The Myth Of Carlos Beltran's Poor Contract Lives On
Level-headed Twins fan and blogger Aaron Gleeman, of AaronGleeman.com and Hardballtalk, wrote the following in an otherwise spot-on analysis of the Joe Mauer mega-deal:
For every Albert Pujols or Manny Ramirez deal that proved favorable for the team there are several massive deals that proved unfavorable to varying degrees: Barry Zito, Mike Hampton, Vernon Wells, Alfonso Soriano, Ken Griffey Jr., Kevin Brown, Todd Helton, Jason Giambi, Carlos Beltran.
The inclusion of Beltran alongside the likes of Zito and Griffey Jr. is more than a bit puzzling. Gleeman notes that the unfavorable contracts fall into one of three categories:
- "Some of those were full-blown busts" -- It's nearly impossible to argue this about Beltran.
- "some were a mixed bag where ultimately the player was paid significantly more than he was worth" -- Again, it's tough to argue this, as we'll see in a moment.
- "some simply saw the team overpay for a good player, as the "bad" pretty clearly outnumber the "good" even though in nearly every case the team and its fans were thrilled at the time of the signing" -- It is true that Met fans were thrilled at the time of the signing. This possibility seems the most plausible for describing the Beltran deal but still misses the mark. The only time he was ever really "bad" was 2005, and even then was still just slightly below league average, all-around.
Gleeman concludes that portion of the writeup with this:
In other words, if given a chance to go back in time more often than not teams would opt against handing out a $100 million deal.
Hopefully the Mets front office doesn't regret giving Beltran a 7 year, $119 million contract ($17 million AAV), even if there is an uninformed portion of the fanbase that does. Yes, the man was injured for half of 2009 and 2010-2011 remain question marks. However, a look at the dollars-per-win model of player valuation shows that Beltran has been worth more than he's been paid thus far, and seems like a good bet to provide $119 million worth of value to the team.
Here are the $100+ million contracts listed -- from left to right the columns represent the player, WAR provided in contract years, dollars paid per win, contract length in years (for players with active contracts, like Beltran, total years into the contract is listed), player salary during those years, and, if applicable, Fangraphs valuation of player value in dollars. The last two columns are the most important:
| Player | WAR | $$ Per Win | Years | Salary | FG Valuation |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pujols | 48.7 | $1.8M | 6 | $86M | $190.3M |
| Ramirez | 39.1 | $4.1M | 8 | $160M | N/A |
| Beltran | 23.3 | $3.6M | 5 | $85M | $95.4M |
| Zito | 5.3 | $10.2M | 3 | $54M | $23.3M |
| Hampton | 8.4 | $14.4M | 8 | $121M | N/A |
| Wells | 1.2 | $30M | 2 | $36M | $5.4M |
| Soriano | 8.0 | $6.4M | 3 | $51M | $33.6M |
| Griffey Jr. | 12.3 | $9.4M | 9 | $116.5M | N/A |
| Brown | 25.6 | $4.1M | 7 | $105M | N/A |
| Helton | 31.7 | $3.5M | 7 | $110M | $111.5M |
| Giambi | 24.4 | $4.9M | 7 | $120M | $78.7M |
Beltran has been worth more than he's been paid, thus far at least. Helton also has been more-or-less worth his contract.
Gleeman is obviously familiar with the Fangraphs dollars-per-win model, as he cites it in the same piece when assessing the Mauer contract. It's curious why he apparently chose to overlook it when lumping Beltran in with some of the great mistakes of the last ten years or so. It's possible he also factored team success when compiling the list (Ramirez won two World Series rings with the Red Sox, Beltran has none) but it's hard to objectively say that Beltran is a $100+ million flop. Should he miss 2010 and 2011, or perform at replacement level, it's possible the deal could be fairly labeled somewhat of a disappointment. It's just too early for that though, and there's no way he should be mentioned in the same sentence as Mike Hampton or Vernon Wells.
***UPDATE***
After receiving an onslaught of e-mails from Beltran fanboys, and re-considering Beltran's contract, Gleeman has removed Beltran's name from the original post. Good stuff.
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And to Gleeman's credit...
He himself tweeted about your argument: http://twitter.com/aarongleeman/status/10876149658
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by Lunkwill Fook on Mar 22, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't Pujols still have arb years left when he signed?
If so, it’s not really fair to compare his contract with the others.
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
Unlike some of these new bandwagon fans,
I was a fan back in ’06 and remember when Beltran was caught looking to end the NLCS. Nuff said.
If he drove that pitch into the depths of the night
then his contract would be looked at as a bargain.
Stupid 2007-2009 bandwagoners.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 22, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unlike some of these new bandwagon fans,
I was a fan back in ’06 and remember when Beltran was caught looking to end the NLCS. Nuff said.
