Overactive Applesauce - Reyes and Mets disagree over diagnosis, shaky Santana, Davis down on depth chart
by Joe Budd on Mar 10, 2010 8:14 AM EST
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Meet the Mets
Leave it to the Mets to have this type of story involving Jose Reyes' overactive thyroid. The team says he's out indefinitely. Jose Reyes disagrees. Will someone please tell me how this stuff is still happening?
Johan made his debut yesterday, but wasn't exactly sharp, as the Astros beat up on the Mets 8-4. What you should know: David Wright and Ike Davis homered, GMJ picked up three hits, and Santana gave up four runs.
Francisco Rodriguez had the perfect comment in response to Goose Gossage and the New York Post had the perfect headline for it.
Jerry thinks that Jenrry Mejia has a better shot at making the ball club than Ike Davis. Groan.
The Mets kept their receipt and were able to return lefty Jay Marshall.
Around MLB
Some recent high profile debuts. Stephen Strasburg threw two scoreless innings. Aroldis Chapman reached 100 mph, which is kind of a big deal.
Also a big deal for the Twins: Joe Nathan has a bad arm problem.
Two old guys want to stay involved in the game. Omar Vizquel doesn't want to retire next year and Cal Ripken wants to manage.
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Early applesauce is great
But why is Jose trying to save face? I don’t know who to believe.. ugh.
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Overactive sauce- Santana, Reyes, Ripken
santana really didn’t need to be sharp..I like having Al Leiter on MLB every night because he really explains spring traing well. He said the only thing that matter is that Johan throws 35 pitches, and he threw 47 which means he is ahead of schedule.
The Reyes thing is ridiculous, I don’t even understand why he can’t play whether he has an overactive thyroid or not. I am sure man y people go to work everyday with that
Cal Ripken Jr. wants to manage, Hire him, Omar call him and see what it will take, if he wants to start now or next season. This guy is someone who played everyday, we need that kind of mentality
I don't get Gossage
Like during his era, he couldn’t be described as a clown and over-theatrical
by Sokojoe on Mar 10, 2010 9:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nope. Nothing unusual or showy there.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Don't you understand?
Gossage is a YANKEE. A TRUE YANKEE at that. So the normal rules don’t apply.
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
To be fair, he's also criticized Joba Chamberlain for his exuberance.
So I guess Gossage is just an old crank who wants you to GET OFF HIS LAWN!.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
I need to bow before the grission
I think a handle bar mustache kicks the neck beard to the curb.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 10, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno. I mean, this guy had the 'stache but couldn't win a Wacky Race to save his life:
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He couldn't catch that pidgeon, either.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
OT:
Going down to DC with the girlfriend for the cherry blossom festival soon and remember that you took a trip to catch a Mets/Nats game. Any food recommendations (Ben’s Chili Bowl already in the plans.)
I'm not much of a DC expert
So I’ll just say eat a couple of Ben’s half-smokes and then go have some beers at the Brickskeller.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I live in DC
and to be honest, other than Ben’s, there’s really nothing “must-eat” here. It’s just not a great culinary city – there’s great food to be found, but nothing uniquely “Washingtonian.”
2009 Did Not Happen
Thanks for being honest
some people can get pretty defensive about their local grub ie Philly and their sliced steak sandwichs.
to be fair
I’m from NY and I’m damned defensive about New York food. But Philly cheesesteaks are way better than anything in DC.
2009 Did Not Happen
Agreed on the Philly sammiches...
… but I’d say that a Roast Pork Italian on a sub roll from, say, Tony Luke’s (Juicy, thin-sliced pork, sharp provolone, and broccoli rabe) kicks the beejeezus out of anything in the swamp AND steaks besides.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Mar 10, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
a lot depends on where you're staying, and yelp.com is a good resource, too, but...
near enough to the cherry blossoms and close the white house, old ebbitt grill is pretty renowned as a high-powered meeting place and has good food.
i’m not sure where you’re staying or how much travelling around the city you’re trying to do, but away from the cherry blossoms and mall area there are a few great spots:
georgetown is a long, long walk without a car or cab, but zed’s ethopian was my favorite restaurant in dc. its easy to get to relative to the rest of gtown and you can eat with your hands. clyde’s is a bit deeper into gtown but its a good place to get a reasonably priced meal.
off dupont circle, julia’s empanadas are great if you’re out and you’ve had a couple drinks (relatively convenient to the aforementioned brickskeller, they’re each 2-3 blocks off dupont in opposite directions)
On his property, Mr. Frazier has created a number of places to unwind — or as he said, "just chill."
by inventor frank on Mar 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
you won't regret it
and be sure to check out the celebrity photos at the entrance, two of which separately feature mike tyson and hillary clinton
On his property, Mr. Frazier has created a number of places to unwind — or as he said, "just chill."
by inventor frank on Mar 10, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
ah, yea
Old Ebbit’s is good, if somewhat pricey. And Julia’s Empanadas are awesome, but if you get there late at night, you’ll have to wait a while to get one.
