Separate the Wheat from the Chass
These days, it's pretty easy to pick on Murray Chass. And it's fun, too, so why not?
For the last 2+ years, the former New York Times sports scribe has been reduced to plying his trade as a blogger, on his own site, no less (insert mother's basement joke here). In that time, he's ruffled many a feather with his cranky, self-serving, and often unsourced accusations. Like his curious and continued vendetta against Mike Piazza for alleged steroid use only he seems to have "evidence" for (said evidence being him constantly writing about it) or care about.
Most recently, Chass got into some hot water when he wrote that SI.com's Tom Verducci hadn't voted for Marvin Miller for the Hall of Fame. The piece was only slightly inaccurate, in that Verducci had actually voted for Miller. Verducci proceeded to verbally eviscerate Chass for publishing such poorly sourced rumor as fact. Chass responded by saying this was the first time in his illustrious career he'd committed such an error, which drew many well deserved and incredulous snorts.
Over the weekend, as many of us were sipping egg nog and furiously hunting down gift receipts, Chass decided to pen a column about the state of the Mets. This time, he decided to keep his rumors more general and less likely to attract vitriolic response--but they remained just as worthless.
The premise of the column is the same as ones you've no doubt read many times already: The Mets haven't done anything this off-season and are unlikely to do much more, and this is bad. Why is this bad? Because it means more empty seats in CitiField next season. These columns rarely (if ever) state what the Mets should do, and some even admit that overspending for free agents when next season holds little promise might not be a good idea. But ultimately, they argue that the Mets should do something.While still GM of the Mets, Omar Minaya said that New York is "not a market where you can go young." No doubt he was thinking of the negative press coverage that would result from an offseason such as the one the Mets are currently enjoying (although "enjoying" is an innacurate word). New GM Sandy Alderson has been put into the unenviable position of laying low this offseason in order to not do any more damage to an already broken payroll and farm system, while at the same time insisting, if only for appearances' sake, "hey, we could compete next year, ya never know!"
Columns like Chass's are to be expected in this environment, and if Alderson's long-term strategy leads to success down the road, no one will remember these pieces. (Or, if you're not feeling magnanimous, maybe we'll all remember them to throw such words back in the authors' faces.)
I haven't responded to most of these kinds of columns because most of them are just expressions of opinions. I'm on board with Alderson's approach, even if it means a lean 2010, but I could be proven wrong just as easily as those critical of the new Mets GM. Only time will tell.
What distinguishes Chass's piece is its willingness to print supposition as fact, while making sure to couch it in the language of plausible deniability. Oh, and it's also dead wrong about more than a few things. Here's a choice chunk about the Wilpons, particularly Jeff:
The Mets have a new general manager, Sandy Alderson, and a new manager, Terry Collins, but the reality is they won’t get headed in the right direction until the owner, Fred Wilpon, fires the owner’s son, the chief operating officer, Jeff Wilpon.
Jeff Wilpon is typical of a wealthy owner’s son, in his position by birthright, not by merit. Unfortunately for the Mets and their fans, Jeff Wilpon is more like Peter Angelos’ sons in Baltimore than like Carl Pohlad’s sons in Minnesota.
The Wilpons say they don’t interfere with the Mets’ baseball operation, but they would be hard-pressed to find anyone in baseball who believes that claim. The man who knows best, Minaya, has repeatedly declined to discuss that aspect of the Mets’ operation. The Mets owe him more than $2 million, and he knows better than to jeopardize his financial future.
Fred Wilpon has often used the phrase "skill set," which can’t be applied to Jeff and baseball operations. I recall that a year ago I criticized Minaya for not negotiating with free agents on parallel tracks, thereby putting himself in position to sign one free agent if he failed to get the other.
It’s a routine strategy in baseball in the competitive pursuit of free agents, but Minaya stuck to one free agent at a time, very likely losing out on one or two worthy free agents. I suspect it was not Minaya’s idea to work that way but Jeff Wilpon’s. As with other issues, Minaya has refused to address the Mets’ failed strategy.
Alderson, Minaya’s successor, apparently won’t be in position to discuss the team’s off-season strategy because the Mets don’t appear to have one. Don’t ask, don’t tell seems to apply more to the Mets now than it does to the United States military.
Jeff Wilpon needs to fired, says Chass. Why? Because he "suspects" he is responsible for the team's dysfunctional operations. Because, according to him, no one in baseball "believes the claim" that he doesn't interfere with the running of the Mets. It'd be nice to know why you think that, Murray. Even a quote from an Unnamed Source would do. But we don't get that, or anything more substantial than insinuation and innuendo.
For all I know, Jeff Wilpon is the root of the Mets' evil. If you're going to say he is, though, you should produce some evidence to back it up. Chass's sole exhibit in The People vs. Jeff Wilpon is the fact that Minaya won't express an opinion about him one way or another. If someone's silence indicated another person's guilt, we'd all be in jail.
Personally, like many Mets fans, I've suspected the Wilpons have had their hands in the Mets' business too much for the team's good. I also suspect that this will largely end now that Alderson is in the GM chair, because I agree with what Jason Fry wrote at Faith and Fear in Flushing: "Sandy Alderson is too old, too well-paid and has too many opportunities available to him to take shit from Jeff Wilpon." I honestly don't think of a man of Alderson's reputation and age would have taken the job if he didn't expect full autonomy.
That is total supposition on my part--just like Chass's assertions. The difference between Chass and me is I don't confuse my guesses with facts.
Chass also criticizes Alderson for not discussing the team's off-season strategy. If you ask me, one of the Mets' biggest problems in recent years was a front office full of leaks. Every time Minaya sneezed, the press knew to offer a gesundheit. Many internal disputes came to light that never should have, such as the disagreement over Carlos Beltran's knee surgery and the idiotic Walter Reed Hospital visit kerfuffle. A healthy organization does not let squabbles like this become back page fodder. If preventing such things from becoming public also means the team doesn't telegraph every single move it wants to make, that's probably a good thing.
The magic phrase around the Mets this winter is "payroll flexibility." The Mets, they say, don’t have it so they can’t sign any expensive players or even inexpensive players based on the market rate.
Mets’ officials use the phrase so routinely that beat reporters have adopted it and use it to justify why the Mets are making no attempt to improve the team.
"We don’t have a lot of payroll flexibility so we’ve had to be somewhat realistic this off-season," Alderson said in a telephone interview this week.
That statement doesn’t require a talented translator. Put simply, don’t expect the Mets to spend any money this winter.
Oh Murray, you're much too clever for Mr. Alderson! You've solved the mystery! "The Mets are saying they don't have the money to spend on free agents, but what they're really telling you is that they don't have the money to spend on free agents." I bet he whipped off his David Caruso sunglasses after that brilliant deduction. ("YEAHHHHHHHHH!")
Amazingly, Chass tries to spin Payroll Flexibility--which represents a rare instance of a front office being honest with its fans--as some kind of huge snow job. Remember the days when the Mets would feign interest in free agents like Alex Rodriguez and it would turn out later it was all a ruse? Would that be preferable?
When observers talk about the Mets’ lack of payroll flexibility, they point to the team’s "bad contracts," particularly the one that will pay [Oliver] Perez $12 million and the one that will pay [Luis] Castillo $6 million next season.
Most competitive teams however, wind up with contracts they wish they hadn’t given players. It’s part of the price of doing business; it’s part of the price of competing. It should not be part of the excuse for not trying to improve the team.
Actually, Murray, the payroll is a very good excuse. If your payroll is taken up by wastes of space like Perez and Castillo, who can not be unloaded at any price, there's nothing to be done about it. Saying the Mets' payroll is no excuse for not adding players is like saying my height is no excuse for not being able to dunk a basketball.
Fred Wilpon has never liked spending the kind of money he has had to spend to compete with the Yankees in New York. When Nelson Doubleday was Wilpon’s partner in the Mets’ ownership, it was Doubleday who wanted to spend money on good players (see Mike Piazza).
Sometimes you see a pile of stupid so huge and so defiant of any rational fact, you almost have to admire it. This is such a time.
In 2002, the last year Nelson Doubleday co-owned the team, the Mets' payroll was $94.6 million. The next year, with Wilpon having the purse strings to himself for the first time, it ballooned over $117 million. It has been above $100 million every year since 2005. It was close to $140 million in 2010, and will be so again in 2011. During Wilpon's time alone at the top, the Mets have never been lower than fourth-highest payroll in all of baseball.
Chass says "see Mike Piazza." I'd tell him to see Tom Glavine, Pedro Martinez, Carlos Beltran, Carlos Delgado, Johan Santana, Frankie Rodriguez, and Jason Bay--top flight players with huge contracts either signed as free agents or traded for since Fred Wilpon has been sole owner of the Mets.
Signing big names to big money has never been a problem for Wilpon. Spending money wisely has. Conflating the spending of money with the long-term good of the team is exactly what got the Mets into Blow It Up and Start Over Mode to begin with.
What should the Mets have done, according to Chass? He doesn't quite say. Although the fact that he puts pitchers like Jon Garland, Jake Westbrook, and Vicente Padilla in with "the best of the market" makes me glad he's not running the team. I can see him handing out a six-year, $140 million contract to Carl Pavano.
The Perez and Castillo contracts will be up next season. So will the contracts of Beltran ($18.5 million), Rodriguez ($11.5 million) and Jose Reyes ($11 million), and the Mets’ apologists point to the greater freedom the team will have to sign players to big contracts.
By then, however, another season will have been lost. In addition, the Mets will be asking their fans to pay to watch a team that they themselves don’t think enough of to spend to improve it.
I love Chass's special vocabulary. Apparently pointing out a fact about the Mets' payroll makes you an "apologist," as opposed to "aware of reality." His ominous note about the team not spending to improve itself before 2012 also assumes that there will be absolutely zero additions to the team not only this offseason, but the next one as well. If Chass has such powers of prognostication, maybe he should put them to more humanitarian use. Like, say, predicting when he'll stop plaguing us with his writing.
Look: I don't hold out a huge amount of hope for the Mets in 2011, either. And Alderson's power to improve the team, even long term, is not guaranteed. But I prefer to wait until people fail before I judge their efforts--or at least until they're on the job more than two months.
If Chass disagrees, he's entitled to that opinion. And that's all it is: an opinion, no more valid than mine, and no more closer to being fact, his delusions to the contrary notwithstanding.
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I'm pretty sure
that Murray Chass’s opinion is less valid than yours.
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
by Kevin H on Dec 27, 2010 12:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
He is the ultimate old man sitting in a rocking chair on his porch
Yelling at the kids to get off his baseball diamond and complaining about them and their newfangled fact-checking
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Dec 27, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
you kids today and your expectations of quality!
back in my day, we were allowed to print utter horseshit and get away with it. now people expect some sort of reporting standards. hogwash!
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
by kendynamo on Dec 27, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
You are wrong here
Chass is just like many baseball geeks, lives at home in his mom’s basement, cutting her lawn with an old fashioned push mower, brylcreem’s his comb over, eats his corned wheat every day and goes to bed at 9pm after saying his prayers and patting his dog.
Only difference is; his mom died in 1978, her bones still occupy the master bedroom, his dog’s legs don’t work and he keeps telling kids to “get your fat ass into my bedroom!” and asks the paper boy “do you sell any of the clothes you wore in the summer?”
Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."
by scott from peekskill on Dec 27, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Does he look like this?

