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Cranky February Hodgepodge

Some light airing of grievances:

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1. The Rays are booked up at the 1B/DH position, yet are pursuing 1B/DH Russell Branyan. Why? Because Branyan is a valuable player, and smart organizations pick up good, cheap players regardless of who is ahead of said players on the depth chart. The Mets, on the other hand, are content to stand pat despite the availability of Branyan and Felipe Lopez. Injuries happen, players slump and competent back-ups are always needed. Sign now, figure out playing time later.

2. At Baseball Daily Digest, Bill Baer (of the Phillies blog Crashburn Alley) wrote a piece comparing the Phillies' and Mets' leadership. Normally I wouldn't pay much attention to this kind of results-based, ex-post-facto leadership evaluation, but Baer is a solid writer who normally does great work, so I gave it a look. It starts out with some anecdotes about the Phillies, portraying their players as gritty gamers who never want to take a day off. The leadership skills possessed by Roy Halladay and Chase Utley are apparently a driver of the Phils' success. Fair enough, but any Mets fan reading the piece instantly knows it is headed into Jayson Stark territory. The leadership void on the Mets is depicted as a significant reason for the team's recent failures. Numerous examples of the leadership problem are presented, and I take issue with a couple of them. Here they are, with my take on each:

Jose Reyes, known more for his celebratory antics than anything he’s accomplished on the field, was being accused by New York media and Mets fans last year for being in a wimp in his recovery from a hamstring injury. Reyes worsened his injury status attempting to come back prematurely to selfishly show everyone that he was a gamer.

Let's just ignore the lame Phillie fan throwaway line about All-Star Jose Reyes being known more for celebrations than on-field performance. Although it does provide a backdrop for the (usually objective) writer's perspective. The last sentence is what struck a nerve. Reyes is selfish for wanting to come back from injury and do his job? Come again? Pushing his body to rehab from injury, in order to better his team, seems like the very opposite of "selfish". I never thought I'd see Reyes likened to Ivan Drago, screaming "I win for me... for me!" as the Soviet Premier/Fred Wilpon looks on in disgust at the egotistical glory-seeking athlete.

Reyes put his body on the line to come back and help his team win ballgames. Bad idea? Almost certainly, but the blame for that should fall more on the Mets' medical staff than Reyes himself. Maybe Jerry Manuel deserves some too; Reyes likely didn't want to be told "that's poor, Jose" by his skipper, if he chose not to exert himself too much in rehab. It's a lose-lose situation. He pushed himself to come back and was bizarrely called selfish. If he didn't come back, he'd be labeled "soft" and "not a gamer".

Attempting a comeback certainly shouldn't be held up as evidence that Reyes's actions were a detriment to team leadership and chemistry, which is the overall point of Baer's piece. Mets management and players have made numerous embarrassing blunders the last few seasons -- let's not fabricate more for the sake of a tidy narrative.

Next up is Baer's take on Johan Santana:

Ace Johan Santana appears to spend far too much time working on unique handshakes for all of his teammates, if this video is any indication.

Let's insert various other players' names and their actions into this template:

Ryan Howard appears to spend far too much time filming Subway commercials, if this video is any indication.

Charlie Manuel appears to spend far too much time dieting, if this article is any indication.

Cole Hamels appears to spend far too much time posing for ridiculous photos, if this blog post is any indication.

I could go on, but the point is made.

I tried to come up with reasons why a fun, harmless handshake exercise would be portrayed as a negative. The potential argument that Santana should be preparing for the game instead of wasting time with handshakes is a poor one -- by my count the whole process took 1 minute, 24 seconds. This is an immaterial amount of time, given how early starting pitchers are generally in the ballpark to prepare for a game. Especially a hard-working, multiple Cy Young Award winning pitcher like Santana. Also, listen to Ron Darling describe Santana as a leader of the ballclub towards the end of the clip. Maybe Baer had his speakers on mute.

If the criticism is based on what Johan does in his spare time, well, that's a pretty weak criticism. What business is it of anyone how he spends his free time? More importantly, what in the name of Zeus's butthole does this have to do with not exhibiting leadership?

If creating a separate handshake for every player on the team isn't leadership, then what is? The team's best pitcher took the time to personally engage the other 24 players on the roster. Hypothetically, if I were a 22 year-old rookie who made the Opening Day roster and Johan Santana approached me about creating a secret handshake, I'd be ecstatic. One of the best players in baseball wants to connect with me? Wow -- I'd really feel like a part of the team. Maybe it's a waste of time, but that lies in the eye of the beholder and has absolutely nothing to do with a team leadership problem. Again, let's not twist things done by Mets players just for the sake of bashing an already down-on-its-luck organization. Better to write nothing at all than to write schlock.

3. A classic myth propagated by the New York mainstream media is that of the 3 AM "middle of the night" firing of Willie Randolph. David Lennon made light it in a recent Tweet and Baer mentioned it in his BDD piece as well. This really needs to be put to rest. Randolph was fired shortly after midnight, following a game on the west coast. The only time zone that matters is the one where the firing took place. Saying it happened at 3 AM is exaggeration in an attempt to make Mets management look as inept as possible. Unfortunately, those unfamiliar with how the firing went down usually take the mainstream media's word for it that the firing happened in the middle of the night.

4. Standing still on the left side of a subway escalator should be an arrestable, or at least fineable, offense.

5. Is there any way Avatar is a better film than Inglourious Basterds or The Hurt Locker? All three are nominated for the Best Picture Academy Award, and Avatar is the Vegas favorite to win. It's technically brilliant and groundbreaking, but lacking in most other departments, namely screenplay and acting. James Cameron already took home a Best Picture statue for a visually stunning film (Titanic) which was inferior to other nominees (L.A. Confidential, Good Will Hunting). Hopefully it doesn't happen again, and either Basterds or Locker wins the prize.

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Very nice post James

I think Inglorious Basterds was beyond fantastic and should win in a landslide. I didn’t see the Hurt Locker though, so that might be premature. If Avatar wins I’ll be pissed.

by vivaelpujols on Feb 19, 2010 2:08 AM EST reply actions  

Basterds was amazing, but Hurt Locker was nearly perfectly executed

it should probably go to THL, although I’d be fine with either. While Avatar was fun, I feel like if they hadn’t handed me 3-d glasses on my way into the theater i’d care a lot less about it. The story was fairly generic and kind of boring at times. It was technically masterful, and if it wins artwork design i’d understand, but not best picture.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Hurt Locker was amazing

so was Up In The Air.

