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Giants Advance To World Series Despite Trading Proven Winner™ Bengie Molina

While the Mets figure out which non-terrible GM candidate to hire, we can all rest comfortably knowing that neither the Yankees nor the Phillies will win the World Series this year. Congratulations to McCovey Chronicles and SB Nation Bay Area.

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Who would you like to see win the World Series?
Giants (Bengie Molina's former team)
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Rangers (Bengie Molina's current team)
290 votes

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I don't know

Part of me wants to see Jon Daniels get the win, Vladdy to get a ring, Texas to get a better shot at keeping Cliff Lee

And another part wants to see a team whose ace is a long-haired pothead with about the same physical build as me win it.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

either way

This is the first World Series since 2005 where the thought of one of the teams winning doesn’t make me retch.

And yes, EACH of the teams I didn’t want to see win, won from 2006-2009.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

which team has more casual or hardcore drug users?

they get my vote.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

well on one side we have lincecum and brian wilson

on the other we have ron washington…its probably a close call

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sure brian wilson needs drugs

unless you’re talking about the beach boy

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is *exactly* my thought about rooting interests here.

Basically I’m happy either way. My general desire, all things being equal, is to root for the NL team — but the Giants kind of bore me, and I would so, so love to see Vlad Guerrero get a ring, and so basically I’ll be pretty happy either way. Besides, the Rangers are going to massacre the Giants in pretty short order, so what’s the point getting tied in knots trying to pick a team?

by anonymous on Oct 24, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giants all the way.

No disrespect toward the Rangers at all though. Point is, I’m happy right now.

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NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 24, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

A-Rod and Howard

do great Beltran impressions.

I’m sorry, I’ve forgiven Beltran, but that was too easy.

"If this doesn't light your fire, men, the pilot light is out."

by Lonborg and champagne, Ollie and vodka on Oct 24, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm just glad Phillies fans can't hang that over us ever again.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is great to see

that a team with great starting pitching and a knockout lineup can be had. Of course, it is only great starting pitching if it pitches great. I think if Lewis continues to pitch like something he is not, the rangers win. The giants are encouraging, though. Their Ollie will probably blow them up, but it is nice to see a team with an objectionable starting lineup win. Maybe there is hope for us after all. If we can get to a playoff, have two top starters, and somehow the notion of timely hitting resurfaces for our team, ……..aaah, forget it.

by jdon on Oct 24, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least ours was in Game 7

although if would be good to have a championship within a year or two like they both have

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go Rangers

Still got hate for Matt Cain…

To be the man, you've got to BEAT the man!

by Prime Time 21 on Oct 24, 2010 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Huh?

I guess my conversation with God stays private.

by Pack Bringley on Oct 24, 2010 12:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Giants

but I’ll be happy if the Rangers win too.

Sandy Alderson for Mets GM
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 24, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

This

Quick! To the Schianocopter

by steelinnj on Oct 24, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like both teams but

if former players are going to sway me, I’d rather see Mota lose

by lstorie1971 on Oct 24, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it's time to admit

that I was pulling for Philly in that NLCS

"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan

by metsguy234 on Oct 24, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I DON'T KNOW YOU

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

that’s unfortunate for you.

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NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

Quick! To the Schianocopter

by steelinnj on Oct 24, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

flagged

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

This...

Flagged as well.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

get off my lawn

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Oct 24, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

um....why?

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

because I feel like we treat them like shit

"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan

by metsguy234 on Oct 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

x1000

Quick! To the Schianocopter

by steelinnj on Oct 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

because they drank our milkshake

and then vomited it on some cop’s kid.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand how we all seem to know loads of Phillies fans

"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan

by metsguy234 on Oct 24, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

because a lot of people

travel outside the NY area? And Philly is fairly close?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have to know fans of a team to dislike said team

and it’s pretty obvious Philadelphia fans in general suck

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Point is, we do.

And they are dipshits.

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NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

This this and this.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

im pretty sure metsguy is a victorino fan

there was a big discussion earlier about how he liked victorino for the same reasons he dislike reyes.

the poor kid is confused

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

15 will get you 20

like i said in go’ga highschool guys are much older

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

They’re all 25 aren’t they?

by Evan_S on Oct 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

no they kick them out at like 21

but there’s a ton of 10th grade 17-18 year olds

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah ummmm...Reference missed.

