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Rivalries Around the League: The Los Angeles Dodgers

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I have a little time before the Spring semester starts, so I decided it'd be fun to look back over some of the rivalries that we've had over the years. I figure, if I have the time, I'll make a bunch of these. So, without further ado, part I:

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When you think of rival teams, the Dodgers aren’t necessarily one of the ones that first pop up. Sure, the cities of Los Angeles and New York have been engaged in “friendly competition” for years now, each one claiming to be the “best” city in the United States (New York, of course *is*, but let those drama queens in L.A. think whatever they want), but as far as baseball goes, you never hear much about any kind of rivalry between these two teams. But, from a certain perspective, the Dodgers were the Mets’ very first rivals.

A quick history lesson is necessary, for those whose baseball knowledge doesn’t reach back that far, or for those who need a quick primer. The Dodgers used to play in Brooklyn. In 1950, Walter O’Malley was able to buy the majority share of control of the team away from Branch Rickey, of Jackie Robinson fame. For various reasons that I won’t bother getting into, attendance at Ebbets Field, the then-home of the Dodgers, began dwindling, even after they captured Brooklyn’s first- and only- world championship, in 1955. O’Malley proposed to Mayor Wagner that a domed stadium be built on the site of the Atlantic Yards- the very same site which, in a few years, will be home to the Nets. "Construction Coordinator” guru Robert Moses- who wielded a vast amount of political power at the time- did not like O’Malley’s proposal (for various reasons, some legitimate- such as the stadium causing subway transit problems- and some mired in his own hubris), and as such, lobbied to have it rejected, which it was, in favor of a plan that would build a new stadium in Flushing Meadows, Queens. Spurned, O’Malley was contacted by the City of Los Angeles in 1957, which was desperate to bring in a professional sports team.

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With a deal that was very favorable to him, O’Malley agreed to move the Dodgers out west- and in doing so, convinced Horace Stoneham, the frequently drunk and weak-minded owner of the Giants, to move west with him. At the end of the 1957 season, Walter O’Malley abandoned Brooklyn and selfishly moved out west to Los Angeles, ripping the heart out of the hundreds of thousands of fans in the borough, and taking away National League baseball from a city that has always been, unabashedly, a National League town. Their alternatives were to “switch allegiances”, so to speak, and follow the rival Yankees- as my own grandmother did- or to sit back and read watch the team from afar in the newspapers. All of that changed in 1962, however, when the New York Mets were born, of which the earlier teams consisted of a motley assortment of cast-offs from other clubs, players who would be Minor Leaguers elsewhere, and washed-up veterans, many of them former Dodgers (and Giants) themselves.

While the fledgling Mets had no trouble drawing crowds- they often outsold the Yankees, playing the horrible, horrible ball that the early Mets are known for- the games that had the most hustle-and-bustle were those games against the Dodgers, now of Los Angeles fame. That terrible, terrible man, Walter O’Malley dared to return, and the people of New York were going to stick it to him, and let him know how they felt about him! To make matters worse, many of the ‘Boys of Summer’ had moved on, either into retirement, or to other teams (many wound up on the Mets for some period of time). The Dodgers that were returning to New York were not the Dem Bums, but rather, a shell of what the Dodgers used to be. Only a few “friendly faces” remained, such as Don Drysdale, or Sandy Koufax.

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Now, it’s important to keep in mind that the Dodgers of the early-to-mid 1960s were a powerhouse of a team. From 1960 to 1966, the fewest games the Dodgers won were 80, and the team had two World Series Championships in three appearances to show for their efforts. In 1962, the Mets lost 16 of their 18 games against the Dodgers, with Sandy Koufax tossing a no-hitter against the Mets on June 30th, the first of four he would throw in his career, including a perfect game against the Cubs in September 9th, 1965. The trend continued in 1963, when the Mets lost, again, 16 out of 18 to the Dodgers, 1964, 1965, 1966, and 1967. Finally, in 1968, the Mets would win 11 games out of the 18 played against the Dodgers.

Two very important things were happening during this time. Firstly, as the adage goes, “time heals all wounds”. As more and more time passed, people began feeling less pain over the loss of the Dodgers, and as such, Mets-Dodgers games began meaning less and less. Secondly, the Mets began developing into a team. Under the leadership of Gil Hodges, the Mets would eventually become a “real” team, and capture pennant and become World Series Champions in 1969. With a “real” team to follow, and more time behind them, the connection New York fans had with the Dodgers diluted even more, and a passionate rivalry fell into dormancy.