No way Avatar wins it.

I like IGB, but I dont think it was best picture worthy.

by gbaked on Feb 19, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

eh

Up in the Air was good, i’d put Hurt Locker and Precious ahead of it though, maybe even An Education. Sadly i still haven’t seen Inglorious Basterds so i can’t speak to that one. but one thing, i wish Up would get more serious attention to legitimize the really good animated film because if you appreciate it for what it is, it was honestly better than half the nominees.

by Rob Castellano on Feb 19, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

up was great

and so was the fantastic mr. fox

by gbaked on Feb 22, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff, especially #4

Stuff like that really pisses me off. I would like to add using the left side door and blocking people walking the opposite way trying to use the right door.

"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer

by boom_roasted on Feb 19, 2010 2:09 AM EST reply actions  

#4

The only people I’ll excuse here are people with mental disabilities and slow children. If you have any sort of situational awareness, this is something that should be immediately, cross-culturally understandable. Kee-rist, man/lady, there’s an escalator going the opposite way right in front of you, role-modeling the proper protocol for you. THE RIGHT ANSWER IS LITERALLY STARING YOU IN THE FACE.

/Never mind that throbbing vein, bodega guy, just give me my regular coffee

by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Feb 19, 2010 2:20 AM EST reply actions  

also bothers me

how people decide to congregate and talk on/at the top/bottom of subway stairs.

You stop here? Right here? MOVE!

by gbaked on Feb 19, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh, at Penn Station, when people are waiting for Amtrak/NJ Transit/LIRR, they do that.

You’ll have like 200 people getting off a train, and basically going up a big, wide staircase single-file…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post, especially #2
4. Standing still on the left side of a subway escalator should be an arrestable, or at least fineable, offense.

Why is anyone standing still on any escalator ever? You don’t have to run up or down the thing, just walk slowly and we’ll all get to where we need to be a little bit faster, and the exercise won’t hurt your fat ass either… or mine.

And with the Oscars, I didn’t see Avatar (I’m like the only one I think) or The Hurt Locker [It’s coming tomorrow (God Bless Netflix)], but yes, Inglorious Basterds was brilliant. I do however, think that District 9 and Up were both at least as good if not better. District 9’s story was a fantastic original piece, with perfect pacing and story telling, wonderful character development and acting, and great effects as well. You can pretty much say the same exact thing with Basterds, I really loved both movies. And regarding Up, this might be the best 4 minutes and 23 seconds of any movie ever. I really wouldn’t have a problem with any of those three winning and I’m sure I’ll be adding The Hurt Locker to that list tomorrow.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 4:33 AM EST reply actions  

Oh

And Titanic sucked. It’s amazing how Cameron who directed some of my favorite movies, (Terminator, T2, Aliens), DiCaprio who’s one of my favorite actors in recent years, and Kate Winslet who is an excellent actress herself could all suck so bad together in one film.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 4:43 AM EST up reply actions  

and Billy Zane was great

and the effects were spectacular

but I was still rooting for the iceberg

by hotspur on Feb 19, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't walk up or down escalators

I have a serious fear of them… no joke. When I have to use them I clutch onto the sides and stand absolutely still

Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P

by metsguy234 on Feb 19, 2010 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm the same way going down

for a long-term I just refused to go down escalators, it still scares the crap out of me.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

On a non-baseball blog

There was a discussion of injuries – I think table saws or the like – and I remember looking at a national database of accidents. One category that surprised me was people who suffer nasty escalator injuries like having their foot ripped off.

I make sure my shoelaces are tied.

by ol Pete on Feb 19, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I saw an older lady take a fall on an escalator in the Port Authority over the holidays. Scared the crap out of me.

"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez

by OSUmets on Feb 19, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

My boss' kid lost part of a foot in an escalator at Shea.

It was rather embarrassing how I learned about it. On my first day at work I saw all these pictures of him and his son with Doc and Darryl, and other pictures of him on the field with Hojo and Davey. I asked him about the pictures and he said they were all from ‘86. I mentioned how cool that was and he responded that, no, it wasn’t really cool at all because they got all that meet and greet and special treatment as part of a settlement for his kid’s accident.

So, you know, watch yourself on the escalators.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mean that in a snarky way...

it’s just that I can see falling, or tripping, but not an amputation.

by SeanSchirmer on Feb 20, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Shoelaces or part of your shoe get caught

and are drawn down. I’d guess that sometimes they are so mangled that they’re amputated later at the hospital.

by ol Pete on Feb 20, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Eeek

I tend to run down escalators.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Feb 20, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a bum knee last summer and couldnt walk up stairs.

So like a normal person i stood on the RIGHT HAND SIDE of the escalator steps. Only jerks stand on the left and block traffic flow.

I also hate those jerks who drive at 40mph in the left lane instead of keeping to the right. The fast lane…IS A FAST LANE people! I demand legislation that lets me strap heavy weapons to my car to “remove” people from the fast lane.

"Wait till Biggus Dickus hears about this!"

by scott from peekskill on Feb 19, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Post

Any time you can compare Ivan Drago to Jose Reyes, is a win for me. Great Piece!

I live in the Philadelphia area and the news stations are already advertising how the Phillies are in camp early. Really? So are the Mets, Yankees, and a dozen other MLB teams. They act like they won the World Series last year.

By the way, new to the blog. Looking forward to posting.

by chrebetsthebet on Feb 19, 2010 5:08 AM EST reply actions  

Loved #2

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 6:03 AM EST reply actions  

comment fail

but that bullshit about how the Phillies are leaders and the Mets are celebrating unleaders really pisses me off

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 6:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Avatar...

…had such an awful/unoriginal plot it was definitely annoying. It was like the a combination with the 10 most common action movie plots (plus Romeo and Juliet and Lion King) plus a bunch of ‘oh my god be nice to the environment’ stuff. Oh yeah and ‘oh my god he’s in a wheelchair but he’s super tough and he can overcome it’.

