Sherman: Mets are shopping GMJ

Whoopie?

UPDATE: Edited title to more accurately reflect Sherman's report.

about 2 years ago Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright 31 comments 0 recs |

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So they gave up a potentially useful bullpen piece

for a crappy outfielder that a month later they decide to try to dump, and a team with 6 OF’s is their only potential trading partner. Oy vey…At least it shows that we’re not the only incompetent team out there.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Mar 24, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions

You forget to mention that Socks!! was also a 3 time cy young award winner

That makes this trade look even worse

I Believe in 2010

by Jadden Hopkins on Mar 24, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Better that than releasing a useful arm outright.

*cough*O’Day*cough*

by keithprime on Mar 24, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Bag of balls, anyone?

Do I hear a resin bag? No? How about some bats? Even used bats? Cracked batting helmet? Seriously, anything at all?

by BobbyV_Incognito on Mar 24, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions

I wonder who they intend on taking his spot

now that they’ve sent Pridie down. Carter and Jacobs on the bench??

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 24, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions

Imagine Carter, Jacobs, Tatis, Cora, Blanco

Least athletic bench in history?

by James Kannengieser on Mar 24, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Makes not signing Bengie Molina that much better.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 24, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions

it will get better when Beltran gets back

unless they go Ramon Castro on Pagan.

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Mar 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

I will continue to lobby for Shinjo

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Mar 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

If Pagan goes down...

They’ll just move Bay back to his natural position of CF and put Carter in left

by Bieser's Balk on Mar 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

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by Sokojoe on Mar 24, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Shinjo approves

by JoshNY on Mar 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

This has to be at least related to F!'s hot spring

They didn’t send him down with Davis, maybe they feel more comfortable with the thought of having him play every day as the starter, with Pagan on the bench instead of GMJr and Pridie the emergency guy in case F! doesn’t hit and needs to be sent back down.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 24, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree... but in that case, I don't get the Davis send down.

I could totally understand — disagree with, but understand — a Mets lineup with Davis and F! in it, a rotation with Niese, and Mejia in the pen. Instant excitement, just a year early (save for Niese I guess) and a misplaced Mejia.

by Dan Lewis on Mar 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I've kept my mouth shut

But in this case, I strongly suspect this has something to do with Carter. Maybe I’m wishcasting rationale onto people who don’t have it, but Jerry really seems to like Carter. Either way, between he and Jacobs, it does seem like (or at least seem like the Mets decision makers think there is) there’s more offensive firepower potentially backing up Murphy than there is backing up Pagan. Plus Fernando has at least played a bit in Triple-A and the majors, Davis began last year in HiA. Fernando hasn’t been below Double-A in over three years, as crazy as that is. Plus Davis doesn’t have to be added to the 40-man, F!’s already there.

The problem with this whole line of thinking is F! is a pretty clear defensive downgrade from Pagan. Davis is probably a wash with Murphy at worst defensively, and could be an improvement. In that regard there’s less risk with Davis.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Mar 24, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Carter has a short swing

Jerry likes that

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Mar 24, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

F! is already on the 40 man and has started acruing service time.

Davis still needs to be added, and simply waiting until April 18th to promote him delays his free agency by a year (assuming the move is permanent.

Who cares how bad the Bay deal will look in 2013, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 24, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I can see him being enough to net player who's out of options.

He’d actually be a reasonably good fit if the Mets tried to get Chad Gaudin or Sergio Mitre. I can see the Nats having some interest now as well.

Who cares how bad the Bay deal will look in 2013, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions

So, who's interested?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 24, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions

Apparently just dusty baker

but with the reds surplus of decidedly more talented, and younger and even cheaper, of options I’d be semi shocked to see them trade for him.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 24, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions

I think now that we're talking about only 1 million dollars, cost becomes almost inconsequential.

I really don’t even think the Marlins would struggle to add the extra 500,000 or so that Matthews would cost over a minimum salaried player.

Who cares how bad the Bay deal will look in 2013, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 24, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah but if you have 2-3 better outfield options than GMjr who are also are cheaper

what would be the point of taking on the extra 1 million.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Grission!

The currency in which only Dusty Baker and Jerry Manuel still trade

by deadspy3 on Mar 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

It isn't a million though once you subtract the player he'd be replacing.

It’s between 500,000 and 600,000. Thats a small enough amount of money that keeping a prospect’s service time down might be worth considering for a team who won’t be contending this season.

Who cares how bad the Bay deal will look in 2013, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 24, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't think any of the guys I'm talking about are true prospects

most of them already have about a years worth of service time.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 24, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah Balentine and Dickerson

have 3 and 2 years respectively, and stubs I think accrued a years worth last year.

"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'

it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.

by Gina on Mar 24, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

He was once good about 4 years ago.

by EtSuKe on Mar 24, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

He made this awesome catch, once, too.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 24, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe washington is interested now

that Dukes is gone. But for a couple milllion more you can get Dye so…..

by TheKid08 on Mar 24, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions

Except Dye may actually be less valuable than Matthews,

espescially when the Nats don’t have the option to DH him.

Who cares how bad the Bay deal will look in 2013, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway

by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 25, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions

You'll probably see the Cubs and Giants get in...

since there’s only about $2 mil they’ll pick up as well. Go with the Giants on this one. But, watch out for Omar trying to jack things up and ask for Jonathon Sanchez. That’s where (with some common sense) he could offer them Chris Carter and GM, Jr.

Danz

by Danz10 on Mar 25, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions