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Welcome to my first AAOP! Can I offer you some coffee while you are here?
Hmm...okay. Apparently I can't since this is the internet. Damn you Al Gore...I want to give my readers coffee now, not three years from now!
Anywho, the 2011 Mets are somewhat of an interesting quandary. The way that I look at this team is that they are not at all far from being contenders as built today. Despite the likely loss of Johan Santana through midseason, this is still a team with some solid parts and with the right additions, they could be primed for contention in 2011 and (hopefully) beyond. Read along as I profile what I would try to do if I were the GM of the Mets.
Introduction
As I said in the opening, this is a team with some very interesting parts and if everybody is healthy and performing up to standard (certainly not a slam dunk, I understand) then they should definitely be in the mix come August and September. However, there are a number of holes to be filled that would go a long way towards helping out this team get to that stage. The way I see it, this is how team is currently stacked up:
| Positions | Player | Salary | Positions | Player | Salary | |
| Catcher | Josh Thole | 0.4 | SP1 | Mike Pelfrey | 3 (Arb Estimate) | |
| First Base | Ike Davis | 0.4 | SP2 | R.A. Dickey | 4 (Arb Estimate) | |
| Second Base | ??????? | ???????? | SP3 | Jon Niese | 0.4 | |
| Third Base | David Wright | 14 | SP4 | ????????? | ???????? | |
| Shortstop | Jose Reyes | 11 | SP5 | ????????? | ???????? | |
| Left Field | Jason Bay | 16 | ||||
| Center Field | Carlos Beltran | 18.5 | LR/Swingman | ????????? | ???????? | |
| Right Field | Angel Pagan | 4 (Arb Estimate) | Middle Relief | Ryota Igarashi | 1.75 | |
| Middle Relief | Manny Acosta | 0.4 | ||||
| Bench-C | ???????? | ????????? | Middle Relief | ????????? | ???????? | |
| Bench-IF | ???????? | ????????? | LOOGY | ????????? | ???????? | |
| Bench-IF/OF | ???????? | ????????? | Set Up | Bobby Parnell | 0.4 | |
| Bench-OF | ???????? | ????????? | Closer | Francisco Rodriguez | 11.5 | |
| Bench-IN/OF | ???????? | ????????? | ||||
| Injured | ||||||
| SP | Johan Santana | 22.5 | ||||
| Miscellaneous | ||||||
| P? | Oliver Perez | 12 | ||||
| 2B? | Luis Castillo | 6 | ||||
| IF | Daniel Murphy | 0.4 | ||||
| IF/OF | Nick Evans | 0.4 | Team Subtotal | 119.05 | ||
| IF | Luis Hernandez | 0.4 | ||||
| P | Pat Misch | 0.4 | ||||
| IF | Justin Turner | 0.4 | ||||
| SP | Dillon Gee | 0.4 | ||||
| OF | Lucas Duda | 0.4 | ||||
| OF | Gary Matthews Jr. | 1 |
According to my estimate of players currently on the books, as well as minor leaguers who are on the 40 man who will likely get substantial big league time, the team's payroll currently sits at $119.05 million. A lot of this depends on the team's budget and how much they're willing to spend on the team but with that estimate, I'd have to imagine the team currently has around $10-15 million at the most to spend this offseason and that could push the amount to a little over $130 million. Here's what I'd do, separated by position.
Lineup
When you look at this team's lineup, there is truly only one gaping hole and it's unfortunately one that's been there for a while now--Second Base. The rest of the lineup could be very solid, but depending on the health and performance of certain players, it's still a bit of an unknown. Overall I feel good about these guys and I think we will get solid bounceback performances from guys like Beltran, Bay and Reyes and that David Wright will improve his totals with a solid lineup behind him. Pagan seems to be the real thing to me and Thole is a solid hitter as he makes good frequent contact and walks a good deal. I think a big key to the lineup, aside from the injury guys, will be Ike Davis' maturation. If Ike can cut down some on the K's, continue to walk at a high pace like last year and pop maybe 10 more home runs, this offense could really be outstanding from 1-8.