In a perfect world ‘A Serious Man’ would win in my book. That movie kicked ass.

by SheoawnnGreen23 on Feb 19, 2010 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

Avatar is also part "Pocahontas".

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Feb 19, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say part is putting it nicely

it’s Pocahontas on another planet with blue people. Not to take away from the movie which I’m sure was excellent, just sayin.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly

The first time I saw the blue princess bringing the marine to her village, I immediately thought, “He just took the plot of Pocahontas!”. Good film, not the best film of the year, though.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Feb 19, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

id like to pocahotass

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Feb 19, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

don't forget part Ferngully

and part dances with Wolves, and part a dozen other rehashed stories.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol when I first saw commercials

before I knew anything about it, the first thing I thought was: is this supposed to be a live version of ferngully?

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Cliche

after cliche. Avatar was entertaining, yes, but unobtanium? Really? He coulnd’t think of anything better? Hell the guys at Bioware that made Mass Effect 2 thought of better names for the elements, such as Element Zero. Also, the Stoic-esque “we are all connected to the planet” and can literally talk and listen to it was not to my liking.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 19, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Unobtanium

Forgot about that part. My girlfriend had to smack me to stop me from laughing. That was so dumb.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Feb 19, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

have you seen The Core?

i get the feeling you’d love it if you found unobtanium funny

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

As a screenwriter

I have to tell you that Avatar is an homage to a lot more movies than those you listed, but…and this is a big but….you can say the same thing about almost any movie. It’s how hollywood works. No idea is original. It kind of makes me laugh that people are on JC about Avatar being unoriginal and in the same sentence are praising Inglorious Basterds. Irony abounds.

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that there aren't many thorougly original ideas left out there in hollywood (although outside of the mainstream you'll find some clever stuff)

but Avatar didn’t bring any new twist to the table with its interpretation of an old idea. The special effects were great, but the writing was incredibly derivative. I like to see a director put their own spin on an old idea, and Avatar just felt like the same thing we’ve seen before without anything differentiating it except the 3-d effects. Inglorious was based on an old film, granted, but each version had its own totally different feel to it, they were the same idea told two totally different ways, thats what I look for.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Escalator (tongue in cheek)

I love standing still on the left side. I was talking with my wife about this last weekend: How the “cool” people love saying “on your left” when they are walking up the escalator. Stop taking yourself so serious. You want to walk, use the stairs.

by Nystrom on Feb 19, 2010 8:00 AM EST reply actions  

Those people

aren’t arrogant New Yorkers. They’re heroes.

by Mount17 on Feb 19, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

That's poor, Nystrom.

That’s poor…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

is that going to be your new sig?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Re. the Randolph firing

The NY media loves to harp on the timing of the firing because they think it’s all about them, and they love making themselves the story by pointing out how much trouble they had covering it because it was 3am where they were.

by JoshNY on Feb 19, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

That's all of the media in a nutshell, it seems.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

They forget:

It’s always 3AM somewhere.

by erich10031 on Feb 19, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

*10

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree on the 3AM meme

It’s true, from Randolph’s perspective, that he was fired in the middle of the night. The exact time (12:15 AM PT, 3:15 ET) is inconsequential.

The game ended at midnight California time, but he had no reason to be in CA once fired. He lived on the east coast, his family was on the east coast, and there probably weren’t any flights back to the east cost given the time. He was stuck, with nothing to do but go to sleep. Couldn’t even call his wife without waking her up at 3:15 AM. (Her time, of course.) The time difference is material, and the Mets decision to fire him when he was a continent away from home and when home was most definitely asleep is, well, awful. It reflects poorly on the organization and correctly so.

by Dan Lewis on Feb 19, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

I basically agree with this.

The time at which he was fired doesn’t bother me in the least. I just always thought it was shitty to make him go all the way from Queens to Anaheim, watch his team win and THEN get fired. It smacked of something more punitive than just getting canned; it was like a great big “fuck you and have a nice six-hour flight back home by yourself, dick” kind of moment.

Still, Fire Willie.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

did they really make him get his own plane ticket?

even truckers get a bus ticket back home if they’re fired on the road…

by hotspur on Feb 19, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

yea, this

the media are selfish little bitches, but the timing of the firing was still pretty bad

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 19, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

They were ready to fire him on Sunday before the trip to CA, but it was Father’s Day and they didn’t want to can Willie on Father’s Day. So they waited one more day, which caused him to fly with the team to Anaheim. So by the FO not wanting to make themselves look bad by firing him on Father’s Day, they made themselves look bad by making him fly cross-country and firing him after a win.

It really was terrible timing by the FO. They either needed to make the decision earlier or wait another week until the team came home to avoid looking like jackasses.

"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez

by OSUmets on Feb 19, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think I recall that they couldn't wait

because it had been leaked that afternoon to a reporter or reporters, so waiting would have meant the vultures circling and going hard at Willie all week, or until he was finally fired. They really should never have dithered as long as they did, and that was all about Omar wanting to be a nice guy. Which is a big problem of Omar’s.

by SuperT on Feb 19, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't Tony B the "alleged" source of the leak?

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean, Jeff Wilpon wanting to be a nice guy.

Because, Jeff Wilpon is the general manager.

http://www.capitolavenueclub.com/

by PWHjort on Feb 19, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, still think its overblown

Part being a baseball manager or any sports coach is dealing with the scheduling and travel, and job security is always a risk. They fired him after the game. Could they have been more sensitive about it? Sure. Were they under any obligation to be? Absolutely not. Did the media blow the whole thing way out of proportion? Completely. The exact time is not immaterial. If they had fired him at 3am, as portrayed, that would have been confusing and made the organization look not just insensitive, but tentative and lacking in internal communication and authority. This was how the media portrayed it. As it was, that he was fired essentially right after the game, the decision was made and finalized relatively quickly. If the story had been reported properly, organization simply comes off as insensitive, not all that other nonsense, and there wouldn’t be such a large gap in the perception of what happened and what actually happened.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Feb 20, 2010 3:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Love everything about this post

When I saw that Phillies stuff yesterday, I nearly went into a rage. It’s so misguided and a thin argument, but then I realized it’s useless arguing with a Phillies fan — particularly those who only came out of the woodwork in 2007 (not that this particular one did).

