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In a move that came as news to no one (except maybe Jerry Manuel), the Mets announced on Monday they were in the market for both a new manager and a new GM. Reactions varied among the fanbase, but there was almost universal agreement that this move was a good one, or at the very least necessary.

The mood among the writers was somewhat different. If you monitored Twitter yesterday afternoon when the news broke, you would have been treated to testimonials about what great guys Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya are. Dave Lennon of Newsday praised Omar as a "class guy." Steve Popper of the Bergen Record thought "it's in bad taste to revel in people being fired." And Jon Heyman said (in separate tweets) "i really like jerry and omar, great guys, really good baseball people...i dont like the revelry...i'm seeing by some regarding dismissal of minaya and manuel."

I found the press's reactions especially odd because for a good chunk of the season, many Mets beat writers openly mocked both the on-field play and the front office moves of the team they covered (not without cause, mind you), and for weeks have spoken of both Jerry and Omar as dead men walking. And yet, when the axe actually fell, most of them articulated regret and lectured fans for expressing joy over their departure.

Star-divide

It points to a fundamental disconnect between sports scribes and the fans they (presumably) write for. It's a divide that's essential for the job. Reporters must be impartial, and while no one is truly unbiased, I think 99.9 percent of them truly try to be. Not to mention, a reporter who was a rabid fan would be insufferable. A reporter simply can't be rah-rah in the way a fan is. But when this separation becomes more pronounced at times like these, I can't help but feel condescended to. As if the reactions most fans had -- which ranged from relief to jubilation -- were simply because we're all blood-thirsty savages too stupid to know any better.

I understand why writers would feel bad about the firing of Jerry and Omar. They spend more time with these people than their own families, often in closed quarters like clubhouses and airplane cabins. They travel with them for months out of the year, have meals with them, hang out in hotel lobbies waiting for the airport shuttle together. Do this for long enough, and you develop a We're All in This Together mentality, especially when suffering through seasons like the Mets have had in recent years. (The phrase Stockholm Syndrome springs to mind.) For the same reason, many writers lamented the trade of Jeff Francoeur, even though he too was terrible at his job.

This is natural. The writers can feel any way they want. They can even believe that Jerry and Omar did a good job, for all I care (although nobody I read in the last 24 hours went quite that far). But I don't appreciate being told that I can't be happy about their departure.

I look upon my relationship with the Mets as an investor. I invest a lot -- financially and emotionally -- into that relationship. All investments come with risk, of course. But I don't think it's unreasonable to want some return on that investment--if not a championship, then steps in that direction, or some glimmer of hope that the team has some kind of plan. At bare minimum, the team should be entertaining. That is the absolute least I should expect from something that, at the end of the day, is entertainment.

Under Jerry and Omar, the Mets failed to achieve even the most modest of these goals. Were they the only reasons why? I can't say that. But they're also clearly not capable of making things better, so I have no problem demanding that they hit the road.

They might be great people, as many of the writers insist. Personally, I doubt this. Jerry had a habit of picking fights in public with players he didn't like (Ryan Church, Ramon Castro). As for Omar, he lost me during last season's surreal Adam-Rubin-is-angling-for-a-job episode, which I still can't believe actually happened. And under his watch, the Blame Beltran Brigade tried to railroad one of the best center fielders in the game for Machiavellian reasons. Whether or not Minaya was directly responsible for this, he let it happen. To me, these are not things that Good People do.

But let's say I'm wrong. Let's say Jerry and Omar are fantastic people. I don't care. As far as I'm concerned, their qualities as human beings run a distant second to their qualities as baseball people. I don't need them to watch my kids or give me a ride to work. I need them to run my favorite baseball team, and they were bad at that. If I bring my car to a garage and the mechanic screws it up even worse than it was before, do I keep bringing my car to this guy because he's such a nice fella? Or do I find someone who actually knows how to fix a car?

