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Sandy Alderson Introductory Press Conference Live Blog

I'll be posting updates as the press conference progresses. Hit the refresh button! Listen in here.

  • 2:12--Alderson makes joke about his role in Moneyball. Values uniformity in coaching philosophies throughout organization. 
  • 2:14--Says manager needs to be intellectual, intuitive, and emotional. Downplays the idea of him meddling with manager's decisions. 
  • 2:16--Characterizes his freedom with ownership relative to his ability to articulate justifications to the owners. 
  • 2:17--Isn't going to write off an asset (release Oliver) solely because of public opinion.  
  • 2:19--"The mathematics don't lie."
  • 2:19--Re: drop in major league homeruns making his philosophies obsolete: "Just because there's less gold, doesn't make it less valuable." 
  • 2:21--Characterizes Mets farm system as middle of the pack. "In our situation, we should never be middle of the pack."
  • 2:23--Jeff Wilpon's expression never changes. 
  • 2:23--Alderson deflects a question about his age with a deftness reminiscent of Reagan's "I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign."
  • 2:27--Alderson pwns Marty Noble. "I'm focused on 2011 and not on things that are, at this point I hope, historical in nature."
  • 2:28--"I have tremendous interest in the internationalization of the game." Talking about extending the Mets brand into China, elsewhere. 
  • 2:30--Deflects question about changing Citi's dimensions by pointing out his experience with PETCO.
  • 2:31--Reads from his resume: "Friendly but professional," "Fun work environment," "Analytical but innovative," "Bold but alert to risk and probabilities." If anyone else did this, it would seem vain. 
  • 2:34--"If we had 200(?) more at bats from Jason Bay, we would have been competitive."
  • 2:35--Q&A ends. Likely terrible interview with Kevin Burkhardt coming.  

Burkhardt post-presser interview:

  • Re: complementary major leaguers: "You never know who's going to turn out to be great."
  • "Got to put back-to-back drafts together." Doesn't he know about Eddie Kunz??
  • 2012--Commitments drop from 130-40 million to 60 millon. Good year to be aggressive. 
  • Burkhardt is a mong.
  • Re: building for Citi Field: "You can overcorrect." "The infield doesn't change."

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HE SAID OBP IS IMPORTANT, AND THAT MATHEMATICS DON'T LIE!!!

OMG yes.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

OMFG OMFG

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

praise the lord!

Can I get an amen?

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 29, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Randall

asking whether Selig’s lobby had an influence on him taking the job. And the “age” question came up.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

age really matters

Rob Dibble would be a better GM than Frank Cashen because Dibble is 42 years younger

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 29, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

SPACE MAGIC

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Marty Noble is a moron

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Where'd he get his information from?

Google Boy…

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

YES! MORE ASIAN PLAYERS!!!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

more Chinese players?

i dunno.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wang is Chinese

A Dickey-Wang combo would do wonders!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wang is Chinese Taipei

not Chinese

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taiwan is China

The Republic of China, as opposed to mainland China, which is the People’s Republic of China.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are two seperate countries, though.

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Oct 29, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but both are Chinese

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find myself agreeing with you BDMF...wow.

Politics aside, Taiwan IS Chinese. Let’s not make a big deal of that. lol

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

What, you don't normally agree with me?

I’m a very agreeable person!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea...except I'm disagreeable, usually lol

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually not

I don’t think there are really any international organizations that recognize them as two different countries. That’s why they play as “Chinese Taipei” in int’l athletics.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taiwan = Republic of China

The China you know = People’s Republic of China

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Oct 29, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but they ain't two different countries

They’re two governments competing— they both claim all the same land: China claims Taiwan, and Taiwan claims China. They both call themselves China. They speak Chinese in both places.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

no they are two entirely separate countries with two entirely separate governments

Taiwan has not claimed China for a long time now.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that makes them two seperate countries

with a claim on the same land. To be a country you have to belong to one sovereign state, two sovereign states on the same land mass constitutes two separate countries.

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by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are two separate aren't sharing the same land at all

Taiwan has what is called “de facto” sovereignty. The PRC government or any mainland govt really has nothing to do with the day to day running of Taiwan and hasn’t for 60 years.

The argument is over “de jure” sovereignty, which the PRC has a problem with, and by extension, has been able to successfully persuade the international community in general not to recognize ROC sovereignty, and exclude the ROC govt. from many orgs in international society, etc.

If they looked into it, most American’s, being the ardent fans of self-determination that we are, would probably recognize Taiwan’s right to self-determination, as Congress has traditionally done (admittedly with the help of some serious $$ and lobbying on the part of the ROC esp during the 1980s). Geopolitics and Chinese/ PRC power are what keep this dispute from resolution in the final analysis.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say they share the same land

I said they claimed the same land

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, no

The United Nations recognizes the PRC as being “China”, hence them having the seat of China. The RoC, Taiwan, does not have a seat in any UN bodies (mostly because of pressure exerted by the PRC, which, for obvious political reasons, wants to deny Taiwan any independent political opinions, or the name “China”.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but they don't anymore.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyhow, ROC is China, PRC is China

I think you agree with me that they aren’t really separate countries, like N Korea and S Korea both being Korea.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

like The United States and Texas being America.