That leaves the big gap at 2B and the one thing we know is that incumbent Luis Castillo has to go. No starting role, no platoon role, no bench or pinch running role. He's got no use on this (or any other) team and it's time to just eat the salary and move on. So what's my plan, here? Just as the Mets seem to be doing, I would open up the job to players already in the organization. Daniel Murphy and Josh Turner would be the main competitors and on the fringes you could also have Ruben Tejada, Josh Satin and even Reese Havens involved during the spring. I'd also bring in a veteran option on a minor league deal, perhaps an Adam Kennedy or Christian Guzman as competition. Ultimately, I'd weed out Havens and Satin pretty quickly, as they need more time in the minors and eventually Tejada as well as he should spend all of the 2011 at Buffalo. This would leave Murphy and Turner on the roster and Murphy would be my starter with Turner on the bench spelling him against Lefties. I like Turner on the bench because of his versatility and ability to play 2B, 3B and even a little SS if needed. I like this plan because it saves money that can be used in other places and though I've always liked Orlando Hudson, I'd rather have the extra money. Finally, depending on how he looks and feels in spring training of course, Carlos Beltran at this moment is my Center Fielder. Beltran will be 14 months removed from his surgery by spring training and with an actual spring, I feel that he'll be able improve on his mobility in center field and also become more used to his knee brace.
On Opening Day 2011, this would be my lineup:
| Position | Player |
| SS | Jose Reyes |
| RF | Angel Pagan |
| CF | Carlos Beltran |
| 1B | Ike Davis |
| 3B | David Wright |
| LF | Jason Bay |
| 2B | Daniel Murphy |
| C | Josh Thole |
Bench
The past couple of years, the Mets bench has been a punchless group of old guys who offered very little in terms of positive value to the team (sorry but Alex Cora's frowns and Julio Franco being 90 years old didn't offer much to the team on either side of the ball). A good bench should provide something to supplement the players in the lineup, whether it be a solid defensive player or a slugger who can come in late in the game and start a rally or even just players who won't embarrass you when the starters need a day off. Last season's "bench" was completely LULZ-worthy as it contained luminaries like Frank Catalanotto (who in fairness would've been a solid pickup 5 years ago), the aforementioned Alex Cora, Henry Blanco (a good defensive catcher who's never hit a lick and is pushing 40), the useless Gary Matthews Jr and church building utility man Fernando Tatis. It's embarrassing to have 4 guys who are such automatic outs sitting on the bench but it really says something when Tatis is the best of these guys (sure, Tatis was a miracle in 2008 but after an awful 2009 there's no way Tatis should've still been the #1 offensive bench option). For my 2011 bench, I'd like to add more offensive minded players as I feel our lineup's defense is pretty solid as a whole, as well as versatile players who can move around the field to give Terry Collins flexibility.
As I mentioned in the lineup paragraph, one bench spot on my team would go to Justin Turner. Turner can split time at 2nd base with Daniel Murphy and also cover 3rd base and SS in a pinch should the need arise. The righty swinger has hit at every level of the minor leagues, including a .906 OPS in 350 ab's at Buffalo (.862 when combined with what he did at AAA Norfolk). Most importantly, Turner walks at a solid rate and makes good contact and even though I've seen his defensive skills ranked anywhere from slightly above average to below average, I think he can serviceably handle those positions and his bat will provide the real value to the team.
Another solid pickup for this team's bench would be veteran utility man Jerry Hairston Jr. Hairston has decent value with the bat, as he's got a little pop and some speed too but the thing that I like is his versatility. Hairston is a utility man in the mold of fan favorite Joe McEwing (though with a more potent bat) in that he can play almost every position on the field. Last season with the Padres, Hairston saw action at all three outfield positions and also got a lot of time at 2B, 3B and SS. These types of players help to free up the moves that a manager makes, knowing that as long as Hairston's still around, you'll always have a capable player available to play each position. Hairston made 2.1 million last season and was worth 1.9 fWAR and if they could sign him at around 2 million, I think he'd be a great acquisition for the team's bench.
With regards to the backup catcher role, I think the recently non-tendered Russell Martin would be the best pickup as he could split time with Josh Thole. At the least, Martin is a solid defensive catcher who could possibly turn back into the solid player he was in his first three seasons. Having two good young catchers in Martin and Thole could allow the Mets to eventually deal one of them in the future for other players. On a 3 million dollar contract, I would be intrigued to see if Martin's bat comes back and at the least, you have a solid defensive catcher who you can non-tender next year if it doesn't.