Anyone standing on the left on an escalator in any NYC-area transit center deserves to be pushed aside.

by NJBaseball on Feb 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Actually

Reyes is know more for being on the cover of MLB 2k8, something no Philly has accomplished since the advent of video games.

by Olde Isle Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

That game sucks, though.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a PS3

but from everything I’ve heard from pretty much anyone, anywhere, ever, is that “The Show” is approximately 3 bajillion times better than the MLB 2k series. Considering that Front Page Sports ‘96 still plays better than MLB 2k9, I don’t have any trouble believing that. I love baseball, I love video games, I couldn’t play MLB 2k9 for more than 20 minutes before I got fed up and brought it back to EB Games.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 19, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No; I meant that as in MLB 2K8 sucks. Misreplied.

I have that game, for the Wii. It was cool when I first got it, but the replay value sucks massively. It lets me have one full season, and then, all subsequent seasons are like 20 games.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm introducing a new commentor rating system
I don’t have a PS3

-9000 for making poor life decisions.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

or until 2011-2012 when they have to release a new gen because

the current ones hard drive is teh pits.

Eventually you’ll all come back to the light side.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

not until Sony starts releasing game systems at reasonable prices

I was loyal to the PS brand until the PS3 game out and cost like 600$ if you wanted a decent version of it. Theyve dropped the price since, but I got a 360 in the meantime and haven’t really regretted the choice.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but if Xbox has to start the new gen early

which a lot of reports have said they will because the current hard drive can’t keep up with some of the increasing technology, see LA Noire which is going to change lives and the American Way, and people have to buy a new one system to won’t you/they have ended up spending the same amount anyway on the two systems?

I mean I can understand why in the last 2 years it hasn’t been an issue but with game developers developing new more advanced technology that requires a more powerful hard drive I imagine in a few years the level of power needed for games is going to outpace what the 360 can currently handle and people are going to have to upgrade to whatever xbox’s next gen is.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

its not the hard drive, so much as processing power

and yes once the next gen comes around, maybe i’ll go back to PS if they learn from their mistakes. Remember until very recently the PS2 was still outselling the PS3, even though the graphics capabilities weren’t as good, just because the value and game selection was better. The game selection for the 360 provides everything i’m looking for, so I’m not in any hurry to switch over. Also, I have the prospect of Project Natal to look forward to, although i’ll wait it out and see if it ends up with a bunch of crappy shovelware games likes the Wii has. On a side note, I find the Wii the most tragic misuse of a cool new idea in gaming. Instead of integrating the motion sensing technology into games in a natural way, its forced into game mechanics where it doesn’t belong, and most games have devolved into “shake this controller as fast as you can at your tv… look you’re having fun now, right?” So much potential, such poor execution.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

My point was more

that the new xbox will probably have to come out a few years earlier than the new ps will to keep up with technology. The game selection for the 360 provided everything in the last 2 years, but I would imagine more and more in the next 2-3 years you’ll see more PS3 exclusives, like LA Noire and Uncharted, and God of War III although it was ps exclusive to begin with the engine they’ve invented for it probably couldn’t be used on the 360, as the technology becomes more wide spread and more game developers take advantage of it. So even if you saved money buying the 360 you’ll have to upgrade sooner than you will with the ps3, so you’ll end up spending more money to buy the next gen xbox, because developers will probably abandon publishing for the 360 earlier, in favor of whatever the new gen is, before they abandon developing for the ps3.

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

LA Noire is going to be multiplatform

and usually, games that are on both systems look better and run better on the Xbox. The Orange Box is a perfect example of that. A spectacular series of games, Half Life 2, Half Life 2 episode 1 & 2, Portal and Team Fortress (in case you didn’t know what The Orange Box was) that ran very smoothly with quick loading times on the 360 took forever to run on the PS3. Oblivion looked better on the 360, Fallout 3, GTA IV, pretty much any game released on both consoles. If you look at first party games though, nothing on the 360 can really compare with Uncharted 1 & 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4. The problem here is that it’s still hard for third party developers to work with the PS3 while the 360 is an easier platform to make games for.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that because of the PS3

or because of cultural differences? I’ve heard similar things with the Wii mostly because of Nintendo having all sorts of weird rules and restrictions American developers didn’t want to deal with.

Bayonetta was the same way I think running a lot worse on the PS3.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think so

Uncharted is developed in America and Metal Gear is Japanese so they aren’t having a problem. I think the difficulty was making it on blu-ray. The PS3 uses an new processor while the 360 is just a more advanced Xbox I believe.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

so does that make my xbox a sunk cost? :-D

I see your point, but by the time it matters I plan to have a job that pays much better than Grad Student, so I’ll be less inclined to care about having to replace my system a bit earlier. And for every exclusive PS3 has, there are some equally enticing ones for the xbox like Halo, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Star Ocean, Fable, and a lot of Square-Enix games. Right now the quality is equal for the two, and the price was better on Xbox. I still love my PS2 though.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Current hard drive?

Do you mean processor, because my 360 has a larger hard drive than my PS3. And Xbox is fine. They are releasing Natal at the end of this year and Sony is releasing their motion controllers. There probably won’t be a new generation of systems until 2013 at the earliest, and both Microsoft and Sony have said that they want the 360 and PS3 to have a 10 year life cycle, so it may be even 2015 before we the next installments.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I have both and I play both

Right now I’m making m way through Mass Effect 1 (will be getting 2 very soon) and Demon’s Souls which is the hardest game in the history of mankind. Plus, next month, God of War 3. I cannot wait to play God of War 3.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ME1 was a fun game

although I found combat in the vehicle a bit boring and oversimplictic. I’ll get around to ME2, but with Final Fantasy XIII coming to my doorstep in a couple weeks, i’m going to be pretty busy soon.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Riding around in the Mako is repetitive

but I saw a review that said it’s not even in Mass Effect 2 at all. The story telling is great though, probably the best outside of Uncharted 1&2 and Metal Gear Solid. But unlike Metal Gear Solid, it makes sense.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard mixed things about FFXIII

I’m hoping more news about Versus becomes available and they release it before I turn 30.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm an RPG junkie

I play them all, so even if FFXIII is awful i’ll play it and love every minute. That said, it seems like they’re returning to the more classical turn based RPG approach, which I actually like. We’ll see how it goes. I’m guessing it will be pretty good though. They haven’t released a bad FF in quite a while.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Oblivion is the greatest RPG of all time

I love RPGs as well, yet for some reason I never played a Final Fantasy game. I prefer action rpgs over turn based ones though.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Final Fantasy VII is the greatest RPG of all time.