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The Mets-Dodgers rivalry would once more rear its head in 1988, when both the Mets and Dodgers made it to the playoffs. The 1988 NLCS pitted the Dodgers against the Mets Dynasty-that-never-was. And, improbably, in a series that came down to the wire, the Dodgers won the series, crushing Mets playoff hopes. In Game 7, Orel Hershiser pitched a complete game shutout, limiting the Mets to only five hits.

As the 1990s approached, both teams fell into mediocrity, though in the mid-90s, the Dodgers would return to the playoffs, and in the late-90s, the Mets would return to the playoffs. The two would not meet again in meaningful October baseball until 2006, when the Mets and Dodgers played in the NLDS- a series that included a memorable gaffe as Paul Lo Duca recorded a double play at the plate. During this time, another controversy of sorts, another rivalry, in a manner of speech, would develop. This one would have nothing to do with records, however. It would center over a specific player.

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On May 22nd, Mike Piazza was traded from the Florida Marlins to the Mets, after having played there for a week, having been acquired by the Marlins from the Dodgers. In Los Angeles, Mike Piazza was the 1993 Rookie of the Year, and had a great deal of ‘hardware’ to show for his seven years of work- six All-Star Selections, five Silver Slugger Awards, and numerous MVP votes, including two second place votes in 1996 and 1997. As such, many Los Angeles Dodger fans claimed him as their own, now and forever.

Many Mets fans, however, take offense to the claim- and rightly so. Though Mike Piazza put up better individual seasons on the Dodgers, his career statistics with the Mets outshine his career statistics with the Dodgers in most categories. Piazza logged more games played, plate appearances, at-bats, runs scored, hits, doubles, home runs, RBI, and walks than he did in Los Angeles. Piazza played with the Mets for eight years, including a missed playoff run in 1998, and the playoff teams of 1999 and 2000, where many cite Piazza as being the driving influence for the team reaching the playoffs. And, of course, Mike Piazza’s dramatic home run on September 21st, 2001.

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The Mets-Dodgers rivalry has been very on-again, off-again in nature. It only came about to begin with because of certain specific circumstances, and continues to exist because of certain specific circumstances. With both teams being relatively successful of late, and both having a storied, intertwined, and interdependent history, it will be interesting to see how this rivalry plays out in the future.

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Good topic

And I think Dodgers belong here. I’ve always disliked the Dodgers for some reason, though as you said they’re not a team I’d consider an A-1 rival. 1988 was a bitter pill to swallow, and may be one of the reasons I’ve had this undercurrent of resentment towards them.

by dcmetsfan on Jan 7, 2010 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

never liked the Dodgers, though I've been at dodger stadium many times to see the

mets play, when I lived in LA. Ask the( Fred )Wilpons the Mets are the DODGERS in Queens….

by 1969met on Jan 7, 2010 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

why the Cubs?

They haven’t been in our division for 15 years. Cardinals I can see (i remember, Yadier Molina)

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Jan 7, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember So Taguchi

Since he opsed like 4.000 that series.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Jan 7, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Cubs and Cards are our original rivals

Cubs – 1969, Ron Santos, Black Cat, nuff said
Cards – Keith, Whitey, Pendleton, Coleman, McGee, Herr, 85 and 87 mostly, but the whole of the 80s.

by rcfriedberg on Jan 7, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

In SAT analogy terms

Cards in ’80s:Mets in ’80s::Braves in ’90s::Mets in ’90s

by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Jan 7, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at Dodger Stadium in 1988 and saw the Mets sweep the Dodgers

beating both Orel & Pedro’s big brother Ramon, who was then a rookie. In retrospect, I would have gladly traded one of those wins for one in October. BTW the legend about fans leaving early is 100% true. One of the games, we were up 3-2 after 6 innings and the race to the parking lot was on. It is also true that there is also a lot of long distance trips out there, even though Dodger Stadium is pretty centrally located. Well, at least they still have Vin… PS my mother learned baseball from my uncle who watched the Brooklyn Dodger games, and perhaps the one regret I have in life is that my sister and brother once went to a game in Ebbets Field — by the time i was born the Dodgers had been in LA for 2 years.