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by CTRefJay on Oct 29, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

In effect, they are two seperate countries.

Two different governments, each with a different outlooks on how to govern. Ethnically and culturally, the people of Taiwan and mainland China are, more or less the same, with 98% of Taiwan being of ethnic Han ancestry.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

yea, they’re different countries, in a similar way to how Ireland is two different countries. For the purposes of this discussion, however, a person from Taiwain is “Chinese” just like a person from Belfast is just as Irish as a person from Dublin

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Oct 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

An excellent analogy.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's what I was trying to say

If Alderson is saying they could scout Chinese players, to my ear, that could include Taiwan.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Most people don’t get into the intricacies of international diplomacy, like we do at AA. Someone who is Chinese can be from either Taiwan, or the PRC. They are two separate countries, though, or, rather, claimants of the same thing (with, obviously, only one actually being able to have legal claim).

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They both

claim to rule all of China, mainland and Formosa. Reality gets in the way.

Haven’t followed this recently, but isn’t the U.S. pledged to go to war if People’s Republic attacks Taiwan?

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no they don't both claim all of China anymore

ROC has not had since. The Jiang regime (Nationalists) did aim to reunify under KMT auspices, but that is history.

Maybe people are thinking of how, under the “one china principle” that both sides agreed to in the early 90s in their diplomatic wranglings, both would commit to unification. But the common def. of one china was so underspecified and ambiguous under a 1992 agreement that it only enabled negotiations to continue really.

Lee Teng hui, ROC president in the late 80s, did promote shared sovereignty for a while, but he increasingly undermined what China (PRC) saw as “one china” principles. In 1991 he designated cross-strait relations as “state to state,” which really pissed off the PRC.

Then as the DPP grew more powerful, and the KMT was displaced, the goal of retaking the mainland or having reunification under the ROC faded. Not to mention the PRC’s growing in power, being in nuclear club etc.

The ROC tries every year since the early 90s to get into the UN, WHO, etc. under its own auspices, but China has successfully blocked such maneuvers.

Very very recently there have been some reports that under TW’s current KMT president Ma Ying jiu, some members of the KMT regime are re-claiming ROC dominion over the entirety of China based on the constitution. But I’d write that off to diplomatic maneuvering over some highly valued maritime real-estate for now.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taiwan hasn't really claimed the name "China" since democratization

In fact since Chen Shui Bian’s presidency, the ROC has increasingly identified itself as Taiwan. The KMT, more pro-unification than the DPP, now holds the presidency, but that hasn’t really changed the fact that 75-80% Taiwanese consistently poll for maintaining the status quo (de facto independence). PRC propaganda notwithstanding, Taiwan is not part of China in any way, just as it is not part of Japan or Holland, and has many different ethnic groups among them ethnically Han. The rest, as you point out, is a common misconception underwritten by the PRC’s asymmetrical advantage in power and its position in post WWII international organizations.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The formal name of Taiwan

is the Republic of China. Taiwan identifying itself as a “Republic of Taiwan” is what causes a lot of the friction between it and the PRC, since the PRC considered Taiwan it’s own terrestrial holdings, and a formal name change to the Republic of Taiwan would, in effect, amount to separatism from the “motherland”- and we all know how the PRC feels about that, most specifically vis-a-vis Tibet (and, to a lesser degree, Inner Mongolia and even lesser, Hong Kong).

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thankfully, China (and Taiwan) aren't particularly 'breeding grounds' of baseball, like Japan and Korea are (at least, currently)

Author/blogger Emma Span compares her experiences watching the CPBL, the Chinese Professional Baseball League, to the Minor Leagues, in terms of quality of players.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well the reason China is so behind than Japan and Taiwan is that

Baseball was being played in Japan since the beginning of the 20th century, and the Japanese introduced baseball to Taiwan which was a colony of their during the 1st half of the 20th century. The Chinese baseball league was formed in 2002. Obviously there’s no baseball tradition and you are not going to have talented kids going into baseball and become stars overnight.

by secret defense on Oct 29, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taiwan doesn't have a good baseball "program".

The CBPL,which the Taiwanese baseball, for a lack of better words, sucks.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but Japan has more than 5x the population of Taiwan. There has to be some baseball talent in China’s 1.3 billion population, if baseball becomes more popular there and MLB teams spends the resources to scout and develop them.

by secret defense on Oct 29, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that goes for me doubly

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something tells me, she'd get a lot of Ks looking

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I want to marry her

and have lots of little Mets running around

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by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strain on the back?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks more like an upside down lowercase m to me.

Just saying.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps an in-depth Fanpost is in order.

On a similar note, I was reading that the manager of the Outlaws, Eri Yoshida’s team, believes that if she “got with somebody that’s a knuckleball person, she’d do a lot better.” There’s only two active knuckleballers in the MLB right now, and Dickey is one of them. We need to jump on that while we can.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The impact of boobs on ball movement.