It'd be nice if I liked everyone associated with my favorite team, but I labor under no delusions that this would make the team any better. Mike Piazza once compared meeting Rush Limbaugh to meeting George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Gen. MacArthur, and the Pope. Whatever the exact opposite of that is, I believe that. I also believe this may be one of the dumbest things ever said by a grown human. I still love Mike Piazza the player, because he was really good at baseball for my favorite team. That's all I ask of a baseball player: be good at your job. Unless they do something truly heinous (think Michael Vick or Brett Myers), I don't care about anything else.

Jerry and Omar were not good at baseball. That's why I wanted them away from my favorite team. It's just business, guys.

Some writers played the "men are losing their jobs" card, to which I would first say, "If they didn't want to lose their jobs, they shouldn't have sucked at their jobs." And let's get serious. These men are not auto workers or miners. They got paid a lot of money to work in baseball. Considering the very small fraternity of the game, they'll find well compensated jobs somewhere; Omar might even get to stay with the Mets in some capacity, if he so chooses. If we're going to shed tears for job loss, let's do it for the millions of ordinary folks who are out of work right now. Cry a bit for people who have to worry about feeding their families, then we can sob for Jerry and Omar.

If some fans were a little over-the-top in their don't-let-the-door-hit-ya-where-the-good-lord-split-ya sentiments, can you blame them? What about the Mets over the past four seasons should lead to sympathy for anyone responsible for shaping the team? What kind of equity do Jerry or Omar have, other than some writers telling us they're nice guys?

Maybe nothing will change with the next regime. Maybe the Wilpons really do pull all the strings and every subsequent administration will just be window dressing. I can't know what will or won't happen next. I do know that under Omar and Jerry, the Mets transformed from a World Series contender to a laughing stock. Both men paid the price for it, and I refuse to feel sorry that they're gone, no matter how many times Jon Heyman tells me they're super guys who deserve better.

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Tremendous piece

Perhaps there were a few people legitimately celebrating the fact that two men lost their jobs, but overwhelmingly, the fan base simply wants hope that next year will be better-run than the last few years. This piece nails it.

by Howard Megdal on Oct 5, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

No sympathy for Minaya

First, he’s still owed another $2 million, so he’ll be getting paid regardless of whether he has a job with the Mets. Second, he was GM for six years. He had every opportunity to win a World Series in NY. He failed. It’s time for the organization to move on, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I feel bad for people who lose their jobs because of a shitty economy or because they work for incompetent supervisors or other factors outside their control. Minaya got a fair opportunity to be successful. He didn’t perform, and so he was fired. That’s life, that’s business.

by englishgrey on Oct 5, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed

you typed the words right out of my fingers.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 5, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally,

no more Los Mets.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

People are still flogging that?

May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 6, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

It’s been disproven & yet they keep going to that crap.

The sun is up & Kim Ng should be Mets GM.

by Brian. on Oct 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Oct 5, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent work

The sun is up & Kim Ng should be Mets GM.

by Brian. on Oct 5, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Great piece

Pretty much said everything I was thinking in a much better way that I could have

by Bieser's Balk on Oct 5, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

also, this exchange in your Omar/Carlos B dialgue is priceless:

Omar: Carlos, you’ve never been in charge of a multimillion-dollar operation…

Beltran: I am a multimillion-dollar operation…

Omar: …so you don’t understand how this works. I am not responsible for the Mets. I am in charge of the Mets. Being in charge is not the same thing as being responsible.

Beltran: You’re right, I don’t understand.

link

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Oct 5, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL

I had forgotten about this……thanks for the laugh

Hey !. Don't talk to my mami like that.

by fxcarden on Oct 5, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like anything else, I think a lot of the praise

from a variety of people, was hollow and basically “script” that is supposed to be read when someone is fired. Would it really speak well of whoever if, in public, they basically trashed Jerry for being such a scumbag a person (not even getting into as a manager)? On the outside, formalities. In reality, no.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 5, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree

in the sense that it would look bad for a member of the press celebrate the loss of someone’s job. I just didn’t like the attitude that came with it—that the fans should be vaguely ashamed for wanting them gone.

by Matthew Callan on Oct 5, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reporters are phonies. It is in their DNA--

they do not write for the fan, IMHO. They think they have a higher calling, a duty to tell the truth, at any cost. Later on, of course, they criticize anyone who has anything bad to say about the victims. Essentially, they have an unrealistic opinion about themselves and move easily from one self serving opinion to another. they certainly are not thinking about us.

by jdon on Oct 5, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...

then why do they report the rumour and innuendo about their job status? Why do they mock them in their articles, blogs and on twitter?

