Make Eric Byrnes Angel Pagan's Backup
When the idea of adding Eric Byrnes as the Mets fourth outfielder first started floating around, I was understandably horrified. When the Diamondbacks cut Byrnes, effectively swallowing his $11 million salary, adding him suddenly became a great idea. Byrnes is a below-average hitter, but an excellent defensive outfielder (+11 UZR/150 in CF), and just 3 years removed from the 4-WAR season that earned him his eventually burdensome contract. Byrnes is often noted for his "all-out" style of play, which is a fancy of way of saying he's the grission king. He's a versatile player, who could replace the injury-prone Angel Pagan in the outfield, or the allergy-prone Kevin Burkhardt on the broadcasting team. Seriously, the Eric Byrnes show would likely be ten-times more entertaining than any of the current programming on SNY, including the Mets games:
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Apparently he has a clear preference to play for the Giants.
So, any other team would have to trade for him in one week. After that, if nobody trades for him, he’ll be released and he can choose where to play.
USS Mariner post
Fanpost at BtB
saw that BtB post
and had similar thoughts about bringing byrnes in on the cheap to backup pagan. my only problem w/ it is that it probably eliminates the need for endy which frankly is unacceptable.
by Rob Castellano on Jan 19, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Put me down as
I don’t care how good his D is, I don’t want that grissiony douche anywhere near the Mets,
For league minimum as a 5th outfielder
Sure, why not?
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
For me
he is very, very close to the line where his character (negative, IMO) outweighs his talent (which is average). Though this didn’t happen with Sheff so maybe I’m worrying for nothing.
ok sure
I would not have a problem with him backing up Pagan on the real cheap.
I feel he would be better off on the West Coast,but would like him on the Mets. He used to be one of my favorite players, so why not.
don't know what Sam is thinking in this case...
the Mets need Byrnes (another injury reclamation) like a hole in their heads. If there were no viable FAs available that would be another story, but there are still plenty of FA OF options to choose from that will not break the bank.
To me, Gabe Gross looks like the best option at this point… he’s a plus OFer and he won’t expect to play regularly but he’s definitely RF insurance and has also played some CF in the event Pagan goes down before Beltran comes back…
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 19, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions
You guys is crazy
For nothing, Byrnes would be a bargain, absolutely worth adding. Plus defense, some offensive upside. His component offensive numbers are fine, his BABIP is just scary low the last couple years. But that span is still under 500 PAs. No reason not to take a shot at Byrnes for league min, if he’d be willing to come to NY. No need to guarantee him PAs, it’d just force Pagan and Francoeur to earn their playing time.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jan 19, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions
Dude get your head out of those spreadsheets
and look at the fact that he is annoying as hell.
Seriously, though, would getting Byrnes for cheap as a 4th/5th OF be smart? Probably. But Jerry will just fall in love with his ridiculous dives and falling-down throws and play him too much.
That would be a legit concern
If he didn’t actually project roughly as well as Pagan or Francoeur to begin with. I mean, maybe you’re right, maybe he’d play awful and Pagan would be awesome but Jerry would love him cause he knows how to bunt or something, but I still think its worth a shot. The opposite is just as likely to happen. If Beltran were healthy it would probably be a luxury and fairly unnecessary, but when there’s a big gaping hole in the roster for at least a month, depth only helps.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jan 19, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
wow Sam Page
way to immediately steal my idea. http://www.amazinavenue.com/2010/1/15/1253824/eric-byrnes-dfad#29031450
you sir, Mr. Samuel Skirt Page, are the grisson grimace.
As for Byrnes, he can pretty much sign with whomever he wants and someone is going to take a chance on him as a starter despite his injuries. The west coast does make the most sense and I could see the Angels jettisoning Juan Rivera for a starter and snagging Brynes. While the Mets have shown interest in Byrnes in the past, the Mets only chance would be if the interest is mutual.
Byrnes might be willing to give up play time to get his show on SNY though. I’ll give him that.
I'll let it go
since James was so kind to post this picture.
huh?
going to get a chance as a starter?! is this 2006? the DBacks let him go b/c they felt he couldn’t get it done anymore… you don’t release players you owe $11M to if they have good baseball in them. Two bad wheels says he probably can’t run well anymore which makes him a part time player at best.
Will someone take a shot at him for the ML minimum to be a role player? sure. is he guaranteed to make a squad? not at all.
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 20, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Well Arizona also has a bunch of young outfielders and really no need for him
or his 11 million. I imagine there’s a few teams with of holes, other than us, who would give him a starting job for league minimum. or at least more than he’s likely to get here.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
he put up
plus defense on those bad wheels last year, Mr. wow your names way to long HowieRose.
name one team that is going to hand him a starting spot...
a ST invite for a bench role, perhaps…. an everyday gig? He’s got a lot to prove before someone is handing that to him.
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 20, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions
For $400,000
lets see… the Royals, the Giants, the Marlins, PIrates, Blue Jays, Orioles… they’ve all got spots and heck, Mets could hand him CF over Pagan… in theory, atleast.
he had 2 serious hamstring injuries last season. is turning 34 and
played a total of 136 games the past 2 seasons with an ops in the mid 600s…. do you really think any team is going to hand him an everyday job?! really. give that some time before you answer.
and btw, every team you mentioned with the possible exception of the Giants has their OF slots over-filled.
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 21, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions

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