With Martin, Turner and Hairston on the bench, you have most of the positions on the field covered. Along with these three, I would go out and sign our favorite nemesis Willie Harris. As much as we hate him, Harris would provide a decent left handed bat off the bench along with a little pop and some speed and he can also play all three OF positions as well as 2B and 3B if needed. Harris had a rough year with the Nats in 2010 and likely will come cheaper than the 1.5 million he made a year ago. Let's say he signs on for 1 year at 700,000.
For the last spot on the 2011 bench, I would go with our favorite mystery man Nick Evans. Of all of the guys on this bench, none of them really has much experience at 1B and Evans, who's out of options, provides a decent glove at first base should Ike Davis need a day off or if there's a tough lefty on the hill. Evans has some pop in his bat and I think he could be a solid contributor off the bench, not to mention that he'll also be making the big league minimum.
Rotation
With Johan Santana on the shelf for a few months, the team currently has 3 starters making up the rotation in Mike Pelfrey, RA Dickey and Jon Niese. These three are solid starters but obviously they could use more. The first pitcher that I'd go after to fill a hole would be former Padre's righty Kevin Correia. The 30 year old righty likely would come cheap and though he had a rough season in 2010, due to a doubled HR/FB rate, his xFIP was actually a tick better than it was in 2009 when he put up a 2.5 WAR (4.20 in 2009 to 4.19 in 2010). On a one year deal at around 2 million, I think Correia could be a solid pick up for the back of the rotation.
Finally to round out the rotation, I'd call up our division rival the Florida Marlins and see if they are still trying to slash payroll. If they were, I'd inquire about RHP Ricky Nolasco and I would offer CF Kirk Nieuwenheis, RHP Kyle Allen and INF Zach Lutz. Nolasco would benefit from Citi Field, as he's always been bitten by the home run bug and Citi's deep walls should mitigate some of that to a degree. Not only do these moves improve the rotation, but they allow prospects like Dillon Gee and Jenrry Mejia to stay at Buffalo and once Johan Santana comes back, they can move Correia to bullpen since he has experience pitching out of the pen with the Giants. I'd also look into signing one of Chris Young, Jeff Francis, Justin Duchscherer or Chris Capuano to a minor league deal to provide depth at Buffalo and potentially be the first callup should an injury strike.
Bullpen
Finally, we get to the bullpen. Like it or not, Frankie Rodriguez will have the all important "closer" title meaning that it's going to be on Collins' shoulders to use him (or not use him) enough so that his option will not vest. It would be a big help to this cause to find a pitcher who has closer experience, since they do not have an up and comer who could steal savez (sorry Bobby Parnell). Parnell should be a part of the team's pen, no doubt. However, I would prefer him to be more of a 7th inning guy, rather than a setup man. Manny Acostalypse did a decent enough job in the Mets' pen last year and I think he'd be a serviceable (and cheap) middle reliever in 2011. And Ryota Igarashi was terrible in 2010 but I am inclined to let him have a shot at redeeming himself in Spring Training, since they're already paying him anyway. I'd make sure he has a short leash if he makes the opening day roster. With those four players already in the pen, that leaves 3 spots open-one for a longman/swingman to replace Hisanori Takahashi, the second a lefty setup guy or LOOGY to replace Pedro Feliciano and finally, another middle reliever.
To fill the long reliever/swingman role, I'd look in-house to either Pat Misch or Mike O'Connor and allow either one to try to step up for the gig. We know all about Misch, who has been solid but unspectacular when given a shot and is out of options (sure he made through waivers last year, but I'd like to keep him around). O'Connor is another lefty who pitched all of last season at Buffalo and really made a solid impression out of the pen, striking out a batter an inning with good control in 51 appearances. The former Nats pitcher doesn't throw hard but manages to miss bats, although he isn't dominant against lefties. He's also thrown well in the Dominican Winter League, tossing 11.1 innings for Licey where he's only allowed 2 runs while K'ing 16 and walking just 3. Re-signed to a minor league deal, O'Connor would be a good option to have at AAA at the least.
