Offseason Non-Tender/Salary Dump Candidates
In a bad economy, many teams are going to face tough choices on how to budget their funds to build the best teams possible. Many intelligent teams are trending toward locking their talented young players up early, and avoiding the arbitration process as much as possible. For some players who are eligible for arbitration, the fact that tendering them a contract would assure they are paid at least 80% of their prior years salary makes their future with their club somewhat cloudy. Many won't recieve a contract offer, while others will likely be moved for financial reasons before salary figures are exchanged. Browsing Cot's, I've come up with a list of guys that may be available this offseason due to arbitration issues.
Jack Cust - He's a solid bat, but he should really be DH'ing. Making 2.8 million this season, he'll likely get a raise in his 2nd season of arbitration. Depending on what Billy Beane decides to do this offseason, Cust could easily be traded to make room for Brett Wallace to make his way to the majors. His value may be lower than it should be due to the raise he'll likely recieve and the renewed defensive focus of most clubs.
Noah Lowry - He made 4.75 million this year, and there's no chance SF tenders him a contract this offseason. He'll likely get a minor league contract somewhere. Could be worth a look, as Buffalo certainly could use the help.
Dan Uggla - He won't be non-tendered, but he is a prime candidate to be traded. He makes 5.35 million, and is entering his 2nd arbitration year. He'd be unlikely to be on this list if he played for any other team, but the Marlins likely can't afford to retain him. They have several other options at 2nd, and getting several players without service time will likely be what they target. The Mets could put him at 1st, or use him at 2nd if they move Castillo.
Jorge Cantu - Making 3.5 million this year, he's been good enough that he'll likely get a raise. He'd likely be offered a contract with most teams, but he may be another player too expensive for the Marlins. With Josh Johnson and Ricky Nolasco both due decent raises this year, the Marlins may be fored to take the best offer they get for Cantu. If he doesn't cost much, he'd be a nice stopgap until Ike is ready.
Jeremy Hermida - Made 2.25 million this season in his 1st year of arbitration. He's a decent hitter that can play either outfield corner. He's likely to be available becuase he's in Florida (who reportedly wants to give more AB's to Maybin), and likely wouldn't cost much to acquire. I'd love to see the Mets go after him if they aren't going to go after Holliday.
Alfredo Amezega - He made 1.3 million entering his final year of arbitration, but if he's not the starting 2nd baseman for tham next year, he's unlikely to be back. The Marlins likely can't afford that type of contract for a utility guy. What happens with the other Marlins will affect Amezega. He'd certainly be a better use of 2 million bucks than Alex Cora.
Scott Olsen - made 2.8 million this year and wasn't very good. He's also got a history of being a generally bad guy. Almost a certainty to be non-tendered, and he likely will have to take a minor league deal. He's another guy that would look good in one of these.
Luke Scott - He won't be non-tendered, but he may very well be traded. The Orioles have a very good young outfield, and could use some other ML ready pieces in other areas. He made 2.4 million in his 2nd arbitration season. He'd be able to play either 1st or LF at a reasonable price, and the Mets would still control him for 2 seasons. He's probably worth a look.
Joe Blanton - He made 5.475 million entering his last year of arbitration. He's pitched well enough to earn a raise, but most would agree that he's probably not worth what he'll get. The Phillies have alot of money commited next season after Lee's option is picked up and Victorino's raise. If they tender Blanton a contract, it likely means they won't be involved in much this offseason. I doubt he's released, and it's even more unlikely he is traded to the Mets. He'd be one of the better pitchers available if he hits the market.
Grant Balfour - He hasn't been good this year, and he made 1.4 million. Can the Rays afford to pay a relief pitcher that much coming off a down year? He'd look nice in the pen next to this Rays re-tread.
Garrett Atkins - He made 7.05 million this year and has 1 more year of arbitration. It's unlikely that the Rockies will get an offer for him, he'll likely be non-tendered. He could be worth a look at 1st.
Mark Teahan - He's a decent hitter without a defensive home. KC has several players like him, and may try to move him if they fear he'd get a raise from his 3.575 million dollar salary. KC may not be able to afford that for a utility player in his walk year. He'd be a good player to have, but maybe not at his salary.