I can understand why this is the case though

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

well a lot of it is actually football

no lie they “red shirt” kids so they’re bigger once they get to high school.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha rec'd.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

He would be the patron saint...

Of Unfortunate Rectum Faces.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have very close friends who are Phillies fans

I have 124 text messages from one just tonight. He knows I hate them, I know he hates the Mets. It doesn’t affect our friendship.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Facepalm

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my dear boy...

You have so much to see in this world.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

...that's inane

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Oct 24, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Umm what?!?!?

They vomit on people! They throw batteries and beer bottles at people!!! They boo SANTA CLAUS!!!!!

They deserve every bad word they get!

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You do realize

that they all unequivocally hate us too, right?

by Ryan_86 on Oct 24, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Question for metsguy234

have you ever been to a Phillies game in Philly ?.

If you have, I want you to share your experience.

if you haven’t, I want you to go try it, and then report back to us.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

make sure to go flying mets colors too

don’t try to blend it. You’ll enjoy their scenic parks, a quality baseball game, their spilled drinks on you, the food thrown at you, the constant vulgar insults thrown, its a glorious environment.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget the vomit

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh yes and the vomit

more vomit than you can shake a stick at, although i personally haven’t been vomited on

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be the contrarian

When I went to a Mets game in Philly, they were mostly nice. We heard a few comments here and there, but most of them were stupid and I didn’t care.

They were nice, though, because there isn’t a rivalry now. If the Mets were an above-average team, well, I’d be in the warzone.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Oct 25, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i was there in the heat of rivalry during 2007 and right after the 2007 fiasco

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was at a Mets game here, with lots of Phillies fans,

and many of them were not nice.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 25, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

your feelings do not betray you

we do treat them like shit, and they should be thankful we don’t treat them like something lower than shit (does shit shit?). They’re a bunch of violent, vulgar, obnoxious assholes, and they deserve whatever we throw at them and then some.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

plus, their city is the asshole of the world.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's not forget even if the city was a beautiful place filled with swell folks, the phillies themselves are a bunch of punk losers

what other team could be fixated on the mets AFTER they won the damn world series?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are things that eat shit

I would assume those things themselves shit later. That shit – the shit that is shit by a being that consumes shit – that, my friends, is the Phillie fan.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

Let's never bunt again.

by Thomas Wachtel on Oct 24, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greenpoint Ian

What do Kevin Smith and Jason Mewes have to do with any of this?

by lupojohn3 on Oct 25, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

First off, you don't have to question every single obscure reference made

Second, you must not have seen “Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back” because in that movie, there’s a whole dialogue about shit-eaters

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 25, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This comment

might have the record for most replies in AA history. Well done, esp. considering it was made after midnight on a Saturday night.

by Sokojoe on Oct 24, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was tough

I really would like to see both teams win, but I’ll go with the Giants since I think the Rangers have a better chance of getting back there again.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I do NOT want to see the Giants win

You leave New York, you suffer the consequences.

by chakrabs on Oct 24, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

No, that was Jerry DiPoto

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think at this point

Alderson will be named GM before the WS starts

by aparkermarshall on Oct 24, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Live by the short porch...

Die by the short porch.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe I said...
THAT’S WHAT YOU GET FOR BUILDING A FAKE BALLPARK, TAINTS

or something like that at the time.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

Let's never bunt again.

by Thomas Wachtel on Oct 24, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Phillies aren't a dynasty

they aren’t even the mid-90s Braves. They’re more like the Angels since 2002.

by Five-Tool Tool on Oct 24, 2010 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

This is a tough one

I’ll go with the Giants because they’re NL, but I just want to see 7 wonderful games.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 24, 2010 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't decide

If I don’t have anyone to root against I have no basis for choosing teams.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

Let's never bunt again.

by Thomas Wachtel on Oct 24, 2010 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

1 word....Frenchy

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

2 words, 2 latters

fuck a DH

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

But don't we non-NL East teams that use a good process?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

"dont we love non"

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you saying

Brian Sabean doesn’t use good process???

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

fixed

are you saying Brian Sabean doesn't use good process???

