Maine Applesauce - Maine returns to Mets, Matt Holliday is the answer, Cole Hamels' advertising

by Joe Budd on Sep 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT in Applesauce

Sorry again for the tardiness. Still trying to catch up with my life after a hectic weekend. Anyway, I asked the question in the comments yesterday, but would like more feedback. How much Applesauce would you like during the offseason?

Meet the Mets

Congratulations to Josh Thole for the first of what I hope is many more RBIs. During the game, the Mets tried a silent broadcast booth for an inning. I didn't see it, so any thoughts? Carlos Beltran nearly hit a grand slam.

Ted Berg weighs in on Jayson Stark's suggestions. I think it's fair to say that Berg wins. Speaking of ESPN, check out Peter Gammons' old mustache.

John Maine will make a start on Sunday night against Philadelphia.

Mets Merized says that we should stop caring what other teams think about the Mets' showboating.

There will be some version of Met playoff baseball this year. It just happens to be in Brooklyn.

Joe DeMayo suggests the free agent route with Matt Holliday.

Around the NL East

Charlie Manuel pulled Brad Lidge in the 9th and the Phillies hit five solo home runs to beat the Nationals.

Javier Vazquez was sharp as the Braves beat the Astros.

Cole Hamels needs a new agent.

Around MLB

Some new evidence about Shoeless Joe Jackson and Eight Men Out shows that all the players may have been innocent of the charges.

It's hard to be a rookie in this game.

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What other teams think of the Mets:

I’ve been saying for years that I don’t care what other teams think. If the team wins, it doesn’t really matter to me if Jose dances or Fartinez gives high-fives to everyone at CitiField or Frankie pumps his fist so hard after a save that he accidentally causes turbulence over the ballpark. I just don’t care.

On a somewhat related note, I got a kick out of the Prince Fielder bowlingball/earthquake celebration.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 9, 2009 12:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

From a strictly entertainment-oriented view

I think it’s in my best interests that the players don’t waste the awesome celebrations when the situation is not glorious. Otherwise the celebrations all seem ordinary as is the case with football. The Prince Fielder thing was awesome because it’s the only time it has ever happened and it was really absurd.

by TheBigStapler on Sep 9, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Right

they were celebrating a walk-off homer. I think that was a fun way and an appropriate time to do so.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Sep 9, 2009 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Strictly as a very bitter Mets fan,

I got annoyed at the Yankees’ celebration and the pie in the face after a walk off HR that would have gone out of 2 stadiums.

by Mount17 on Sep 9, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions

i still thought the celebration after the dropped castillo popup was a bit much

given that they really didn’t earn the win. Celebration fine, but they made it look like A-rod had hit a 600 ft blast or something.

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 9, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

reverse the situation

and we might have had a parade.

by gbaked on Sep 9, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

by fxcarden on Sep 9, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Having seen just that last night with the Swisher walk off, I thought it was OK.

by fxcarden on Sep 9, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Are we sure...

… that was a team celebration, and not just a normal physical reaction?

by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions

"How much Applesauce would you like during the offseason?"

I don’t remember, was there Applesauce last offseason?

by nelsonc on Sep 9, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions

I started it in the middle of Spring Training

And was pretty consistent every week day.

by Joe Budd on Sep 9, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions

im a big fan

as long as there is worthwhile material.

by gbaked on Sep 9, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I would love it

if there were applesauce every day in the offseason, perhaps shorter in length, and if days get skipped, nobody will be angry.

by TheBigStapler on Sep 9, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Twice a week should do.

With extra helpings around certain events, e.g., winter meetings, start of FA signing period.

by madisonmetsfan on Sep 9, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions

That works for me

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 9, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Showboating

I don’t think the Mets celebrate any more or less than any other team. It’s just a tired stereotype at this point, and I think other teams like to use it as cheap bulletin board fodder.

A Pirate player could run around the bases backwards while flapping his arms after hitting a HR and no one would care, but if Reyes claps his hands after a triple, that’s some sort of crime against humanity.

I agree with F what other teams think, they always have a chip on their shoulder about all things New York anyway.

by Mex_17 on Sep 9, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions

i think if you look back

at the most successfull met teams, the ones that played with a f-you attitude have done the best.

Like it or not, there is extra pressure playing for the mets. With the insane amount of media, very knowledgeable fans, those damn yankees, etc…

The 86 mets were basically jerks. The 69 team had a major we dont care what you think attitude. Bobby V had the 2000 mets playing way above their level and they obviously did not care if they were written off as bad outfielders (stretching it a little)

The mets should celebrate. If the other team doesnt like it… celebrate more and right in their faces. I love it when shane victorino gets mad… Makes me laugh when midgets throw a temper tantrum.

by gbaked on Sep 9, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions

that article about jose dancing

was basically what I was trying to say the other day when I called the mets pussy’s. But just done more eloquently and much more better.

by gbaked on Sep 9, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions

OK I see

by James Kannengieser on Sep 9, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions

especially the point

about the cardinals singing jose jose jose in the locker room.

that still makes me mad thinking about it. I think if that happened in 86… backman and dykstra would have been waiting outside for the redbirds and started a brawl all by themselves.

by gbaked on Sep 9, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

And Peter Gammons as Dr. Johnny Fever

by Reg Dunlop on Sep 9, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions

Can't wait

to hear Steve Phillips’ take on the Mets on Sunday.

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 9, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions

Silent broadcast

is great, not as something you’d want all the time, but in a perfect world you’d have the option on your tv.

ever go to a ballgame all alone? it’s kind of like that. i.e. great.

by Pack Bringley on Sep 9, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions

also

would be even better for non-met games. put any old game on, open up a good book, pay some bills, clear out your head, look up when the cheering gets loud…

by Pack Bringley on Sep 9, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions

It's a great idea

They should try it here in DC. Like say every game, and for all nine innings.

by dcmetsfan on Sep 9, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Are you telling me you don't like Rob Dibble?

Why? Just because he’s a stupid jackass?

by dtro on Sep 9, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Dibble

Hey, Rob Dibble has a great baseball mind. He thought the Nats would win 90 games this year

by Bieser's Balk on Sep 9, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

also for every Fox game

by JoshNY on Sep 9, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea I liked it.

I think it works for one half inning a game.

I remember watching an Angels broadcast last year where hey did a silent inning and they used a camera situated in the stands behind the 3rd base dugout to simulate being a fan sitting at the game. I thought it was pretty cool.

by dtro on Sep 9, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

they used to show

the old 1960 program “Home Run Derby” on ESPN classic all the time. Seems like they don’t anymore. anyway it was the reverse situation: pleasant commentary and conversation, not a soul in the crowd or a peep from a loudspeaker. it was like therapy to me.

oh, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu7qsP4SW34

by Pack Bringley on Sep 9, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions