphy obsession, Valentine to BBTN

No, it's not the offseason yet, and Applesauce hasn't changed to its expected light schedule yet. Just running a little late this morning/afternoon. Enjoy.

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Meet the Mets

The New York Post is reporting that the Mets will likely start Omir Santos at catcher next year. Awesome.

New York Baseball Digest compares the Mets front office to Office Space. This is not that crazy a comparison.

Why are Met fans obsessed with Daniel Murphy

So much for Bobby Valentine managing the Mets next season. He will join the cast of Baseball Tonight.

The Mets' current manager understands simple math.

Check out this guy's sweet hat.

Around the NL East

Phillies' legend Lenny Dykstra was caught by a Japanese news show going to a pawn shop for some cash.

Bobby Cox will give the Braves one more year as manager, before moving to the front office. Larry will believe it when he sees it. Here's some speculation about who will replace him.

Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla is now the first second baseman to hit 30 home runs in 3 straight seasons.

The Nationals came back to beat the Dodgers and stave off their 100th loss, for now.

Brad Lidge blew another save and the Phillies lost.

Around MLB

Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the Cubs are likely to settle up Milton Bradley's contract then try and move him.

The Royals are using quotes from Mariners' manager Don Wakamatsu (who manages Felix Hernandez) to push Zack Greinke's Cy Young candidacy.

Jeff Francoeur's favorite pitcher, Jason Marquis, has struggled so much that he might be left off the Rockies' postseason roster.

Much has been made of the Yankees' infield potentially being the best of all time. Rays Index takes exception to that; the Yankees don't even have the best infield in the AL East.

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Bobby V . . . Heartbreaking

And it’s so on two levels. It means he won’t be managing the Mets, and it means he is going to be analyzing baseball for a show that has now been rendered completely superfluous thanks to the MLB Network. Seriously, because of MLBN I’m not sure if I have watched five minutes of Baseball Tonight.

by dcmetsfan on Sep 24, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Omir, Murphy and Francoeur to start?

That’s about a -100OBP combined, compared to their positiononal averages.

Is the goal to piss away the advantage of having David, Jose and Carlos?

by OlStubbleBeard on Sep 24, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The scariest thing

is going to be when the media blames Wright, Reyes and Beltran for the Mets sucking next year while commending Francoeur, Murphy and Santos for their grission.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 24, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's already happening

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 24, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forget who it was...

but whoever on this site said that when you advocate starting or prominent roles for players like this, you lose the right to complain when the team is bad couldn’t have been more correct.

this team makes me want to cry.

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 24, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Translation: It's a mission for grission

I’m currently working on the all-time grission leaders of the Mets. This will take awhile…

SOS = Same Old Sh*t

by sj10689 on Sep 25, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Murphy?

That’s easy. He’s a white guy who looks serious. The anti-Reyes.

(He’s also the anti-Reyes in that he isn’t good at baseball.)

Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 24, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

And...

he’s an overachiever who loves the game. he works hard.

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 24, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just curious

I know it’s not fair comparing FanGraphs’ WAR and Baseball Projections’ but here it is anyway

2009 Yankees
Mark Teixeira – 5.1 WAR
Robinson Cano – 3.8 WAR
Derek Jeter – 6.7 WAR
Alex Rodriguez – 3.9 WAR
Total – 19.5

1999 Mets
John Olerud – 5.3 WAR
Edgardo Alfonzo – 5.7 WAR
Rey Ordonez – 2.7 WAR
Robin Ventura – 6.7 WAR
Total – 20.4 WAR

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 24, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That was such a bad ass

infield. Even Darryl Hamilton had a really good season in the OF. It is too bad we had slop in the corners and rotation sans Lieter

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Sep 24, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was the best infield ever

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 24, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, memories

The 1999 Mets were easily the best team of my living memory (too young to remember 1986 team). If only they could’ve beaten Atlanta……

Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 24, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only...

http://www.capitolavenueclub.com/

by PWHjort on Sep 24, 2009 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That infield kicked ass

Are those numbers for the current Yankees extrapolated out to the end of the season? If not, it’s conceivable they could accumulate another 1.0 WAR over the next 10 games.

by JoshNY on Sep 24, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember the Yankees infield was assembled for

$90860498328791049843048048
Ours was a lot less

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 24, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

for comparison

1999 Mets
John Olerud – 5.3 WAR
Edgardo Alfonzo – 5.7 WAR
Rey Ordonez – 2.7 WAR
Robin Ventura – 6.7 WAR
Total – 20.4 WAR

2009 Mets
Daniel Murphy .2 WAR
Luis Castillo 1.8 WAR
Wilson Valdez .3 WAR
Anderson Hernandez .1 WAR
David Wright 3.5 WAR (team leader)
Fernando Tatis .8 WAR
Alex Cora -.1 WAR
Carlos Delgado .8 WAR
Jose Reyes .7 WAR
Total: 8.1 WAR

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 24, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gross.

Just know, if there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Sep 24, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why must you put up headlines like "Omir Probably Starting"?!

You really want us to kill ourselves don’t you? I had to do three whiskey shots with a Robitussen chaser after reading that. Are you trying to take the last ounce of faith we have left? Are you trying to send us to Betty Ford or Promises in Malibu? Please…no…more.

by David G on Sep 24, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

As long as Daniel Murphy is flipping burgers at McDonalds

I will be some what happy about the team

Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Sep 24, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Come Next Year

Murphy, I want a number 1 with fries. You understand that? Please ya big goof, dont trip over you own feet with my food.

Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Sep 24, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure?

Maybe there’s a place for him on your beloved Yankees.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 25, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

As opposed to that damn David Wright.

He’s only made millions of dollars and been one of the best players in baseball. But no WS ring. LOSER

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 25, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're bck on this Jermaine Dye thing?

Jermaine Dye sucks. In 14 years he has ~19 WAR. In 6 years David Wright has ~28 WAR.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 26, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol'd, I did.

pawn shop owner: ‘i can’t put a price on this champion ring. It would cost 150000 yen to make this ring, but since it’s lenny’s it would fetch several 10,000,000s of yen. when is this from?’

‘1986 world series’

‘1986 world series. against boston, right?’

‘yep’

"I was so frustrated [Saturday], I [could have said] anything," ~Oliver Perez

by Lance Johnson on Sep 25, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

"Phillies Legend?"

Phillies Legend Lenny Dykstra? Really? Really?

He’s not done anything THAT bad so as to earn that label. He’s still World Champion Met Lenny Dykstra.

by garik16 on Sep 25, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

you're missing the point

if he does something awesome, Joe would call him “1986 World Champion Lenny Dykstra”. when he’s pawning his crap or declaring bankruptcy, he’s “Phillies Legend Lenny Dykstra”.

by JoshNY on Sep 25, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

It might be a while

Before that happens, the way this story is going.

by Joe Budd on Sep 25, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

its dykstras fault

i chew tobacco he really influenced my life as a 9 year old boy in ’86 i couldnt wait to find out what that really cool stuff in his mouth was and try it myself long live lenny

by metsfan1349 on Sep 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have an idea

how bout the mets trade everyone on thier roster over the age of 27 for prospects this offseason, hire whoever managed this years college world series champion, and just play the best of the prospects until they eventually get good. this works for a number of reasons the most important being when they win less then 70 games next season instead of being dissapointed all of theese posts will be congratulating someone on how well they improved and how bright the future looks. also i wont have to hear anyone else at work talk smack about the mets having a gajillion dollar payroll and cant make the playoffs.

by metsfan1349 on Sep 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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