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi, I wasn't on the NLCS roster

fix’d

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually feel kind of bad for him

I know he sucks, but it has to feel really shitty to not even be on the playoff roster.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow i didnt think of that

it would REALLY suck if they won it all

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was the mets of pitching

it all fell apart in July

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha this.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the 86 Mets teach us anything....

It’s that he’s gonna lose….

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drift....Gotten.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

drugs are gud, mkay

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares about who wins? This WS is already an Epic Win!

Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!

by R_Adragna on Oct 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Five-Tool Tool's Hat Tip of the Night

Jeremy Affeldt, faced 6 batters after relieving Jonathan Sanchez and retired them all including a stellar job entering the game with 2 runners on base and nobody out.

by Five-Tool Tool on Oct 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

That's gangsta

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

For a moment I thought the pitching coach told Sanchez to hit Utley

so Affeldt would have more time to warm up.

But I doubt Sanchez could have hit Utley if he meant to.

by Shevshevy on Oct 24, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Five-Tool Tool's Series goats.

Anyone who played SS for the Giants this series: 2-24. Yuck.

Ryan Howard: Did hit .318 with a solid OPS, but 12 K’s is inexcusable in 6 games.

Both teams tonight had 20 runners LOB apiece. How this game was 3-2 still eludes me.

by Five-Tool Tool on Oct 24, 2010 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait what

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

20 LOB apiece?

That isn’t right, is it?

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think MLB.com does it differently

For example, if 2 runners get on base and three guys all get out that’s 2 LOB apiece and they add up to 6.

So I just took it from here. Skewed, maybe, but I got your attention, didn’t I?

by Five-Tool Tool on Oct 24, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit...

Yeah you did. That LOB number had me unclear on reality.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm.....

Conception like creation of the idea or conception like creation of you? The latter is well, far more hilarious than the former. Sorry, nothing against you, just funny.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

sort of OT

But I finally tip-toed over to McCovey Chronicles. The game threads from Uribe’s bomb on are fantastic.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Link?

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/10/23/1770290/beat-philadelphia-thread-v

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh this is a winner.

rec’d. this needs to be used from now on.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we appropriate this? Please?

We can bring it out every time metsguy wonders why we hate the Phillies

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Oct 24, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's fantastic

Cypress Hill just makes that even better.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

its more than that isn't it?

like 425 million?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

With A-Rod's bonuses it might be

I just went off of B-ref’s contract info to get 268 million from 2008-2017.

by DaveNJ on Oct 24, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well done

rec’d

Quick! To the Schianocopter

by steelinnj on Oct 24, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't care who wins the WS

My season is now over and I’m satisfied with the results of the past few days.

i’m still not really sure how the giants are there, but don’t care enough to investigate.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

dumb luck

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

basically they're Omar's 06 team

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far

They have an excellent bullpen, and three really good young starters.

Their offense was likely somewhat fluky, but I wouldn’t say it was all dumb luck.

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by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Omar's 06 team

had an excellent bullpen, 2 really good, much better than Sanchez and Cain even, young position players, a bunch of players off the scrap heap, like the giants, and beltran and pedro.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's pretty much omar 101 in team building

surround your stars with a bunch of reclamation projects and hope they all bounce back. they just got lucky it worked.

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by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

they didn't have pedro in 2006 playoffs right

its DUMMYBALL!! Brian Sabean’s strategy seems to be to collect cheap mediocrity to surround a handful of good young players. A lot like Omar I agree.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

right

They’d better win it all, because Pat Burrell and Aubrey Huff aren’t going to rise from the dead again next year.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

and they're trying to break lincecum

like we broke wright

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by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's see if Sabean pulls an Omar Special and

resigns all of these guys to multi year contracts. Now that would truly Omarian.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

way ahead of you boss

see aaron rowand and barry zito

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by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

They may be locked up

But they either rode the bench or weren’t even on the roster this postseason. Beats carrying around yiur left handed albatross all season.

by theflicker on Oct 24, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

they carried both all season

just like we carried Ollie.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those are obviously bad contracts but the real test will

be to see if brings back guys like Burrell and Huff and Ross to longterm expensive contracts like Omar did with Jose Valentin, Oliver Perez, Guillermo Mota, El Duque etc. That’s a shitty GM at work.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking back at the stats

I’m shocked how mediocre the Mets rotation was that regular season. Trachsel and Glavine made 30 and 32 starts respectively, but starters 2-5 were a wild card most of the season (El Duque and Pedro made 20 and 23 starts) but the Mets had 13 different starting pitchers that year, one more than this year’s team.