To me it seems they want to have it both ways. They want to be able to do more than “report”. They want to express opinon but when something “bad” happens they want to distance themselves from it. Like, “See it wasn’t me. I am writing he’s a nice guy. It’s the fans fault.” Which to me is total BS.

Like the Wille Randoph thing. Everyone had been screaming for months that he should have been fired ater 2007. But when he was fired after the game in California we got all sorts of righteous indignation about how Willie was fired “in the middle of the night” and how he had to endure the indigintiy of a cross country flight. Oh boo hoo. You bang the drum for a guy to be fired for months and then you are mad that it didn’t happen at a champagne brunch with ice cream cake and puppies? Please!

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by blains2000 on Oct 5, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmmm...ice cream cake and puppies.

Delicious combo!

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 5, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

this so-called higher duty to the truth is just a sham, a shield behind which they retreat when they are attacked. That is why they are such phonies. First they write that the victims have to go. Then they write up a testimonial

by jdon on Oct 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Wilpons were just trying to make up for ...

the way the mishandled Wilie’s firing. This was a “See? We ARE really nice guys” routine. Eff them.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

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by The Glider on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was kind of hoping...

That they would go the “Welcome to Dumpsville, Population: You” route.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 6, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here was what bugged me most about yesterday:

the Wontpons pretty much admitted they were ready to fire Jerry and Omar for cause at the end of last year. These men deserved, in their estimation, to be fired at that point. They decided to give them a year to turn it around. In other words, they subjected myself and a lot of others who felt omar should have been gone two years ago, to another year of misery, for no appreciable reason.

by jdon on Oct 5, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I can understand the sentiment, to a degree

The massive injury problem that plagued the team in 2009 was just about the worst thing that could have happened, because it gave both Omar and Jerry an excuse for the poor performance of that year. Definitely, some of the reasons why we ended up with such a horrible record is because of all of the injuries, but more so, they just served as a smoke screen to cover up Jerry’s poor managerial skills, and Omar’s further descent into being a bad GM. Compare our record this year, to lasts. There were no major additions or subtractions, really, so all those injuries basically served as a scapegoat for, what, five games or so, that we were actually better this season than last. This season served as a means for Jerry and Omar to do their thing, sans so many injuries. And, as we all know now, that’s basically only a few more wins.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 5, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Oct 5, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

all true

my point was they did not deserve the extra year. obviously they felt differently

by jdon on Oct 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitley not.

The difference between 2009 and 2010 was about 5 wins or so, we now know, in retrospect. Five wins, the difference between the catastrophic, injury plagued 2009, and the relatively injury-lite 2010 (all teams suffer injuries, to a degree- hell, the Phillies were without Utley for like two months, and they did fine). In retrospect, knowing it was only five measly wins or so, this should have happened a year ago, definitley.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 6, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did here...

You said the injuries were worse for their normative effect than in their player-loss effect. The secondary effects of providing Jerry and Omar with an excuse was more damaging in the long run than the actual injuries to the players. I have a feeling there’s a Yoda quote to express my happiness about this, but let’s just say that I am really happy.

Maybe for next year we should judge whatever the new management scheme with some sort of normalized excuse index. For example, we need to figure out a formula to account for the craptastic state that Omar left the payroll, maybe judging WAR by subtracting $83 million or whatever we have on the books for guys who will not add any value on the field.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 6, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the new GM gets a pass for 2011, assuming he makes some reasonable moves

in the sense that if the team wins 82 games I’m not really expecting more without some sacrifices of later years I’d rather not make.

