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Around SBN: Now They've Screwed Spurs, UEFA Willing To Review Rule

Opinion piece by Ted Berg

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"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Dec 15, 2010 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

I could get behind it.

Pedro has lost his heat, but he can still outwit. And he always brings the entertainment.

by SuperT on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Did I fall asleep and wake up in 1999?

If so, I am going to get so laid my senior year of college. Oh wait, damn.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Dec 15, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

This.

"The '69 Mets will live on forever. But do you think anybody cares about Ron Swoboda's wife and kids? Not me! And I assume not Ron Swoboda" --Homer Simpson

by isles732 on Dec 15, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd be a better swingman option

than anyone in house since Taki left. Pedro’s a guy I’d pony up the bucks to actually go see too.

by Wright of passage on Dec 15, 2010 2:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

hey, on a cheap one year deal,

for what will probably be a lost season, absolutely. i love pedro. the “bridge year” thing has to have its upside too — namely, the ability to throw pedro out there. Pedro Martinez!

by Pack Bringley on Dec 15, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

How bout no.

Omar would say yes, tho.
Ted Berg: sign Pedro
Omar: Did he play for the expos.
Ted Berg: yes…
Omar: we’ll sign him!

by JoeBighead on Dec 15, 2010 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

This seems to be a corollary of fucking logic!

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Dec 15, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

This about sums up your position

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_rplU24Kso

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Dec 15, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea

outside of 2008, Pedro’s always been a very good pitcher, even with the Mets. Worth a try on a 1 year, $4 million deal

by METSMETSMETS on Dec 15, 2010 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

maybe less

but a 1 year deal is something the Mets should offer.

by METSMETSMETS on Dec 15, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

how about a 1 year deal where Pedro pays US

1 meeeeellion dollars to make up for Omar overpaying for him.

by fxcarden on Dec 15, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

As far as overpays go

Pedro’s really wasn’t too bad.

In general I think Omar doesn’t get enough credit. He put our farm system in a BETTER position by getting us really really competitive in the Latin market. He put together some key pieces that improved the Mets drastically, and I think the Beltran contract was a success, the Wagner one was solid and the Pedro one was not good but not crippling. He had strengths in Major League scouting. Clearly, running a team as a whole wasnt his thing, but he did a hell of a better job than a lot of his predecessors (Jim Duquette shudders)

by METSMETSMETS on Dec 15, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to sort of agree with both of you here.

He definitely ran the team into the ground towards the end with his overpays and with the avoidance of overslotting but at the same time, look at the team and the system in 2004 when Jim Duquette was demoted. Aside from Reyes and Wright, that was a very bare minor league system and the big league team was relying on an injury plagued Piazza/Floyd combo in the lineup and a washed up Al Leiter/Tom Glavine combo leading the rotation. We may have some poor monetary commitments in LOLlie and Castillo among others, but at least we have some star players and a farm system that isn’t totally barren (when Ty Wigginton is your 3rd best offensive player and best minor league callup…come on).

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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 16, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Same as for agreement, but I don't buy that Omar did much at all positive.

But a few points about Omar. First, “if better than Duquette” is the best you can say for someone, that’s pretty bad. Second, while Omar did have a few successes, I fail to see how a few points made can be substantiated. Omar had little more success with Latin America than a number of teams, and the minors show it. There are a few decent prospects, but very few showstoppers and very little intrinsic depth (good minor league FA signings to provide a backstop against injury). He loaded the team and system with C-List fringe players who on other teams would be in AAA (or lower), or maybe a last-on-the-depth chart defensive replacement. We all know that a number of his big FA signings were terrible, and even if you can point to Beltran as a good signing, so what? Good signings over 5 years that can be counted on your fingers is to me a residue of doing stuff, rather than doing good stuff. Accordingly, some of the decent prospects that did come through the system had to be misused to plug holes, slowing or halting their development. There was no organizational plan for advancement, scouting, and signing.

I guess I just don’t buy the “air of legitimacy” argument. You know how you become legit? Win the division a couple of years in a row. You know how you lose that legitimacy quickly, no matter what names are on your roster? Win 70.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Dec 16, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm all for hiring Pedro Martinez as a pitching instructor.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Or at least as a ST instructor.

Like what they did with Ricky Henderson a few years back.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Dec 16, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Or give him twenty bucks

to call up Razor Shines and remind him that he’s still fired.

"It’s not just about money, it’s how you spend it."
-- Sandy Alderson

by Ownbey4Mex on Dec 16, 2010 5:51 AM EST up reply actions  

sign him to escort Omar back home

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Dec 16, 2010 6:49 AM EST up reply actions  

He'd send him straight into traffic.

“Nah Omar, you can beat that SUV. He’s at least 6 blocks away.”
“He’s right at the corner.”
“Who ya gonna believe, me or your lyin’ eyes?”

I am willing to wait to build a world class franchise (h/t to millsy)

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 16, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

we might as well sign Jamie Moyer too

The P-Man is ancient and well past his usefulness, I will always respect the borderline HOFER, but let’s move on to the New Era already.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Dec 16, 2010 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

I'm all for signing Jamie Moyer next season, when he's back from TJ

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

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