Assuming only one of Misch/O'Connor make the team out of spring training, that leaves two open spots in the pen. To fill one of those spots, I would grab free agent LHP JP Howell, who was non-tendered by Tampa Bay. Howell missed all of 2010 due to injury but in 2008 and 2009, Howell established himself as one of the best lefty relievers in the game. The recent news on him is that his shoulder injury is healing after surgery but he will not be ready for spring training. This news could force his value and price to plummet further, hopefully down to the territory to where they could sign him to a minor league deal worth under 1 million at the big league level (let's say 700,000) with incentives. If he doesn't start the season in Flushing, the team could always roll with O'Connor out of the pen to start and then wait for Howell to make his return. A healthy JP Howell would be a huge piece in the 2011 pen.
To fill the final spot in the pen, I feel like we need somebody who can steal saves and some 9th inning duty from Frankie Rodriguez. There are a number of intriguing bullpen options out there, but some of them like Grant Balfour, Scott Downs, Matt Guerrier and Takashi Saito among others are Type A free agents. Staying away from those guys, there are still a number of solid options on the market and I'd look into Bobby Jenks, Jesse Crain, Todd Coffey and Octavio Dotel. In the end, though, I'd go with the former White Sox closer Jenks to take over as the team's setup man/super secret 2nd closer. Jenks' numbers look ugly if you are Michael Baron (wow look at that rising ERA...that number is so important!!!!) but taking a hop over to fangraphs, you'll notice that he really didn't have that bad a year in 2010 as his FIP and xFIP sat right around 2.60 and his K/9 climbed to the highest it's been since 2006 at 10.42 K/9. The culprit for Jenks? A .368 BABIP as well as a LOB% of 65.4%, down from his average LOB% which is typically in the mid 70's. Jenks made 7.5 million last season and would be a great option if they could grab him on a discounted 5 million dollar deal, due to that inflated ERA.
Conclusion
Some final housekeeping items-Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo would be released after spring training. I don't expect either to fetch anything in a deal, so their full salaries are listed. Also, I could go over every player that I'd like to see signed to a minor league deal but I won't. A few that are interesting to me, though, include Alfredo Aceves, Willy Aybar, Manny Delcarmen, Fred Lewis, Andrew Miller, Dioner Navarro, Nick Punto, Ryan Rowland-Smith and George Sherrill.
I think the 2011 Mets would be greatly helped out by a number of these pickups and they would have a great shot at contending if they did even half of this. These moves completely fill out the big league team and allow most of the young guys in the system to have extra time in the minors. Guys like Fernando Martinez, Jenrry Mejia, Ruben Tejada, Lucas Duda and Dillon Gee would all benefit from some more time at AAA and would be better options as extreme backup plans instead of being the next guy on the list in case of injury.
With all of these moves, the team's payroll would sit at a relatively manageable 132.85 million and most importantly, wouldn't lock the team into any players long term (other than guys like Martin who would be arbitration eligible in a year). Not only does this improve the team's chances in 2011 but it keeps the payroll flexible for next offseason. Here is the spreadsheet of the team after all of these signings/trades have been included:
| Positions | Player | Salary | Positions | Player | Salary | |
| Catcher | Josh Thole | 0.4 | SP1 | Mike Pelfrey | 3 (Arb Estimate) | |
| First Base | Ike Davis | 0.4 | SP2 | R.A. Dickey | 4 (Arb Estimate) | |
| Second Base | Daniel Murphy | 0.4 | SP3 | Jon Niese | 0.4 | |
| Third Base | David Wright | 14 | SP4 | Ricky Nolasco | 4 (Arb Estimate) | |
| Shortstop | Jose Reyes | 11 | SP5 | Kevin Correia | 2 | |
| Left Field | Jason Bay | 16 | ||||
| Center Field | Carlos Beltran | 18.5 | LR/Swingman | Pat Misch | 0.4 | |
| Right Field | Angel Pagan | 4 (Arb Estimate) | Middle Relief | Ryota Igarashi | 1.75 | |
| Middle Relief | Manny Acosta | 0.4 | ||||
| Bench-C | Russell Martin | 3 | Middle Relief | Bobby Parnell | 0.4 | |
| Bench-IF | Justin Turner | 0.4 | Lefty Setup | Mike O'Connor | 0.4 | |
| Bench-IF/OF | Jerry Hairston Jr | 2 | Righty Setup | Bobby Jenks | 5 | |
| Bench-OF | Willie Harris | 0.7 | Closer | Francisco Rodriguez | 11.5 | |
| Bench-IN/OF | Nick Evans | 0.4 | ||||
| Injured | ||||||
| SP | Johan Santana | 22.5 | ||||
| LHP | JP Howell | 0.7 | ||||
| Miscellaneous | ||||||
| P? | Oliver Perez | 12 | ||||
| 2B? | Luis Castillo | 6 | ||||
| SP | Dillon Gee | 0.4 | ||||
| OF | Lucas Duda | 0.4 | Team Subtotal | 132.85 | ||
| IF | Luis Hernandez | 0.4 | ||||
| OF | Gary Matthews Jr. | 1 | ||||
So that's it!!!! Let's Go METS!!!!
