Chris Carter: virtu and fortuna
by Michkin on Mar 12, 2010 3:45 PM EST
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PrintYes, he hit 3 HR's in 3 straight at bats. In Spring Training. Should he be in the opening day roster because of that?
(He should be considered for the opening day roster because of all the other stuff, not just 3 AB).
Note: This is not about the Oakland Athletics prospect (right-handed hitter), The X-Files creator, the safety, the wide receiver, the New Zealand politician or the Canadian television actor.
Small rant:
The number of people jumping on the Carter bandwagon has increased because of his ST performance. It's all nice and all that people are paying attention to him, but even before ST, what could be expected from him?
Shortest intro:
Chris Carter was the PTBNL in the trade that sent Billy Wagner to the Red Socks! Sox. He is a 27 years old left-handed hitter and he has spent the last 4 years in AAA.
Scouting report and Minor League Data (link)
Scouting: "Extremely intelligent, Carter is a real student of hitting, and has demonstrated success with the bat at every level. Excellentpower with the potential for more. Hits for average and consistently gets on base at a very good clip. Hits lefties and righties well. Below average speed. In the field, Carter has spent much of his career at 1B but was moved to the outfield in 2008. He has always been known as a poor fielder, and still doesn't look particularly comfortable at any position. He has focused on his glove and footwork and has improved slightly, but still not enough. " SoxProspects - summer/2009
"Chris Carter was dealt to the Red Sox from the Diamondbacks via the Nationals much for the same reasons Wily Mo Pena was dealt from the Red Sox. He was roadblocked. He has some similarities to Pena's game, interestingly enough. Carter has power to all fields, but has much more upside than Pena because he has spent time developing his swing in the minors and has a keen eye for the strike zone. Carter is a below-average defensive player who has spent most of his time at first base. His lefthandedness helps his reach to the bag, but his glove is far below current Red Sox infield standards. As a leftfielder he has seen fairly limited time and has a weak arm and poor range. He will fit into the Sox farm system right away with his exceptional grasp on the game and smart instincts both on the basepaths and at the plate. His speed is slightly below average, but his instincts help to make him a solid runner on the basepaths. His above average build makes him a prime candidate to catch fielders off guard with the occasional delayed steal. In 2007, he has reached based at a near even clip against both righties and lefties and can certainly work the count against each. He has shown great poise with runners on base as much as a minor leaguer can. His conditioning makes him very durable throughout a full season of games and with some more seasoning could be hitting 15-22 home runs in a major league lineup in 2 years, but may be stuck behind David Ortiz as DH in the Sox system, as he was stuck behind Connor Jackson in the Diamondbacks system, but we could see him as soon as September in a limited bench role. Could fill in for the Red Sox in 2008 in a bench role a la Eric Hinske if he works on his defense. Carter also had surgery after the 2006 season to his ailing right wrist that was aggravated by his gripping of the bat. He had his unciform bone removed along with torn cartilage." - Sons of Sam Horn - August/2007
According to Rubin, "Carter does have a minor-league option remaining, so there’s also a pretty good chance he’s with Triple-A Buffalo." In regards to Carter’s swing, Ade writes, "I haven’t seen a minor leaguer with a sweeter power swing since Ryan Zimmerman came to Savannah." - Source Metsblog/LobbyNews
| AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Career | .296 | .369 | .492 | .861 |
| Against L | .296 | .379 | .409 | .788 |
| Against R | .296 | .366 | .524 | .890 |
| 2009 | .296 | .359 | .467 | .826 |
He doesn't have a huge platoon split, getting on base at the same rate against L and R. The difference is his power translates better against R pitching.
Although he has played mostly 1B/DH in his minors, in the last 2 years he played more corner OF (137 games) than 1B (11 games) or DH (91). Keep in mind the 1B/OF Diamondbacks/Red Sox depth.
Defense:
| Year | Pos | Games | Runs | Runs/150 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2006 | 1B | 124 | -6 | -9 |
| 2007 | 1B | 101 | -8 | -15 |
| 2008 | LF | 77 | +6 | +11 |
| 2009 | RF | 45 | -1 | -3 |
TotalZone evaluated him as -6 and -8 runs below average in 1B in 2006 and 2007 (-9 and -15/150 games), but he was better at LF (+6 in 2008, +11/150) and RF (-1 in 2009, -3/150).