"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore

by StorkFan on Jan 7, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Great post

You could look at last off-season as another chapter in the rivalry, even though it has gotten little to no press.

Orlando Hudson, Randy Wolf and Manny Ramirez were all players Mets fans begged Omar to sign and yet all three ended up with the Dodgers.

by MLB DW on Jan 7, 2010 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

maybe if we had begged Omar to get Perez instead of dreading it

the Dodgers would have taken him from us, and we could have avoided the mess entirely.

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 7, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Supposedly they were interested in him

but settled for Wolf once we took him off the market.

lucky us.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Jan 7, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

as someone from ny

who lives in LA…LA is awesome – especially this time of year. It’s been in the 70s all week. How can you beat that?

by Mike Clemente on Jan 7, 2010 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

fresh air

I like breathing something I can’t cut with a butter knife

by MLB DW on Jan 7, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i live right on the beach…as fresh as the air can be. The sand gets everywhere though. That sucks

by Mike Clemente on Jan 7, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i lived

on 10th and pico in SM for 3 years. And the air isnt really that fresh. Better than Hwood or anywhere east of centinela really, but still kinda gross. And the fires were worse than this cold could ever be, albeit much shorter

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jan 7, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

NY

has two of the US’s top 5 beaches. Sure, they’re in eastern long island, but it still counts.

LA… none.

LA will never be a baseball city. NY has always been.

by MLB DW on Jan 9, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but LI isn't New York City

There are beaches in Brooklyn and Queens, though.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 9, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Brighton Beach is the most awesome beach ever.

God knows how many elementary school field trips to the aquarium I’ve been on. Probably one each grade…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the cold and snow

Not to drive in, but in terms of beauty, I’d take New York City covered in fresh snow over 70 degree LA any day (during the winter). There is a noticeable difference between the seasons in many places, and that is one of my favorite parts of nature.

The Mets lobby Omar for a plan, and his plan, he likes his plan. The problem is that he didn't write his plan down 'cause that makes it paperwork, and that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?

by Evan_S on Jan 7, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I like snow for a couple of hours

and then I have to shovel it…

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I used to love snow. I’d get the day off from school, got to play, do all that stuff…Now, I need to shovel it. And that sucks, most of the time.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 7, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I shovel it too

But I still love it

The Mets lobby Omar for a plan, and his plan, he likes his plan. The problem is that he didn't write his plan down 'cause that makes it paperwork, and that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?

by Evan_S on Jan 8, 2010 6:57 AM EST up reply actions  

same here

i would have trouble living somewhere without real seasons.

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 8, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder who Fred Wilpon roots for?

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Jan 7, 2010 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

Do you really wonder?

Theres no doubt in my mind who he roots for.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Jan 7, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously, the Mets

The Los Angeles Dodgers =/= The Brooklyn Dodgers. He’s a Brooklyn Dodgers fan.

Though it’s the same organization, they’re two separate entities.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 7, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I don't "really" wonder

Just being sarcastic.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Jan 7, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe sardonic is the better word.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Jan 7, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice

Wow, that pic of Koufax is incredible. Life would be so much better if the Dodgers were in Brooklyn, though I’d miss you guys.

by Pack Bringley on Jan 7, 2010 6:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

It's a still widely used from Ken Burns' Baseball, I believe.

I was looking at it, and what I was wondering is, who’s that up at bat against him? Possibly looks like someone on the Milwaukee Braves? Aaron, perhaps?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

As a Met fan living in L.A.

for the past 8 years, I’ve seen some interesting Met-Dodger games out here (i.e. Pedro’s almost no-no and the Jeremy Reed fielding collapse game this year), and I’ve noticed Dodger fans really don’t like us. At some point during each game the “New York Sucks” chant will get going. I always respond to that chant by saying, “you know it’s really lovely in Autumn, you should visit sometime.” I was here for the division clincher in ‘06, and had so much stuff thrown at me (peanuts, ice cream helmets, etc.) it was ridiculous, some gangster type dudes even said they were going to follow me and a friend into the parking lot after the game. And I was not even cheering loud! My wife won’t go to games at Dodger stadium anymore. Dodger fans can be some of the most abusive, ill-behaved fans you’ll ever meet.

by Mackey Sasser on Jan 7, 2010 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

That surprises me.