And, Suikoden is the greatest RPG series of all time…Of all time…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

the original fall outs?

Though the original suikoden was one of my favorite rpgs ever.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in the process of playing Suikoden 3 for like the 3rd time right now.

I shut the game off before logging on here just now.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol I'm playing assassins creed as I type

I haven’t played a pure rpg in a long time, just because none of the newer ones have been that fun to me. The last one I really played for like pro-longed periods of time was probably FF7 like 2 years ago.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I always hoped they'd put Final Fantasy VII

on the PSN or XBLA so I could play it. Maybe I’ll just download it one day.

The thing I love about Oblivion (and Fallout 3) is that you can go anywhere and do anything at any time. I could actually say San Andreas, my favorite game ever, is the best RPG since it does have some RPG elements in it, but that may be stretching it.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

San Andreas is probably my favorite game

Just because of how big and expansive it was, like I know GTA4 was pretty well received critically but after San Andreas it was kind of a let down for me. I’m hoping LA Noire is like the San Andreas of this generation, it’s supposed to be bigger than any open world game rockstar has developed.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked GTA4

but it was definitely a huge letdown, nowhere near as good as San Andreas. I’m looking forward to all of Rockstar’s upcoming games, LA Noire, Red Dead Redemption and Agent.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn't heard about Agent

Red Dead Redemption looks pretty awesome but the premise, wild west, doesn’t interest me nearly as much 1940s LA. But now that I’ve wikipediad agent I’m excited about it too, I love spy/assassination premises and since alpha protocol keeps getting pushed back there hasn’t been a new one to be excited about in a while.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If one of those games can be awesome, I'll be happy

LA Noire probably does look like it’ll be the best one though.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

fallout 3 is like crack

i’m playing back through it using only unarmed as a challenge.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 20, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't wait for New Vegas later this year

So far this generation, I’d say Bethesda has two of the best 5 or so games to come out. I think I beat Oblivion 3 times and Fallout 3 twice, doing pretty much every mission I can. I have to go back and play Fallout 3 again, because my brother downloaded some of the DLCs and when I went to open my game both of my files were gone. In the second game I did every mission in the game and had as perfect a character you could have up to that point. I was so disheartened I couldn’t even play.

by Evan_S on Feb 20, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

this

there’s two reasons I switched to a part-time law student and pushed my graduation back a semester. Fallout 3 was one of them.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually love turn based too

but I’ve heard the new one was much lessed turned based and mostly in real time, also you only control one character and if he dies it’s game over even if the other characters are still alive, but i’ve mostly heard good reviews about the battle system.

I used to be a huge jrpg junkie and virtually worship at the altar of squeenix, but just haven’t really enjoyed an FF game since 9, 10 was a great game for numerous reasons but the characters annoyed me and the story seemed so convoluted so I could never really get into it, similarly with ff12, I didn’t really like 8 either. And i’ve been kind of meh on most of their games since the last new gen(xbox, ps2, etc), except Kingdom Hearts. Plus they copyrighted the name Chrono Break and got my hearts for another Chrono Trigger game up and then let it expire, which broke my little 12-14 year old heart at the time to epic proportions. I might get 13 used in a few months if the cost drops, but at this point it’s near the bottom of my games to buy list and most things I’ve heard say the story is weaker than usual which makes me even less excited. I’m hoping Versus is the game that restores my faith in them before I turn fully into a COD/Halo/online multiplayer shooter junkie.

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

There's still Chrono Cross, right?

Ugh, what a crappy game…

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I like chrono cross

I think as long as you weren’t expecting another chrono trigger it was a solid game…but I’d really like another chrono trigger squeenix. I mean you can make 34513531 final fantasies, 32532532 dragon warriors, you can make 32523 star oceans (who even plays those), you can make 30 crappy games no one really cares about for the ps2/xbox, but you can’t just make a third game, or fourth technically, for one of your most popular franchises? I mean apparently even parasite eve is getting another installment, but no chrono trigger?

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You liked Chrono Cross?

Surprising. Personally, the only redeeming quality it had was the relatively large amount of recruitable characters, Kidd and Glen. Other than those aspects, I felt it had a fairly weak storyline, and was generally pissed off at the fact that it gave us a conclusion as to what happened to Schala. I prefered the whole, “lost in the time stream never to be seen or heard from again” schpiel. Radical Dreamers was better.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i liked chrono cross

as long as you don’t try to compare it to chrono trigger it was a fun game. Not much can live up to the original, but the story of CC was decent and the gameplay was fun.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 20, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

How dare you? I played Star Ocean.

I stopped halfway through, but that’s not important haha.
That’s poor Gina, that’s poor.

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Feb 19, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Star Ocean : Till the end of Time

is an awesome game, I highly recommend it to those of you with PS2s.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 20, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah that's one of the games I got halfway through

or so and sort of lost interest, it wasn’t a bad game by any means, I was just sort of disillusioned with the current gen rpgs at that point. The only one I really sort of liked was Jade Empire.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 20, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I really enjoyed it

but I’ve always liked the Star Ocean games (no matter what some commenters may say about them). I thought it was the best of the series. Lost Odyssey is fun as well on the 360, but I will agree they don’t make them like they used to (FF3, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Earthbound, Shining Force, etc…)

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 20, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the mid-to-late 90’s had the best RPGs. That was the Golden Age.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 20, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Super Mario RPG is still awesome

One of the best Mario games and I still have no idea who Gino or Mallow is.

by Evan_S on Feb 20, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I still have my old SNES at my dad's.

And most of our games: Chrono Trigger, Mario RPG, FF3, Ogre Battle. I can break away from Morrowind, I might break them out.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 21, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, going to law school and not being able to afford a $600 dollar video game system was a poor life decision

I don’t even have an HD TV yet – the only reason I’m not still playing PS2 is b/c my grandparents gave me $500 bucks for my 23rd birthday and I was depressed about the ’07 collapse so I decided to blow it on an Xbox.