One scouting report mentioned his "stone hands", that could partially explain his worse performance at 1B than COF. I couldn't find the link though. (Insert snark remark how inept the Mets front office is for asking Carter to compete for the 1B job).
Here is the thing, we only have TotalZone numbers (no UZR or plus/minus to compare), minor league numbers are less reliable then major league data and the sample size is small. I would guess at corner OF he is around -5 defense. One certain Fangraphs article mentioned "9.26 RF/G" to say he was a good defender at 1B, but let's ignore that.
So, taking another approach, how much could his defense be bad to equal say Francoeur. There is a zero chance for him to start at RF and he isn't even the front-runner for the last bench spot. This is merely a comparison of value.
Projections
CHONE projects him to hit .276/.337/.452/.789 or wOBA of .344 and wRC+ of 111. I tried to find how CHONE projections are made or methodology comparisons or something, but let's stick to a short description for now: "(CHONE) uses four years of weighted numbers, runs a regression, adjusts for age, and then makes some common-sense tweaks to the playing time forecasts" link. Converting wOBA to wRAA (offensive runs above average) using the formula ((wOBA – lg wOBA)/Scale) * PA, for 600PA, we get 7.3 wRAA. If we compare to Francoeur's projected wOBA of .327 and wRAA of -1.5, Carter's defense would have to be worse than Francoeur's by 8.8 runs to match his production.
Park ajustment
Taking into consideration Park Factors, Citi Field dimensions, HitTracker lucky homers/just enoughs at Citi Field, Gameday BIP Location and MinorLeagueSplits spray chart, it seems lefties with pull power, like Carter, would benefit from the park. Murphy, Ibanez and Utley all lead the "lucky homers" category in Citi Field.
Park Factor (1 year)
| Runs | 1B | 2B | 3B | HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.943 | 0.955 | 0.955 | 1.200 | 1.057 |
| Rank 22th | 25th | 19th | 7th | 12th |
Gameday BIP Location
Carter's spray chart
Speedy hitters with gap power have their triple numbers increase, like Pagan. On the other hand right handed hitters with line drive swing and gap power will have trouble hitting HR's (opposite field and left center). Wright and possibly why the Mets didn't pursue Matt Holliday (insert snark comment here about the dysfunctional Mets front office).
Conclusion
Carter's offensive production should be enough to earn him the last bench spot, based on his handedness, competition, minor league numbers and CHONE projection. His defense might not be as bad as people think, specially at the corner OF. And his slugging numbers might benefit from Citi Field configuration. Though, in all likelihood he'll be sent back for yet another year in AAA.
Grission Tales
Q&A with Chris Carter - August/2009
Carter spotted opportunity - April/2009
A tale of two Chris Carters - May/2009
"The Animal", "don't touch my bat", hard working, shows up early for training (kinda stuff here)
Chris Carter makes the team: +10% GKR Drinking Game beverage consumption, +5% comments about Touch Down and +130 wMSPF (weighted mspaintz fanshot) about the X-Files.
Notes: replaced the BIP image for the correct one. Added meme line.
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That was a terrible trade
Wagner had came back healthy and he could have been a great All-Star reliever this year. It would not have been a problem if he took arbitration and if he declined then we would get a 1st round draft pick. But no, we needed to take Chris Carter. This guy is probably never going to be more than a bench player. Stupid Omar.
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
Oh, and by the way, very nice article.
I recommended it. That’s right, I actually said recommended and not “rec’d”. Kill me.
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on Mar 12, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
It was a little early to say Wagner had come back healthy.
He had pitched 2 innings at the time of the trade. Omar took the “safe” route, and found a taker for his contract that was willing to give up an ML-ready piece. Theo was willing to gamble, and it certainly paid off. I don’t think anyone would argue now that Theo made out with the better end of the deal, but Wags was far from risk free at the time of the trade.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but I'm not sure Carter can really be considered an ml ready piece
he’s on the fine line between prospect and AAAA player. And it’s unlikely he’ll be more than a bench player like Bobby Baseball said. I’m not sure saving 3 million is really worth that.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
That definitely makes him ML ready.