Given that everyone there gets there in the third inning, and leaves in the sixth, you’d think they’d be a docile bunch.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 7, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be the people from Hollywood and Santa Monica

The ones that are pegging you with crap is the guys from the hood that stole the tickets.

Kinda like when you go to the Bronx and notice if the Yankees are losing in the 7th inning, the lower level company seats are empty and the bleacher creatures wanna kick your ass.

by ddaone2 on Jan 7, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No totally true

fans do get there late (because they are drinking undercover in the lot) and leave early(because beer sales cut off in the 7th). the dodger fans are the Raider Fans of baseball. They are totally ignorant about the sport, talk crap, and start fights. Very similar to Boston Chouds.
I go to many dodger games a year , being stuck her in Cali, and quite ofter have been pelted with objects.
I was there for the clinch in the playoffs in 06 and a ran to my car to keep from the potential voiolence.

Jerry and Omar assclowns for life

by Ghost of seven in a row on Jan 8, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I went to a Dodger vs Padres game in 2006

My David Wright at the time was Mike Piazza. So while we were out in California to visit family, I dragged my family down to Petco Park to see good ol Mikey play. I wore my Piazza jersey, made a sign, and everything. Just my luck, it was Piazza’s night off. As I’m sitting there crying (I was 10), an, I’m assuming drunk, Dodger fan turned to me and said “Good. Serves you right. Now go back to New York.” As my mother was holding my father back from strangling the guy, I sat there and cried some more. Then my face was shown on the big screen and my brother practically tackled me to get my sign on the screen. Then a few people cheered, and I was happy. But that’s my reasoning for hating Dodger fans.

by wrightttxgirlllx3 on Jan 7, 2010 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

Piazza was my first favorite player too

The Mets lobby Omar for a plan, and his plan, he likes his plan. The problem is that he didn't write his plan down 'cause that makes it paperwork, and that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?

by Evan_S on Jan 7, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I want a Marlins rivalry

9/28/2008 – most shameful display of sportsmanship in my life. The Marlins need to be destroyed.

by rcfriedberg on Jan 7, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

...where was the bad sportsmanship?

The fact that they celebrated causing a division rival with a payroll many times their own to miss the playoffs? I didn’t like that they beat us but I didn’t see bad sportsmanship, I would be pumped too if I was in their position.

the number one issue facing the Mets is finding that one guy who’s going to say "get on my shoulders and ride me to the championship."

by Sokojoe on Jan 7, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome post!

i think growing up in the 90s the Mets toughest rival at that time had to be the braves, so a post about that would be very interesting, also a post about our rivalry with the evil empire would be awesome too because its something that runs really deep amongt both sets of fans!

Audentes fortuna iuvat

by Bianconero on Jan 7, 2010 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

I like to pretend that if the Dodgers and Giants never moved

I would have been a Dodgers fan. But the sad truth is that I would almost definitely be a Yankees fan – my grandpa and uncle are both Yanks fans, and my dad grew up one with Mantle and Ford and all of them, but then in an act of teenage rebellion (and also probably b/c Shea Stadium was a hell of a lot easier for a kid from Levittown to get to) became a Mets fan around ’64 (also conveniently when the Yankees started to decline).

Then again, cheering for 5 World Champions since I was 12 would have been a lot nicer than what the Mets have done to me.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jan 7, 2010 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

I also like to pretend I would have been a Dodgers fan had they not moved. I have Brooklyn roots, and even better, I would now live 10 blocks away from the would-have-been-built new Dodger stadium. That would have been unbelievably awesome.

By the way, a good book on the Dodgers and Giants moving is After Many a Summer. I saw the author speak at the Brooklyn Central Library, and it was pretty cool.

I don’t think it’s fair to say Moses lobbied to have the Atlantic-Flatbush location rejected so much as he refused to help. O’Malley wanted to have the neighborhood around condemned using authority given by federal law for public housing and incidentally have a nice new ballpark built on the same land. Moses refused to give in to this demand, showing more backbone that public officials today, with the generous funding given to the new Yankees and Mets stadiums.

