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Willets Point Businesses Being Relocated

NY1 has some video of the remaining businesses in Willets Point preparing for relocation as part of the plan to turn the area outside Citi Field from a morass of chop shops and potholes into a commercial and residential destination. Chris McShane and I have long been proponents of the plans to redevelop Willets Points, and while we're probably still a few years away from seeing anything worthwhile, we appear to be one step closer to having an excuse to stick around Corona after a Mets game.

Embedded video is below; check the original at NY1 (h/t Mets Police).

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Because before reading this I was going to post something early identical….

I stopped caring about these businesses when one of them tried to sell my dad a stolen bumper to replace our stolen bumper. We believe to this day it was the same bumper.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

*nearly

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait--they stole the bumper OFF your car

only to track you down and sell it back to you?

Actually, that’s some pretty fair chutzpah right there.

by Jack Str on Nov 18, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Partly true.

We had our bumper stolen. At that time my dad had a Caprice, which was what all the cabs were so there was a strong market for hot parts to sell to cabbies for cash. We were driving to a game and an enterprising chop-shop owner noticed our missing bumper tried to sell us a bumper that by context was more than likely stolen. With no evidence to back this up, we still believe it was the same bumper.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 18, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Greenied

What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?

by StorkFan on Nov 16, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The sooner this happens, the better

"We have gotten to the point where not only big market clubs are going over slot, but small market clubs are going over slot, and they see it as a competitive advantage. I don’t think we can be left behind in that regard. I think that we've got to be open minded about it, and we intend to be." - Sandy Alderson

by Russ on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

When Willets Point is developed

I hope that the architecture echoes Citi Field so that it blends in with the new neighborhood.

"We have gotten to the point where not only big market clubs are going over slot, but small market clubs are going over slot, and they see it as a competitive advantage. I don’t think we can be left behind in that regard. I think that we've got to be open minded about it, and we intend to be." - Sandy Alderson

by Russ on Nov 16, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That would be nice.

Are the ’Pons involved in this?

"There’s talent in these here waters. Alderson just has to clear up the algae around the edges." - RJ Anderson / Fangraphs

by Dandy Salderson on Nov 16, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Hooray for repurposing.

by JoshNY on Nov 16, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Total urban chic...

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

If they replace the businesses with something in the spirit of Citi Field...

Wouldn’t they just put up the Ebbets projects?

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They would if Robert Moses was still alive

"We have gotten to the point where not only big market clubs are going over slot, but small market clubs are going over slot, and they see it as a competitive advantage. I don’t think we can be left behind in that regard. I think that we've got to be open minded about it, and we intend to be." - Sandy Alderson

by Russ on Nov 16, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

LaGuardia is crowded too often, so another airport should be installed.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 17, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Only if its in a neighborhood

because we also need more highways.

"We have gotten to the point where not only big market clubs are going over slot, but small market clubs are going over slot, and they see it as a competitive advantage. I don’t think we can be left behind in that regard. I think that we've got to be open minded about it, and we intend to be." - Sandy Alderson

by Russ on Nov 17, 2010 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Combine the two: A plane highway!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 17, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Idea, President Eisenhower!

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by meigs1414 on Nov 17, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

According to Wiki

Willets Point has one resident. I wonder if that includes when KRod was locked in the Citi prison.

"There’s talent in these here waters. Alderson just has to clear up the algae around the edges." - RJ Anderson / Fangraphs

by Dandy Salderson on Nov 16, 2010 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Could be.

Here’s an actual video with Willets Point’s lone resident.

by Eric Simon on Nov 16, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that guy

Gotta respect a hold out.

I wonder what kind of “spices” they sell at that House of Spices spot?

"There’s talent in these here waters. Alderson just has to clear up the algae around the edges." - RJ Anderson / Fangraphs

by Dandy Salderson on Nov 16, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Indian spices

wholesale business

What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?

by StorkFan on Nov 16, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like friggin Centralia, PA (creepiest place in the U.S.)

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 17, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Resendential?

I wonder if I could talk my husband into relocating there when I retire in a few years?

I don’t need much. Just a small place to call home – and enough money to buy season tickets to Citi then when the park will be in my back yard.

by MetsFan4Decades on Nov 16, 2010 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

that would be freaking sweet

hopefully it will line up with the time frame that I want to move back to New York. Now I just have to convince my fiancee (wife by then) that Queens isn’t on Long Island, even though it technically is.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Nov 16, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

So is Brooklyn...

If you’re getting technical.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone gotten
Matthews’s take on this? [/sarcasm]

Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!? Right here: http://myentireteam.wordpress.com/

by CharlieH on Nov 16, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

FAIL!!!!

That should read “WALLY Matthews’s take…”

[facepalm]

Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!? Right here: http://myentireteam.wordpress.com/

by CharlieH on Nov 16, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Bring in the Islanders.

Forget this whole Lighthouse project and build the Isles a shiny new arena at Willets Point.

by TMS on Nov 16, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

it maybe a 2nd NY soccer team around the area.
@NYPost_Lewis: [Commissioner of (MLS) Major League Soccer, Don] Garber re: NYC expansion: “We’re obviously very focused on our 20th team in New York. We’ve been meeting with the city, the Wilpon family..”

by nelsonc on Nov 16, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoever the Canadian Jerry Manuel is...

Is sitting by the phone.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Is The Canadian Jerry Manuel

anything like The American Mr. Hockey?

What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?

by StorkFan on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm guessing yes

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 18, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck and yes

I want this desperately. Seeing as the alternative is probably them becoming the next Winnipeg Jets.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

"The lesson behind Moneyball is that if you are clever in your use of resources, you can gain power beyond your station. It is not, never has been, and never will be, that 'computer models' should take over the world." - Graham

Check ze tweets

by Thomas Wachtel on Nov 16, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That's all we need....

Two crappy teams there.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Businesses or no businesses

The Flushing Bay smell will still be there.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 16, 2010 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

But I'd love to see the Islanders brought there.

….or for the Jets to have their own stadium….

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Nov 16, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Great news...I was wondering a few weeks back if there was anything new

going on. It’d really be awesome to be able to hang near Citi Field before and after games.

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by Steve Schreiber on Nov 16, 2010 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

In principle...

… this kinda sucks. Eminent domain for profit, essentially.

That said, I kinda look forward to postgame drinks in PaysonVille.

by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Nov 16, 2010 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

Well

most of the business owners are being relocated to College Point, which is a lot nicer than WIllets Point. It’s not as if they’re being tossed out on their arses.

by Eric Simon on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps true.

But all those years of developing relationships with the local constables have gone to waste. I mean, who is going to reimburse all those donations?

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Elmer Dessens is crying, somewhere.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 17, 2010 2:20 AM EST reply actions  

The speaker in the video is extremely careful to avoid mentioning it, but

If this involves the government taking land because it presumes (even through some of its citizenry) to know best how the area should be developed, I’m fully prepared to hate it. There’s simply no way the government should have condemnatory powers (and citizens should have their property taken, even if there’s the veil of “just compensation” simply because it feels an area is “blighted”. Seriously—the government is RELOCATING people and businesses because it knows best? That’s obscene.

This was a common strategy in the 50s and 60s to destroy vital, African-American neighborhoods by ramming the new highways through them. It’s not that the Willets Point redevelopment plan might not very well result in a prettier neighborhood, it’s just that the overall price is too high, and the infringement on civil liberties grotesque given that nothing other than aesthetics and profits are at stake.

I realize this is a political comment, but the article itself is highly politically charged even though that aspect is largely hidden.

by Jack Str on Nov 18, 2010 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

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