According to Fangraphs' E-F (ERA minus FIP) stat, Pelfrey had the 4th unluckiest E-F in all of baseball. HIs ERA for the season stands at 5.08, while his FIP stands at 4.38. The disparity most likely is a result of Pelfrey's low LOB% (66.4%, which is second-lowest in MLB) and his elevated BABIP (.322).
For fun, check out Ricky Nolasco's E-F (1.77). He was by the far the most unlucky starting pitcher in baseball this year. Look for him and Josh Johnson to be a formidable 1-2 next year for the Marlins.
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I expect Livan
to have a big year next year based on this.
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by Kevin H on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well to be fair to fatty
he’s been league average in FIP
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by firejerrynow on Sep 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh!
We don’t need Omar reading this blog and deciding to give him a 3-year deal….
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by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 29, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if we pay him in sandwiches?
It might be cheaper.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 29, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There aren't enough sandwiches
in all of New York City. Dudes at Katz’s would have to be working 24 hours shifts to meet Livan’s needs.
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by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 29, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pelf still had a pretty poor year.
Yes he was unlucky with the defense behind him this year, but he still seems to struggle with the mental side of things (at least it seems that way from watching).
I like the FIP to ERA comp, from the defensive standpoint, but I also think the LOB% really isn’t bad luck and defense. To a degree a pitcher can “choke” and give up big hits with men on base causing that LOB% to be low. It just seems that this year Pelf has really struggled to maintain his focus with men on base.
I still think he can be a very solid Derek Lowe (but better) type of number 2 guy, and he still has some maturing to do.
by Balagast on Sep 29, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think part of it is
Bad defense would make it harder to get groundball outs and thus strand runners. It also extends the inning and is pretty mentally taxing when some catchable balls are going for hits.
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by Sam Page on Sep 29, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't deny that
I was just pointing out that its not like Pelf didn’t do anything to hurt his own cause this year and was simply a victim of bad luck.
I’d say there was a lot of bad luck there, but just trying to point out that its not the only contributor to these types of numbers.
by Balagast on Sep 29, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THT
Why you can’t subtract FIP from ERA
Though I’m still not sure what to use instead then.
by Michkin on Sep 29, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd like to hear fangraphs' take on that
what’s the value of the E-F stat if subtracting FIP from ERA gives us misleading data?
by englishgrey on Sep 29, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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