I’m planning on getting a PS3 by the end of 2010, however.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if you're only 23-25

then you have young viable organs, you couldn’t have sold one?

s’wat I thot.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

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by Gina on Feb 20, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a job now

I figured buying a PS3 when I don’t even have an HD TV was kinda pointless, since half the awesomeness of it is that it’s also a BluRay player. I just bought my girlfriend an HD TV and we’re moving in together in a few months, so my next big purchase will be a PS3 + The Show + Metal Gear Solid 4. Other than those games, though, there’s nothing for PS3 that I want to play that I can’t already play for Xbox. Maybe over the next few years that will change, but by then I’ll have the PS3 and will fondly remember my time with only an Xbox.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Metal Gear Solid 4 is such a great game.

Confusing as hell, but great. I was actually almost able to make sense of what was going on, but I got lost again after the 38 hour cutscene at the end of the game.

by Evan_S on Feb 20, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The best part about Reyes being on the cover

Was that I got a free Jose Reyes MLB 2K8 bobblehead doll from the game, which sits prominently on my desk.

"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez

by OSUmets on Feb 19, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

On Inglorious Basterds

that first scene with the general and the milk and the people under the floor…just an awesome scene. Christoph Waltz should win best supporting actor, hands down.

by Mackey Sasser on Feb 19, 2010 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah he was pretty much the best thing about that movie.

I mean, good movie, but he was just awesome.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That first scene was so tense

I was holding my breath. Waltz was perfect, one of the great movie villains of all time.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This just in

the Academy has retroactively nominated Ferngullies for the 1992 Best Picture Award, to maintain a level of consistency.

Seriously, though, it bothers me that a year after movies like Wall-E, The Wrestler, and even The Dark Knight weren’t even nominated for best picture, Avatar is the favorite. This was a weaker year, overall (Frost/Nixon pwns anything released this year), but not so weak that Avatar should have even been guaranteed a spot in the ridiculous 10 nominees, let alone be considered anywhere near the top overall film.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 19, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

I have no idea why Wall-E wasn't nominated and I have no idea what the wrestler is

but from my understanding the Dark Knight wasn’t nominated because the source, comic books, did not have “proper artistic integrity” or something.

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The Wrestler was pretty awesome.

Highly recommended.

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by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

Requiem For a Dream, however, made me queasy. Still a good movie, tho.

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by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

its one of the most visceral movies i've ever seen

I felt awful after watching it, which immediately made it one of my favorite movies, because really how often do you have that kind of emotional reaction to a movie.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally.

I wouldn’t say it’s one of my favorites, but it certainly left a mark. You certainly don’t run across that very often.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the things I hate about the Academy Awards

is the lack of respect given to foreign films. Pan’s Labyrinth was the best movie of 2006 and it wasn’t even nominated. I loved The Departed, but Pan’s Labyrinth was better, and don’t even get me started on how much I loathed Babel. I’m sure plenty of people will disagree with me on that one. And the biggest mistake of all was not nominating City of God in the 2004 awards. After the Lord of the Rings trilogy, City of God is the best film of the decade and it didn’t get anything.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand the love

for City of God. Everyone I meet loves the movie and thought it was life changing. I just don’t understand it. Oldboy is life changing. Not City of God, IMO.

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The only response I have for this is

Oldboy is in my instant queue and I will watch it soon.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

it's in my Instant queue too

I’m waiting for the gf to have a night out because I don’t think she’d appreciate it from what I’ve heard.

The hammer fight is supposed to be epic.

by hotspur on Feb 19, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

in fact when it comes out in America...

I’m sure you’ll see how cliche it could have been

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a U.S. remake coming out?

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so

IMDbPro only, so I don’t know what it’s about.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

from imdbpro

“An everyday man has only five days and limited resources to discover why he was imprisoned in a nondescript room for 15 years without any explanation. "

Rumor has it Will Smith was attached, and that everything that made the original special will be taken out.

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Will Smith?

Yep. That’ll be worse.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

What's wrong with Will Smith?

He’s become an excellent actor. I do agree though that the remake idea is pretty stupid and I haven’t even seen the original.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i have less issue with will smith and more issue with the remake, especially when i heard how watered down it was.

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he works for the particular role.

Having seen the original.

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by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, okay

I didn’t know you had seen it

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

My understanding is that it's been shelved indefinitely.

Also, the US remake would be based on the manga which Oldboy was based, not the movie itself. Because anyone who’s seen the movie knows there’s no way you can remake that movie in Hollywood without changing the entire 3rd act.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 20, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

I know it’s part of a trilogy and that its about a guy seeking revenge or something. I’ve heard it’s really good and I don’t have any genre preference. Good is good.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I really need to start posting from work

The trilogy is only thematic; there’s no recurring characters or storylines in Oldboy, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, or Lady Vengeance. Definitely recommend watching them all, though. Really amazing films, all three of them.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 20, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think there's any specific order for watching them.

But most people probably watch Oldboy first. It’s the most well-known, and I don’t want to say it’s the flashiest, but there’s nothing like the hallway fight in the others.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 20, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Caveat

I’ve only seen city of god once, so I may need to see it again.

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Pans Labyrinth

was not that good. I am sorry.

The ending was weak. It was good, but not even close to best picture.

City of God was great. I agree it should have been nominated. Million Dollar Baby was a great movie as well though, and Clint is da man.

by gbaked on Feb 19, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Million Dollar Baby was terrible

Spoiler Alert* I loved it up until she broke her neck, from that point on it was one of the worst things ever and completely ruined the beginning which was so good.

And Pan’s Labyrinth was great through and through. The ending just adds to the whole question as to whether or not what happened was real or not.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

wtf she broke her neck?

I never saw it, but now I’m glad I didn’t, that’s kind of thing in movies that makes me angry.

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by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The worst part of it was that there was still like an hour and a half left after that point.

