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GM Omar Minaya said he is more open to the idea of keeping Mejia, 20, as a reliever than he was earlier in the spring "because he has shown more command" than he did as a minor-leaguer.

Minaya said that even if need for such a bullpen weapon dictates the move, he still sees Mejia as a starter in the future. "Other starters have done it, starting out in the bullpen," the GM said. "Johan Santana did it."

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Dear Jerry and Omar

Everyone knows that you’ve done enough damaged to pretty much guarantee that you won’t be here in 2011.

Please don’t screw that season up, too.

by Dan Lewis on Mar 23, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Too late...

Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?

by CharlieH on Mar 23, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm eating Mexican for dinner, followed by a night out at the local biergarten.

Gotta focus on the positive.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 23, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Good thinking!

I’m going to see k-os tomorrow night.

by Prince on Mar 23, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking about having Cuban food tonight.

I figure, I’ll get a taxi, and just get put out of my misery already…

Ugh…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 23, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmmmm biergarten

You are right, you gotta keep things positive. I am not looking forward to this season. The whole Mejia thing has got me really down n this team. I think 2011 is going to be better, but right now, things are pretty bad.

When the guys battling for the last spot in the rotation are better then your 2-4, you have a problem.

Any way, have a some Wurste and Weisse, for the rest of us.

by Coolpapabell on Mar 23, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm getting the boot tonight.

Pretty psyched about that.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 23, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it your birthday?

Don’t forget your birthday margarita at Bombers too.

(It’s my friend’s birthday today too, and every year the trip to Albany is just a couple of days off from where she could get the birthday margarita.)

by JoshNY on Mar 23, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I’m skipping the margarita in favor of the boot. There’s only so much time in the evening (especially on a weeknight). On Sunday, however, I get to see my girlfriend’s brother try to drink two of those margaritas (one at each Bombers in the area).

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 23, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well happy birthday!

And enjoy your two liters.

(Technically, aren’t you allowed to share the margarita? We saw a couple of them the other night and they seemed to have multiple straws in them.)

by JoshNY on Mar 23, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can share.

But he’s aiming to drink both.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's, umm...

Good luck to him, I guess? Don’t die?

by JoshNY on Mar 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

during football (American) season

I saw some older guy absolutely demolish the boot. <20 min. Didn’t even faze him. I don’t think it was his birthday either, just a weekly thing for a Sunday afternoon.

Then I went back a couple weeks ago and found it turned into the most happening joint in town, despite being in a terrible neighborhood.

by hotspur on Mar 23, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The closest German/Mexican alliance

Since the Zimmerman Telegram.

OK, that needs some work.

by wobatus on Mar 23, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

now THAT is an obscure reference.

Well done, I think.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Mar 23, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call

Though it was fake, wasn’t it?

by deadspy3 on Mar 23, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on which historian or book you read.

I don’t remember the general consenus but there is still some factions out there that believe both.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Mar 23, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zimmermann admitted it

I believe, and I think nowadays it is believed real.

Of course, no real alliance, as the Mexicans rejected it. And I misspelled Zimmermann. It’s like Jordan, not Ryan.

by wobatus on Mar 23, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is like watching a train crash happen in slow motion

you see it coming and you want to stop it, but there’s just nothing you can do. And eventually that train is going to be pitching the 8th inning in meaningless games for the rest of its career. Or something.

I’m becoming a Nationals fan.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Mar 23, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

My only hope

Is that the last such train had Bengie Molina’s name on it and disaster was avoided.

by OlStubbleBeard on Mar 23, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gutless, stupid, gutless, stupid Omar...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 23, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

From Marty Noble's inbox

We haven’t seen him as a starter, and we haven’t seen all that much of his as a reliever. For now, the club is looking at him as a reliever, not an eighth-inning reliever yet, but perhaps by the early summer if he is successful in his first big league endeavors. My crystal ball sees this scenario developing: he becomes a successful short reliever this year, returns next year in the same role and in 2012, when Francisco Rodriguez’s contract has expired, Mejia becomes the closer.

That is based on nothing his stuff, his age, his circumstances and Rodriguez’s contractual status.

"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell

by Rey-O on Mar 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

AHHHHHH

I also see the possibility of Mejia closing, thats a worst case scenario. Let the kid develop all his pitches, then bring him up, if he struggles, then have him close.