I wasn’t saying he’ll be above average, but he should be able to contribute to a major league roster.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but I don't see how that's more valuable
than the chance of two draft picks, or taking a “safe route”. We could have signed eric hinske or something to fill a similar role, it’s not like Carter is some rare commodity.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I didn't say he was, I just said Omar to the safe route to dumping his contract.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
What I'm saying is I don't see how that's safe
I don’t see how losing 3 million is enough of a risk, vs the opportunity of gaining 2 draft picks, to make dumping the 3 million a safe move.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
It was "safe", because after two innings it wasn't really fair to assume that anyone would be willing to give up a first rounder to sign him.
Rather than let his rehab play out and see what they had, they took what they could get at the deadline and saved 3 million. If Omar really wanted too (which he likely won’t), he could take the money he’d have spent on those two picks (likely about 1.5 million), combined with the 3 million he saved, and go overslot in the middle rounds of the draft to add several first round talents (or go waaay overslot for a really good prospect). He could also take that money to the International market and add several high quality prospects. That 3 million can go a long way towards adding quality to the farm regardless of where the Mets are drafting.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
But for a big market team
I just don’t see at all how saving 3 million should be that important. It just doesn’t make any sense that the cost of 3 million would be to high for the chance at two draft picks, or that the 3 million spent would prevent them from spending elsewhere in IFA’s or going over the slot. If that’s the cause then it would make some of the smaller signings they make a lot more questionable too.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I'm not arguing it was a smart idea to move him for that package, I actually think the opposite.
I can just understand why Omar did it. Looking at the potential market for closers at that time, I can see how he’d question whether anyone would be willing to give up a first rounder for Wags. As it turned out, the Sox got the far better end of that deal. Had Wagner had elbow issues (and that was a real possibility with Jerry running him out there) or not been overly effective he’d have netted nothing, so that’s why I’m saying Omar took the safe route.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Buying wins in the short term matters
$3.5 million saved is enough to buy a win in 2010 on the open market, or as Schmidt said, spend a little extra on IFA signings and the picks the team does have. This question of whether a few million should matter to a large market team isn’t really an issue. The Mets have a finite budget. Its magnitude isn’t particularly relevant since the organization isn’t starting from scratch, they’re starting from a point approaching the budget’s finite limit, and even relative to the budget’s overall magnitude, $3.5 million is significant. Relative to the $20-30 million they have in spendable money, its huge.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 12, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I may be wrong, but aren't the Mets under budget this year?
In which case the money saved isn’t really being put to good use—at least not yet. A safe bet isn’t really safe if the expected return is so much lower than the expected return from the riskier bet, and the risky bet has no chance to do any real harm in the worst case scenario. Especially considering all the other “risky” bets the Mets make with FA signings, trades, etc. It’s like playing $500 blackjack hands all night and suddenly deciding not to double down 11 vs. dealer 6, it just makes no sense.
by DoghouseBlues on Mar 12, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if they're under budget
But I think they’re about 20 million under last years payroll and 40-50 million under the luxury tax threshold.
But yeah that was my point if we’re talking about buying wins then I’d say if 3.5 million is that important to them then they shouldn’t be spending money on flyers and Cora and guys like Jacobs, Blanco and Barajas, of all those investments a possible type A I would think has the highest expected return.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I just took a quick look at the fangraphs leaderboards.
Among RF, there were 9 players who posted a wOBA of .344 or less (Carter’s CHONE projection for 2010) and there were 10 who had a fielding value of -5 or worse. And many players were in the bottom of both lists. I believe he can be a ML player, but he haven’t had the chance. Previously being in two organizations with great depth in his positions didn’t help.
I’m not going to argue about the Wagner trade, it’s spilled milk. Sure I wanted the chance to get the draft picks back then, but that’s not what I was fan-posting.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
agreed
i see carter as a guy who can be a very solid major league first baseman but because he lacks that sexy prospect factor, he hasn’t and may not ever get that opportunity.
by Rob Castellano on Mar 13, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
screw the $3 they saved
what about the compensation draft picks they could’ve recieved??
Is the team better for having traded Wagner?
What are the chances Carter even makes the team over Jacobs, a guy who he is clearly better than? He’s at best a bench piece on an NL team, while if we kept Wagner, we could have gotten first round and supplemental round draft pick. It wasn’t a “safe” route, it was the stupid, cheap route.
rec'd
This really raises the bar for comprehensive FanPost discussion. As to the substance of your post, and bandwagon aside: it’s just sad how long the list of internal better-than-Francoeur options is getting.