Very scientific.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's your Japanese scouting report card say about her, BDMF?

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh...sign at all costs.

Yeah…

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Oct 29, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dickey's no catcher

Dickey gives; he doesn’t receive.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have NO idea. but heck, I'd pay to see her in a Mets' uni!

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong!

We’d pay to see her OUT of a Mets’ uni!

by Jack Str on Oct 29, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is Aki Hoshino, Japanese "bikini model"

who also appeared in a number of DVDs, of which the genre, I could not determine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoshino_Aki

Here’s a clip of the ceremonial first pitch she threw out on May 7th, 2006, for the Yokohama BayStars.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

she also has PSP games by Capsom

what the goal of the game is, I have no idea either

by secret defense on Oct 29, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure the game is quite titillating...

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 30, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ADAM LOBBY NEW DIMENSIONS

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

to fit his ego ?.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good question by Rubin

eventhough he’s lobbying for a job…..what a scum bag

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going to assume none of these guys have ready Moneyball

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by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

why would any journalist read Moneyball?

It’s only the most important mainstream book about baseball in the last 2 decades. It’s the job of a sports journalist to analyze Derek Jeter’s facial expressions and the contents of David Wright’s iPod, correct?

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 29, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

who cares about trends talked about in Moneyball, We need more articles about Jeter’s steely stares

by aparkermarshall on Oct 29, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That China question is stupid...

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

To answer the question,

Sandy doesn’t think paperwork is false hustle.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

my style

i’m not going to bumble around, i’m articulate, and i won’t sign Oliver perez again.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy beat writers,

he loves the intangibles.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

character and motivation things you can't measure

suck it monkees!!

I.M. Forme
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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

That's why

you gotta use YOUR EYES!

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck

I am in the middle of addressing that now

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

In an era where 40 home runs leads the league, wouldn’t that make a 40-HR hitter even more excellent?

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

he might’ve fumbled the words a bit, but I could see his point. I loved that he said his views on offense won’t change.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think he would want to move moutins in order to acquire pitching

But instead, he wants sluggers

not a bad idea, it worked for the 2006 Mets, but we fell short due to the lack of pitching

This will be an interesting thing to watch.

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't that make a 40-HR hitter a 30-HR hitter, though?

I’m drunk on Alderson’s simple ability to string words into complete sentences. I’m sure Jeffy hasn’t understood a word Sandy’s said.

by Jack Str on Oct 29, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sandy just said Mets are unlikely to be active in FA this year

Not a surprise

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by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

So, you want to lose now, not ten years from now?

A good philosophy.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

Instead of paying a FA $10 million (pulling this number out of my a$$), put into IFA and going overslot in the draft.

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by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

plus there’s not a whole lot to be active with on the market

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he hints that we're going to keep LOLie for one more year

sigh

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you intend to try and trade him,

why would you let everyone know you’ll definitely cut him? Then they know they just have to wait, and they can pick him up for nothing.

True, it is unlikely he’ll find takers for Ollie anyway, but it would be a bad idea for Alderson to just assume he is of no trade value whatsoever without even trying. Just because Omar couldn’t trade away of Ollie doesn’t mean he can’t.

by DaveNJ on Oct 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree...if LOLie can actually pitch and be an "asset"

well, I guess there’s nowhere to go but up(for LOLie and the Mets)…right? I just hope they can keep him in AAA when he starts stinking. and one more year of Slappy isn’t so bad, I guess…

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by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch. It'll be unlikely we're very much in the FA market this year

This, we kinda expected, though.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

i expected nothing of the sort

i want awesomeness now not three years from now

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that's not Sandy's stance, sorry.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No,

but honestly, that’s not something I’d expect a team to announce, even though I want to know.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a place to end

he’s not going to be aggressive. ..wha?

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap

“Where did or going to get your information to assess the current roster that was left to you.”

He shoudl have said “in you Mets.com articles”

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should have said Amazin' Avenue

As long as he didn’t say Metsmerized.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have it on good information

that he gets all his news from my blog. I will try to send him here when i can.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

metsmerized?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpvufrpAhls

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 29, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like INXS version

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

who new George Foster

was such a shitty rapper

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Santana never won a gold glove

what a boast!!

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"when the batter filled with terror

they call on me, Rick Aguillera!"

Kevin Mitchell sounds exactly like Dr Dre!!

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the explanation behind this song in "The Bad Guys Won" is great.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 29, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a pleasure to re-listen to

thanks

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found his Gold Standard analogy interesting

He said " just because there is less gold doesn’t make it less valuable that when gold is scare" and this was said in relation to OPS, Sugging and HRs. If there is less gold, it will be more valuable

He also highlighted the importance of OPS in Rubin’s question.

I have a feeling that he is going to go ball out for some power.

Funny, I thought he would be scouringteh earth for pitching. Then again, just look at his Oakland teams.

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

you heard him James

get working on the posts about intangibles and subjective analysis, character and motivation!!

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

frist!!

troll of the Alderson era! YESS!!