Also, if you make it to Adam’s Morgan (and unless you’re in college or looking to re-live college, I can’t see why you would), jumbo slices are pretty great drunk food. Sadly, they’re probably the best tasting non-gourmet pizza in the entire DC area, and they’re huge.
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Me and my dad already looked into going to a Nats/Mets game in D.C.
I didn’t check, but he did, and he said that the only Mets/Nats series during the summer is around July 4th, a time when it’s really not a good idea to be in D.C., for obvious reasons.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Which sucks, I forgot to say.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I was thinking of doing the same
but will be in Japan during said series. And to put salt in the wound, I’ll still be in Japan on July 11th, Jason Bay bobblehead day. My Franks and Billy Wags not-just-for-the-kids bobbleheads will have to wait for company. Of course, the latter is more than made up for by taking a trip to the Yamazaki Distillery in Osaka to make my relaxing time, Suntory time.
Eh, I think a once-in-a-lifetime (at least from my POV) trip to Japan > Mets games.
Now, if you were headed for Beirut during Jason Bay Bobblehead Day, that’d be awesome.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I know, right?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
they always play at annoying times
three years of law school, three times the Mets came to town right in the middle of finals. They also frequently come to down in September, after school starts up again.
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I would recommend
either Lincoln’s Waffle Shop (10th NW) or Pete’s Diner (Capital South) for breakfast, Ben’s clearly, plus if you like gourmet Mexican (who knew) then Oyamel on 7th is worth a visit. It’s not super cheap but the food and cocktails are pretty fantastic. Ella’s Pizzas (9th NW) is superb if you want early eats – they have a happy hour with order-at-the-bar $5 pizzas and drinks a buck off, and the ham and potato pizza is great. I think the happy hour is 4-7. If you’re going to the game they have Ben’s there too but it’s (predictably) not as good as the original and anyway half the fun is the place itself.
I’d also recommend Raku at Dupont Circle if you’re into Asian food.
On a non-food note, I’d catch a show at the Black Cat or 9.30 club if you’re a live music fan.
I ran a half marathon in the snow in December
and it was the single toughest thing I’ve ever done. We didn’t take a change of clothes and afterwards we were frozen. I have to say that the meal at Lincoln’s was a lifesaver. Steak, homefries, eggs, toast, coffee juice. Then, five minutes later, pancakes, syrup, bacon, coffee, juice. Then a Twix. Nom nom nom.
if you have time and a car
and you like Vietnamese food at all, be sure to head down to the Eden Center Mall in Falls Church. You could eat at a different Vietnamese restaurant (for $5 or less a person) every day for a month.
Soko. I've lived here for over two years and...
This will help you for the Cherry Blossom’s festival, and if you’re ever in the city for the summer. In June, the Capital BBQ festival, you definitely wouldn’t want to miss out on.
If you’re in Clarendon (part of Arlington, Va) adjacent to DC, try Tandoori Nights for Indian food. Best darned Indian food I’ve had to date.
Also, try Sauciety at National Harbor. National Harbor is home to the Gaylord Convention Center (largest convention center on the eastern seaboard). Also of note w/in the Gaylord center / hotel is National Pastimes. Huge sports bar which is very chic sans pretentiousness.
Lastly, if you’re looking for a tried and true sports bar w/phenomenal pizza, try Bugsy’s in Old Town Alexandria, Va on King Street. Owned and operated by a former hockey player (Bryan Watson) – played for the Montreal Canadiens and the Washington Capitals (among other NHL teams), this joint (home to a bunch of damned Red Sox fans – regardless) is a great place for some brews and pizza pie.
There’s plenty to see, do and eat at in DC. If people who live here aren’t aware of it, then it’s their own fault for not “getting out there” to discover it.
Good luck during the festival. It’ll be a mad house around the tidal basin trying to take in the cherry blossoms.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 10, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Gaylord Convention Center
That gave me a good laugh. I then thought of Gaylord Focker, and laughed again.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Then there's this guy
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 11, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks fella!