And how she broke her neck was so stupid, a cheap shot after the bell rung. It was really bad.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

putting the ending to a best picture winner

out there like that is just wrong dude. If I hadnt seen it already, I would be really really pissed.

by gbaked on Feb 19, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's YEARS old

And a major plot point, and as illustrated above, colors the whole response to the film. If you can’t discuss it, you can’t discuss the film.

by SuperT on Feb 19, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

don't get mad at me

but Vito Corleone dies at the end of the Godfather. And Humphrey Bogart makes Ingrid Bergman get on the plane at the end of Casablanca.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And

scar killed mufasa

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by Gina on Feb 20, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

god Citizen Kane was boring

i know its a classic and all, but it was so hard to get through.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 20, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I loved it. The only problem I have with it, was that at the beginning when he said “Rosebud” just before he died, there was no one who could have possibly heard it. He whispered it, there was no one in the room. The nurse supposedly is the one heard it, but she doesn’t come in until after the snow globe breaks. Maybe I missed something later in the film that explains what happened. It has been a while since I’ve seen it.

by Evan_S on Feb 20, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Later in the film, his butler (I think)

says he was in the room to hear his last words, but you never see anyone in there except Kane during the scene. I don’t remember if you ever see the entire room or not, so it might just be the way Welles shot the scene. But yeah, it’s always struck me as a surprising oversight on his part.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 21, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

well...

we will have to agree to disagree here.

as a photographer/cinematographer… million dollar baby was fantastic. Absolutely stunning. The subtile things Clint Eastwood does as a director is perfect. Whats her name also delivered an amazing performance.

Pans Labyrinth was a good movie. dont get me wrong here. I enjoyed it. I just felt the ending was too “hollywood.” Everything just worked out so perfect. smile. barf.

by gbaked on Feb 19, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

How did it work out perfect?

The ending is very controversial and open to interpretation. I would say the very opposite, I would say the ending is very sad.

by Evan_S on Feb 19, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

personally

i’m not a fan of the ending. But if you’re religious you probably love it. The entire movie is a metaphor for heaven which is cool i guess, just not for me. Plus movies that take place in a characters head that aren’t written by charlie kaufmen tend to annoy me.

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was more about how this child had to withdraw into her own imaginary world

to deal with the horrible things going around her. I didn’t see it as a metaphor for heaven so much as how a child withdraws into her imagination to try to come to terms with the horrors she faces every day. I don’t really see it as having a very strong religious overtone, and I definitely didn’t see it as a happy ending so much as a very sad ending through the filter of how the girl is trying to rationalize it.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 20, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I define it as a happy ending.

Not the part about the little girl dying, but when those bastard Facists get what’s coming to them? I nearly stood up and cheered when that happened.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 21, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrestler > THL

imo…but I need to watch the hurt locker again before i stand by that opinion

by Mike Clemente on Feb 19, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

an original movie based off a comic book character doesn't have enough "artistic integrity"

but a remake of Ferngullies in 3d does? The Academy Award boggles my mind more than the Mets front office.

Also, rent the Wrestler, like, right now. One of the best movies I’ve seen in years. The fact that Mickey Rourke didn’t win Best Actor is probably the biggest Oscar disgrace of the decade (in a decade where swill like “Gladiator” actually won Best Picture – that’s saying something.)

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Reyes and Santana

Maybe if they spend more time on shaving cream pie antics instead of dancing and handshakes, the Mets will win a World Series.

by Reg Dunlop on Feb 19, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

You know what Reyes should to make himself awesome?

Get a gap tooth. That’s what real winners do. Stupid loser cares more about his teeth than winning.

Seriously though, that Baseball Daily Digest article was just awful. The sad part though is you see essentially the same stuff written about the Mets in the Philadelphia Enquirer and it’s called journalism.

On an unrelated note…. it probably doesn’t deserve to win, but no love for District 9???

by Syler on Feb 19, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

Unattractive facial features=win!!!

Have you seen the size of Howard’s nose? That guy is a team player.

by Prince on Feb 19, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

My second-favorite movie of the year

Extremely well done. It is fantastic that it was nominated.

"F***ing shocker." -Billy Wagner

by nymgb44 on Feb 19, 2010 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Our names suck, people.

We need a Jayson, with a y. Or a guy named Chase. Or Shane. They have a Cole and a Placido and some dude who goes by his initials. INITIALS!!!

You can’t win with Jason (no y). Jeff, Luis, Jose, David, Carlos, Josh??? BORING. And a first baseman named Dan? Who the hell names their kid Dan? Good thing we have an Angel or it’d be yawn city.

by Dan Lewis on Feb 19, 2010 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

What we need to do

is bring Endy, Orlando, Xavier and Moises back. That was the real key to our success 06-08. Plus we had two guys named Carlos so even though the name was still lame it’s powers were multiplied by 2.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 19, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

remember we also have

an R.A., a Kelvim, a Ryota, and numerous other nonstandard names

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 19, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Jenrry, anyone?

that sounds like a Bajoran name

by hotspur on Feb 19, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...Looking at non-foreign names, we have:

Clint (Everts). Sounds grissiony.

Tobi (Stoner). Toby with a ‘y’ isn’t cool, but using an ‘i’ at the end makes it awesome.

Angel (Pagan). A great contradiction if there ever was one…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 20, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not really a contradiction

A Pagan is just a general term for polytheists, and last I checked Christians believe in two or three gods.

by Evan_S on Feb 20, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

"(Titanic) which was inferior to other nominees (L.A. Confidential, Good Will Hunting)."

I just called my mate in Australia (lets call him Russ C) and he agrees with your assesment of Titanic and that “that wanker Cameron can go $^& himself and stick that gold plated $#$ right up his arse.”

He seems to have taken LA Confidential’s loss rather well. That was a damn good movie.

"Wait till Biggus Dickus hears about this!"

by scott from peekskill on Feb 19, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

James,

you really must have got hurt bill’s feelings, he posted a rebuttal to you at crahsburn alley basically calling you a troll and using his twisted logic to debate your points. Most of which he has taken out of context. He really sounds like a bitter man with a sandy vagina. Truth is the phillies have as good a chance as the Mets of winning a world series, which is zero, because the yankees got much better.

by Delgado on Feb 19, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, wow. Somebody's feelings were hurt.

I didn’t realize that “reading something posted on the internet and then writing a rebuttal/comment about it at a different website” was now defined as “trolling.”

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

THERE'S NO SAND IN MY VAGINA!!!