I suppose it’s possible that Bay and Santana contribute nothing for their $36m in 2012 and 2013, but I’d really rather not think about that. (Don’t Beltran’s and Santana’s $5m each deferred start kicking in in 2014?)

by Jack Str on Oct 6, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't pay any attention to any of it

I actually like Jerry and Omar from what little I know of them. Omar had the biazarre Adam Rubin incident. Jerry did throw players under the bus (and from that old SI article catsmeat linked to earlier this year where he was kind of a jerk with Frank Thomas didn’t put him in a great light either). But neither of them seem like screamers or big-headed or humorless jackasses (this type seems rife in managing and coaching), they have generally decent personalities from interviews, etc. Not that I hate Willie Randolph either, but he just seemed like a cold fish compared to Jerry.

None of that has much to do with whether they should be fired. Omar had his moments but things have gotten worse in recent years and GM doesn’t seem his strong suit. Let him be head of scouting. Jerry just really isn’t a very good manager, and even if a good manager is lurking somehwhere in there, which i doubt, he didn’t do anything to make me think he can somehow get more out of the talent at his disposal.

I am not really celebrating, because nothing the Wilpons have done makes me think the Mets will necessarily get better replacements or improve the process. Although I suppose at least one can hope for those things now.

All these guys are well off and even if not they don’t need my sympathy and I doubt they want it. My assumption is Heyman et al are just keeping lines of communication open with anyone who comes in (see, we are nice guys, talk to us).

by wobatus on Oct 5, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This is the part where the media loves on the salt-of-the-earth hapless losers.

As long as you follow the conventional script, and do things more-or-less like the dumbasses in the media think you should, they feel like they owe you some sympathy, once you’re fired, partially due to their second-guessing and agitating.

Oh, he tried hard, and he made mostly defensible decisions, but he just didn’t have enough luck. Maybe he’ll get it right in his next stop. He may have been in JUST over his head this time.

This is a bunch of nonsense, of course. The guys who fail tend to keep on failing. Both Omar and Jerry can have success in different roles, but not in the roles they’re departing. As the writer here notes, it doesn’t matter if they’re nice guys or not.

I’m more of a football guy, but I’m a Mets fan, so this Manuel/Minaya situation matters to me. In football, I am a Broncos fan. We have a young coach, Josh McDaniels, who does what he thinks is right, regardless of what the local media has to say about it. He’s accessible and candid with the stupid hacks, but is completely not influence-able by them, or what they say. They mostly beat up on him, for that reason, but they’re starting to come around as time goes on.

The next Mets leadership hopefully will be outside-the-box thinkers who are courageous enough to ignore the Mets media, who are admittedly a lot tougher and more onerous than Woody Paige and the Denver Post bunch. It’s time for the Wilpons to hire people with vision, skill, and conviction, and let them make this thing work.

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by Ted Bartlett on Oct 5, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrific piece

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Oct 5, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

First Omar transformed the Mets into that world series contending team in the first place

The fans jubilation is proof positive of how a sports franchise can pick and choose its fall guys and how the fanbase eats it up. Let me remind you that many writers feel bad for these men for specific reasons. First, it has been speculated by many baseball insiders that Jeff Wilpon has been making personnel decisions without Minaya even being consulted for quite some time. Whether or not that is true we don’t know but the fact that some prospective GM candidates have been rumored to have expressed no interest in working for the Mets gives a bit of credence to the Jeff Wilpon stepping on Minaya’s toes.

Jerry Manuel was supposed to be an interim manager and yet the Wilpons decided to give him the job full time. The decision to retain Manuel was all about the Wilpons not wanting to spend the cash on “real” manager whilst still paying Willie Randolph. Are we really excited about the firing of two men met ownership has positioned as dead men walking since 2008? Being put in a position that doesn’t best utilize your talents is a factor on how well you do your job and Manuel is NOT a manager and Omar did well assembling this team when he seemingly had the authority to do so.

