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Wright Lobby for Better Team (new name court. of firejerrynow)

No, this is not about Dub's magic helmet.  This is about Davy starting to get too nice for his own good.  It started with his backing down on a perfectly reasonable stance against Mike Francessa's vendetta, which was a transparent scheme to generate ratings based on sensationalism (and if it resulted in the Mets stupidly dumping Wright, all the better for Mike, who would then be able to trash the Mets for a decade--and who doubtless would be leading the chorus ridiculing the Mets for making the move for which he lobbied ferociously).

Star-divide

 

Here is what David Wright should be saying, and what he hopefully is intimating behind the scenes.

"Mr. Wilpon

To be frank, I am here to offer an ultimatum.  I am here demanding that you adjust the dimensions of Citi Field and restructure the management of this team.  This is not simple selfishness on my part.  I do not claim to be entitled to play in a ballpark tailor-made for me.  However, after what I have done for the Mets--which amounts to playing a key role in raising them from their traditional positions as the perennial bottom-feeders of the league--I have earned the right to play in a ballpark that is not for all practical purposes designed to stunt my value and productivity.  It is not me being selfish, but you who are being unbelievably callous in devastating your premiere player for the sake of pursuing a fetish of a scrappy team built on pitching and "speed".  It is not only callous, but absurdly stupid, since speed is a highly fetishistic baseball fixation held by those who hang on to bogus fantasies of "baseball the way it was meant to be played and used to be played", and since we are weak on pitching outside of Santana, who is in his decline phase regardless.

Furthermore, I also have the right, not as a superstar, but as a player, to play under an organization that at least gives me a fighting chance at a championship, not one that will almost certainly doom me to the fate of the great player who never won, and who will unjustly gain the reputation as a compiler who just didn't have what it takes to win, a reputation that will be propagated by a mentally deficient New York baseball media.

For this reason, I demand that you restructure this organization, starting from the top and replace Minaya and Manuel with managers who know what they are doing.  To be frank Mr. Wilpon, neither of these people is remotely suited to run a baseball team in their respective capacities.  They are each laughing stocks of the league and as soon as Ed Wade is inevitably fired, will take their place as amongst the three worst people at their respective jobs.  Manuel is currently the worst manager in baseball.  Only Dusty and Ozzie come close, and Dusty has the edge in that he does not bizarrely and arbitrarily humiliate his players.

As for the ultimatum, I will simply demand a trade unless you accede to the aforementioned conditions.

If you want to ask who am I to make such an ultimatum, I will respond in two ways.  I am the man who played the largest role in making the New York Mets relevant again.  I along with my good friend and colleague Jose Reyes, gave the Mets hope again.  And furthermore, Reyes, Beltran and Santana are with me 100% and will also demand to be traded unless these conditions are met.  This will be no skin off my back.  I along with the rest of the premiere players of the Mets have been subject to grotesque calumnies from all corners in New York, amidst the unfathomably stupid allegation that the Mets' failures lay at the feet of their best players, including one who OPSed a like a billion in September of 2007.  Do you think I would have the slightest qualm about going to a team where I am appreciated rather than slandered, whose management is competent rather than futile, and whose ownership cares about winning rather than pyramid chasing? 

And also, in light of the fact that Minaya has not been able to build a long-term contender despite inheriting two of the best players in baseball in the prime of their careers, are you willing to go all in on Minaya being able to build one from scratch after those players have decided that they have finally had enough?  You must know that you run the risk of returning to perennial mediocrity. How would that fare for your pocketbook?  (I have your attention now don't I?)  How much fun would it be to root for the LA Dodgers when the team you happen to own is making a fraction of its earning potential or perhaps losing money?  There's a bad economy out there Wilpon, and I don't think even Bloomberg would risk the backlash of giving you another billion dollar gift in these times.

So what will it be?  This must be tough on that ego of yours (especially yours Fred, we know how proud you are of getting daddy's money).  But it's your ego or your wallet.  Ball's in your court.  How long can you keep them in the air?"

And by the way, Jack D. Ripper is behind me 100% as well, and he would have no problem switching allegiances to the teams that get Wright, Reyes and Beltran.  He's done it before.  He's not exactly the most stable guy either, so I woudn't be quick to piss him off much more.

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Absolutely.

How can they POSSIBLY not alter the left field wall dimensions? Are they OUT OF THEIR MINDS!?!?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 3, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Right field mostly

But truly, do you really think that Wright shouldn’t be pissed off that the Wilpons built the worst possible ballpark for him? Do you really think it’s not a huge slap in the face and act of gross ingratitude to their best player?

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 3, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

I’m actually thinking that the old sarcasm detector might have been on overdrive there.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 3, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was actually being serious.