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's it? It's over?

Come on…

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I want

silly questions from Joel Sherman damnit!

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the subtext is

that marty noble had a big lunch and uh, cleared the room

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll live tweet the Burkhardt part

but I want to interview now, not three years from now!!!!

by Sam Page on Oct 29, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Trivia question alert!

Who asked Sandy Alderson the first question in his first press conference as the Met’s GM?

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burkhardt

He got Sandy to answer his question now, not 3 years from now!

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

missed it

did he ask a penetrating shake shack question

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And second,

firing Chris Carlin & bringing back Matt Yallof.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Matt Yalloff

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

third

bring back FRAN HEALY for the love of pete.

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Healy

Got ’em with the heater!

by El Duq of Hurl on Oct 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who gets the first questions at press conferences, always?

The same guy, now, and three years from now.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sickels out with Mets top 20

He actually thinks Mets system ’isn’t that bad." Middle of the pack sound right, Mr. Alderson.

Lotsa C+ guys, 4th outfielders or fringe regulars (that’s what he called Kirk, which kinda stung but realistic I guess), not quite enough can’t miss guys at the top. Some nice talents with flaws.

About what has been said here many times overall.

Nice to compare it to the Squid-emceed list at AA.

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

Sickels is getting lobbied to bump Puello to a B- and he says he’ll look again. Ah the meaningless small victories of Mets fandom.

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

better than bottom-feeder farm system

…..

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by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now's a good time to package several of these guys for someone's better prospect,

or some team’s young guy who is one year away from getting expensive, which would fit our payroll nicely.

by Jack Str on Oct 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure Mejia, Flores...

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by feslenraster on Oct 30, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's mentioned international signings multiple times now.

I like that. A lot.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

It might not mean Darvish or anything, but I like that he's thinking "outside the traditional box", at any rate.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

FML

My boss decided that 2:14 was the perfect time to go over some numbers on an estimate. Oh, well, I would have enjoyed listening to the presser. Crap.

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by CTRefJay on Oct 29, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

so if i heard him right

the plan for 2011 is to get Jason Bay 800 plate appearances?

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

he's so articulate (SWOON)

for an old white man

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

He won't overspend

on the FA market for a quick fix.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Scott Boras weeps

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

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by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

This is a bad day for the guy,

by SuperT on Oct 29, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a sucker born every minute.

For once, we’re not the suckers. That feels very good.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saved by the Bell?

For some reason that’s been on sometimes when i wake up in the morning. I guess TBS was playoff baseball station. :)

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sandy is valuing offense in the MI

Hopefully, we won’t be signing all-glove, no-bat IFAs

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

To a lesser extent

Murphy
Carter-Yes we traded for him

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't diss on the Aminal.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but those guys aren't really MI's

I mean Flores is now but he’s the only one. I think Brian means more guys like, Tejada, Valdespin, was he an IFA?, Cordono, Awful Reyes, I can’t spell any of these names but hopefully you get the picture.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tejda and Valdespin have shown themselves to be good signings though. I don’t even think those kids got big bonuses either. Tejada’s bat isn’t that bad. he makes great contact. Its just that its got no pop.

I also think that IFA with big bats don’t get signed every year.

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tejada got a big bonus

and there’s not much chance he could hit enough to play 2nd

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

idk but Schmidtx said it was 6 figures

and I’m pretty sure that’s what metsblog reported at the time too.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Six figures doesn't seem like much

especially since he will be reaching the MLB level. It also appears he will be a usefull utility MI making league min for a while. That is a bit of savings considering what Cora has been making.

I think I would do this some justice if I look up players who are comparable.

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 figures is a huge bonus

for comparison Meija signed for like 20,000. Six Figures is usually reserved for the elite IFA’s.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weren't Ynoa and F-mart

at the $4.25M and $1.4M respectively?

by Coolpapabell on Oct 29, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but there’s literally like 1-3 guys like that a year, out of hundreds of IFA’s signed. 6 figures are usually considered big bonus elite prospects.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

we have plenty of all-bat, no-glove IFAs

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by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weren't they supposed to ask fan questions?

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by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I wasted like twenty seconds on Twitter that I'll never get back.

Thanks, Mets.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

He had an interview on SNY with him

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't it Sandy Alderson's dugout that had women roaming free?

How is SNY’s Keith Hernandez going to react? Alderson should apologize.
Where are the beat writers on this?

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay! Our first pseudocontroversey in the Age of Alderson!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God we have genius analysis on the FAN to temper expectations

I am listening to a caller vent his frustration because Alderson said “ummmm” a lot.

Yeah.

by dcmetsfan on Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Omar, you know, ah, he, um, can, you know, sympathize.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, these people are special

One call on Alderson and steroids. Another on saying “um.” Another one why he didn’t explicitly say at the press conference that Castillo/Perez won’t be on the team next year.

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 29, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's pure entertainment to listen to this

Yeah, not coming right out and saying that Castillo and Perez are gone are gone is driving people nuts.