Did noble also forget we have Brad Holt, who could also step up in the closer role?

by Coolpapabell on Mar 23, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side

Marty Noble’s crystal ball foresees Frankie’s 2012 option failing to vest.

by James Kannengieser on Mar 23, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marty Noble's crystal ball

also sees fire sprites dancing in the moonlight

by deadspy3 on Mar 23, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Somehow I doubt he realizes how likely that is to happen.

Who cares how bad the Bay deal will look in 2013, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 23, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

my fear

is this, because it looks like Feliz may be relieving again to start this year. At some point it does become foolish to not try to see if a great arm like that can start.

by wobatus on Mar 23, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feliz will probably be in the bullpen to start to monitor his innings while he stretches out

they did the same thing with Holland, i think that’s his name, last year. They had ML ready stuff their arms just weren’t ready for the workload so they monitor them in the bullpen.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 23, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, who cares?

They’re going to keep doing the most mind-numbingly idiotic shit imaginable because that’s what they do. We’re the idiots for being surprised when they make decisions like a drunk on a barstool with a glass of whiskey in one hand and a beer spilling on to the other.

The best we can hope for is another shirt-ripping-off event. Hey, the NFL draft is only a month away!

by Jamesir Bensonmum on Mar 23, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

what, there's baseball going on?

Cornell is in the Sweet 16. Since that will probably be my sports-fan highlight of 2010, I’m going to dwell on it for a long time, even if Kentucky crushes them on Thursday.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Mar 23, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Besides all the obvious reasons why this makes no sense

it’s going to deprive of us one of the interesting parts of following the minor leagues this season.

by Mount17 on Mar 23, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

And the media's been a willing accomplice in this

I challenge anyone to read the brilliant Fire Jerry Manuel’s back-and-forths on Twitter with Steve Popper and Dave Lennon and not be astounded at the idiocy. Yeah, because the greatest reliever of all time just needed one pitch, why would Mejia need to develop any secondary pitches?

by Bieser's Balk on Mar 23, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

i almost hope

For Mejia’s sake he gets traded before they ruin him

by RIPShea on Mar 23, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

For our sake

I hope Omar and Jerry get fired before they ruin him

by JoshNY on Mar 23, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Johan Santana did it."

This is such a dumb statement. The only reason Santana started out in the bullpen was that he was a Rule 5 pick, and the Twins had to carry him on their 25 man roster to keep him. He developed into an elite starter despite this, not because of it.

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Mar 23, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Omar never lets facts get in the way. You know that.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 23, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know

I guess it’s kind of redundant to point out that something Omar says is dumb.

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Mar 23, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you've gone like 4-5 levels beyond

the mets front office’s average level of research.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

Johan Santana spent parts of four years pitching out of the bullpen. Wasn’t just because he was a Rule 5 pick. Aaron Gleeman’s first (of many) blog posts about the need to insert Santana into the rotation came in August 2002, 2 1/2 years after Santana was selected in the Rule 5 draft. And he wouldn’t permanently join the Twins’ rotation until midway through 2003.

by Alex Nelson on Mar 23, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't he sent down in the middle of those stints, after his first season with the twins

to work on his breaking stuff? I think what people are saying is there’s a difference between Santana who had 4 years in the minors, and was sent down multiple times to work on his off-speed stuff during his stints in the bullpen, and in Meija who hasn’t had nearly as much time and who Jerry apparently wants to ignore off-speed stuff all together.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 23, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only his first two seasons

Mostly, the Twins just refused to use him as a starter.

by Alex Nelson on Mar 23, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

was it because they didn't like him as a starter

or were trying to be careful with him? I ask because I know they tried to do the same thing with Liriano, working him out of the bullpen.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 23, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just didn't trust him as a starter

In 2002, Santana pitched beautifully, and the Twins decided Johan wasn’t one of their five best starters heading into 2003, instead choosing to sign Kenny Rogers in the middle of spring training.

by Alex Nelson on Mar 23, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Start sharpening your pitchforks.

This isn’t a surprise, but it’s no less infuriating that two wholly incompetent men (well, one and another half incompetent) will knowingly ruin the future of the franchise’s best pitching prospect in a quarter-century just to try to stay employed for a few more months.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Mar 23, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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