Seriously
think about how many rallies he’d kill.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Here's the real question
is there anyway that he couldn’t make the roster? I mean if he continued to perform well and considering his performances in AAA and our lack of depth at the position and the fact they traded a type A free agent to acquire him, is it really possible that our front office would be inept enough to not put him on the team?
I mean even if he wasn’t raking in spring training what would it say about our front office to trade Wagner for him, and Loria but that’s another story, have a need for first base depth and a left handed power hitter, and not put him on the team? Of course this is the same team that never gave Bostick a chance of even being a loogy after trading two fireballers for him and Vargas so who knows.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I think this is going to be the answer to every question
at least for the rest of spring training and possibly deep into the season.
but I mean
even our front office can’t be that stupid right? I mean you trade for the guy, he’s literally a perfect fit for a hole on your team and he’s actually producing. Even our front office can add 2 and 2 and get 4 right?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Well performance isn't the only factor
Considering the Mets positive/negative biases towards players like Church, Murphy, Francoeur, Cora, etc.
You also have to figure out whom the Mets “like” better.
Whom the Mets traded for Carter shouldn’t really matter in the decision-making process, but hopefully in this case it does (if it means he makes the team over Jacobs). Maybe a bunch of random bad decisions will accidentally turn into a good decision.
by DoghouseBlues on Mar 12, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well I mean if they traded a type A free agent for him
they have to like him right? That’s more my point. I mean to trade the chance at two type A’s you have to like a player a lot right? And they liked Church until he selfishly suffered two concussions in a short time span and couldn’t cure himself of post concussion syndrome.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I see, well I definitely hope you're right.
We might be able to tell whom he likes more by who gets the most ABs.
by DoghouseBlues on Mar 12, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think (hope) Omar has him in a category of "possible resurgence" (Valentin, Tatis) type player
But since he won’t be any more than the usual Mike Jacobs in spring training, he won’t come north.
Wait I'm confused
Do you mean Carter or Jacobs?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
If Carter continues to slug like .900 for the rest of ST
and he doesn’t make the team, but Jacbos does, I’m going to do some serious reflection about my sanity as a Mets fan.
Yes I know its spring training, but slugging .900 has to impress Omar.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
the biggest thing about carter
the splits. as you said, his power translates better against righties but that is true w/ almost anh hitter w/ an opposite handed pitcher. but in his minor league career, carter’s AVG vs. righties was .296 while his AVG vs. lefties? .296.
murphy, jacobs and even ike all fare significantly worse against lefties in all phases (AVG, OBP, SLG) which to me is a huge factor when evaluating carter’s worth.
I really don't understand why Carter is being so discounted (especially when Jacobs is one of his competitors for the "last spot")
Chris Carter: 27 going on 28
Mike Jacobs: 29 going on 30
Frank Catalanotto: 35 going on 36
Chris Carter: 1st base (poor defense), outfield (decent defense)
Mike Jacobs: 1st base (very poor defense) / catcher (in theory)
Frank Catalanotto: Infield (slightly below average defense) / outfield (below average defense defense)
Chris Carter: 1.3 WAR Projection (CHONE)- Halving that to give him less PAs is the more likely scenario, but even still, that’s roughly 0.6-0.7 WAR
Mike Jacobs: 0.2 WAR Projection (CHONE)
Frank Catalanotto: 0.1 WAR Projection (CHONE)
How Jacobs is in the seeming lead, in the minds of management, when he’s the most one-dimensional of the above, boggles the mind.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 12, 2010 5:48 PM EST reply actions
2 reasons
the purely name value that mike jacobs (and to a lesser extent frank catalanatto) carries that chris carter does not. this shouldn’t matter in a front office fielding the best possible team but does that really surprise anybody that it clearly does?
and two, the fact that we can keep an extra player in the organization by sending carter down. by all accounts jacobs refuses an assignment to the minors, the same probably goes for the little cat, but carter has one more option year. in theory this is smart but when you’re trying to preserve either a guy that is so damn bad that your organization is worse for having him or another who is on the brink of retirement, not so good in practice.
by Rob Castellano on Mar 13, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
We won't really keep another player in the organization by keeping Jacobs.