Love me some Mets!
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 11, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Snidely Whiplash ... lol.
“Nell, have you seen Horse?”
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Acutally, it's Dick Dastardly.
But I’m sure they’re somehow related.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
What was that recent Disney movie, where the princess and the price "crossed over" into our world? Enchanted?
Well, that’s how Jose Valentin was born.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Dick Datardly is
Sinidely Whiplash’s distant, American and not nearly as funny cousin.
"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore
Ever since he and Jim Rice were admitted to the HOF
neither has shut his mouth about PEDs, celebrations, and all other “things were better back in day when men were MEN!”. Frankie should try to grow the Gossage facial hair and see what The Goose thinks.
by James Kannengieser on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder what came first,
the admittion to the HOF and then being cranky or being cranky but actually have reporters write down what you say because you’re a HOF.
A sweet, sweet mustache would completely justify the vesting option.
I miss the goggles too
by TheBigStapler on Mar 10, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Guys like Rice and Gossage
were lucky there were no cell phones with cameras when they played. I’ve heard enough stories (as most people probably have) over the years about guys “back in the day” that would have been great back cover NY Post headlines.
At least guys like Doc Ellis and Bill Lee tell it like it was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
In Doc's case
told it like was. RIP Doc.
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
Also from the post article (emphasis mine)
Jon Niese and Fernando Nieve, who are battling for the final spot in the rotation, are slated to pitch today against the Braves in Kissimmee. Nelson Figueroa and Bobby Parnell are also scheduled to pitch.
Burn Figgy.
I wouldn't read much into this
There’s no indication this is anything other than the writer’s own speculation. That being said, based on everything that’s been written so far, it sounds like the job is Niese’s to lose and Figgy is being considered more for a bullpen spot. The real question is whether, if Perez continues to pitch poorly, the organization would have the smarts/cojones to send him down and let him go through waivers and give one of our “#5” guys his spot.
by dontstopbelieving on Mar 10, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe because I'm on my iPhone
But the Post headline with Frankie just linked me to a page that said Corey Haim dead at 38.
by Evan_S on Mar 10, 2010 9:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If by some miracle
we win it all this year, I fully expect to read the following the next day:
HEADLINE: Mets Win World Series
SUB-HEADLINE: Mets Deny They Have Won World Series
by dontstopbelieving on Mar 10, 2010 10:22 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
+100000000
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Mar 10, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Applesauce
It’s good to see our medical staff is back to work, confusing the hell out of everyone.
Like I said in the last Applesauce, fuck Goose Gossage. But, really, saying “I have no idea who he is” isn’t really all that good of a come-back. It’s fine if you got a guy like Brian Bruney saying shit. But, Gossage is a Hall of Famer, and I’d like to think that baseball players have as much a sense of the history of the game as I do.
I’m not exactly worried about Santana. What I am worried about is GMJ being good in Spring Training, and getting the starting Center job over Pagan. Or, Mejia breaking camp with the team at the end of the month as a reliever.
And, damn, we should’ve signed Aroldis Chapman at all costs…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 10:27 AM EST reply actions
I don't know
Frankie was born in ‘82 and grew up in Venezuela. How many times do you think he saw Gossage pitch? I’ll go out on a limb and say: zero. I can’t kill a guy, who grew up in another country, for not knowing every HOFer, especially ones who stopped playing when Frankie was 12 years old.
I just don’t know how serious baseball history is taken outside the US.
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
He was inducted into the HoF in 2008.
He (K-Rod) was well established in the MLB by that point.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but I doubt many MLB players
especially ones not from the states, follow the HOF process that closely. I’m not even sure the average fan follows it closely enough to know anything but the major names inducted.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Those damn youngins who are actually older than me, not knowing nothing.
And, those ungrateful fans not knowing baseball history…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
We study the game because we can't play it
I don’t think they study it so much, at least not its history.
On Mejia
sigh
I’m not opposed to Ike starting the season in the minors, but Mejia should not break camp with the team under any circumstances. I can just see him repeating the mess with Joba Chamberlain that the Yankees made by switching him back and forth from the pen to the rotation. There is no reason that Mejia should start the season anywhere other then Binghamton or Buffalo, other than if you buy into the nonsense about the need to win now, which it seems Jerry does (granted his job is it stake but still).