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Iz aight
I like it because it leaves even more room, moneywise, for 2012.
I’m kind of iffy on Nolasco, tho, who would’ve been a better pickup a few years ago.
Love the mention of Julio Franco, even tho you’re kind of dissing him.
Any reason why you're iffy on Nolasco?
I understand he’s coming off season ending surgery but he’s been pretty good the past couple of years, high homer rate notwithstanding. His FIP’s have sat in the mid 3’s the past three years.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 4, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like the Nolasco trade
It’s not that I don’t think Nolasco can benefit from Citi Field, or the Mets’ relatively better defense, but giving up Nieuwenheis, Allen and Lutz is just too much. You could throw in another guy or so, and reasonably be able to trade for a much more quality arm. What are Florida’s weaknesses, anyway? What do they need?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 4, 2010 11:44 PM EST reply actions
I like Nolasco a lot and I think he'd be a solid #2 pitcher
in the rotation for this team. I actually wasn’t sure if that’d be enough of a package for him, considering Lutz’s injury prone-ness and Allen’s struggles in 2010. I like Kyle Allen a bit but last season was ugly for him and while I like Lutz, he’s blocked by David Wright for the foreseeable future. Nieuwenheis is definitely an interesting prospect but his value is tied to whether he can play a good CF and whether he’ll make enough contact to stay in the lineup. Overall, I though it was pretty fair for a pitcher who has his warts but is probably better than anybody we have, save for a healthy Santana.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 5, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
It's not that I don't think Nolasco is decent,
but he’s Ricky Nolasco. Giving up those three prospects, throw in maybe another guy or so, and you could theoretically make a reasonable trade proposal to some other team for some other, possibly better, pitcher. That’s all I mean.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 5, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
A lot to like here.
Good SP depth. The only real complaint I can think of right now is the lack of a thumper on the bench. I mean Evans should be good vLHP but If Martin doesn’t find his stroke what do we have vRHP?
Also, how’d you get the $119.05M in committed payroll? This has $119.5M as the pre-arb figure.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Interesting...who am I missing in the payroll?
I didn’t see that Google one and I just went by the figures on Cot’s.
For the bench, I toyed with the idea of Matt Diaz as a thumper off the bench, but I feel like overall, everybody there has a little bit of pop and that’d be much of an improvement over last year’s bench where Tatis was power threat #1. As the season goes along, if one of those guys doesn’t work out, Lucas Duda could get a call up if he’s raking in Buffalo.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 5, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
interesting ideas...
Nolasco is okay, but he’s a bit erratic. he does offer a decent innings-eater pitcher, which we need. I’d rather go after a guy like Anibal Sanchez though, whom I feel has much higher upside.
I like Correia, actually, good signing there.
good moves for the bench, but I doubt Martin signs for that little.
I already overstated my reasons of not having Jenks here…hehe. but it wouldn’t be the end of the world if he were to sign for less than he thinks he’s worth! I also wouldn’t hand Murphy the second base job just yet.
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I think the bones are right here. Only concerns are Nolasco and the bullpen.
I don’t like the amount we are giving away to get him and i don’t think he is a great pitcher. I think I would prefer signing multiple FA reclamation projects and hope one maybe two make the rotation and keep our prospects for the moment.
