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Open Thread: Mets vs Nationals

New York Mets at Washington Nationals, Sep 30, 2009 4:35 PM EDT





Tim Redding

#44 / Pitcher / New York Mets

5-11

225

R

R

Feb 12, 1978



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Tim Redding 3-6 29 16 0 0 0 0 114.0 118 71 67 18 49 74 5.29 1.46


John Lannan

#31 / Pitcher / Washington Nationals

6-4

225

L

L

Sep 27, 1984



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - John Lannan 9-13 32 32 2 1 0 0 199.1 206 97 87 22 66 85 3.93 1.36

Who plays at 4:35, honestly?

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What's the record for least posts in a game thread?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Sep 30, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what I said when I saw the starting time.

Just know, if there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Sep 30, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

So how messed up is red flowers as a boundary line for a home run?

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Sep 30, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

How did we score those 2 runs?

by TheBigStapler on Sep 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

of course fate. The two guys that shouldn’t be playing today, Tatis and Santos, drive them in.

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Sep 30, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

the mets will win the one time cleveland manages to win. im still holding out hope for that fifth draft pick.

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 30, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Also:

these are the things that cause an organization to examine itself top to bottom….

of course, with the Mets it will be something like this:

Jeff to Omar : you good ?
Omar to Jeff : I’m good.
Jeff to Omar : ok let’s play golf.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I just read that Sabean could be hired if Minaya goes

and part of me just died

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 30, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh quick, someone text an answer to the poll.

if my phone wasn’t dead it would be a big fat NO

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Tried to watch

Gary, Keith and Ron just started talking about how winning teams do all the little things right (after Jerry spouted off a bunch of baseball platitudes during an in-game interview) and I turned it off. If they think that’s the team’s problem, I’m not even gonna bother watching the rest of the way.

by gogomets on Sep 30, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

well, winning teams also do the big things right

like sign the right players.

us ?

nah, we’re good…..Ollie has upside.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

well the giants keep me occupied on sundays

aside from that,, mostly lots of movies, work (if only this had an offseason too), homebrewing beer, playing bass, i dunno, its really basically like in season except with 3 extra hours i can use to do whatever i want each day really.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha

same here except for the beer brewing.

play guitar, watch WS, watch football.

I do have a vacation coming up in November. More like a mental rehab.

I may go to ST next year. Just to smack Jerry.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manuel better not be there…
I have his autograph on a ball from last year though.

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Sep 30, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What type?

I’m devising a recipe for an Octoberfest right now. I know it’s not technically the season to brew it, but whatever.

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Sep 30, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the kind you have to have

if you dont have it, thats why you need it

(sorry, it was too easy)

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it gives you alcohol, which is just as good as booze.

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Sep 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ive got 3 made and one in progress

a chocolate bock, a wheat beer flavored with skittles (Called skittlebrau), a maple porter, and a mint IPA in progress

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skilttlebrau! haha, that sounds cool.

Not sure about the mint IPA..hmm.

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Sep 30, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah its a gamble

im a mad scientist when it comes to inventing flavors. The skittlebrau is a tribute to the simpsons

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That anti smoking commercial....

the one where the guy is waiting for the doctor to come in the room, and then he comes in 100 times saying “you have this, you have that”, etc.

I keep waiting for the doctor to say “you’re a Mets fan”

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

haha that would be awesome

that video needs to be made, sadly im not good at video editing.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh kieth

mentioning Weapons and Warriors last night was freaking AWESOME! that game took me hours to set up but it was so worth it

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Sep 30, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup i loved that game

i should get my copy back from my parents place, totally worth the ridiculous setup time

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

How could we even think

of hiring Sabean? Please give DePodesta a 2nd chance or go after David Forst or one of Freidmans assistants. Shit id give Acta the damn GMs job

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Sep 30, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Read some of his interviews

he sounds like hed have emphasis in the right places. If omar would take a scouting job I wouldnt mind having that tandem.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Sep 30, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

time for a 90 degree turn for the SS Mets.