David Wright, our marquee player, the face of the franchise, is literally in one of the worst stadiums in the majors for a right handed pull line drive home run hitter to play.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 3, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the thing

It’s not like they have to tailor the ballpark to his swing – just don’t go in the opposite direction and build one that suppresses his strengths. If you want to build around pitching and defense, instead of having the ballpark do the work for you, how about going out and getting good pitchers and defenders.

by Mount17 on Sep 3, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

It’s a scenario I’ve imagined numerous times – Wright/Beltran/Reyes storming the front office, frustrated with the poor supporting cast around them. Great read.

by James Kannengieser on Sep 3, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

That would truly be historic.

by TheBigStapler on Sep 3, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great stuff.

If I were Wright, there’d be a lot more swearing in this. It may finally take our core players getting pissed off enough to do something like this for real change to happen.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 3, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Speed, defense, and pitching
“We’re going to try to build a team with speed and defense and pitching,” Manuel said. “I think that fits that style.”

Where do they expect to find this speed, defense, and pitching? There’s not a lot of it on the roster, and not much of it in the minor leagues either.

.

by acerimusdux on Sep 3, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw that quote and thought the same thing.

if everyone is healthy we have one above average defender in Carlos Beltran. Average defenders at SS and 3B.

Everywhere else the defenders are below average at their positions or simply can’t hit well enough to justify their positions.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Sep 7, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pagan is at least average in the corners, if that means anything.

And take this for what it’s worth, but Omir is one of the better defensive catchers in the league. It’s too bad he’s terrible.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 7, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Wright and Reyes both qualify as better than avg.

And Fangraphs seems to like Murphy at 1B. He’s no Snow or Mex, but he can hold his own defensively.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 7, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really really really, want this to happen

maybe then Wilpon will finally get it through his head that he’s setting himself up for a huge drop in profits

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 3, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

It won't though

Reyes would not be able to participate in a mutiny in good conscience, because Minaya is, by all accounts, the single person most responsible for Reyes getting a shot in the bigs (other than Reyes himself).

The rest of them could, though Beltran and Santana would take enormous heat for turning on the guy who got them a fortune. That leaves Wright, who is totally unconnected to the Omar Regime, and if he does that sort of thing by himself, it would be kind of prickish.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 4, 2009 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone would begrudge Santana for

taking a stand against Omar. Beltran, probably, since the press thinks he can do no right. But there’s nothing wrong with taking a stand against the incompetent management that surrounded you and your fellow superstars with absolute crap, even if said management did give you a huge payday.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 4, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wright lobby for better team

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 5, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Ha! +1

Never gets old.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 5, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm changing the title in your honor

I was so stupid not to think of that

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 5, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

why thank you

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 5, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok i feel stupid

because I dont get it lol

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holla

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 6, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately

part of what makes Wright so awesome is that he’ll never do this. He’ll go out there every day, be one of the best players in baseball every day, and yet kill his chances of being a hall of famer every day all b/c he’s a good guy who just wants to play baseball and is getting to do it for the team he rooted for as a kid. He’s like a battered wife – he’ll stick by this god forsaken franchise no matter how hard they fuck him over.

by cjmulrain on Sep 9, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

His image people are to be congratulated

I seriously doubt that he is quite as much the golden boy as seems apparent at first glance.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 9, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don't think Wright's a good guy who just wants to play baseball?

I’m not saying he’s a golden boy or the Messiah (aka Derek Jeter), but I’ve never seen or heard anything from Wright that suggests anything other than loyalty to the Mets and a desire to “let his play do the talking,” so to speak. If you wanna be extremely cynical and give all that credit to his PR people, go ahead, I’ll choose to have a little faith in the best position player this franchise has ever developed until he does something which proves me wrong.

by cjmulrain on Sep 9, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on

All I’ve heard is that he’s a good guy who was, for a time, put under the bad influence of Paul LoDuca. (Heard it firsthand btw.)There’s a difference between a good guy and a guy who would waive an extra 3 million dollars to play for his childhood team, regardless of how they treat him. Quite frankly, he would be a chump to put up with the incompetent management, media assholes and insipid fanbase in this market when he could go somewhere else where he’d be appreciated and given a chance to win with competent ownership.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 10, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Sci-Fi piece.

Wright would never ask for a trade. He would wait for this contract to expire and then sign elsewhere. I could see (and I actually expect him to) Reyes testing free agency after 2011. The only one I could see demanding a trade is Johan. He has that type of fire in him. The others not so much.

by fxcarden on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Blah

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 9, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can just see Wright joining Mattingly

As best New York players not to win a title with these assclowns running the show.
By the way does anyone know when Wilpon will be having the salute to the 1988 Dodgers night?

