Pineiro Applesauce - Joel signs with Anaheim, Mets interested in Japanese veteran, F-Mart impresses
by Joe Budd on Jan 21, 2010 10:30 AM EST
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Meet the Mets
Once again the Mets come up short in free agent bidding, but this time it's on players who are actually decent. Joel Pineiro chose the Angels and Doug Davis the Brewers.
Fonzie Forever is still happy about the Molina non-signing and lists off all the players we can have instead. Ted Berg writes that Francesa's idea of Chris Snyder isn't terrible.
The Mets continue to show interest in Japan League players, this time talking to ten-year veteran Hisanori Takahashi who insists that he can be a Major League starter.
Fire Jerry Manuel just demolishes Marty Noble.
Some good Fernando Martinez news. He is dominating in his nine playoff games so far. Toby Hyde points out that Martinez is a lot like Philadelphia top prospect Michael Taylor.
Mets Police posted some photos of what will soon be the Met Museum and the new orange staircases.
Patrick Flood breaks down some of Darryl Strawberry's greatest seasons.
Phillies Nation predicts the 2010 Met season based on last year's WAR numbers, while making some educated guesses because of the unbelievable number of injuries.
Around MLB
The Cayman Island earthquake didn't delay Jimmy Rollins' wedding for too long.
Some former Met news to pass along. Jay Payton joins Paul Lo Duca in Colorado. And Cory Sullivan is Houston-bound.
Murray Chass acts like an idiot.
Why is Johnny Damon still unemployed? The man stole two bases on one attempt. That is off the grission charts.
And, finally, Walkoff Walk presents some of Pete Rose's greatest commercials.
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Murray Chass is ridiculous.
I’m amazed he can even see what’s going on down here among the worthless, what with him being up so high above us.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 21, 2010 10:34 AM EST reply actions
I wasn't aware
that we weren’t allowed to make our own imaginary HoF ballots. I guess Murray says we can’t, so that’s it.
he's not even a horseshoe maker puzzled by the introduction of the automobile
he’s like one of those stone-wheel makers puzzled by a 747
What pisses me off the most about the Chass quote
What makes the writers such “experts” on the game? If they were such experts of players, shouldn’t they be working as scouts, managers, or GM’s? How many of the BBWAA members played the game at the major league level? How many managed?
They are all asshats and they know that technology is making them irrelevant. They are grasping at any straws they can trying to hold on to status.
by Reg Dunlop on Jan 21, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or, in erstwhile blogger Murray Chass' case:
he’s sitting at his computer typing “NEENER NEENER BOO BOO!”
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 21, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah it would make a whole lot more sense
if former gms, high level scouts/front office people got to vote, than writers.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I heard on the radio a couple of weeks ago
Buster Olney saying he didn’t think the writers should be voting on the Hall because it’s a conflict of interests. Writers should be reporting the news, not making it. I think he’s absolutely right.
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
Only the asshats are irrelevant
I love reading stuff by guys like Joe Posnanski. Sure I don’t pay for it, but I still enjoy reading it.
"Three home teams advance, and the fuckin' Jets" - Rex Ryan
Don't forget Adam Rubin, would be front office guy
"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore
The talks involving Snyder
will inevitably be linked to Castillo. Castillo will be making more than him the next two years so Im guessing a prospect or two have to go with him
Snyder: 10:$4.75M, 11:$5.75M
Castillo: 10:$6M, 11:$6M
That doesnt make sense for a salary dump from AZ’s perspective unless we throw in $$$ like 3m to give them extra flexibility above “evening it out”. Also can we tell if Snyder’s contract is insured? If its insured and he goes on the DL we’d get the cash back and be in no worse situation with Coste, Blanco and Omir all signed.
Applesauce
Well, it’s a good thing that we’re showing more and more interest in the Japanese market. I’m not really sure how much THIS Takahashi will contribute, or how he’ll contribute, but if he can, what the hell, give it a try. At the very least, it makes the club seem “friendlier” to Japanese players in the future.
That’s a fair breakdown by Phillies Nation. I can’t help but think that, given that we’re not done with the off-season, those 84 wins are a basic ceiling.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 21, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions
84 wins looks like a ceiling to me, too.