I’ve had it with this bunch of inbreeds. All they do is hire each other or hire each other’s kids as favors back and forth.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice work carlos

pagan is easily confused by shiny things isnt he

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow a day game?

I had no idea. Isn’t tomorrow an off day, what’s the point of this? I see I have not missed much, huh?

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

nope nothing exciting

the day game is weird, took us all by surprise

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with what you said earlier

they are wisely trying to hide this game from all eyes. Should I even bother to ask why no Evans? At this point, it’s just Jerry showing spite. He has to have heard that people think it makes no sense, and he’s saying a big “eff you” to y’all for even asking that question. Gangsta.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

They made a movie about him called

“The Kid Gets in the Game”. His dad, Robert Evans, directed it.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he's afraid if evans does fail we'll be disappointed

and he doesnt want that, so he’s keeping evans out so he can’t mess up and lower our hope for him in the future. If he never plays, he always has the POTENTIAL for awesomeness. its like when you drive a car off the lot, once you do its value immendiately drops.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice bunt by dukes

he’s having fun with this series against the mets i guess.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

On the reverse standings...

we are neck and neck with those Dbacks, 1 game ahead/behind. This win would hurt. Looks like there’s no catching KC and Cleveland, 3 games back of each. And Baltimore has really gone into an NBA-like tank mode with 12 losses in a row. You have to respect that kind of commitment to failure. Where is our commitment???

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

we even suck at sucking

at least we’re consistently bad at everything

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re intentionally walking Gary Sheffield? really?

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Sep 30, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Sheff?

Is he still on the roster?

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 30, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess he ws in the doghouse?

please tell me his contract is up at the end of the year so i never have to see him in a mets uniform again.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rewatching last night's 8th inning

and as bad as Hernandez’ toss was, Castillo took about a fortnight to reach 2nd base. He appeared to move in slow-mo Matrix style motion. And he didn’t exactly take a direct route. I think he went around the Cape of Good Hope.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Parnell is looking good lately

time to make him a starter again, lol. Let’s have him start on Sunday.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I want Tatis to pitch on Sunday

and Jerry should let Beltran and Wright manage the team that day, also.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go volleyball style and just rotate after every out

switching the catching gear on and off would be a problem….but that’s easily solved: everyone where catching gear, even the pitcher.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

the survey was do you think the mets will bounce back next year

i think it unlikely unless there are major changes in the offseason, 60% think itll be rainbows and sunshine

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, I forgot about the survey

I even up above I would vote no, so I guess I am with the 40% who are realistic.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zimmerman for Wright

the question is, which team would not do this trade? I think both teams would laugh at the other.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

who said that ?

makes no sense to me.

I mean, what would the carpenter’s union do ?. they would have to re-tape all those commercials.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

im not sure if im happy or disappointed we got that out

technically losing is better for us, but getting swept by the nationals is an unpleasant thought

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang...

missed most of the game b/c of work. Came in at the 8th.

Barely hanging on, huh?
And Redding looked good for 6.

Why – ever – bring Green in with a one run lead?

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 30, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Why – ever – bring Green in with a one run lead?

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

one good thing about today's game

I won’t have to see the capitol shot again for a while.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

This guy Morse

Looks good. Of course, it’s probably just us making him look good, but he’s a big dude.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

On the bright side

I’m going to see Pearl Jam live tonight. Screw this team and game!

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

nice, enjoy the show

never seen them live, theyre on my list of bands i have to see still

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gibson Amphitheatre in L.A.

I’ve seen them 3 times live, all amazing shows. They are up there with Bruce in terms of live performances I think.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are actually playing in L.A. tonight too

at a smaller club. It’s too bad they aren’t opening for Pearl Jam.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And playing down in Orange County

Creed – the worst band ever, you’d have to pay me a lot of money to see them. Okay, back to baseball. Isn’t it over?

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunn still has

2 homers to go to get his standard 40….yikes, dangerous spot.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

With the way he falls off the mound

it’s amazing he doesn’t walk even more.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

remember when luis hernandez did this

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 30, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Comedy is

repetition + timing… and this team’s got it in spades.