Jerry and Omar assclowns for life

by Ghost of seven in a row on Sep 10, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Wright>Mattingly

already, unless he plays like this season for the rest of his career.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 10, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wright vs. Mattingly

Both came up as 21 year olds, though Mattingly only played 7 games. Through age 26 season:

Mattingly: 713 GP, .331/.376/.543, .919 OPS, 150 HR, 25.02 PA/HR
Wright: 826 GP, .310/.391/.521, .912 OPS, 137 HR, 25.91 PA/HR

Wright played more games, but that’s almost entirely a product of starting younger and becoming a regular right away – Mattingly didn’t start missing significant time due to injury till 1990, when he was 29. Mattingly’s power fell off a cliff as a 27 year old, though: after 4 straight seasons with a SLG over .537, he dropped to .462, then up a tick to .477, then hurt his back and put up back-to-back seasons in the mid .300’s before settling in as a ~.415 SLG player.

Wright walks more than Mattingly ever did, so even if his power outage is permanent like Mattingly’s was, he’ll be a more valuable player, but he won’t be an elite player. I never even considered Mattingly as a comp for Wright, but it scarily fits.

by cjmulrain on Sep 10, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

the 150 and 137 are their OPS+, not their HR’s. Mattingly had 123 HR’s and Wright has 138

by cjmulrain on Sep 10, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wright's career WAR through 2008: 24.8

Mattingly’s career WAR (14 seasons): 39.8
They’re not even really comprable.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 10, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's disingenuos

Wright’s WAR through his first 5 full seasons is 24.8. Mattingly’s was 25.7. So far, according to Fangraphs, Wright has been worth 3.5 wins this season. In his 6th season, Mattingly was worth 3.9. Mattingly was then a 3.6 WAR player in his 7th year, and then basically became a ~1 WAR/year player over his last 6 seasons (6.7 total), which is why his career WAR isn’t good.

by cjmulrain on Sep 10, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. Take it for what it's worth, though.

I would bet against Wright being worth around 1 WAR from 2011 on, however. So I’ll retract the “not comprable” statement for now, but I’d be shocked if Wright doesn’t eclipse Mattingly’s production.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 10, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

I mean, I’m pretty sure that the only reason Mattingly didn’t have a Hall of Fame career is b/c of his back, and hopefully Wright won’t have those kinds of problems. But it is interesting how similar Wright’s career has been to Mattingly’s up to this point, especially the bizarre power dropoff. My hope is that this year is just a fluke and Wright will be back to 25-30 homers a year again next year.

And in the interest of full disclosure, I have always really liked Don Mattingly. When I was a kid, before I became a Mets fan and started hating the Yankees, my uncle (die-hard Yankees fan) gave me an autographed Mattingly picture, so even when I learned that the Yankees were evil I still liked Donny Baseball. And it’s funny, I think he’s the only player in the history of Major League Baseball who is actually underrated because he played for the Yankees, solely b/c he had the unfortunate timing of just missing World Championships on both ends of his career.

by cjmulrain on Sep 10, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The words "Mattingly" and "Hall of Fame" set off my bullshit alarm

In 2008 Mattingly had 86 Hall of Fame votes (15.8%) Had 96 votes (20.3%) in 2002 and 145 (28.2%) in 2001
Keith never had more than 52 votes (10.4%) and Keith>>>>>Mattingly

Keith- 61 career WAR (113 TotalZone)
Mattingly- 39.8 career WAR (15 TotalZone)

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 10, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

word

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 10, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa whoa whoa

I didn’t say he should be in the HOF. I said the only reason he didn’t have a career worthy of the HOF is b/c of his back. There’s no way a guy with a 6 year peak and nothing else should get in, unless that 6 year peak was Koufax-esque

by cjmulrain on Sep 10, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn;t talking about you

Just sayin, that’s what I think of what Mattingly and the Hall of Fame come up.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 10, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just gonna re-write that

I wasn’t talking about you. Just saying, that is what comes to mind when the topic of Mattingly and the words Hall of Fame come up at the same time.

And on another note, is anyone having a problem where the space in the reply box gets cut off on the side, like i can’t see some of what I type when it gets to far to the right.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 10, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, ok

just wanted to clarify my stance haha. I need some credibility for when hall of fame discussions really do come up.

by cjmulrain on Sep 10, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes

I know it doesn’t really mean much but this Mattingly/Wright comparison is just a tad bit scary.

by James Kannengieser on Sep 10, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about their value in the field?

Wright plays a tougher position, but Mattingly played 1st better than Wright plays third, so I’d be willing to bet that’s probably about a wash

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Sep 10, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wright has been crap at third this year

That can’t be explained by Citi. It’s evidence that he is either dealing with something we don’t know about, or is starting an early decline, and that this isn’t a fluke.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Sep 10, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

One year of offensive data is equal to three years of defensive data

So it very well can be a fluke. Players go in hitting slumps so is it unreasonable to think they can slump in the field as well?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 10, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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