Oh, and now someone is concerned because Alderson will alienate potentail managers. Is that supposed to be a negative? The kind of guys he’d alienate are precisely the guys we don’t want.

by dcmetsfan on Oct 29, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite is the hypocrisy of needing to sell tickets

On the one hand, fans kill the Mets for making moves based on winning the back page or selling tickets. But now these morons complain that he won’t hire a manager for the purpose of selling tickets.

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 29, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's baffling

If you want a sideshow for a manager and not one best qualified to do the job, why not just hire Jimmy McMillan or the Situation?

by James Kannengieser on Oct 29, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

It’s more baffling that I listen to these idiots, but it’s oddly compelling. And makes me feel smarter than I probably am.

Want to know what sells tickets? Winning.

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I listen

sometimes in the car. or when i am cooking dinner on the transistor radio in the kitche. Steve Somers there and me here.

When i’m not listening to NPR and cringing at some of the callers.

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically they want to hear that he's going to package Castillo and Perez

For Albert Puiols, and then hire Wally Backman as manager, who will then proceed to go out and do magic tricks during the 7th inning stretch with Cliff Lee, who was just signed to a 6-year, $160 million deal.

Logic ain’t an asset to WFAN callers.

by dcmetsfan on Oct 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "excite the fanbase"

is a sell-fulfilling prophecy in a lot of ways. They want to bring in a big name to excite the fanbase(twas the logic behind “The Mejia Experiment”) & yet, if/when it fails they’ll be back to complaining & boo-hooing.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex Cora for manager!

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Oct 29, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Is he analytical, yet innovative?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he does have a sense of humor and is fun

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Pelfrey knows all about that.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they ask Aldo about a manager?

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by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

To quote Sam,

he says the “manager needs to be intellectual, intuitive, and emotional. Downplays the idea of him meddling with manager’s decisions.”

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

emo?

Elliott Smith? I guess he isn’t emo, but he sure was emotional. From what little I know of music after that guy in the Minutemen died.

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry had emo glasses, right?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I wanted to like Jerry. The glasses, the gangsta. Was just looser than Willie. Loose ended up proving ignorance must be bliss.

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also said he likes fiery managers sometimes

and he will take into consideration that this is New York and the manager can be the face of the team. He even specifically said that the one quote in Moneyball didn’t really represent all of how he thinks of managers.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problems with that

Just make those damn walls not like 20’ high.

Mike Pelfrey just missed a HR last season because of the height of the damn walls…

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the just fix the left field walls, I'll be happy

Build in several more rows of seats so that it slopes down to a reasonable height. More seats, more revenue.

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by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like em

What I don’t like is the weird out-bulge by the Modell’s thing, whatever that is. I’d prefer a less-contrived “quirky” line. But I like the high walls and having a pitcher’s park.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the dimensions, it's already a pitchers park

With the “2 damn high”® walls, it’s just overkill.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put another way

its not just a pitchers’ park, its a bad pitchers’ park.

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by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't see how you lower them, since it's already built

Would they just put an arbitrary line down the middle? That would look horrible. Building the wall out a bit by the Modell’s thing would be easier architecturally.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The LF side is easy to fix

Extend the seating area in with the new seats sloping down to a lower wall.

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by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

They already lowered the walls like 5' or so around CF

However they did that, do the same thing for the rest of the stadium. I guess you have to keep them a little higher where the seats are, for structural reasons or whatever, like you allude to, but for all of left center, center, and right center? Rip ’em down.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's personal taste I guess

I like how the LF wall looks, but not RF, so I’d rather change that. It’s just aesthetics though.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as Modells keeps giving us sponsorship money for the Mo Zone, I'm fine with it.

As soon as they don’t want to anymore, though, get that shit out of there, or make it “Kiner’s Korner”, or something.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could still have a sign out there on the new fence.

What is it anyway? A restaurant? Who gets to walk around back there? Somehow I never found this out.

by Brooklyn Tar Heels on Oct 29, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Left field, or right field?

Left field, with that glass stuff, it’s a restaurant, or some high scale food eatery. Right field, behind the wall, I think it’s just sidewalk and passageway. Never actually been to either side.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would you compare yourself to Minaya?

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by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fred Wilpon:
I’m married 53 years, and I don’t have complete autonomy.

Watch the media take that and run with it.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Oct 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate Michael Kay & Don LaGreca

“Moneyball” is not a philosophy, it’s a book. And they’re retarded. He specifically said that on-base abilities are critical. “The Moneyball philosophy is outdated because steroids aren’t in the game anymore like they were in Oakland.” Who lets these morons on the air?

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

What?

WTF?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

if no one is hitting homers, who needs men on base?

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Kay

the same guy who said the ALCS was over after Game 1

by aparkermarshall on Oct 29, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

These people on WFAN

don’t know what they’re talking about. Teams who follow the “Moneyball” philosophy & are successful:
Tampa
Texas
New York
Boston.

