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Bernazard's Ridiculous "Oppo" Plan

John Harper at the Daily News wrote about Tony Bernazard's organizational emphasis on hitting the ball to the opposite field, starting after the 2008 season. Before his firing, Bernazard was apparently so obsessed with players "going oppo" that he scolded them when they pulled the ball, even after a base hit. Others in the organization were convinced by this nonsense philosophy, which means one of three things:

(a) No one of consequence in management thought this idea ridiculous;

(b) Bernazard is Svengali-like in his control over others; or

(c) People did realize how dumb this idea was but were afraid of being put in the Bernazard camel clutch belly-to-back suplex if they disagreed.

Unfortunately, none of these choices would surprise if actually true. Rob Neyer opined on this story, writing what is common sense to most fans (I think):

In the 21st century, if you don't pull the ball you're not going to win. It's (mostly) as simple as that.

Hitting the ball where it's pitched seems like the smart play. Trying to hit an inside pitch to the opposite field just for the sake of it is pretty dumb. Did this philosophy change affect Mets hitters? John Walsh at The Hardball Times cooked up a quick study and found that the Mets "pull fraction" was 27th out of 30 teams in MLB in 2009, meaning only three teams pulled the ball less. In the comments to the post, Derek Carty wrote that, per his data, the Mets were 1st in MLB in "push percentage" (percentage of balls hit to the opposite field) after being 5th lowest in 2008. In other words, they went from being an extreme pull-hitting team to an extreme push-hitting team in one season, with minimal roster turnover. Walsh also showed that David Wright, Carlos Beltran, Fernando Tatis and Ryan Church decreased their pull percentage from 2008 to 2009. Luis Castillo, hopefully sticking it to Bernazard, slightly increased his pull percentage. Good for Luis.

The importance of "going to the opposite field" is a mostly empty bromide that doesn't really make any sense but allows "baseball people" to feel smarter than fans and other outsiders to the game. Going the other way in itself is not bad, especially when appropriate, but it seems many analysts immediately point out that the reason a hitter is struggling is because he isn't going oppo, regardless if that's even the case. It's a lazy, go-to cliche that's used often used in lieu of real analysis of a hitter's problems and is up there with the "Mets have to build their team around speed and defense" mantra in terms of pointlessness. Howard Johnson said in the Harper piece that the opposite field philosophy no longer permeates the organization. Also, the infamous 80-pitch drill has disappeared from camp. This is great news and hopefully any lingering Bernazard pearls of wisdom have been excommunicated, much like their creator was this past summer.

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I eagerly await Bernazard 's arrival in Kansas City

I look forward to watching Alex Gordon finally having a 2 home run game, then getting screamed at and tackled by Shirtless Assistant (to the) GM Tony Bernazard

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 1, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

It seems like Jerry, Omar & co. outthunk themselves

I don’t get why the Mets did this exercise. As you alluded to James, it makes sense to “hit the ball where it’s pitched.” Going to the opposite field for no real reason is overkill. Going off what you presented, I think this extreme opposite field approach by the Mets is the primary reason they couldn’t hit HRs last year instead of “Citi Field is a deathtrap!!!”

Coming this April, fun times with Jeff and Gary!

by Brian. on Mar 1, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

to be fair

David Wright obviously needed to change something after his disastrous .302/.390/.534 campaign in 2008.

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 1, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

No Leadership!!!!!!!!

Coming this April, fun times with Jeff and Gary!

by Brian. on Mar 1, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

What a choke artist

look at 2007. I don’t care what the numbers say (ops ~1100) he couldn’t will that team to victory!

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Mar 1, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not entirely convinced that this was all Tony B.

Somehow I have a feeling that Jerry was all for it as well, as he started alluding to it right after he took over for Willie. While it may have been something Tony B believed in, I’d guess that the organization is just trying to assign blame for Jerry’s stupid 80 pitch drill to someone who’s no longer there. Seems like a typical front office type of spin.

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 1, 2010 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

and they're not even that good at spinning it

basically saying they allowed a guy who’s supposed to be concerned with the minor leagues completely dictate their major league organizational approach. i feel like that makes them look much worse than it does Tony B.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 1, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

When you make a time line of all this crap ...

it just makes for such a compelling case, IMHO, for how screwed up this organization is.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Mar 1, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Manuel do that in Chicago as well?