Mike Jacobs - He hits home runs, but doesn't do much else. Even KC has to think twice about bringing him back at more than 3.275 million. He'd make an awfully nice pich hitter late in games.
Bobby Jenks - He made 5.6 million this season, but has been on the decline for several years. He won't be non-tendered but he may be traded. He shouldn't even be considered, but he could affect the Billy Wagner market so it bears watching.
Chien-Ming Wang - He made 5 million this year, and may not have a place in a very crowded Yankee rotation if they want to use Hughes and Joba there. He could very well be non-tendered, but the Yankees might not need to worry about his salary so who really knows. One to watch though, as he is younger than most pitchers available and throws strikes.
Casey Kotchman - He made 2.885 million this year, and won't be very high on Boston's depth chart at first base. He's out of options and could be traded for youngsters or non-tendered if Boston needs 40 man roster space to protect prospects or sign a free agent or two. He probably won't cost much to acquire, and won't be too expensive if he hits the market.
Not all of these guys will be fits for the Mets, but there are certainly some names on that list that could help. With a relatively weak free agent class, some of these guys could be excellent additions. Feel free to discuss who you think would help and who you think may be available.
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All nice options, except for
Balfour.
It’s just the name.
by fxcarden on Sep 28, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
no good pitchers named Walker, either...
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"
There's almost no way Balfour gets non-tendered.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 29, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I put him in the list because I thought they may consider trading him.
They already dumped Kazmir due to his contract, if they feel Balfour may be a 2 million dollar middle reliever I can see them trading him for a cheaper player. The Rays have never been big spenders on the bullpen (Omar should be taking notes).
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 29, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
if you listen to the Rays broadcasts at all, you can tell balfour is starting to fall out of favor mainly due to the fact that he cannot throw strikes.
by Rob Castellano on Sep 29, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cantu could be a good fit
Wang’s shoulder is still a mystery AFAIK and his GB% would be wasted in Citifield.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"
I agree, Cantu is better than a lot of our other options.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
But here's the million dollar question
Which one possesses the most grission? Take your time with this one.
Beer is good! And stuff!
It has to be Joe Blanton
because he’s fat, and is with the Phillies, which we all know lead the world in grission.
hammer hands would fit right in to this defense
there’s a lot of fish on this list. what, the pirates don’t have any pieces?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 29, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
They traded everybody that costs anything.
The only guys they have that are due a decent raise would be Dukes and Capps, and I think both of them are pretty sure things to be back.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 29, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i would be physically sick if uggla became a Met
his defense is atrocious, i dont care if he hits 30 hrs… you dont need that from the 2b position.
by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
LF is exactly where the Mets should move Uggla
MIers typically take the move to the OF very well. It’s the corner IFers that usually don’t move to the OF well. Here’s the thing… the Mets have a desperate need for a power bat and they may wind up losing out on Holliday and Bay even if they go all in on both. We already know that Uggla will be available, he has 30 HR power and had a pretty dramatic improvement in his K and BB rates this season. We also know he’s a terrible 2Bman, so move him to LF… much different story than the Murphy experiment. This is the outside the box thinking that Omar needs to do. Not saying I’m expecting it however…
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Oct 7, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Moreover
there is no current long term financial commitment to Uggla. If the Mets don’t get aggressive on Uggla, another team will certainly swoop him up and don’t be surprised at all if they move him to a corner OF.
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Oct 7, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Luke Scott
could be interesting. Maybe he’d be one of those American league guys that played in even better in the National League. Hit 25 hrs in 433 abs this year. He also hit lefties even better than righties with a .539 slg. pct. off lefties in 112 abs. He’s be better than Francoeur, put it that way…
i like the idea of raiding the marlins lineup
good ideas, although I’m a little nervous about Wang. Hopefully this season was just a fluke.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 28, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
atkins
i’d take atkins, hes due to bounce back bigtime after that .241 BABIP. but hermida is just one of those guys that everyone loves his tools yet hes not that good, like an alex rios. hes fast but doesn’t steal bases, great power stroke but doesn’t hit many hrs, he strikes out wayyy too much, doesn’t walk all that much and hes always nursing some sort of injury. no thanks.
by Rob Castellano on Sep 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
if you could have him for free, would you take him? I sure as hell would. Maybe more as a worst-case scenario or 4th outfielder type of guy but I’d sure as hell give him a look.
by METSMETSMETS on Sep 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd probably move him to first
but I’d take him
by METSMETSMETS on Sep 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
luke scott
hes one i’ve been keeping an eye on for a while. problem is that from what i’ve heard hes a statue in the outfield and over 3/4 of his games this year came at DH.
oops
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you're not seriously considering
Mark Teahen on the Mets….