Fun little piece of trivia: the 2003 Mariners are the only team in MLB history to have all 162 games started by only 5 starting pitchers. Pretty phenominal.

by Five-Tool Tool on Oct 24, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow..... Trachsel was worth .1 WAR in 2006

It’s incredibly we won the division by that many games despite his presence in our rotation all year

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by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

But

he was a 15 game winner!

by DaveNJ on Oct 24, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

this would have been a shining example for why WAR was a better indicator of talent

than win loss when we were discussing it the other day

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the ALCS

would be a great example of why WAR is a better indicator of talent than won-loss record as well. Here’s each matchup:
Colby Lewis: W-L 12-13 WAR 4.4
Phil Hughes: W-L 18-8 WAR 2.4

CC Sabathia: W-L 21-7 WAR 5.1
CJ Wilson: W-L 15-8 WAR 4.4

Cliff Lee: W-L 12-9 WAR 7.0
Andy Pettite: W-L 11-3 WAR 2.3

AJ Burnett: W-L 10-15 WAR 1.3
Tommy Hunter: W-L 13-4 WAR 0.7

We obviously know WAR isn’t the only thing to go by, but I think we can show folks that this along with other metrics are better things to use than saying “I know Phil Hughes is gonna win tonight because he won 18 ballgames & Colby Lewis is a journeyman.”

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 24, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Preaching to the choir.

Explain that to someone who relies on W/L, and you’ll get get…Well, you know.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 24, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mets had a below replacment level pitcher

make 60 starts that season.

Wagner led the entire pitching staff in WAR that year.

by Five-Tool Tool on Oct 24, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just for fun here all those below threshold starters from 2006:

Geremi Gonzalez
Jose Lima (-1.2 WAR in only 4 starts)
Mike Pelfrey
Oliver Perez
Alay Soler
Steve Trachsel
Dave Williams
Victor Zambrano

by Five-Tool Tool on Oct 24, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope the ratings are good

Maybe that will show Fox and ESPN that people are interested in more than just the Yankees, Sox, and Phillies

by lstorie1971 on Oct 24, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

The idiot casual fan probably won't be interested because it doesn't involve JETAH

and they’re going to especially horrible for Game 4

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by Syler on Oct 24, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

San Fran and Dallas are massive markets though

I imagine there will be a ton of people jumping on the bandwagon. Plus it has star name draws with guys like Hamilton, Lee and Lincecum.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm assuming texas is going to sweep

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that about Tampa Bay in 2008

sigh…..

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

one more great line from McCovey Chronicles
Mitch Williams looks like his stomach is upset from the bag of unwashed dicks he ate before the game.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 1:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I lol'd.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

omg this is awesome

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Oct 24, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's obvious those Giants fans don't post at McCovey Chronicles

There are way too few f-bombs.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Playoffs are such a crapshoot

the poor Phillies trade Lee, get Halliday and Oswalt, Hamels has a resurgence, and what do you know. I am beginning to think that the measure of a GM is just getting to the post season.

by jdon on Oct 24, 2010 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course

If the 2006 Cardinals weren’t enough evidence that the playoffs area fluke, nothing is.

Now excuse me while I go slam my head against the wall multiple times for reminding myself of the 2006 Cardinals.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah thats pretty accurate

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a great week

A welcome relief for our suffering. Now get the GM inked up and we can start to relax a bit, eh?

Excellent - everybody knows that.

by Dandy Salderson on Oct 24, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

51% to 48%?

The AA community is really that divided?

by Brittannia on Oct 24, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

a house divided

can still sit around

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted Rangers, pretty much for the reasons GPI listed.

but I could care less. I just want to watch an enjoyable series. Hope it goes 7.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Go Giants!

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 24, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Gotta go Giants just to my general hatred of the DH

I can’t say I really like or hate either of the choices this year, which should actually make it a fairly enjoyable to watch

by Stephen Schmidt on Oct 24, 2010 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed Schmidt

I am NL fan after the Mets.

is the World Series going to be on Fox?