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Feb 19, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He quotes his own article out of context

I believe that is something you would call dumb

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I posted a rebuttal to the post, as did firejerrynow

Of course, both comments were deleted, with the pro-Phillies posts staying up, and then he closed the post

The guy clearly can’t handle criticism

by Syler on Feb 19, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

wow he acted quickly

I posted my comments at like 3:05
I lobby for the site to be boycotted. He called us “youtube commenters”

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

3 things I really hate about that article

he says AA is a joke blog but says lookout landing and beyond the box score are good blogs, but they aren’t team blog just baseball stats blogs. To me that is completely illogical.

he was trolling himself by posting some of our comments from yesterdays applesauce while accusing James of being a troll

his rebuttal about reyes has to do with James being biased when there are statistics that prove what Jose has done on the the field. NUmbers don’t lie.

by Delgado on Feb 19, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, what was your comment?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

I just wrote a third calling him out from his original piece about feeling free to comment. The guy is a troll.

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

someone called JR wrote another comment
#

By JR on Feb 19, 2010

Hey, buddy, what happened to freedom of speech?

You= Make half-assed and assuming statements about Mets players

James K= Makes rebuttal

You= Call him a troll and talk about how stupid he is

Other rebuttals= You delete them

Man up, and take some criticism

I would rec it if I could

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

He just closed the article.

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 19, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

That’s pretty weak, considering how he mentions the opportunity for Mets fans to comment on his original post but we only like the echo chamber blah blah etc.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 19, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

here's a link for posterity

Crashburn Alley goes off the rails

Yeah, there’s a single SB Nation editorial policy, and it’s “give Bill Baer a hard time.” It couldn’t possibly be that you were being a dumbass and then you got psychotically defensive, lining up weak post-hoc arguments and defending every little throwaway joke as though it were a deep, hard-won insight. Jesus.

by anonymous on Feb 19, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

What a douche.

Bigger than Shane Victorino.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The water?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And, is it me, or...

Does it look like the guy on the far right (I can’t tell who that is) is wearing a jersey that says ‘Dick’?

More proof, I guess…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoops, that didn't work. Let's try again...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The Reyes thing...

I can see how you could perceive it as being selfish for him trying to come back. I disagree with it, but nobody other than Jose knows for sure why he wanted to come back last year, so whatever. The Johan handshake thing – I assumed he was making a bad joke, until he tried to defend it. His defense made no sense. I’m pretty sure that Johan can walk and chew gum at the same time.

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Feb 19, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It's an absurd claim when in the very same article

He discusses the unparalleled grittiness of Rollins and Utley being willing to risk their personal health diving to make a catch.

Not to mention using the fact that a couple of Philly position players are already at camp to demonstrate Philly leadership, when half our team is already at camp. We lack the leadership, though. It’s handshakes, or celebratory antics, or something, I don’t know. It was hard to find the point.

The man is a veritable pretzel.

by SuperT on Feb 19, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Baer is a massive douchebag (sorry if that is a snide comment)

If James is a troll, than Baer is a troll.
About Jose. If he doesn’t come back he is a wimp without dedication and grit. If he does he is selfish for wanting to prove he isn’t a wimp. Either way it can be portrayed badly. " I also linked to an article with quotes Reyes’ mindfulness of these criticisms. He attempted to return from a hamstring injury prematurely in an attempt to silence his critics. That is blatantly obvious." I don’t think that is blatantly obvious at all. In the article Reyes says he doesn’t know why people don’t think he wants to be on the field. He doesn’t say that is why he wants to come back. He also says he wants to come back so that he can regain confidence in his running ability.
I would like Baer to address Howard’s commercial appearances; obviously Howard could make better use of his time and be more productive.
“I recognize Reyes as one of the premier players in baseball when he’s healthy, and I admire his work ethic and loyalty to the Mets organization.” Really? But he is still “known more for his celebratory antics than anything he’s accomplished on the field”?

by EtSuKe on Feb 19, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, I got quoted in that article!

Also, I love that he compared us to YouTube commenters. I KNEW amazin avenue’s comment section seemed familiar. Now I know why

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

On Avatar

Visually, it was absolutely stunning. I mean, WOW. I have never been that immersed in a movie before. Early on I actually had hope that it would be as incredible as advertised because of how well the character of Jake Sully was developed initially. But in the end, the script was tired and unoriginal, the acting subpar, and the contrivances abound. The Hurt Locker was the best picture of the year, followed by the incredibly underrated District 9 and Inglourious Basterds. I have seen all but Precious and An Education but I doubt they top THL.

"F***ing shocker." -Billy Wagner

by nymgb44 on Feb 19, 2010 3:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

LeBron James = Loser

Have you ever seen the handshakes the Cavaliers do? No wonder they’ve lost 12 games this year.

by Bieser's Balk on Feb 19, 2010 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

definitely. No wonder they're competing for the top pick in the draft

wait, Lebron James plays in the NFL, right? 12 losses is terrible, right? No??? hmmm

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

james, great article

i would disagree with your assessment of bill baer as a solid writer who normally does great work. i would consider him more of a spasmodic hack who consistently sucks at life. i’m not surprised that he posted that horribly lame and lengthy rebuttal on his awful website. it also looks like he’s let his pageviews go to his head too since i dont remember him being this conceited. personally i think he is mildly autistic, and i’m not even joking.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Feb 19, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

The Oscar goes to...

Your analysis of The Hurt Locker, Avatar, and Inglorious Basterds was typical subjective MSM claptrap.

Presenting a purely objective statistica lanalysis, Fangraphs has a new stat, Bathroom Visits Over Replacement Picture (BVORP) that proves that “Couples Retreat” was actually the Best Picture of 2009.

by Mex_17 on Feb 19, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

-100

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 20, 2010 5:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...I thought Festivus was in December....
Some light airing of grievances:

“I’ve got a lot of problems with you people…now you’re going to hear about it!!”

sorry, my mind went straight to Seinfeld after that first line.

by Steve Schreiber on Feb 20, 2010 12:27 AM EST reply actions  

One good thing about Mike Jacobs

he is JACKED. He would definitely be a good representative in the feats of strength. Against Shane Victorino.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Feb 20, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This thread is full of epic win

Video games, movies, the Mets, all on one awesome post. In conclusion, f*ck that Crashburn Alley guy.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Feb 20, 2010 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

f him up his stupid a

NOW YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS THE BALL LICKER

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Feb 20, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

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