I think he was just pointing out my spelling error
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 1, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Mets should go after Atkins
His year this year should be thrown away.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 2, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
Atkins hasn't been good since 2007
no thanks
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Depends
on what he costs.
The more young talent the merrier.
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 2, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He's 30
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Yeah
I didn’t look it up and when I thought about it I was like “….is he young?”
I just think that if you have a chance to get a guy like Atkins at almost no price you take advantage of it. It’s not really a priority but if there’s extra payroll after our needs are met….
He put up respectable numbers
With the exception of this season. He is a cheap alternative.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 3, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's that much better than Murphy to be honest
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Atkins is a proven hitter
Murphy is just garbage. He should be working at a gas station in Wyoming.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 3, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2009/6/5/900324/yankee-fans-i-need-your-approval-i
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 3, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't you write this?
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2009/6/5/900324/yankee-fans-i-need-your-approval-i
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 3, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And you think London Fletcher is the only under rated Linebacker in Football
Just because Joe Buck and Troy Aikman said so. Lmao!
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 4, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Um, yeah, that's exactly what I said.
Like I said (and you ignored), I’ve always thought that, and you stubbornly ignored this even after I agreed with your completely irrelevant point that there are many other underrated linebackers.
Literally, my quote was “Very underrated”. And you followed that up with, “You only say that because Joe and Troy said it during the telecast!”, and that I was somehow disrespecting every other linebacker by saying Fletcher was unrecognized. Seriously, dude, calm yourself. And when someone makes a point against you, you have to concede it. It’s called being a respectable adult.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Murphy did better than Atkins this year
and Atkins did slightly better than Murph has last year
I would like Atkins but to say he’s “proven” and that Murph is “garbage” is bull.
Actually, Murphy was statistically more productive in his short stint last year than Atkins was last year.
Man, that surprises the hell out of me. Atkins hasn’t really been good for years. But, he was league average in 07 and is only three years removed from posting a 5.9 WAR, MVP calibur season in 06 at age 26. The position player Ollie?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Well I meant that Atkins' 2008 was slightly better than Murph's 2009
but yeah, what you said is pretty surprising.
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 3, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Murphy is a joke
And if he is a starter for this team at any of the 8 offensive positions, the Mets will lose again.
Atkins had a couple of nice seasons in the past, and is still relativley young. He would be a cheap alternative, which is something I am sure the Coupon’s like.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 4, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
uh, Atkins is 30.
Considering he doesn’t play a position we need, is only a small upgrade at most from Murphy, and could potentially cost at least $8 mil (his salary from this past year was $7.5 mil), I’ll pass. I agree, Murphy shouldn’t start…but neither should Atkins.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
If he's non-tendered
I don’t think the Mets are required to pick up that hefty tag, are they?
If they are I want no part of him.
Correct
although the fact that he can play third will probably increase his value on the market, as 3rd base is much tougher to fill.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 4, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess
but I still don’t think he’ll make anywhere close to $7 million.
Oh Gosh, He's 30!!!!!!!!!
His career is over. Time to retire.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 4, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
no you're right, hes not done
but the point is that you said he was young and you were clearly wrong…adding to the heaping load of evidence that you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2009/6/5/900324/yankee-fans-i-need-your-approval-i
by Rob Castellano on Oct 4, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what I am talking about
Unlike most of the Mets fans, including yourself. Everyone thought..Oh Pelfrey, Maine, what a great rotation. And with the Mets going with that loser Murphy, I knew the Mets would have a rough go of it. Did I think they would lose 90+ games? No, However, I did not think they would make the playoffs.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 4, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said we had a great rotation?
Santana is great, Pelfrey is solid, Maine is injury prone, Ollie sucks and Livan is fat, I don’t think anyone would ahve disputed that back in April.
I guess if only we had Jermaine Dye we would have won 137 games this year.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I proposed the Dye deal back when the Mets were actually in the race
Before Beltran went down, the Mets were still in a race. Yet chose to sit on their hands.And look what happened.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 5, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no causality.