The fucked up part is that so many people feel that way, that I have no idea whether you are serious or not.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Not serious,
esp. regarding “bandwagon” fans. No one has watch the Mets the past three years and said “yeah I want me some of that.”
Masochists would.
Although they’re probably already rooting for the Royals.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Mar 23, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The issue is not overpaying Beltran
The problem is that other aspects of the team have been mishandled, and it may therefore feel like the Mets didn’t get the full value (in terms of wins and postseason appearances) of Beltran’s presence.
I don't really know why Helton gets lumped in there either
Yeah, he probably won’t be worth what he’s making in 2010 or 2011 in isolation, but the Rockies got a massive bargain from 2003-05 when Helton was ridiculously awesome (for example, Helton’s career OBP is .427, which is 12th-best all-time and slightly edges Pujols best among active players), and it seems like (as James said above) he’ll be roughly worth his contract over its entire duration. And that’s not even considering any off-the-field value that might be realized by the Rockies for having an awesome home-grown player as the face of their franchise for a good fifteen years.
I think the fact that he's a home grown players should certainly be considered
The fact that a team is willing to pay to keep those guys around can only help with their fanbase and likely keeps ticket sales looking nice.
Who cares how bad the Bay deal will look in 2013, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 22, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Any long-term contract is going to look bad when only the last two years are considered. It’s almost impossible for aging players to perform at their peak level in those final years. What the team is really paying for is the right to lock up the player during his peak years. What the team hopes is that the excess value received during the player’s peak years outweigh the negative value in the final years of the contract.
This is why I love the web
For all the nonsense from the mainstream media about the lack of accountability online, this is something that Lupica or Sherman would never do. Love that a guy can make a mistake, get called on it (in rational fasion) and the guys owns up to it.
by Bieser's Balk on Mar 22, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Has anyone ever looked at "opportunity cost"?
What I’m thinking is, if you commit $100M to a player and he returns ~100M in value to the team, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Just looking at Pujols as an extreme example & arb year buyouts taken into consideration, isn’t the goal to get players that provide more value than you pay them? In that sense getting 100M in value from a 100M contract is basically 0% return on investment, from a pure financial perspective. Bringing opportunity cost back — if you didn’t dole out the 100M, are there cases where you could have used that money to get a better return? I suspect scarcity of 5+ win players probably rules the day here, just curious if the analysis had been done.
I don't know if any specific research has been done
but I imagine you have to take into account the fact that roster spots are finite so getting 5 WAR from one player is more valuable than getting 1 WAR from 5 players. So it might be worth it to get exactly 100 M back from one player because it will allow you to go for better bargains for other positions.
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This always strikes me as a misleading version of the question though
If you’re comparing something to five players worth 1 WAR, shouldn’t it be one player worth 5 WAR and four players worth 0 WAR? That’s the opportunity cost of having about $20 million to spend and deciding to spend it on one player or five players.
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What a fool I was to defy him"
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by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 22, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That's part of the point of setting a market rate per win though
Whatever the average amount teams are willing to pay per win is just a way of evaluating opportunity cost. The goal is always to spend as little as possible to get as much value as possible, but on the open market, wins cost money, and unless you’re better at predicting surprise breakout production than other evaluators, or run an organization based on player development, you’re going to have to spend the market rate to buy some wins. If you sign a player to a contract and its said he was worth less than the value of the contract, the idea is you could have spent the market rate on wins and gotten better value, and that’s your opportunity cost. Below market contracts just aren’t that easy to come by though, especially in regard to established player whose production can be easily predicted.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 22, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The average FA contract breaks even
You can only get surplus value if you make better decisions (or have more luck) than average.
The benchmark is 0% return, unlike investments in the stock market where the benchmark is eg. 7% return.
by DoghouseBlues on Mar 22, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is what I was getting at...
And James posted a few numbers, but I was wondering about more data that supports your point that “the average FA contract breaks even” without going one-by-one at cots / fangraphs.
This is true by definition
That’s how the $/WAR is calculated, I believe. Something like Total FA $/Total FA WAR = $/win, so on average everyone breaks even.
by DoghouseBlues on Mar 23, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Gleeman has now gone back and watched a lot of Beltran highlight reels
And he has had the same response as Cary Grant had upon discovering LSD:
“The shock of each revelation brings with it an anguish of sadness for what was not known before in the wasted years of ignorance and, at the same time, an ecstasy of joy at being freed from the shackles of such ignorance.”
by Pack Bringley on Mar 22, 2010 11:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
LSD genuinely scares me.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 22, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though
the Cary Grant of “Talk of the Town” and “Holiday” is my moral hero, I’ve tried to steer clear of the lotus eating.

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