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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 28, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, yup, thats the dude
“You kids get off ma lawn! And inta ma bed!”
by ScottfromPeekskill on Dec 28, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
This is so goofy
My understanding was that it was Doubleday who was always reluctant to spend on free agents, when he weighed in on the matter at all. He mainly deferred to the Wilpons on baseball decisions…
Everything I’m reading tells me that Doubleday was brought in by the Wipons as something of a money man – Wilpon wanted to buy the Mets but didn’t have the financing so he recruited Doubleday to help him. Doubleday, thinking he was going to die of liver disease, tried to sell an 80% stake in the team for $400 million to Cablevision to shield his kids from enormous capital gains taxes upon his death (OMG James Dolan almost owned the Mets – gyah!). Wilpon (who initially only owned 5% of the team) blocked that, wanting to retain control of the Mets, and managed to acquire a 50% stake in the team from Bertlesmann A.G., which owned a significant portion of Doubleday publishing and thus the Mets.
This soured the relationship permanently between Doubleday and Wilpon, and led to the feud over whether to build a new stadium, or renovate Shea, which was their chief difference, as far as I know.
The Capital Gains Taxes
would have been enormous because Doubleday bought the Mets for $21,5 million. So, assuming, based on that 80% – $400 million figure, that the value of the Mets at the time Doubleday thought he was going to die was $500 million, leaving his kids on the hook for $478.5 million in capital gains taxes, for a non-liquid asset (the Mets) that they would be forced to sell at a below-market rate in order to pay for that tax burden. The long-term capital gains tax rate in 1998, when this happened, was 39.6%, so his kids would have been on the hook for around $189.5 million.
well maybe that's doubleday's kid's fault for not being a bigger success
i mean please, who doesnt have 200 mil laying around to pay piddling taxes with. this doubleday kid sounds like he needs a couple lessons in living luxuriously if you ask me.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Chass
This is a site for baseball columns, not for baseball blogs.
Sure, dude, whatever you say.
"There’s talent in these here waters. Alderson just has to clear up the algae around the edges." - RJ Anderson / Fangraphs
by Dandy Salderson on Dec 27, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions
Here is the link
Pure comedy.
"There’s talent in these here waters. Alderson just has to clear up the algae around the edges." - RJ Anderson / Fangraphs
by Dandy Salderson on Dec 27, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
It's not a blog!
Now get off my lawn, whippersnapper.
I am willing to wait to build a world class franchise (h/t to millsy)
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 27, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
chass is a riot
his pablum is so pitiful now, you can’t read it without getting a chuckle.
hey i wonder if the NYT used payroll inflexibility as an excuse for firing dead (award winning) weight like Chass. I’m sure Times shareholders were like, no dividends because of over leverage and lack of capitalization? well we ALL know that’s just an excuse newspapers use for not wanting to compete. they should let journalists run their business since they all know better.
seriously, Chass is one amusing buffoon.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
jeff wilpon is the root of all mets evil proof
jeff has the most mets power → Jeff = Mets (P)
money is power → $ = P
money is the root of all evil → $ = (evil)^0.5 = P
therefore, Jeff = Mets (root of all evil) which can be re-arranged as Jeff = root of all Mets evil
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
and stevie wonder is god
god is love, love is blind, ergo…
old richard jeni joke.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
I love how everyone is so concerned about empty seats at Citi
and lack of advertising money at SNY. Even ignoring the likelihood that throwing some money around just to show you can won’t change that, why shouldn’t the Mets be allowed to follow that path if they decide that’s the best way to regroup and build? They’re the ones who are going to take a hit financially if people don’t show up, and if they’re OK with it, there’s no reason sportwsriters/talk -show hosts shouldn’t be.
This.
Although, it’ll truly be a shame when we see all of those empty seats come July/August 2011. I am personally going to miss all of those sell-out games from August 2009 and 2010!
The expensive signings of Frankie Rodriguez, Oliver Perez and Jason Bay really brought in the fans those summers!
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 27, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Damn.
summers.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 27, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
seems everybody i talk baseball with these days takes Mr. Chass' position
“they’re not spending, they’re going to suck, nobody is going to go, same old Mets.”
i keep telling these people to STFU and go see the Cyclones. then they get disappointed when they hear Wally Backman won’t be the manager.
guess i’m just a ray of sunshine.