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sending the Mets a bill

for my wasted time.

I figured I wasted 500 hours of my life watching this shit.

As an IT consultant, I usually get about 65 an hour, so, they owe me 32 grand.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

This does keep us alive

if either Cleveland or KC sweeps this weekend we are in the hunt for a top 5 pick

by David G on Sep 30, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha !

We need to sweep the Astros to make it to 70 wins.

Ain’t happening. They managed to beat even my pessimistic prediction from back in late July which had us at 73 wins.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The Wilpons really get what they deserve.

They build a shrine to another team, they turn control of the team over to a complete idiot. I mean….fuck.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

What do you guys think goes thru the mind of a classy player like Beltran

when shit like this happens……

I should have gone to the Bronx ?.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Rotoworld writes about Frankie

“Just a complete waste of money. Even though his average against has stuck right around the Mendoza Line, K-Rod has given up 34 runs in 67 2/3 innings this season, making him a thoroughly mediocre pitcher. Not that it’d be the difference in their playoff chances, but the Mets would have saved $8 million this season and probably won another three or four games had they forgotten K-Rod and just kept Darren O’Day.”

His ERA is now 3.72, which is awful for a $12 million closer.

by Syler on Sep 30, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Would this count as a game finished?

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I can say is...

thank the gods we are still not in this race, actually needing to win these games.

After the last two seasons, well..that would finish me off…….

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 30, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

true

i guess its a little less awful. but still swept by washington…

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least this season we can laugh these off.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah...

can you imagine if we were tied with Phillies today, and this happened, and then Pedro pitched a gem ?.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing left to say by Jerry.

Now they’re interviewing KRod.

‘I gotta suck it up’. He admits to be embarrased and apologizing to all Met fans expecting him to get it done.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 30, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i give him credit

he doesnt make excuses for himself.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

he tore his hammy too?

what the hell is wrong with this guy…. are his muscles made of glass?

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think the issue here is Reyes

Why the hell were the Mets rushing him back to get a game or two out of him this season? Woul ANY other professional team in any other sprot have taken that ridiculous chance with a guy who’s value to the team is that high????

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well not to beat a dead horse, but...

how do you know the mets were rushing him, especially now.

would you rather have the tear happen now or happen in ST ?.

I really wouldn’t be surprise if someone finds some enzyme deficiency that affects muscle elasticity, or some weird gene/dna shit.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might have had a chance that he had healed enough to play now.

I think taking extra rest to ensure he had the time to heal before he started running would have been prudent with our position in the standings. 5 extra months could have done alot for ensuring he healed.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

FAIL

I turn off to watch Twins-Tigers.Thank God

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 30, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Carlin said 'new injury' suffered.

So he just tore the right hamstring with the latest running?

Good god – I don’t even know what to say.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 30, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah that means the injury he had before had healed enough

that he could put enough stress on the hamstring to tear it. If the torn ligament were an issue that would have likely failed first. That suggests an underlying problem aside from the poor injury management (which i’m not at all denying is part of the problem).

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

in other words.....glass ?.

gene therapy ?

dna splicing ?.

less gatorade, more beer ?.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

who knows

but i know more beer is my cure for this season.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 30, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Credit to Metsblog for this...

(at least that’s where I found it )

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

At least it was an early game

so I didn’t miss the ultimate fighter for this buzzkill.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 30, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

K-Rod is so much better than Wagner

Im so happy we spent 37 million on him.

Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Sep 30, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Later people

whoever is left, anyway.

3 more and we’re free.

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey BB Rod lobby for top 5 pick

seriously though, dump him and name any guy the closer, as long as you strike people out, get people out, don’t walk people and don’t give up the long ball. Billy Wags anyone?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 30, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I always said we should have kept him.

pretty much everyone here thought he wasn’t worth the money we owed him

by fxcarden on Sep 30, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like wags

i was sad to see him go, and i’ve always been low on bb-rod.

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 1, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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