Dye wouldn’t have helped us very much this season. We’re better off with the prospects we would have had to give up.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 5, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Or any year for that matter
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
YEAH
if the Mets had Dye, they wouldn’t have started their most efficient player: Angel Pagan!
Yay for benching our best player for an aging, stale piece of crap!
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 5, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh Please with this Angel Pagan crap
Dye could have been attained for crap A prospects. CWS were looking to move him and dump his salary.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 5, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Dye still sucks
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Even if that were true,
we still did the right thing not going after him. Pagan’s far younger and immensely superior defensively, which is a huge factor in Citi Field.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 5, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
I’ll cut the Pagan crap.
So I’ll ask you in numbers terms
Would you rather have a -0.2 WAR player on your team or 2.3? .344 wOBA or .358? -18.6 UZR or 2.0 UZR?
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 6, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and
a half a season of Dye is over 5 times more costly than a full season of Pagan.
In no way shape or form would Dye be an improvement over Pagan.
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 6, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I could care less what it would cost the Mets finacially
They generate plenty of revenue.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 6, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
But wouldn't you rather get actually good players instead of bad ones with that excess money?
Jermaine Dye was -0.2 WAR this season. That’s terrible. Replacement level, even. Someone we could pick off waivers and pay minimum salary. We shouldn’t trade ANYONE for him, even if they are just so-so prospects.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Dye was having a very good season up until the later part of the season
So that WAR number is misleading. Dye would have been an upgrade over that idiot Murphy(Who was playing the OF when I proposed this deal) And would have shaken up the team. Instead they trade for Francouer when all was set and done. I like Francouer, and I feel that he has alot of upside. Nevertheless, the Mets sat on their hands when they should have made a deal to help themselves. Nick Johnson, Dye, Holliday, I didnt care who, I wanted someone to upgrade the teams credability and lineup.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 6, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hindsight is 20/20
so why not use it?
If Dye were doing THAT well, he might have cost more than grade A crap prospects. It turns out, he did shitty, and Pagan proved that he was worth more than Dye’s entire 2008 season in WAR (when Dye hit 34 HR and finished with a .376 wOBA) because Dye can’t move in the outfield.
Seriously, drop it. We finished 22 games under, and no one player, not even Albert can help a team up from that.
The White Sox wanted to move him because of his age
You understand that? A combination of age and money.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 8, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You should care what it costs.
The Mets’ money may not be yours, but it is a finite resource, and wasting money on Dye means there’s less to spend elsewhere.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 6, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ummm....Its the money they generate from the fans
They charge high prices, so therefore I shouldnt have to watch crap AA players like Murphy Tatis Evans etc.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 8, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be typical
of the Mets to spend good money on a player over 35 who isn’t a difference maker.
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Oct 8, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And all the Mets prospects are crap too
Im sick of hearing about these phenoms. There crap until proven otherwise. Dye is a proven hitter.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 9, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Every prospect is crap then
A Jermaine is proven to be sucky.
By your logic, the Kazmir/Zambrano trade at the time was good because Kazmir was crap and Zambrano had a year or two of adequacy.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
No, Kazmir was a #1 prospect
A cant miss. However, all these Majia, Holt, etc. Are just fixations to most of these Mets fans.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 10, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, despite the fact that prospect evaluators think Mejia has one of the highest ceilings in among prospects.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Yep, that Jayson Heyward must be crap too.
I mean, screw his amazing minor league statistics? Has he won a World Series? NO
=crap
seriously dude, that’s the fucking stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Uhhh, Jason Heyward is a cant miss #1 prospect
Just like Hanson of the Braves. ATL has the better farm system.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 10, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So were Homer Bailey, Delmon Young, Edwin Jackson, Jeremy Hermida, and Phil Hughes in the last 5 yeasr.
With the exception of this season from Jackson, they have a pretty disappointing track record for “can’t miss” guys. These “can’t miss” prospects still miss as often as not.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 10, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is half my point with Majia and Holt, etc.
Nevertheless, I think Heyward is the real deal.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 10, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Mejia.