At some point he needs to be added to the 40, which means DFA’ing someone
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 13, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
good point
forgot that both jacobs and catalanatto are here on minor league deals therefore bumping someone if they make it. have i mentioned that chris carter better make this team?
by Rob Castellano on Mar 13, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome writeup
I still think the trade was underrated, even when it was just a PBTNL. The fact that Carter seems like a player with some short term value is icing on the cake. In hindsight, the better play was probably gamble on getting the draft picks, which we now know would have paid off, but there was significant risk in trying that. Enough risk to make the decision to go ahead with the trade more than understandable.
First, you have to assume Wagner is healthy enough and effective enough in a month’s worth of relief innings to warrant risking an arbitration offer. Don’t forget, the Red Sox knew they likely had at least three more games than the Mets to showcase him in 2009, and perhaps many more, since they seemed likely to make the playoffs.
Second, you have to assume he’ll decline arbitration. Not a huge assumption, he wanted to close, he wouldn’t close on the Mets, but largely dependent on if he can attract some attention as 2009 came to a close.
Third, hope that he signs with a team who had one of the 15 best records in 2009. Considering Wagner was looking for a job as a closer, this is a big risk, it was a deep market for closers and there were much safer options for competitive teams than Wags. I thought the chances he signed to a team with a protected pick was very high. A pick between #16-30 is much more valuable than a pick between #52-67. He could have very easily latched onto an low base, one year deal with a team like the Orioles, Pirates, Nationals or Astros. What upper level teams besides the Braves were there for him? Maybe the Rays or Tigers, or as a long shot the Cardinals, but that’s about it.
Fourth, you have to hope whatever team he signs with signs no other Type A Free Agent other than Chone Figgins, since Figgins was the only Type A Free Agent ranked lower than Wagner to reject arb.
So to recap, at the time the Mets made the trade, keeping Wagner instead of trading him would have only paid off under the following requirements:
1. Wagner showcases health and effectiveness in just a month
2. He rejects arbitration
3. Signs with a team that had at least the 15th best record in MLB.
4. That team signs no other Type A free agents (Besides Chone Figgins).
Just to take this gamble would have cost the Mets $3.5 million, which on the open market, could theoretically buy a full win for 2010. Then you get Carter, a guy with very little service time, a minor league option, and a useful major league bat. He’s no stud, but he’s cheap, controllable, and valuable. I do think there’s a good chance that Frenchy is more than 8.8 runs better defensively, and Pagan, who projects similar, likely would be as well. But its close, close enough where Carter could justifiably steal some starts in RF.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 12, 2010 6:36 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I know I'm in the minority here, but I really think Eddie Lora is a sleeper in the deal.
He’s a guy that most scouts project to develop some power, and he’s already got a walk rate of over 13% for his career. He’s one I’m interested to watch this season.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I thought about mentioning him
But being so used to analyzing players on the Mets farm, I have no idea what to make of a guy who was 20 and in the GCL last year. In our system, 20 year olds should at least be in Double-A, lol.
No matter what, I think its hard to make a case that he’s a Top 20 organizational prospect, or even Top 30 or 40, so putting a dollar value on that doesn’t change the overall deal that much, but he could definitely have some upside so it is a nice little bonus.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 12, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Totally unrelated to the Carter deal, but do you subscribe to MILB.TV at all?
It covers almost every Buffalo game, and this is the first year where I can remember being excited to see some Mets AAA prospects. It’s pretty cheap (I think it cost me about 50 bucks for the season last year), so it may be worth it to see Ike, Fernando, Thole, and Tejada there on a regular basis.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
AAA is really the only level with tv coverage, but Buffalo does all their home games.
Most of the teams in the division have coverage too, so the majority of their road games get shown. It was kinda worthless when we were in Norfolk and New Orleans, but Buffalo works well for this. You also get radio for most of the Savanah, St. Lucie, and Bingo games (although they overlap alot of Mets games).
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 12, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I actually wrote
< / negativity > without spaces after that comment, and presumably now there is a little computer elf actually trying to turn off my negativity somewhere on the interwebs
Yeah me neither, I'll definitely have to look into that
I was planning to do an upstate road trip to try and swing through Bingo and Buffalo. I think my band might try to do a little NY tour before our singer’s able to carry out her threat of moving to Cali this summer, so I might just try to combine the two without telling them about my ulterior minor league baseball motives.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 13, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Great post.
I’d rec but I’m on the mobile.
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