Coming this April, fun times with Jeff and Gary!

by Brian. on Mar 1, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I seem to remember him saying that, but I can't find any article backing that up.

I did find a quote from 2008 that said he wanted Wright to be more liberal with his strikezone.

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 1, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 1, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Bigger question

why is the vice president of player development this involved in training camp to begin with. The mets make my head hurt so much.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 1, 2010 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

I think it goes back

to what Steve Phillips(God help me) said. The Mets don’t have a sole voice that runs everything per se, but it’s a voice here, a voice there etc. & they’re all providing input as to what should be done instead of the GM leading the way.

Coming this April, fun times with Jeff and Gary!

by Brian. on Mar 1, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

who cares where the ball is hit

as long as it is a hit

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Mar 1, 2010 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

holy shit

the stupidity is an endless blackhole of sorrow. continually sucking up the nearby glimmers of hope.

douchion = -(grission)

by HoJoHeff on Mar 1, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Your beautiful poetry is prime evidence ...

that great art is inspired by human tragedy. You are now Knighted as our resident Mets poet laureate,“Sir HoJoNeff.”

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Mar 1, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This makes the coaching staff look like idiots

Either they went along with an incredibly stupid idea or they are so powerless that they can’t actually make decisions for themselves. Either way it’s hard to have faith in these guys.

by Reg Dunlop on Mar 1, 2010 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know that it took this to get there

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah we already had no faith

it’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Those are steps in the right direction, damn it!

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 1, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

Gina, I’m using this quote for my signature. It’s classic.

Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.

by Greenpoint Ian on Mar 2, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

The legend of Tony B. continues to grow.

Perhaps he’ll turn into our version of Keyser Soze, being blamed for everything that goes wrong in the organization, no matter how absurd. Someday, we may find out that Tony was driving Sanchez’ cab, or recommended his favorite all-night Cuban restaurant.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Tony B. disguised himself as Tom Glavine and started Game 162 in 2007.

Tony B. told Carlos Beltran that only a fool would swing at Adam Wainwright’s curveball.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony B might have been right about that curveball.

He wouldn’t have hit that thing anyway.

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 1, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That's poor, Tony B. That's poor.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 1, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer to think of him as Tyler Durden

The shirtless fighting part is obvious, but while Tony B was there, it appears that the first rule of “going oppo” was that you do not talk about “going oppo” (to tell him how stupid an idea it is).

Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.

by Greenpoint Ian on Mar 1, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

If you don't want the end to Fight Club ruined, don't read this

But does that make Tony B. actually Omar all along?

"F***ing shocker." -Billy Wagner

by nymgb44 on Mar 1, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony B is Jeff

Omar is Marla?

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 1, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

holy moly

It;s frightening to think how much omar depended on this guy. Ouote from omar to Mike F
’ the team has a chance this year if they stay healthy and half the philly line up goes down.

by bob c on Mar 1, 2010 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

wait did he actually say that?

cause if he did he’s I want him signed to a ten year extension.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 1, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

what a fakakta organization

please somebody competent buy this team from the wilpons and clean house.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Mar 1, 2010 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

so what do i know this yiddish, hmm?

at least wikipedia would agree that i’m not the only goy to spell it with an F. still forgot the silent R though.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Mar 2, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the beauty

of a language that uses an entirely different alphabet. And oy, am I a shepping naches from this thread.

"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore

by StorkFan on Mar 2, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

One that uses an alphabet without vowels! Screw vowels!

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 2, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

That's why we're better in Jeopardy than in Wheel of Fortune

"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore

by StorkFan on Mar 2, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

For the record,

Yiddish (and Hebrew) actually do have vowels. However, they are in the margins (either below, on top or alongside the letter) as a pronunciation guide. Hebrew prayer books include vowels. However, Torah scrolls and the Talmud do not. Neither do modern Hebrew writings (books, newspapers, magazines, etc.) S thr.

"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore

by StorkFan on Mar 2, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Given that I only know basic Yiddish, and basic Hebrew from school, too often do I combine the two into one mush-most language unintentionally.

Yiddish, being very German, has vowels. It is Hebrew that technically doesn’t have true letters for them, yes.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 2, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Pulling the ball and hitting to opposite field

Both are signs of weakness. Between self indulgence and self denial there is the middle way.

by Pack Bringley on Mar 1, 2010 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

In Other Words

use The Force?

