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Open Thread: Mets vs Cubs

Chicago Cubs at New York Mets, Sep 5, 2009 1:10 PM EDT




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Nelson Figueroa

#27 / Pitcher / New York Mets

6-1

205

R

R

May 18, 1974



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Nelson Figueroa 2-3 10 4 0 0 0 0 32.0 43 17 16 4 10 27 4.50 1.66


Rich Harden

#40 / Pitcher / Chicago Cubs

6-1

195

L

R

Nov 30, 1981



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Rich Harden 8-8 24 23 0 0 0 0 129.0 108 66 60 22 58 152 4.19 1.29

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come on figgy

lets see you top 10 Ks… anyone else here, or am I talking to myself?

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

aloha

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm right here

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

oh good,

not that talking to myself would have stopped me, just would have been a bit less interesting dialogue

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

K

damn Kosuke swung out of his shoe at that one

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

huh? No Nick Evans

is he in Jerry’s doghouse?

by nelsonc on Sep 5, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i think they may have sat him because hes not good

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

only three players in our lineup are good

Evans has much more upside than Cory Sullivan and it’s a mortal sin that Sullivan is playing so much over him

by twon8 on Sep 5, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

What say you now ?

Sully HRs in consecutive games.

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

KK

nicely done

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't believe

what happened to the Cubs this year. It’s not like they’ve got a lot of injuries. Just many under performing. They were predicted to win the NL. Just goes to show you that you can’t play baseball on paper….

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

wouldnt mind

although id go for lackey first

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lackey is good

I just wish he was 3 years younger

by James Kannengieser on Sep 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but harden seems a bit more injury prone, neither one is a bad choice, but each comes with their risks

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran could be back as early as Tuesday?

Hope Sep goes well for him and puts all our minds at ease for next year….

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

me too

im very anxious to see how his knees handle citi field center

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

amen to that

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Maine is starting a game tonight

we might actually see him pitch this year

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

KKK

nasty curve there

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Thole's Fangraphs page lists him as "Joshua Thole"

which is obviously his real name, but still weird to read after seeing it written as Josh Thole all the time.

by James Kannengieser on Sep 5, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Sully is such a beast

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, way to go Sully!

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Tholeapalooza strikes again

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

The only positive thing about this season

is it gave all an opportunity to see what the peripheral players can really do for long stretches of time, not just a couple of days or a fill in for a 15 day DL stint for one of the regulars. Gives you a chance to REALLY see what they’ve got.

Like Figgy and Misch as a starter and Parnell as a starter and Sully, Reed, Cora, etc.

Very rarely do you see that on just one team for half the season…

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

very nice

hope he can keep it up, we could use a guy like that next year.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like him as a long man next year

Frankie, Parnell, Stokes, Green, Feliciano, Figgy and TBD (maybe another lefty) in the pen isn’t awful.

by James Kannengieser on Sep 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Especially since they had no one left when they released Livan.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

KKKK

keep it coming

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

second deck i think

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy for him

he seems like a good back up and a good team mate

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

he better not be on the team next year
id much rather have Evans

by RangersandMets on Sep 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evans

is not a natural OF though. Sully’s defense out there is far better than Evans.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

im not going to beat a dead horse

i think ive conveyed my opinion on evans enough now lol

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

His defense

is better than most. I think he should be on this team next year.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd definitly like to see him off the bench

what Jeremy Reed was supposed to do this year, except without all the fail

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tennis and football talk by GKR all within a couple of minutes

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

actually just GR today I think

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright Thole

first major league throw out

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Said last night...

for all the hype, Thole’s ML debut is far and away better than FMart’s was….

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

thole isn't injury prone

hopefully

knocks on wood

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

good mechanics

if you aren’t going to have a strong arm, you can make up for it with good mechanics and getting it there straight.

aka, the anti-paul loduca

by firejerrymanuel on Sep 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

"rollicking strikeout start" for Harden

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

another gem from GR

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's been a pleasant surprise this season

for the most part anywhere

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't looked at any stats

But he’s gotta be up there with the most infield hits.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKK

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

1 for 1 and he threw out a guy at second

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

make that 2 for 2

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet

I just saw that hit myself

by aparkermarshall on Sep 5, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Cammack

legend

http://www.ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0637

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, what a clusterfuck

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Pagan Fail

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKKKK

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKKKKK

damn

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Yah Harden out

lets beat up on their bullpen

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

word

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice slide Sully

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Sep 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

fail

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Jerry knows this game season is done

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Sep 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

great job nick

we need to see more of this guy

/sarcasm

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

it's the takahashi maru

credit to fxcarden for that one

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

was heilman booed?

