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Pelfrey doesn’t blame his weight for last season’s troubles — he says he got to 257 pounds at one point last summer and will arrive in Port St. Lucie around 230 — but also knows that better shape physically translates into a better mental approach.

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And so it begins

They couldn’t even wait until anyone actually shows up at camp. What a scoop.

Next year I’ll expect one of these stories before Christmas.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Feb 9, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

hey

At least he actually lost weight.

by Olde Isle Mets Fan on Feb 9, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It has to be after xmas.

Thats where they add the 25 lbs.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 9, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It's sad if Pelfrey really thinks he had a terrible year last season

I guess it’s cool if it motivates him or something, and it’s not like he can just kill the defense behind him, but I hope he doesn’t buy into that nonsense of him taking a huge step back

by Bieser's Balk on Feb 9, 2010 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

Well, Pelf certainly did not have a good year either, but yeah his defense torched him about one run on his ERA. A 4.39 FIP isn’t good either.

by Coolpapabell on Feb 9, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

its not spectacular but its not awful either

and if he was at all aware of how the defense was costing the team, it could have had some impact on his pitch selection. I know i’d avoid anything that could go back up the middle if I had combinations like Castillo and Cora/Berroa behind me

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 9, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but his tra and xFIP were worse

and more in line with his “career”, which is like all of 2 years, xFIP and tra.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 9, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but ...

he was supposed to be our solid number 2 behind Johan and he certainly was not that. Unless he really turns things around, he destined probably to be a 4 or a 3 at best IMHO. He didn’t develop any of secondary or tertiary pitches and when he got in trouble, he blew up.

I’ll need to see a big improvement from him in both his execution of pitches and mental toughness on the mound to have any confidence in him.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Feb 10, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone except for the Mets front office trying to hype him

honestly believed, at any point so far in his career, that Mike Pelfrey is a “number two” starting pitcher.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 10, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

You didn't spend enough time at metsblog

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 10, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I take it, Mike Pelfrey was supposed to be an ace, and because he "sucked" this year, we need to trade him ASAP?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 10, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't been on it this year

So I don’t know if he’s been downgraded to total bust suck yet. But a lot of them in the 09 off-season expected him to be a high #2.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

In the Metsblog world, so I've heard,

I’m sure there’s a considerable population that thinks we can trade Pelfrey and Castillo for Phillips, Cueto, and Volquez, so I guess it’d work out in any case, keep him because he’s an ace, or trading him because he’s a total wash…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

give the guy a real middle infield and i'll bet he looks much better

maybe not a #2 but a strong #3 (even though those numbers are kind of meaningless). He had the lowest LD% and the highest GB% of his career, his K/9 was up last year, his BB/9 rate seems to be stabilizing around 3 somewhere, and a .321 BABIP wasn’t particularly kind to him. His HR/9 is <1, which, while slightly elevated, is still pretty reasonable. He’s a good pitcher who can’t use his best stuff properly because ground balls went from a blessing to a liability last year. I think Pelf has a higher ceiling than most people give him credit for anymore.

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 10, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think this qualifies him

I have been keeping an eye out for ITBSOHL, and some have com real close, bu t no one has come out and said or written.

So far O.P., GMJ, Murphy, and now Pelf, have thrown their hat in the race, but none has yet to drop those famous words yet. Give it time.

by Coolpapabell on Feb 9, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

An AA Meme strikes again!

The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL

The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back

The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: It's Kovy Time!

by R_Adragna on Feb 9, 2010 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

i wonder how such a tall dude gets in shape?

just a lot off running? treadmill? stairmaster? eliptical machine? i’d personally love to see pelfey brun a few calories on a gazelle, just for fun.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Feb 9, 2010 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

Mike

it’s not your fault for a 5 ERA. It’s the defence. You are fine otherwise, just hurt Luis Castillo and get Lopez signed

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 9, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

NO

if he hurts castillo will just get cora for 162 games, plus his option will vest.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Feb 9, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Pelfrey

advocated keeping Cora around for his clubhouse presence. Maybe having Cora on the field helps Pelfrey because he knows he can’t let anyone hit the ball to Cora.

by Olde Isle Mets Fan on Feb 9, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

crap forgot about that

We’re stuck with Castillo, aren’t we?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Feb 9, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't help

that his BB and HR rates went up significantly.

by Olde Isle Mets Fan on Feb 9, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Pelf- is going to break out this year...

he’ll become the “2nd ace” of the rotation.

Revis Island

Kobe 24

JoseJoseJose

by AmarDude on Feb 9, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

That'd sure be nice, but...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 9, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And the source of your optimism is .... ???

… the great strides he made last year? His mental toughness on the mound? The development of his devastating 12-6 curveball?

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Feb 10, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

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