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 24, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I went with Texas, mainly because I picked them from the beginning of the postseason to win the WS. They beat the Yankees too, which is cool in my book.

by nmigliore on Oct 24, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah me too

Last year during spring training I picked the Giants to win the WS. This year I picked the Rangers. So I like this matchup. I’m pulling for the Rangers but I also like the Giants.

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Oct 24, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going Texas

Only cause I think its cool that after never winning a playoff series before this season they could win it all. Either way it should be an epic pitching matchup (Lee, Wilson, Lewis) v. (Lincecum, Sanchez, Cain)

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Oct 24, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm fine either way

Like others have said, I’m just glad I can just watch a World Series without really caring who wins.

by DaveNJ on Oct 24, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Only wish the Rangers lose so Frenchy doesn't get a WS ring.

Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher

by jimmontg on Oct 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Go Frenchy! :)

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Oct 24, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That's grission.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

This is.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No no no...

Look at that picture again…i see:

Doesn’t care, unclutch losery loser, gritty short player in the middle, clubhouse cancer and dancing loser.

What have those guys ever won?

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

unpatriotic clubhouse cancer*

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is it that i never noticed the steroidal grin on nearly every existing photo of

Capt. Red Ass?

I.M. Forme
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by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

“hee-haw” by David

by jdon on Oct 24, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont understand why the poll is as close as it is.

Are some of you pulling for Frenchy? C’mon, admit it!

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 24, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm for the Rangers

Though not with any particular passion. They’ve never sniffed it before, for one thing, so that’s exciting. And though I despise the DH, I seem to have some slight animus against the Giants just stemming from the fact that we play them. And – I pull for Frenchy, I can’t help it.

by SuperT on Oct 24, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

lady enough, actually

which probably does have something to do with the Frenchy love.

by SuperT on Oct 24, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see.

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 24, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap

I finally voted and it’s tied: 135 for SF, 135 for Texas.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I went with San Francisco

I like Lincecum, and there’s another big reason that we’re not supposed to talk about on this blog. Hint: it has to do with one of the more well-known Rangers fans.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

crack cocaine?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I lobby that the game thread for this series

is called “the Not-Philadelphia Phillies vs the Not-New York Yankees.”

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Im still on the fence with this one

on the one hand, Texas has never won one, so it would be nice to see them get it. On the other hand, San Fran made my dreams come true last night in a picture perfect manner, so I feel I owe them, plus NL baseball > AL. Tough call.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the only reason this might be a tough decision, IMO, is because Texas has never won a WS.

But I’m still pulling for San Fran because NL>AL and they made Philly fans cry.

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 24, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea the philly thing really puts it over the top for me i think

I was leaning Texas until they K’d Howard looking to end the game, making my dreams come true. Its hard to not believe im supposed to cheer for the Giants now, but if Texas takes it, i won’t be upset.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 24, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

the giants have served their purpose---

now I discard them. I’m pullin for the cokehead manager and the addict CF. Plus, I kind of like Cliff Lee.

by jdon on Oct 24, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Met wants you to root for the Giants

I’m not sure who I’ll root for. It’ll just develop as the series develops.

by lstorie1971 on Oct 24, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

The only thing that sucks

is the way I’ll continue to confuse New Yorkers by making excited comments about the Giants and the Rangers. My
locker room at work has a pretty clear football bias, and the TX Rangers are on nobody’s radar, I guess. Anyway it’s an epic New York intrasport battle!

by Pack Bringley on Oct 24, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

browsing my recent Facebook posts

My page is littered with mockery of the Yankees and Phillies with a few shout outs to SF and Texas. I realize I probably haven’t ever enjoyed this much sweet schadenfreude over sports in such a short time.

I was absolutely certain we’d have a 2009 World Series rematch after Minnesota and Cincinnati imploded. Now we won’t have either one from that series. It’s wonderful.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

which is why I'm certain

something horrific and utterly unexpecting is coming. Rangers-Giants, world series, alderson and byrnes as the finalists for the job, we can’t have this much good news without bad news. This is still a mets site.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alderson will bring back Maine, keep Ollie, and bring back Frenchy.

that’s how it could all come crashing down.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh that's not big enough

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the status quo

we could handle that; our hides are thick

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alderson deals David Wright and Jose Reyes and gets back

Pat Zachry, Steve Henderson, Doug Flynn and Dan Norman. Then he brings back Frenchy and signs him for 4 years @ 40 million and acquires Yuniesky Betancourt to play SS.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

no something like

alderson comes in for like 2 months, makes multiple brilliant moves and makes us think we actually can contend as soon as 2011…then goes out for cuban food gets injured, not mortally but enough to make him retire to spend more time with his family, Bill Bavasi is hired to replace him and immediately makes the above moves.