Good God, these guys deserve a lifetime sentence of Omar Minaya as their GM.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I never listen to WFAN

I tuned in after the conference to see what they were saying, and my conviction that the WFAN caller-base consists mostly of morons has been confirmed.

by dcmetsfan on Oct 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm just sticking around for the Alderson interview

Can’t wait to see him smack down the fat man when Officer Francesa asks about steroids, as he’s promised to do

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I stopped listening to sports radio, or political talk radio at night, in leiu of just having the fan on in the background

as my white noise. Those other two things, they just make me angry, and cause me to have trouble sleeping.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is how I got my Dad on board with Sandy Alderson

I told him that the successful teams of the last decade all had these “saber” guys in place and he was sold on Alderson.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Oct 29, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alderson looked pretty uncomfortable in the beginning of his press conference

but he was impressive on the whole. He put emphasis on all the important things for a big market team—depth, allocation of resources, development and analysis. In contrast, Omar Minaya merely preached a return to respectability. Alderson considers all sides of the equation.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Oct 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Perjaps the real test for Sandy's independence

will be if the Mets go overslot in the draft, not if Wally is hired.

The Mets GM is Sandy Alderson: A Dynasty is Born
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

DOH!!!

Perjaps Perhaps

The Mets GM is Sandy Alderson: A Dynasty is Born
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda like perjaps.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we stick with "Perjaps?"

Is there any money in a new word?

The Mets GM is Sandy Alderson: A Dynasty is Born
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, it worked for Rachael Ray (with EVOO)

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and perjaps

is a perfectly cromulent word.

"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." ~ E. B. White

by CTRefJay on Oct 29, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is EVOO?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Extra Virgin Olive Oil

"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." ~ E. B. White

by CTRefJay on Oct 29, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which, when I worked in restaurants

we simply called “virgin”

"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." ~ E. B. White

by CTRefJay on Oct 29, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have yet to meet anyone whose olive oil is not extra virgin.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 40 year old virgin, perhaps?

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

His would be extra virgin.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 30, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

cannot see an Earl Weaver guy

going for bunting Backman. Henceforth, only pitchers bunt. And Ruben Tejada, of course.

by jdon on Oct 29, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a Difference A Day Made

Twenty-four little hours
Brought the sun and the flowers
Where there used to be rain

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

also this is a random question

does anyone know if it’s possible our revenue dipped enough the last two years that we won’t have to participate in revenue sharing? It was just something I was wondering this morning, in light of all the stories about massive attendance drop offs.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

no

they’re in no way related

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Money paid as luxury tax is not distributed to small market teams.
50% of the remaining money is used to fund player benefits, 25% is used to fund baseball programs in developing countries with no high-school baseball, and 25% is put into the Industry Growth Fund (IGF)

by Michkin on Oct 29, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it's pretty much impossible.

Even though the attendance dropped, the NY revenues compared to other markets should be in a whole different level.

by Michkin on Oct 29, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

laaaammmme

so we don’t make enough to be a have this off-season but make too much to not be forced to share with the have nots.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The luxary tax fluctuates every year, doesn't it?

Are we over or under it? Haven’t we been under it the last two year or so?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're under it

but I don’t think the lt has anything to do with revenue sharing

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I saw coolpapabell mentioning it, and got easily sidetracked.

I apologize.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

and no it doesn't fluctuate

it goes up with MLB revenue, so I guess technically if MLB revenue crashed it would go down but I don’t think that’s happened in over 10 years.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luxury tax caps

2007 – $148m
2008 – $155m
2009 – $162m
2010 – $170m
2011 – $178m

(Major League Baseball uses the average annual values of contracts for players on 40-man rosters and adds benefits.)

With a payroll (using just as a proxy) around $ 130m, we are well below the cap.

by Michkin on Oct 29, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, we sure are.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool, then they can give me a 3/18 contract

I promise to be at least twice as bad as LOLlie for half the price.

The Mets GM is Sandy Alderson: A Dynasty is Born
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you left-handed, and throw less than 88 MPH Russ? hehe

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone in my AAOP is right handed, and throws less than 88 MPH

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a righty with little velocity

but I’ll throw lefty with even less velocity, and worse command and control. 88 MPH? More like 18 MPH.

The Mets GM is Sandy Alderson: A Dynasty is Born
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're hired!

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 30, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i disapprove of his lack of motivation to

Traid da core! J/k I loves it

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Oct 29, 2010 3:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

OMFG

teh Mets fanz are all over WFAN right now…….

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

The latest was...

“If I was to come up with a nickname for David Wright, it would be David ‘Not Clutch’ Wright.”

1. False.
2. Dumb.
3. Not remotely funny or clever
4. Kill yourself.

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 29, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It's good we have friends in high (low?) places.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Not only is that caller incredibly dumb, they weren’t even “clever” enough to come up with “David Wrong”?

by DaveNJ on Oct 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does someone

have an ice pick available, cause I might need it after seeing this on Metsmerized:

However, Alderson will not use sabermetrics as the end-all to running an organization. He will use every tool in his arsenal to build a winner and that includes using his own instincts and scouting reports as well. He will consider things like character because he himself is a man of integrity. This is what he’s done his entire career, and he’s not suddenly going to stop now.