Think of how paranoid the normally docile Minaya had to be about his job to blow up at Adam Rubin? That level of paranoia doesn’t just appear out of thin air. Exactly what was Minaya supposed to do? Hold a presser and say he isn’t really running the team? This is so reminiscent of the New York Knicks. James Dolan hires the inept Isaiah Thomas and expected miracles to happen then Thomas gets fired, everyone rejoices as Donnie Walsh comes in with a plan only for Dolan to try and hire Thomas back again! It is ownership that determines the path of a franchise. No GM wins in spite of dumb owners because rich people believe they can run anything better than anyone regardless of their lack of expertise.

We feel giddy about the changes but for what? Ownership is just gonna hire the consensus “right guy” for the job and let him run the team “his” way until all the good feeling is back on their side. Manuel and Minaya being fired just means the Mets have a year or two of success on the horizon before ownership does the same crap again. These firings mean absolutely nothing. Phillips and Bobby V, Duquette and Art Howe, Minaya and Manuel. Been here and done this before and I know what comes next.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

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by Major on Oct 5, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Genuine question. If Omar made this team into a World Series contender, why couldn't he at least show some rational decision making after that?

It just makes me wonder what kind of process and thought went into how he made the team. Getting K-Rod as a closer after 2008 just smacked of his tunnel vision for me.

Look, I know he made some good moves for the Mets. Go to the 07 offseason threads, and you’ll find arguments over Minaya, with a lot of positive things said about him. But he’d lost the plot, or at least Jeff believed he’d lost the plot. There didn’t seem to any way he was going to be contributing positively as a member of the front office next year – hence the need for his firing.

by pkyankeefan on Oct 5, 2010 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This.

Everybody thought Minaya was a genius after 05 and 06 when he found all of these solid players on the cheap (Roberto Hernandez, Endy Chavez, Jose Valentin, Chris Woodward…the list goes on) and built a solid team on top of it. Since then, many of his decisions have left us all scratching our collective heads. What are we supposed to believe? That he just had really bad luck from 2007-2010? Or that he just had incredibly good luck in 05-06? I’ll choose the latter, mainly because signing older guys like Valentin, Hernandez and others to minor league deals generally doesn’t work out, considering that these guys are old and by nature, more injury prone and on the decline.

05-06 was the exception, not the rule.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 5, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Questions that might lead to an answer...

What kind of static payroll did Phillips/Duquette leave us with when Omar came in? Was it that he had a lot of wiggle room those first few years and then was saddled with the long-term effects of the big deals of 05/06? I have no idea; just throwing something out there because it also strikes me as odd that someone could go south so quickly.

Also, maybe it was that he got further removed from the player development process and didn’t have good/trustworthy/competent people below him or could not delegate effectively, and so while he was still familiar with who was out there and undervalued in 05/06, he lost contact with this the longer he was forced to sit in an office in NY and deal with GM things. This one is also a possible explanation for his prior rep as a player assessment guy, which I have been a strong critic of, and for why that apparent skill disappeared in the past few (not to mention that in his interview right after being fired, Omar talked about how he was excited to not work in an office anymore). Could it be that he really was just a bad delegator and/or had a crappy scouting system beneath him?

by MookieTheCat on Oct 5, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Cot's,

the 04 payroll was at $96 million, which was down from a Phillips fueled $117 million payroll the year before. The initial Omar payrolls(05 & 06) were $101 million, but they progressively rose as time went on. I’m assuming Minaya backloaded a lot of his deals.

The sun is up & Kim Ng should be Mets GM.

by Brian. on Oct 5, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah hah...

I am certainly no expert on Mets payrolls (once again this was at the time when I worked too much to care) but it seems to my untrained eye that it would be fairly easy to look good with that much extra cash and backloaded deals. There were a few good cheap signings in there, but still.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 5, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Agree With A Lot of This

There is this history with the Mets since Jeffie became involved with day to day operations of the team. A few good years where the GM has authority, an off year and all of the sudden Jeffie becomes deeply involved. He is a slightly smarter Jim Dolan (thanks to his last Isiah move I have decided to become a Nets fan).