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by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to think of a bad GM who was available and

I totally forgot about Bill Bavasi. All I can say is I’m surprised the Wilpons didn’t bring him in for an interview…he seems like a perfect candidate for this team.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously Bavasi hires Joe Torre to right the ship

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is exactly worst case scenario

Which can also read: most likely scenario.

In my version, Alderson has the same great two months, which results in a whole bunch of media and fan praise. Meanwhile, Jeff lurks in the background growing insane with jealousy a la F. Murray Abraham in Amadeus, plotting the inevitable murder and subsequent Ricco promotion.

Excellent - everybody knows that.

by Dandy Salderson on Oct 24, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

I doubt anyone cares, but FYI, I am the same borasblog poster. New login name. (unless Byrnes is hired :)

Excellent - everybody knows that.

by Dandy Salderson on Oct 24, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Rangers

No reason to root for any team that left NY high and dry.

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by Blame-everyone-else on Oct 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm rooting for the rangers because they haven't won the series before.

But I’d be happy for the giants to win too. Lincecum is pretty awesome.

by Shevshevy on Oct 24, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

If they were called the Dallas Rangers

the Giants would have a 2-1 lead in this poll.

by Pack Bringley on Oct 24, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I don't want to see Frenchy get a ring

And NL>AL

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by firejerrynow on Oct 24, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I always root for the National League team

phillies, braves, doesnt matter as long as the national league wins.

by Rats on Oct 24, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd be indifferent to the braves

i could never root for the phllies, and probably not this particular marlins team…or the dodgers cause their fans are nearly as bad as the phillies. Off the top of my head those are the only NL teams I don’t think I’d root for.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cannot root for

Braves
Phillies
Cards

The rest of the NL I can take or leave

by lstorie1971 on Oct 24, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much

I can’t root for the Yankees or Boston in the AL either.

I’m fine with the other 24 non-Mets teams in baseball.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs fans are responsible for that dumb "throw the ball back on the field" tradition

Worse, if they won, I’m concerned everyone will have to deal with the same metamorphosis that have made Red Sox fans such a pain to deal with post-2004. “Cub Nation”? I’d really rather not have that. Not to mention how Steve Bartman got treated.

It’s nowhere on the same level as, say, the Phillies, but I would definitely put the Cubs on a lower tier than the Padres, Reds, or even Nationals.

by DaveNJ on Oct 24, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can root for Texas

primarily because I never think of them

by jdon on Oct 25, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

What makes this better...

Look right over Howard’s head and you will see a guy with a hat, and a girl behind him. Right behind the girl is a guy who appears to fall over as soon as strike 3 in called. It’s a perfectly painful moment.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

on that note

right above the MLB logo is someone (you can’t see their head) who turns away and appears to put their hands up to their face as soon as the strike is called. It’s pretty fun too.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've watched the video of this about 20 times since last night

It still hasn’t gotten old.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I might watch this on loop for the next hour.

I’d have a smile on my face every time.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's my new screensaver.

But that really was a close pitch.

For all my dislike for Philadelphia, and while his contract is insane, I just can’t summon any dislike for Howard. That has to feel really, really bad.

by Jack Str on Oct 24, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is wonderful

Seeing that little girl waving the towel suddenly freeze as well as the guy falling over make it even better.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 24, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

lolphillies

U mad?

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 24, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did you grab this.....

I must have it. My company’s HQ is in Philly.

I can haz email ?

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got it from one of the McCovey Chronicles threads

Just drag the photo to your desktop, or right-click and save

Sandy Alderson for Mets GM
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 24, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't stop watching this with glee

"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even know existed" -Casey Stengel

by cuseindahuse on Oct 25, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching Howard strike out last night

was literally the exact opposite of how I felt when Beltran struck out in ’06.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Oct 24, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else want to feel good about another thing?