Every player projection is positive, assumes no significant injuries, and is optimistic in things such as giving Bay 4 wins and Santana 4.7. I think the Mets are done this offseason—they made no serious attempt to sign Piniero, and don’t seem to have a genuine interest in anyone else. If things generally go well this is an 80-85 win team. With normal bad breaks they’ll win 75.
by SeanSchirmer on Jan 21, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
This is clearly last ditch effort wishful thinking
but MAYBE, Jeff wants to bring in a more progressive front office, but Freddy won’t give him the authority to fire Omar, so instead he’s trying to make Omar look as bad as humanely possible to force Fred’s hand in firing him so he can rehire Benezard gm bring in some super genius???
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
It'd be easier to frame him for something so he could be fired with cause.
Of course, if Omar were Steve Phillips, there’d be no need to frame him.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 22, 2010 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
Hyde actually compared him to Dom Brown
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
Sheets
Regarding available pitching options, I have a hard time imagining Sheets would actually sign with us. I’m sure he’d love to have us drive up the bidding, but he is no doubt interested in demonstrating that he can pitch 175 or so healthy and productive innings in 2010 to position himself for a big multi-year deal. Give the rep of our medical staff, I can’t see that he’d be overly interested in being a Met.
Money changes everything
but, I do agree with you in that I think the Mets would have to overwhelm him in the face of a competing offer from, let’s say, the Cardinals (and pitching coach Dave Duncan) or maybe the Dodgers, I hear.
I mean, really, who would you rather pitch for? Tony LaRussa/Dave Duncan, Joe Torre/Rick Honeycutt, or Jerry Manuel/Dan Warthen?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Apparently we offered Molina way more money
5 million+ plus a vesting option compared to 1 year 4.5 million from the Giants and he rebuffed. And if they weren’t willing to come over the top of the angels deal for Piniero is there much reason to think they’d do it for Sheets, especially when I imagine it would take more of an overbid to get Sheets here.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Yes, but...
just offering “more” money doesn’t always outweigh the other factors like, in Molina’s case, he didn’t want to move his whole family out of California for, possibly, just one year. He wanted the second year guaranteed, which the Mets wouldn’t do.
Likewise, with respect to Sheets, I don’t think he come to the Mets just because we offer him more money. In other words, if the Cards or Dodgers come in with a deal which is close to what the Mets offer him, Sheets will go elsewhere. We would have to overwhelm him, I think. Hey, trust me, I hope I’m wrong.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
hmm, a double standard?
If “hitter FAs are scared away” from the Mets b/c of Citifield’s dimensions, shouldn’t pitcher FAs be equally drawn to it?
I understand that if you’re coming off of injury, you wouldn’t want to link up with folks who have the personality skills of Dr. House and the medical skills of Major Winchester from M.A.S.H., but shouldn’t the Citifactor have pitchers lining up at our door?
Not neccessarily
since the huge outfield means if a balls out of a outfielders range, and with our current line up a lot of balls are going to be out of their range, it can roll forever/take forever for them to get to it. So maybe fewer homers but more doubles/triples/hits in general.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Winchester was a good surgeon
Frank Burns was the role model for the Mets medical staff
"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore
Winchester was my favorite character.
Hawkeye, I can’t stand. He’s too big of a dick, too often. B.J. is cool.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 22, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Mets offered guaranteed 5.5m + vesting option. Giants offered guaranteed 4.5m +1.5m in incentives.
According to that NYTimes article, he decided to stay there because he believes he can stay healthy and reach those incentives.
Who's left besides Sheets?
Is Garland still available? Anyone else decent besides these guys? They have to get 1 guy at least. I’m starting to sense a Pedro return.
Garland's still around
and he’s the only one left in the category of “there’s a pretty good chance he pitches more than 120 innings”.
by SeanSchirmer on Jan 22, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
That's looking at the glass as half full
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
It sure is.
I make the Mets as essentially a .500 club after Beltran’s surgery. Very iffy starting pitching, four real question marks in the field, a decent bullpen that’s nothing special.
by SeanSchirmer on Jan 21, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
the plan is in front of us
dont you see, minaya will be our 4th or 5th starter so he can announce a major signing of himself, and he gets to l\keep one job so he will be working next year. i am thinking of becoming a royals fan so i can say het we got no money. our new slogan is now like the knicks : mets in 2011 and we have donnie walsh run the mets also.
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