"they're still shitty"
yes
which I think he claimed he had seen in the shower or locker room or something.
I have really bad bacne
Dont do roids either, though I have to say that if I was an MLBer pre-testing I would have happily bathed in the cream and the clear nightly.
"There’s talent in these here waters. Alderson just has to clear up the algae around the edges." - RJ Anderson / Fangraphs
by Dandy Salderson on Dec 27, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I feel a little stupider after readint this.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions
See. I can't spel rite n-e-more
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
There's some truth to it
whatever this team does in 2011 will credited to or blamed on Omar
What was the deal with Chass and the Times?
Did they actually fire him? Or did they just let him retire with “dignity”
There is no dignity when you crap your pants 4 times a day
And then write crap once a day in the paper
by ScottfromPeekskill on Dec 28, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
drunken sailors, then misers
Hmm, I dont think everything he says is so outrageous. The real mystery tho is how the Mets have literally now become THE cheapest spender this offseason. And no, you cannot count Reyes’ option, I’m sorry, but there is no way they could just let the guy go and get nothing back for him, they had to keep him or the fanbase would go bananas, that was not a “choice” in any way.
Now take away that option, and what have we spent this winter, two 1 million dollar contracts? Wow, now that is being really frugal. I’m not saying spend 20 mill on Cliff Lee or Crawford, but would it kill us to spend 3, 4, maybe 5 mill on a 3rd rate starter, geez? I can understand wanting to lower the payroll, fine, but this is a bit overkill. If they turn Carrasco into a starter is even more of a saving money kind of joke. This is exaclty like Billy Wagner last year, team spends 140 mill, then shoots itself in the foot just to save 2 mill.
Funny how the Mets are both the “biggest” and “cheapest” spenders, both at the same time. Part 1) Spend like a drunken sailor till u get to 140 mill, Part 2) Stop spending completely, then become the Pirates and cut corners everywhere else. The worst of both worlds.
Spending an extra 10 or 15 mill may not “fix” our longterm viability, but would put a better product on the field. Ask the Phillies fans what they pay for tix, they spend more payroll and yet have cheaper tix. The Wilpons should be taken to account for the fact that in our new ‘lean’ years, waiting for Sandy to rebuild the team, they havent exactly been honest about the fact. The words “rebuilding” dont make good PR do they.
The mystery to me is
how you can call them cheap when they will have a 140 million dollar payroll this season while making small moves. That’s 140 million big ones! They have to clear out some money before they can bring in new players and unfortunately, you can’t clear out money until contracts end (none of those contracts are tradeable).
You can’t call a team cheap when they are in the top 5 in payroll.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 27, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Murray Chass has the typical Yankee fan mentality re: the Mets...
They want it both ways.
A: “Boy the Mets are stupid. They’re not spending any money at all.”
(Point out what Matthew just pointed out.)
B:“Boy the Mets are stupid. They spend too much money and they don’t win.”
Which is it, boys?
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!? Right here: http://myentireteam.wordpress.com/
Apparently, he loves
the Mets.
"The '69 Mets will live on forever. But do you think anybody cares about Ron Swoboda's wife and kids? Not me! And I assume not Ron Swoboda" --Homer Simpson
lovethemets#54
lovethemets#54
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 28, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
chass is a moron.
Or maybe he has so much bottled up anger from when he was being bullied as a kid because of his name. Murray, I mean come on, who names their kid Murray? Why he takes it out on the Mets? We’ll never know.
Perhaps he was ridculed by a Met fan because of his name or, the more likely scenario, his name was once on the Shea stadium scoreboard and the entire stadium burst out with laughter.
Eh he's old
Murray was a perfectly acceptable name back then. The perfect name, in fact, when your best toys are a hoop and stick.
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 27, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Or this Murray:

"The '69 Mets will live on forever. But do you think anybody cares about Ron Swoboda's wife and kids? Not me! And I assume not Ron Swoboda" --Homer Simpson

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