Dom Brown’s OPS+ from his fall callup is lower that….drumroll please…Luis Castillo this season. Small sample and all the other disclaimers apply, but I have a feeling that I’ll be mentioning this to every Phillies fan I meet this offseason. Enjoy being Werthless!

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 24, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

you're setting yourself up for lots of mocking hate mail

when he wins rookie of the year or something next year.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lobby for Brown to become the next L-Millz (performance-wise and douchelevel-wise)

and then get dealt to the Nationals for 2 shit players.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 24, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking this too...

It would signal a change of approach by the gods, and there would be much rejoicing.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 25, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope...

Can have consequences.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 25, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading the game-ending thread over at the Phils blog (ah, schadenfreude), I found this:
The human element needs not to affect that last at bat as much. The game is in philly, Howard takes a borderline pitch low and outside, the hometeam should get the call, bottom line. That was not right for the ump to make that call there.

Emphasis mine. That’s an interesting interpretation of “home-field advantage”.

by DaveNJ on Oct 24, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT ?

for real ?……….holy shit.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man...

I misread his post and thought that DaveNJ posted that as a joke. I was about to award him some sort of international trolling honor, but then I realized that it was mere homerism.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 25, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt I could come up with anything with anything nearly as funny as the stuff in that thread.

And with a thread full of comments like that,

Looking!? What an asshole
and
Like we could expect anything else. These guys [the umpires] are in the MLB’s pocket (or the broadcasters?) to fix the playoffs.
nothing I could come up with as an impersonator would stand out amongst what the Phillies fans were coming up on their own even if I tried.

by DaveNJ on Oct 25, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i caught that second one too, it amused me greatly

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by KeithsMoustache on Oct 26, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have

this strange desire to troll BeerLeaguer since they, along with other Philadelphia personalities, were so vocal in their support of the Howard contract. Of course during their defense of the contract, they went to the old “sabermetricians need to watch the game with THEIR EYES” routine. The irony here is incredible.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 24, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean favorite "whine"

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this is why we hate the Phillies

Sums it up perfectly

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Oct 24, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

how long till jayson starks write an article on this premise?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

One guy proposed some vague cross-sports anti-Philly conspiracy by officials (“You ever notice that all Philly teams seem to get fucked at home alittle.” [sic]) and another, more reasonable, guy said that the “Phillies crapped themselves” by not winning after the starter got pulled in the 3rd. The thread veered towards discussion of this second thing, but no one suggested that the idea “close play goes to the home team” was completely absurd.

Here’s the comment.

by DaveNJ on Oct 24, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This makes me to the happy dance.

linky

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

as does this...

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

and this.....

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 24, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

that's fantastic

Some douche was at the Cal game in Phillies attire? And I thought it was obnoxious to see people walking around Greenpoint in Phillies hats….

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is fucking awesome

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost feel sorry for Whole Camels

He’s a decent fella.

Almost….

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 24, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the last pitch

Was it a mile outside like most of the balls he called strikes were?

by jdon on Oct 24, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks

it looked like it was there. Good. Some of the ball strike work in these series was horrible.

by jdon on Oct 24, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

someone needs to get the rest of the screens and turn this into a gift

with a kamehameha beam coming out.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 24, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw the Giants

That’s my policy.

Go Rangers, of the baseball and hockey varieties.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 24, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Rooting for Rangers

Think about it. The Phillies traded off Lee to bring in ‘Doc’. No World Series as result, while Lee can win one for the Rangers. Phillies fan will then question their decision for years if the Rangers win it. Oh what sweet sweet bitter irony.

"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even know existed" -Casey Stengel

by cuseindahuse on Oct 25, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Ooh...cynical!

I like it. Just another reason to root for Texas!

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 25, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

good counterargument to the giants knocking out the phils

its the fast gratification vs the slow burn. Not sure which one I prefer

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Oct 25, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back at Election HQ

The Giants have nosed in front. I am astounded by how divided our house is on this.

"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." ~ E. B. White

by CTRefJay on Oct 25, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Has anyone checked

the exit polls on this one?

What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?

by StorkFan on Oct 25, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm calling shenanigans...

I heard that the Kannonlazer was intimidating voters…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 25, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." ~ E. B. White

by CTRefJay on Oct 26, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

More on this story on

Decision: 2010

"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." ~ E. B. White

by CTRefJay on Oct 26, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome- I spelled it correctly.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

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