So I urge my sabermetricaly inclined friends, to take a deep breath and stop fantasizing about some Cecil B. DeMille epic where Alderson will raise his mighty staff, part the Hudson River, and lead the Mets into the promised land where they can worship Bill James at the foot of Mount Saber.

It ain’t happening…

Luckily, Cannongeyser swooped in & delivered the ether to that post

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

so what do they think about the recruitment of DePodesta and Riccardi?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ricciardi issue

If one of the Mets players says he dresses like a pimp, the player will get 86’ed. Like Orlando Hudson.

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch

The author of that got, to borrow vernacular, pwned.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i personally resent that metsmatized is getting all teh linkage

when i am breaking a story right now that shatters that in importance.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Oct 29, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That ws written

by Ian O’Connor’s mom.

by wobatus on Oct 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't worry --

The future belongs to us, baby!

"It’s not just about money, it’s how you spend it."
-- Sandy Alderson

by Ownbey4Mex on Oct 29, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing that kills me

Is that they don’t understand (for the most part) that using sabermetrics is just part of the bigger picture. It’s not all about saber or just all about ‘traditional’ stats…it’s about having a complete picture drawn on a player.

Perfect example of this would be signing a guy for 2 yrs 20 mil because he is a very good player. An added bonus to this would be if this guy was good with the media, got his uniform dirty and did absolutely everything the organization asked him to do.

Anyway, just my two cents.

by metsman07 on Oct 29, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, Bayonne Mets Fan not a big fan of AA:
I’ll tell you out here,

I think your site is an absolute disgrace. All it is is one continuing comment thread.
Your arrogance sticks out like a sore thumb in the site’s overall reporting and make for a ABOMINABLE reading experience. I never saw a site that was supposed to be about baseball as mean-spirited as yours. Your mean-spirited humorless photo bit about R.A. Dickey this summer was NOT funny at all. It was demeaning.

Basically i think you’re nothing more than a website that is run by a bunch of video-game loving geeks so detached from reality you never developed any real social skills. You have any question you can email ME, I will not email you.

And learn baseball first if you want to discuss anything with me. Eric Simon says to bring your data or don’t bring anything at all (or whatever) his arrogance and ignorance sets the tone for the site much like a field manager sets the tone for his dugout.

Over time real people will know, though.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Oct 29, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he has daddy issues.

Seriously, why the hate on the Dickey photoshops?

by metsman07 on Oct 29, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He somehow thinks that Metsmerized

Is going to eradicate AA or something. Who are ‘real people’? I’m a real person, but I choose to read AA.

by metsman07 on Oct 29, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol wtf @ the dickey comment

And I’m glad he told us he would not email us. I’ve been checking every hour.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec for you, miss.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed....

I think your site is an absolute disgrace gem. All it is is one mean-continuing awesome comment thread. Your arrogance membership sticks out like a sore thumb shining beacon in the site’s overall reporting and make for a ABOMINABLE an enjoyable reading experience. I never saw a site that was supposed to be about baseball as mean-spirited awesome as yours. Your mean-spirited humorless hilarious photo bit about R.A. Dickey this summer was NOT really funny at all. It was demeaning very entertaining.

Basically i think you’re nothing more than a website that is run by a bunch of video-game loving basement dwelling geeks so detached from reality you never developed any real social skills. You have any question you can email ME, I will not email you.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

funny because

I don’t think one of us plays video games.

by Sam Page on Oct 29, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

at my age.....

AA is like a video game.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing is

the mets have just spent about 5 years ignoring ALL forms of data in their decision-making. They have also not operated with a plan of any kind, unless “younger and more athletic” somehow qualifies. I think that Alderson clearly stated that he cherishes information and opinion. What is their point?

by jdon on Oct 29, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

but, now all that will be fixed...

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Spidey.

You make everything better.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bayonne Mets Fan is also a dumb douche (and douches aren't smart to begin with), so...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Golly Beave

try to be a little nice next time and maybe he won’t be so sore with ya.

by lstorie1971 on Oct 29, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

fail

1-81
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been hoping for a pretext to use this picture.

 I give you, that comment in dog form:

I’m being unfair to the dog, though. I mean, it’s probably upset about the shirt, so at least it has a reason for being so angry.

by DaveNJ on Oct 29, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That dude is a complete dick

He constantly rants on twitter about how much AA sucks, and how awful sabermetrics are.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Oct 29, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol really

thats kind of funny, and sad.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

what dude?

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bayonne Mets Fan

He complains & boo-hoos about AA & sabermetrics all the time. To borrow a phrase from someone here, he’s like centerpede101, except he’s an obnoxious douchenozzle. I pity him more than anything.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

why do we care about that? a troll's a troll....

and a “average” Mets’ fan is an average Mets’ fan…

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

this guy is pretty much right

i do love video games

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Oct 29, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOUD NOISES!!!!!

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Oct 29, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

alriiiiiight!

You know it’s a good blog when some douche from Bayonne is calling us geeks.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Oct 29, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What's Alderson going to say--

that scouting is 12% of player eval?