On Ollie, if he continues to blow I would love to see someone else get a shot at his spot. I can’t imagine that Figgy, Nieve, or Takahashi would be any worse
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Mar 10, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions
Francesa just reported that Manuel wants Mejia up north with team
This could happen. If he struggles, not a big deal. Then you send him back down to AAA. Maybe he eventually steps into the 8th inning slot.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
or how about
we set our goals a little higher and hope he becomes a starting pitcher? I’m going to be so depressed if the Mets just settle for Mejia being a reliever
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I'm gonna be depressed if he starts the season up here as a reliever
Because Jerry wants more job security.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
If they do this, have to blame Minaya and Wilpons
A lame-duck manager in the last year of his deal does not get to dictate the plan for a potential future ace. This guy is the most valuable commodity in the organization and if Minaya/the Wilpons allow Jerry to make this call, shame on them.
by Bieser's Balk on Mar 10, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
That was the short answer of what scares me about this.
If Mejia keeps pitching lights out in ST, Jerry continues to tell the assembled press how much he loves this kid and how he’s going to do everything he can to make sure that he breaks camp with the ball club. This is because Jerry, for whatever reason, will be convinced that an 8th inning guy (can we just call them “junior closers” if this is now a specialized role?) is the key to winning this season and, oh yeah, Jerry knows he has to win now to keep his job. The media, for its part and based on Manuel’s comments, will continue to write up stories about how awesome Mejia looks and he is the Mets’ version of Joba Chamberlain so they would be stupid to leave him in the minors when he has already proved that he can take on major league hitters. This double-barreled pressure will leave the Omar-Jeff consortium in a bit of a pickle, because Omar knows that he also needs to win now and Jeff hates getting criticized by the NY sports media, so they sit down and figure that making Mejia the junior closer for at least the beginning of the 2010 season is the best for all involved and, hey, we’ll eventually shift him back to a starting role but right now this team is in desperate need of a junior closer and this kids has got the goods to take on that role for now.
In sum, I am scared of the short-sightedness and ass-covering of all parties that will prevent Mejia from going to AA/AAA and working on his secondary pitches as a starter and will, instead, send him up to the majors for limited duty throwing mostly fastballs as a possible marginal upgrade over the other available options.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
this paragraphs sums up
why the Mets needed to fire Minaya and Manuel at the end of last season.
And the fact that they didn’t sums up why the Wilpons will never own a successful baseball franchise.
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If Jerry were half as good at manipulating lineups/bullpens as he was manipulating the media, he’d be manager of the year.
I joked in another post he was an evil genius, and clearly I was half right. There’s no doubt he’s doing all this to put pressure on Minaya, long-term well-being of the team and Mejia be damned
by Bieser's Balk on Mar 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
also
am I the only person kinda hoping that Mejia gets lit up a bit this spring? I mean, I’m loving that he’s looked great so far, but in terms of long term development, one or two games where he gets rocked will probably be the best thing that could happen to him
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Yup, in almost anybody's development in almost anything
Getting rocked now and again, especially when you’re dominating, is useful.
plus it might make the Mets reconsider having him on the ML roster
at least their idiotic adherence to tiny sample-sizes will actually be a good thing for once
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Or, y'know...
…slip some growth hormone in the Gatorade-G?
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Mar 10, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Exactly true.
It seems that, at least how I’ve interpreted the papers and everything, that Jerry is genuinely interested in bringing Mejia up because it’ll make his job as manager that slightly easier, possibly, while Omar has been pretty passive about it, having said that he’s going to start in AAA and that’s that, since he shoulders more responsibility about player development. Ultimatley, Omar does get the final say, but how open to swaying- if his opinion is still a weak no- is he? Scary…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
He shouldn't even be starting in AAA
he only has 41 innings in AA ball doesn’t he? How can we be run by such ruh-tards.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Are those worse than "re"-tards?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
yes
Willie was a re-tard. Manuel is a ruhtard.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
What's the difference? Inquiring minds (like me) want to know.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take Willie over Jerry any day.
Remember, Willie was handicapped by having Jerry as his “bench coach.”
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
If Jenry dominates ST then I can see that
if he struggles there, then they move him to AA. But I don’t think that’ll happen. He’s facing AAA+ level hitting right now.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Post Article
Did anyone else notice that except for the first two sentences, all the information was compiled from last week? Also, they say he received blood test results and then say he is awaiting blood test results in the next sentence. This is just terrible journalism.
At least Enrique Rojas spoke with Reyes.