That domed stadium mentioned in the original post would have cost an enormous amount of money by the way, especially the land. It was pretty much unbuildable without heavy help from the government, and O’Malley wanted to own the stadium.

Also, the historical record is somewhat unclear on when Stoneham actually decided to move the Giants. Based on letters, it appears that Stoneham was intent on moving the Giants no matter what, either to Minneapolis or SF, and had decided to do so before O’Malley committed to a course of action. That they ended up in a mutually beneficial arrangement, it’s safe to say, was due to O’Malley’s influence.

by mnbv on Jan 8, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Mayor Wagner basically had two competing groups to choose from- O’Malley and Moses. In the sense I was using the term, O’Malley was lobbying the mayor to do one thing- help fund and build the stadium at Atlantic Yards- while Moses was lobbying the mayor to do another thing- ignore his attempts to bargain for the stadium in Flatbush and convince him to move to Flushing.

And, yeah, Stoneham was planning on moving the Giants regardless, eventually. In a famous anecdote, when children approached him begging for him to keep the team in the Polo Grounds, he said something to the effect of, “I feel bad for you kids, but I haven’t seen your fathers in the stands lately”- in other words, he was feeling an economic drain, either real or imagined. He was starting to put together plans to move to Minneapolis, but was convinced by O’Malley to go to San Francisco instead, because O’Malley needed another team on the West Coast to make moving there more palatable for the league- if teams had to fly (which took longer back then) all the way to California for only a few days, the move probably would not have been approved by the MLB. With more teams, trips out west would be longer, and “worth it”, as opposed to only a few days, which wouldn’t be “worth it”.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 8, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention

that once they were both in California, they could continue their famous Dodgers-Giants rivalry since they were still “relatively” close to each other. During the waning years of the Giants at the Polo Grounds, their highest attendance for games were the ones with the Dodgers.

I think somewhat overlooked though, is how desperate the two California cities were in acquiring a major league franchise. San Francisco’s mayor spent a good amount of effort and money in luring the Giants there and offered more than Minneapolis would. Had that not been the case, I’m not convinced the Giants would have moved to SF despite O’Malley’s desires.

In the greater context of your original post, some people in LA did see taking away the Dodgers as a punch to NY’s face and humbling the self-styled greatest city.

by mnbv on Jan 8, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Robert Moses was a pretty terrible person

not that O’Malley wasn’t a selfish prick, but I don’t feel any need to see Moses as the “good guy” in that saga.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jan 8, 2010 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't like Moses either

but why lay more at his feet that he was actually culpable of? O’Malley was the driving force for the whole ordeal from beginning to end. When you consider the incredible real estate deal LA offered him, there’s almost nothing officials in New York could have done. I mean, they gave him a portion of the mineral rights for the land under Dodger Stadium! (At that time, oil rights being significant.)

If there was a “good guy” in this, it was George McLaughlin. The Wikipedia article doesn’t go into it, but he bitterly regretted helping O’Malley take control of the Dodgers and tried to set up a group to buy out the Giants so that at least one NY NL team could stay. The best part is that he wanted the group to be a non-profile organization with profits to be shared by the players. He was really disappointed in how selfish owners were.

by mnbv on Jan 8, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Cool post.

Made me think about when I lived in Brooklyn Heights during college and I’d see a bunch of older gentlemen in Brooklyn Dodgers jerseys playing brass on Montague St. Always thought the Dodgers – Mets rivalry was the most grounded, definitely heads and shoulders above any rivalry with the Yankees or shorter tenured but more meaningful rivalries with the Cubbies, Cards, and Braves. That the Wilpons have such a love affair with the Brooklyn Dodgers makes the rivalry even more bitter.

by Jamesir Bensonmum on Jan 8, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

There need to be an "Honorable Mention Rivaly" for

Mets vs. Yankees. And possibly Mets vs. Red Sox.

I live in Mass. now and they are still bitter about ’86.

"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner

by dissento on Jan 8, 2010 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

Well he said he's going to take a look at other rivalries.

So unless it’s just NL exclusive I imagine they’re on the list.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Jan 8, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

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2012 AA Prospects List #4
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Sandy Alderson, @MetsGM, and getting ready for Spring Training
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2012 AA Prospects List #1 (edit: and apparently #2)
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Two New York Players of OBP Yore

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