I think Omar had a mixed reign as GM making some excellent moves including bringing in Beltran, Pedro, Santana, Delgado, RA Dickey, Endy Chavez. He also vastly improved the farm system despite the Mets paying attention to the slotting system. His main weakness was becoming enamored with his favorite, older players and giving them too long contracts. Think 2 yrs to El Duque and Moises Alou, 4 yrs to Luis Castillo, 3 yrs to Ollie Perez.

It has been unclear to me whether or not Omar had real day to day control anymore. All the reporters, who are closer to the team than me, have been hinting Jeffie is really making the decisions.

Omar clearly needed to go but I am not convinced he was the real problem with the team and I agree that this will be a pattern as long as the Wilpons own the team.

by millsy on Oct 5, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the best thing I've read on the firing of Jerry/Omar...

I don’t think I’ve ever rec’d a front page piece before, unless it’s been bumped from FanPosts, but you got one here. I thought in the first few sentences that this was going to be a typical “they were nice guys” puff piece, but then you switched it up and expressed what I think a vast majority of Mets fans are thinking right now. Really solid job.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 5, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Very nice, Matt

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by isles732 on Oct 5, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

It's just business

bingo, very nice piece.

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 5, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

It is, indeed

This is why I probably had less sympathy for Omar on the airplane episode than I would normally have. It did make me feel a little guilty that I approved of it happening to him. I don’t like that happening to non-asshole people.

by pkyankeefan on Oct 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, of all people, i dont really mind that it happened to Omar

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by NetsMets4Life on Oct 5, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very poorly written, sorry. The naivete just washed everything else away.

“Reporters must be impartial, and while no one is truly unbiased, I think 99.9 percent of them truly try to be.” The vast majority of the news we see, hear, and read, is created in the newsroom. I was privy to how “news” was put together for several years, and in the case of local teevee (for the sake of brief examples), the nature of each story was routinely decided in advance: Tuition increased by 3% this year? Go find a student who is hurt by the increase! Habitat for Humanity is building half a dozen houses in impoverished Buffalo? Go find a couple of approving residents to interview! None of this was done other than openly, and no one involved thought they were only more than very occasionally discovering or telling “the truth”.

Reporters must be impartial? This is as realistic as “businessmen must be honest.” Please.

As for Minaya and Manuel, and the sickening job they did turning the franchise I root for into a joke (or keeping the joke ongoing, as you like), do fuck off, you incompetent dullards, you mindless hacks. I have no sympathy for well-paid people who are rotten at their jobs and give no evidence at all of wanting to improve.

by Jack Str on Oct 5, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed, that paragraph is terrible

Fortunately, it’s also unnecessary to the substance of the argument here, most of the rest of which is right on.

by anonymous on Oct 6, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

This may be the best analogy ever written....
As far as I’m concerned, their qualities as human beings run a distant second to their qualities as baseball people. I don’t need them to watch my kids or give me a ride to work. I need them to run my favorite baseball team, and they were bad at that. If I bring my car to a garage and the mechanic screws it up even worse than it was before, do I keep bringing my car to this guy because he’s such a nice fella? Or do I find someone who actually knows how to fix a car?

Outstanding work.

Hey !. Don't talk to my mami like that.

by fxcarden on Oct 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Clearly

Fred and Jeff would continue going to the bad mechanic because he’s like Fred’s third son. Even if Omar the bad mechanic brought home an evil stepbrother Tony Bernazard.

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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 5, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...In my mind...

That was what got me really interested in this article. As soon as I hit that “I don’t need them to watch my kids” line I was sold.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems AA has finally found a creative writer

Dear Sucker I Mean Met Fan
Thank you for your support if you thought this season was tough to swallow wait til next year. Thanks, The Pons.
-TheKid08

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 5, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another great article, Matthew.

Can we just go ahead and make this guy a writer, already?

May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 5, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like they did just that.

What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?

by StorkFan on Oct 6, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work guy....

Impressing this ornery bunch with an article on a subject matter likely to piss everyone off deserves a hat tip.

by MookieTheCat on Oct 6, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

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