That bullpen is craptastic. Mike O’Connor? the 30 year old Minor League specialist? If he is the best we can stuff in the BP then we have real trouble. Rather than spend $5m on Jenks how about Will Ohman for $2m and good righty for another $2m.
Otherwise, well done sir.
by ScottfromPeekskill on Dec 5, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions
I see your concern with O'Connor but
at the same time, Feliciano was 29 in 2006 when he became a full time pen member. He didn’t even make the club out of spring training that year because they thought of him as filler and decided to take Darren Oliver over him so Oliver wouldn’t retire. So you never know…when a guy like O’Connor can put up numbers like that at AAA, I think it’s good to take notice. They might have something there.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 5, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
I understand Nolasco is certainly not a number one but
I feel like he’s a solid #2 for this team. A lot of people (myself included) are interested in James Shields. Shields is a good pitcher but looking at FIP and xFIP, Nolasco has been better than Shields each of the past three seasons. They’re actually pretty similar pitchers…definite fly ball pitchers but Nolasco has struck more batters over the past 3 seasons on average, whereas Shields has been more durable going over 200 innings 4 straight years. Nolasco also has put up better walk rates than Shields who isn’t bad there himself. Nolasco has also been worth more WAR over the past 2 seasons…in 2010 he was worth 2.5 fWAR in only 26 starts, while Shields in a full season was worth 2.2 fWAR. In 2009, Nolasco beat him again 4.3 to 3.9 and in 2008, Shields just barely edged Nolasco 4.1 to 3.9.
I just feel like Shields is more of a name because of TB’s playoff runs in 08 and 10 and will cost more, whereas you could get a similar (possibly better pitcher) making less because Nolasco’s less of a household name, not to mention the fact that Andrew Friedman and his FO is pretty smart and the Marlins are pretty stupid (come on…Uggla for Omar Infante?). That was my view of it, anyway.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 5, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions
First of all,
I like all of these plans, and this one is a prodigious effort. I like them all the more because I am too lazy to do one. But just about ALL of the plans, and not just this one, seem content with the offense we send out. I am sorry, but our offense is a mirage. We all watched them this year. They do not suffer slumps, they go through droughts. Sometimes after the dust settles people look at their team and “disremember” how rotten they were at points. Two of the last three years our offense came up a big zero for too long stretches (2009 was an anomaly—too many injuries—everything sucked), and while I know we also need starters and relievers, I feel very strongly that simply adding a 2B will not do it. As I heard a guy say yesterday on the air: “that dog won’t hunt.” I believe a trade must be made to shake up the offense. I don’t think we can sign anyone so I think it has to be trade. I don’t know what is available but if we go in with these jokers again, we are assuming that a new hitting coach and a new manager will somehow inspire them to improve their approach at the plate and actually produce runs at critical times during games. We don’t necessarily need a huge bopper, just a different mix. As far as the Nolasco trade, I like it. Correia is ok. I like getting Jenks. I despise Misch. Igarashi is a millstone, but just for this year. Both of these guys are small fry, and could be replaced by other small fry who I do not yet hate. Martin might be good too. I think his problem is that he stopped juicing (Whenever I see power numbers drop precipitously I just naturally assume HGH or roids or some new magic elixir has been discontinued). I just wonder if he would be willing to platoon? But having two guys who are strong at the end of the bullpen is key, and I like Jenks. We can give him some save opps so that Franky can rest his thumb(yuk yuk). With Santana coming back, our SP might hold up. Thanks, very good.
Chances are, better years from Bay, Beltran, and Wright (and a full year of Reyes) will help the offense enough.
No to mention there will be no PA’s given to GMJ, Smithtown’s Own, JaKobs, Cora, Frenchy.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
i think we will also see better numbers from Ike to help out as well.
2b, LF and RF will be productive.
by ScottfromPeekskill on Dec 5, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I still think it is a bad mix.
We had good years from Beltran and Wright, and Delgado a few years back, but we still had these inexplicable funks. Oh well. When we describe our optimism with phrases like “Chances are..”, then it really IS a crapshoot. I have my fingers crossed too. But I will be shocked if Beltran stays off the DL this year.