M-E-J-I-A. It isn’t that hard to spell, and you’ll look a little bit less foolish.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 10, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll call him Fajita for all I care
Why don’t you upgrade your vocabulary. You’ll look a bit grown up.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 11, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Rascistly calling someone "fajita"
and then telling someone to grow up.
hm.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Do you expect more from a Yankee fan?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 11, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If you look at the root of the words, they are similar
But I wouldnt expect you to understant that. To complex for you.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 11, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a tough concept to understant.
I didn’t understant much that was taught in high school though. I’d guess most here have a hard time understanting.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 11, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Understanting
is hard
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Oh no a typo
Just your way of hiding your less than 1 IQ.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 11, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
When you're
bragging about your intellectual superiority, it’s best not to make stupid little mistakes like that. By the way, “intellectual” is referring to how smart someone is and “superiority” is being better than someone else, so together it means “being smarter than.” Just wanted to make sure you understood that as you force down your tenth fajita or whatever you were talking about Mexican food for.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
+1
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 11, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Enlighten us, o wise one.
Since you apparently are intimately familiar with Spanish etymology, what are the roots of ‘Mejia’ and ‘fajita’?
FYI, when calling someone else stupid, it’s probably best to not make two glaring grammatical errors in the process. Understant?
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 11, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
"too" complex.
And Fajita=/=Mejia. If you think they’re easily confused, you’re actually an idiot.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
so if it sounds spanish
its automatically something from Mariachi Loco?
red-state logic.
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 12, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter
how they generate the money. Whether it’s from ticket sales or dealing black tar heroin out of the Shake Shack, there’s only going to be so much that can be spent, so it’s paramount that it be spent wisely.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 9, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
AT LEAST JERMAINE DYE IS PROVEN CRAP
all those guys with “talent” and “athleticism” who are “improving.” Screw them. It’s not like all stars were once prospects anyway. It’s clear that all stars started out 35 year old, immobile men.
Also BobbyV that heroin comment deserves rec’ing
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 9, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Jermaine Dye is Proven to put up 75 Rbis, 20 HRs
And is a presence in the lineup.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 10, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
just like oliver perez, john maine, daniel murphy, nick evans, tatis, reed, redding, schnieder, santos, castillo, pagan, francouer, the whole bullpen
Im still probablly missing some people
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 10, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Angel Pagan was over 2 WAR this year.
Jermaine Dye was under that. Even with Dye’s vaunted “offense” that supposedly makes up for his piss poor defense, he had a .793 OPS. Yay…
And the whole point with about 5/6 of those guys are that they are as good as Dye or better, but also at a tiny fraction of the cost.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
.
Im still probablly missing some people
and a coherent point….
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 12, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
A proven RBI man...yay. We have one in Francoeur already.
And you do realize that the Cell was the best hitters park in baseball before your favorite team built their bandbox, don’t you?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 10, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The cell was a good hitting park, but Dye would his his fair share
He would provide and be protected in a Met lineup with Wright and Beltran.
The opposing team did a pretty good job at hitting them out.
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Oct 10, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And he'd have done a lousy job at catching them.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 10, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You Yankee fans know everything, don't you?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Oct 4, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Pelf would be at least decent.
Which, if you factor in his terrible defense and other bad luck, he has been. And I’ve been against Murph for LF for a while now. Like, I’d say a lot of people here were hoping we could get someone like Dunn during the offseason.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Pelfrey's a pretty damn good pitcher
Maine is hurt a lot.
Obviously no one expected any of this to go as bad as it did.
If Maine were healthy enough for 110 IP, Ollie didn’t have a total meltdown (even if his FIP was like 5.20) and the Mets defense wasn’t the worst in baseball (mostly because of the lack of Reyes and Beltran, and the fluky bad performance of Wright), the Mets would be a very good team.
So don’t act like your a swami. It’s easy to be right and say a team is going to lose, especially for the wrong reasons.
no need to act childish when you've been shown to be wrong.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
wow
your statistical precision is incredible
by Rob Castellano on Oct 4, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
by the way
murphy makes basically league minimum so it would be tough for atkins to be a cheap alternative.
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/9/28/1058746/offseason-non-tender-salary-dump#
by Rob Castellano on Oct 4, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I love that you just linked to the same article your commenting on.
I thought I was losing my mind for a second.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 4, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
That really did make me laugh
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 7, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions

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