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do you work? If so I bet you haven’t got too much done lately. Amazin’ Avenue appreciates your contributions.

by Delgado on Feb 5, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

It's good to see Omar's at least "working". He's doing something, however ineffective it is...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 5, 2010 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

In all seriousness

I would tend to think he spent a solid 60-70% of his time trying to trade Castillo. He was definitely working on trades that obviously didn’t pan out. If I remember correctly, he wasn’t particularly enthralled by the free agent market to begin with. In his interviews towards the beginning of the offseason, his quotes made it seem like he was looking towards the trade market rather than the free agent market. I can’t blame him, but he ignored the free agent market more than he should of.

I can’t really take the beat writers seriously when they say “well, he only concentrates on one item at a time.” Aren’t there other team officials doing some of the legwork to gauge markets? And it’s not like he’s always been like this—in 2006, he signed Billy Wagner and traded for Carlos Delgado on successive days. Obviously he had to multitask or divide the work amongst his staff to pull that off.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Feb 5, 2010 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

It's not just beat writers

there seems to be a general consensus, there’s been reports of agents saying the same thing about this specific off-season, that they’ve been doing everything one by one.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 5, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

All the more reason to believe that management is planning on showing him the door shortly.

They don’t want him to get all involved with things, so they want him to confer with them on free agent prices one-by-one and only do one thing at a time. The only question is, why retain him, if that’s how things are going to be?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 5, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The use of "management" in any sentence about the Mets

is an insult to managers everywhere.

you know what I'm sayin' ?

by fxcarden on Feb 5, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Why retain him?

Because Jeff likes to play GM, while having a cardboard-cutout Omar to put out front to take any flack.

by SuperT on Feb 5, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone wake up Freddie plz =/

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 5, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

True

it’s like they took an idea and ran with it. As putrid as this front office is, it really doesn’t seem believable. Omar negotiated with Bengie Molina all day and night? It just doesn’t seem believable.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Feb 5, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it also came with reports

that he had to get every offer pre-approved by Jeff because Jeff never gave him a set budget. So I imagine it went more like Omar called Jeff got a number, called Molina’s agent’s gave him the number, Molina’s agent countered, Omar called Jeff, Jeff was watching a Hannah Montana marathon so Omar was on hold for 5 hours, Omar finally got to Jeff gave him the number Molina’s agent said, Jeff said no too much, Omar asked him can I counter with this number, Jeff said okay, Omar called back Molina’s agent gave him the new number, Molina’s agent said no and countered with another number, Omar called back Jeff, and so on and so forth.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 5, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but that took weeks on end?

And about the not having a set budget that Heyman reported—that could also be wrong, since now the Mets apparently “have no money left to spend.” If that were the case, then obviously there was a budget. If that’s wrong and the Mets don’t have a budget, then I think they’re willing to spend the money if it’s worth it. They just didn’t think that the available free agents were worth it at their prices.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Feb 5, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't that the mets had no set budget

it was that Jeff hadn’t given Omar a number to work with and instead was having him run each deal by him. And even though heyman reported the not being given a budget other writers have reported the Omar only dealing one at a time thing, Ted Berg posted an article about it on his blog about it.

And if this team thought Cora and Frenchy were worth their prices but the other FA’s weren’t worth the prices they’ve signed for then I’d say the front office has some pretty big issues.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 5, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I would tend to think

that Omar needed to run each deal by him regardless of the budget. That is, if it’s a puppet regime.

You know it’s funny—considering the way “grit” is made fun of around here—they went out of their way to construct a gritty team. Those two players were worth it, to them, because of their perceived grit. It’s interesting, really. They accepted a loss of talent for an increase in “grit.” I guess the team was receptive to their past (stupid) criticisms.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Feb 5, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it'd be funnier if we weren't mets fans

but I guess we gotta find entertainment where we can these days.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 5, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it's not "haha funny"

I just think it’s kind of interesting that they’re receptive to their criticisms, almost to a fault. It’s good and bad—instead of listening to WFAN they should be tuning in to a more intelligent crowd.

On a side note, I’m awfully tired of speculative analysis at this point, and I’m quite ready to start the season, for better or worse.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on Feb 5, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

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