Everyone goes through slumps
there nothing you can do about that besides putting together an All-Star team.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Re: the inexplicable funks...
don’t forget that when the good players in the lineup got cold, we had the likes of Frenchy, Barajas, GMJ, Jacobs, Cora, Castillo in the lineup. It’s not like those guys can be counted on to pick up any of the slack (maybe Barajas or Frenchy when they heat up but once they go cold, they’ll stay cold for weeks on end because they hack at everything). Having guys that at least control the strikezone will help avoid those funks because if a guy goes cold, at least he’ll have the ability to walk and move the line…when you have a bunch of low OBP guys, they’ll just K or make weak outs instead of walking.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 5, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
the problem is...with our craptastic offense
is that there’s a lot of inflexibility thanks to the payroll Omar doled out to two players. (Bay, Beltran). there isn’t much anyone can do, I believe. the pitching staff is in shambles, with only three semi-certain starters (Dickey, Niese and Pelf) what else is there?
what else can anyone do unless you’re willing to Traid DAH CORE, there’s not much TO DO; except improve the pitching.
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I know slumps
what we do is worse than slumps. We st here and watched them, screaming our heads off. The Phils had something like it at the end of their year. It is nice to know we are not exclusive.
I would not even care if we traded a guy for another guy exactly like him. Just to get the taste out of my mouth. We don’t have to trade the core, although I think Reyes and Beltran are available. We do a terrible job most of the time of working counts. What bugs me most though is how we suck against bad pitchers and a lot of bad bullpens. We stop hitting after the 4th inning, things like that. All I know is i do not want to go ack into the season with the same old offense. Change some of it, just for the sake of change
I think that there's a coaching component to this
When you have one guy good enough to make a MLB roster slumping, it’s one guy and that’s to be expected. When you have more than half your lineup slumping at any one time, doing so in the way that you observed (falling off in late innings, not being able to hit clearly terrible middle relievers on bad teams etc.), and not improving or trying new things for a month or more, it’s usually more of a systemic thing. I think the “stay the course” message was strong last year, and that’s a shame because once the heading is wrong staying the course is a bad idea.
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
Change for the sake of change is stupid though (not saying you are stupid, just the all too popular sentiment).
If your not going to actually improve something/anything there is absolutely zero point.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
I like the Nolasco idea...
I really like Ricky Nolasco, and I think he’s a very underrated pitcher. He’d make a good #2 on this staff, given Florida would take that deal.
Just a few issues:
-I don’t like the bullpen coming out of spring training. I feel it’s too top-heavy with Jenks and Rodriguez, and that $5 million on Jenks could be spent on multiple pitchers. I don’t know if you want it to be this way, but it also might cause a closer controversy if K-Rod struggles. I do like JP Howell as a bounceback candidate when he returns, though.
-I looked through the minor league contracts, and I think maybe one or two of those guys would take minor league deals if you’re lucky. I get the concept, but I don’t think guys like Fred Lewis, Dioner Navarro, Manny Delcarmen, George Sherrill (off reputation), etc. would take a non-guaranteed contract.
-That can’t be $132 million in salary. We’re in the mid-120’s and you’re adding Correia, Nolasco, Martin, and bench parts. I’d say you’re somewhere around $140 at the end. Still well under, though.
Otherwise, it’s pretty good. Nice job.
I was trying to keep the pen cheap enough in order to
get a guy like Jenks. I don’t think it’s the greatest pen, but I think those guys could be decent enough if the starters can give you 6-7 innings on a regular basis.
And I made a mistake in the payroll, although I’m still unsure what I messed up. I went by Cots’ contracts. Perhaps it’s Beltran’s salary…I know he’s got deferred money. Does that count against the 2011 payroll?
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 6, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Wait?
Jenks, 5 Million, one year?
I don’t have a problem with it but…
What happened to the 86 comments on my AAOP trashing my 7 mil, two year deal for Feliciano?
Not complaining just pointing it out.
Feliciano can only get lefites out
Jenks can get lefties AND righties out.
Yet you want to (theoretically) pay Feliciano $2M more than Jenks in total… I don’t know how you’re not understanding this.
(not to mention that we can get a pick by not signing Feliciano – and Next year we can offer Jenks Arb. and when he declines we can get picks from that.)
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Puppy Ave.
Got my vote
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