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

hell yes he was

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd boo him

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Sep 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU HEILMAN

YOU FUCKING PIECE OF TRASH YOU

by Syler on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Tell us how you really feel.

Two hits, no outs. That’s the Heilman we all know and love – as long as he’s not on this team!

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they play entrance music for him wtf

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

alright, good start here

thanks Aaron, you owe us some. I hope you give it up here

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

nah with our luck

heilman will make an unassisted triple play

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU SLAPPY

gah

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

c'mon David, crush it

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck

Well we get 1 back

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 5, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

LOB

Lots of Boos

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

wrench fail

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

and murphy fails

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

goddamnit

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

dessens fail

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Elmer descends further and further each day

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

HR ball catcher ftw

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Just came back from Home Depot.

Jeez that inning sounded so promising in the car.

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Eddie Lora will be the PTBNL in the Wagner trade

Not even in their top 30 prospects

Way to go Coupons

by Syler on Sep 5, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

that's fucking terrible

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct

the yankees just delayed it because they’re douchelords

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

thou must not insult the empire

( I’m going to see the house that money built on Tuesday )

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i saw the old stadium

i have real pressing desire to see the new one. And i’m not insulting the empire, im simply stating the fact that they are, in fact, douchelords. Its science.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

thats the best we could do?

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could have eaten Wag's salary and got nothing

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Sep 5, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but really thats a totally useless throw-in

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 30 year old who's been in the minors for the Sox for 4 years, apparently.

Scouting Report: Dominican 1B with a great frame, has really filled out nicely for his age. High power potential with good present pop. Strikes out far too much. In 2008, Lora impressed all around in the DSL, but fell flat during a mid-season promotion to the GCL.

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

"with a great frame"

sounds like one of those cars you can buy on eBay

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

fire damage This car is HOT!!!

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like he was born in NY

Maybe that’s why they traded for him

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sentence kills me from Boston Herald

After being named the team’s Minor League Latin Player of the Year in 2008, he was promoted to the GCL, where he went 0 for 32.

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, thanks to MLB

For not letting me watch this game. So glad I spend a couple hundred bucks on Extra Innings package

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 5, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Pinch hitter for a pinch hitter

Gotta love the 40 man rosters

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Sep 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

or 27 man rosters in our case

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

jerry fail

marmol kills lefties way more than righties

by clip on Sep 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

A walk

Why do they tease me so much

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 5, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

alright Pagan, lets do this

redeem yourself for that awful play last night

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Once we knew the season was over,

I actually enjoyed watching the games again.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 5, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

really odd but true

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

once we can just laugh at it it got easier

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh bases loaded 2 outs you know what that means

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont get why teams dont just get 2 outs

then walk the bases loaded against the mets… its a surefire way to only have to earn 2 outs

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 5, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-2

Stop teasing me Mets

Gangsta

by Jadden Hopkins on Sep 5, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

fail

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Marmol is spanish for marble

meaningless fact, but a fact nonetheless

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

well of course after he flies out he is

that’s when we ignore his .300+ batting average

after he hits a home run hes the best player on the team

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

goddamnit Pagan you fail!!!

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Julio Franco has a baseball academy?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/09/mets-to-sign-japanese-teenager.html

The 17-yr old native of Osaka left Japan after high school in hopes of signing with a Major League franchise, and has been training at Julio Franco’s academy in Florida. Patrick says that Franco will reportedly travel to Japan in the middle of next month to officially announce the signing.

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

here comes the wrench

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

that was surprisingly bad from david

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Egh

Maybe we can get our first series win since July tomorrow

by Syler on Sep 5, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

sigh, o well

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 5, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, he looks good.

I hope they don’t do the usual stupid thing and rush him.

He could benefit from a full year of platooning with Short Swingz.

by fxcarden on Sep 5, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'm gonna be out tomorrow too

probably at a radio

There’s only been 3 games I completely missed this year.

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Sep 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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