The newspapers have let go a lot of staff
and are using interns to compile a lot of stories now. There are also fewer editors’ eyes on any story.
so Reyes is or isn't out indefinitely
Santana wasn’t sharp, but pitched more than expected, Mejia might make the roster, and GMJr seems to be making a play for new KOST. Glad to see things are as confusing as always in the world of the Mets.
by KeithsMoustache on Mar 10, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions
Reyes to be back with the team in Florida by next week
… and playing. Everything appears to be ok, according to Francesa.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
good to hear
im away from Mets news for1- 2 days, and I come back to that, made me a little worried.
by KeithsMoustache on Mar 10, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
As posted, elswhere...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/10/sports/baseball/10reyes.html?ref=baseball
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
Right. Heard that on the FAN
So, can things actually be looking up for the Mets? Our kids are making spring training very interesting. Ike Davis is looking to make the Mets’ decision about sending him down to start the year a difficult one. Jennry Mejia is making a real bid to come up with big team as a reliever. Manuel wants this to happen and Mejia has so far been pitching lights out. Jonathan “The Knights that say” Niese may be our no. 5 starter. David Wright has two HRs so far. Jose’s legs look great and he’s coming back next week.
So, it will come down to our starting pitching …. nos. 2 through 5. Ollie came into camp in great shape. Let’s see it translates on to the pitching rubber. I’m certain we are going to make a trade for a starting pitcher and maybe sign another reliever.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Just curious
What makes you certain we are going to trade for a starting pitcher? Don’t you think that if the FO thought SP was a weakness, they would have signed one of the many options that were available for reasonable prices (Piniero, Sheets, Harden, Marquis, Garland, etc) during the offseason? What kind of upgrade could we possibly expect from a Spring Training trade that we couldn’t have gotten much easier in the offseason?
"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez
I'm not THAT certain ...
but apparently Mike Francesa is. Plus, Omar has said this entire off-season that he’d be looking at trade too because it wouldn’t cost him as much in salary. Right now, our weakest link are the nos. 2 – 5 of the starting rotation. If they can trade a Murphy and Matthews or Pagan and whoever to bring back a solid starter, why not?
As for an upgrade, how about Bronson Arroyo? Yes, he makes $15M this year (with a club option for 2011), but maybe Cinncy picks up some salary and takes some salary back? It’s possible.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
it would depend entirely on the cost in terms of prospects
he’s not much of an upgrade over what we have now at this point in his career.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I would strongly disagree ...
that he is not a upgrade over Pelfrey, Maine or Perez, who are all big question marks this year.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I don't see how he's at all an upgrade over Pelfrey
he wasn’t exactly much better than Pelfrey last season. I would agree he’s an upgrade over Maine/Perez but I don’t think he’ll be much more productive than what we could get from Figgy/Niese, and since we won’t be benching the 12 million dollar man he’d be replacing Figgy or Niese not Perez.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
... but I still love you Gina.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Mejia starting the season in the bullpen is the worst possible scenario
I’d rather he be our fifth starter than 8th inning guy. At least then he’ll have to use his other pitches.
I'd rather him be the bat boy.
At least he won’t encounter opportunities to somehow get freakishly injured, which is all the rage among the Mets lately.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 10, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Completely off-topic
But did anyone hear Francessa this afternoon? I guess he went a little nuts about the hilarious Fake Mike Francessa twitter feed/webpage.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 10, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions
I need to hear that
The MFNY Twitter is my favorite Twitter account and I don’t even listen to the real Francesa.
by James Kannengieser on Mar 10, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm apalled at the state of how the Mets organization handles injuries
Why should I listen to Reyes? “He” says he feels good and is ready to go? He’s a talented athlete who hasn’t played the game he loves since early last season. The guy wants to play. Of course “he” says he’s ready to go and it’s no big deal. He’s a competitor. What else is he gonna say? Sorry Jose. I have to listen to what the doc says.
What does the doc say anyway? Anyone?
From top to bottom since last year it appears that conditioning and injuries have been handled in the most muddled manner. I would venture to say that caution is the best tack to take regarding any injury or problem that a Mets ballplayer has at the moment. I’m not in the mood to put up with how the player “thinks” he feels.
Listen to the doc and take it slow. Get the condition / injury treated correctly and get back to the team in good health so we (the fans) can reap the rewards of seeing the players play at their peak for a long period of time.
C’mon Mets!
P.S. – Dang Chris Carter! You go man!
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 10, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions
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