You just know that man never watches a baseball game.

by Jack Str on Oct 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alderson is on with Francesa right now.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

10 minutes into the conversation

hasn’t said "you know what I’m sayin’ " once.

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he thinks fan pride is important

this man is clearly an impostor

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with Art

was that he had a shitty roster.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope Ryne Sandberg gets an interview for manager

He’s been a successful minor league manager for years, he’s smart and has a fresh perspective.

Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...

by Major on Oct 29, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

“I view the position as general manager of the Oakland … of the, excuse me, the New York Mets as really the best job available in baseball, not only now but for the foreseeable future,”

lol that made giggle

Gang green nation!

what can i say he's dwight fricking lowery

by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Oct 29, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He did.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The foreseeable future is May 1

when the Wilpons start to frustrate him by sticking their noses in the baseball side of things.

by lstorie1971 on Oct 29, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking April 15

when the Wilpons have to file their tax return

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the bullet points Sandy is laying out

“Perennial Winner”
“Iconic Franchise”
“Respected for What & How”
“Fan Pride”

I’m in love with this man.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

pause....

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best part about that second point

was when he clarified he didn’t just mean iconic among baseball teams, but all teams, worldwide.

by DaveNJ on Oct 29, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was awesome

I was in the car when I heard this and I couldn’t get over the third point. He actually values the process.

I’m gonna enjoy the next four years.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Oct 29, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always been a fan of Black Labs

but I think I’m gonna have to get a Golden Retriever so I can name it Sandy.

I’m not getting ahead of myself, am I?

I seriously need to be pinched. I’m positively giddy for the future right now.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Oct 29, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

yellow lab?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lobby yellow lab

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Black & Yellow

1-81
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can haz mascot ?

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

awwwwwwww

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

candidate 1

1-81
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

is that a book about stats ?.

if so, I approve

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

candidate 2

1-81
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too young

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depodesta puppy?

if he joins the team?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does have a look like

it’s in fear, and will say/do anything ownership tells it to do, so, why not?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Candidate 3

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like. Candidate 4

1-81
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

another one....

this one needs to be tweaked, and change “cat” for “mansion”

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like him

By wearing the glasses and reading the book, he shows he’s smart. With the Marilyn Monroe picture, he shows he likes to have fun. With the icy stare, he says “get the f*** away from me I’m working”.

by James Kannengieser on Oct 29, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lobby Candidate 4

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

nominees

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a dog

but funny nonetheless

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

hee hee

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lolwut

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol! that made me fall out of my chair

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 29, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Carter Gopher

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's one MEAN rodent...

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Win

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that Mannydog?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

last two


mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

..

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NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 29, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i like this one

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 29, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys must not know any Marines, because they'll tell you there is only one breed of dog

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by CTRefJay on Oct 30, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mettle the Donkey

Bring her(?) back.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 29, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Golden Retrievers

are amazing. I have one and she is the best dog ever.

by Gland on Oct 29, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

Bobby V. for manager, Wally B. for bench coach.

by fxcarden on Oct 29, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Alderson

was on Francesa & Kay & ran circles around both of them. I’ll try to find the links to both interviews.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Here you go

The Michael Kay interview

The Francesa interview opens in a podcast & can’t link, but here’s a link to the interviews page. It should open when you click on Alderson’s name.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Oct 29, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's saying the right thing about not punting 2011.

And, ‘if we had gotten 800 ABs out of Jason Bay… and others, we’d have been competitive.’

That strikes me as hyperbole, in that if you give the 2010 Mets 800 PAs from Albert Pujols instead of from the replacement level players they kept sending out there the team wouldn’t have cracked 90 wins, and 200 PAs more from Bay, and 600 from Beltran in one of his better years would have gotten the 2010 Mets to all of 85 wins. I’m assuming part of the sense of that is the understanding that you don’t always need superstars, and that a lot can be accomplished simply by avoiding giving so many At Bats to replacement level players.

by Jack Str on Oct 29, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

If the 2011 Mets get 6 months of Beltran like the September 2010 Beltran

we’ll be a much better team. I wish that I knew how much WAR Beltran put up that month, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was at, or over 1. If Jason Bay puts up a 4 WAR season, we’re chasing a wild card.

Then we turn the conversation to the pitching rotation and it gets depressing.

The Mets GM is Sandy Alderson: A Dynasty is Born
R.A. Dickey for Governor!

by Russ on Oct 29, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't find WAR, but I have...some other stuff!

Carlos Beltran, September/October 2010
OPS: .967
BABIP: .328
wRC: 16.3
wRAA: 6.5
wOBA: .417
wRC+: 167

I’ll keep looking and see if I can find month-by-month WAR splits anywhere.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

Let's never bunt again.

by Thomas Wachtel on Oct 30, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

you don't need the WAR split

wRAA isn’t exactly equal to batting WAR but it’s close enough. He would have been worth .about .85 WAR with the bat…considering he was worth .9 the whole season that’s pretty substantial.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)

by Gina on Oct 30, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

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