"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore

by StorkFan on Mar 1, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

In keeping up with the 'Yiddish theme', the Schwartz.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 2, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take some liquid Schwartz for the road

"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore

by StorkFan on Mar 2, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for this:

Luis Castillo, hopefully sticking it to Bernazard, slightly increased his pull percentage. Good for Luis.

But seriously, I can only hope this is more gutless blame-the-last-guy-out-the-door stuff from the Mets (and I think it is). The alternative — that they let this clown dictate organizational philosophy (a stupid one at that) — is frightening.

by Bieser's Balk on Mar 1, 2010 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

One more thing...

What also really bothers me is how Harper just blindly transcribes this stuff from HoJo and his “sources within the organization.” Despite the fact it’s incredibly convenient and self-serving (and never came up last year), he apparently just takes it at face value and runs with it. Probably had an early afternoon tee time and couldn’t be bothered with worrying about his sourcess motivations or common sense.

As a columnist he has the latitude to at least point out the agendas at play here, but chooses not to.

by Bieser's Balk on Mar 2, 2010 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

"A fly ball hit to the batter's pull field is more than six times as likely to leave the park as a fly ball hit to center or the opposite field, and flyball BABIP improves by over 50 points to the pull field."

Confessions of a DIPS apostate

Also, the infamous 80-pitch drill has disappeared from camp.

Now replaced by a 40-pitch drill (still all curveballs): 10 oppo, 10 center, 10 pull, 10 freestyle.

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Mar 2, 2010 7:35 AM EST reply actions  

that's not bad though

I mean, like James said, being able to hit the ball the opposite way on outside pitches is a good skill to have, but trying to hit everything the opposite way is just stupid.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Mar 2, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Freestyle, I assume, is where ever you want?

I don’t see a drill where you go opposite, center, pull, and whatever feels the most natural as a bad thing. Sounds good to me.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 2, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Using cheat codes for...MLB 2005 (? The one with Manny on the cover), I enjoyed doing that.

Any hit would automatically be a home run. Somehow, bunts rocketed off of bats, 460 feet into the stands.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 2, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

So I picked up the new version of "The Show" today, and Francoeur is pretty awesome

I was kind of shocked

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 2, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he has all the tools talent/athletiscm wise

It’s more how he puts them together mentally. It’s kind of like how on Madden there’s always qbs with like cannons for arms and all the tools they’re just idiots irl so they go super low in the draft or are at the bottom of depth charts, but when you control them you can make them all-stars.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 2, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually the Barajas/Francouer/Jacobs trifecta at the bottom of the order is really good.

There ratings get hurt a lot because of their free swinging, but that really doesn’t matter when I’m playing. Omar had a hell of a season building a video game roster.

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 2, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe that's the problem?

It’s not that Omar’s behind the times, it’s that he’s TOO advanced and keeps forgetting that he has to actually put Frenchy, Barajas and Jacobs on the field to make their own decisions, and that we can’t build bionic limbs for Moises Alou yet.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 2, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yea, I'd imagine in a game where taking walks is virtually impossible

the difference between Jeff Francouer and, say, Adam Dunn is mostly negated. In fact, depending on his fielding ratings, Francouer may even be a better video game player than Dunn.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Mar 3, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Luis Castillo is virtually worthless.

Nick Johnson is a joke as well.

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If only I could rec this more than once

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 2, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Fangraphs did a pretty good analysis of this theory

Here

Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 2, 2010 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

excuses

Tony Bernazard was also found to be behind the Nolan Ryan trade,drafting Steve Chilcott ahead of Reggie Jackson,the Tom Seaver trade,lending Cleon Jones the van,hiring Art Howe,supplying bleach and firecrackers to players,telling GoodenThe scouting report on Mike Scioscia,started Straw and Doc on recreational drugs as a new way to make new friends,Taught Doug Sisk to throw that sinker.told Beltran to take the curveball,reminded Willie randolph he wasn’t Latin,said to team in 2007 and 2008 no one will catch us and started the new stretching routine in 2009.He was also responsible in teaching the Mets to bat .135 with the bases loaded in 2009.good riddance Tough Tony.

by Putnan Prince on Mar 6, 2010 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

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