First Reactions Applesauce - Mets beat Braves, Beltran talks to feds, Mejia impresses Strawberry
by Joe Budd on Mar 3, 2010 10:09 AM EST
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Meet the Mets
The Mets defeated the Braves in the first semi-real baseball game of the 2010 season. What do we have to take away from the game? Ike Davis got two hits. Ryota Igarashi threw a shutout inning. And Ron Darling is already in midseason form.
Carlos Beltran, like Jose Reyes before him, will talk to the FBI about his relationship with HGH doctor Tony Galea. If Beltran had been on HGH, I'm guessing he wouldn't have been as injured as he was last year.
Darryl Strawberry sees Mariano Rivera potential in Jenrry Mejia.
Around MLB
JA Happ shows his disdain for sabermetrics. Also from the ongoing baseball civil war: a wonderful argument between nerds and the Boston baseball media.
Garrison Keillor snuck into a tour of Minnesota's new stadium and loves it.
Somehow Freddy Garcia is a leading candidate to start in a Major League rotation.
Arizona is close to a six year deal with Justin Upton. Rob Neyer gives his thoughts.
And, finally, a great story about Chris Woodward's choice to be with his two year old son rather than participate in the Boston playoff run.
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The comments on the JA Happ article are awful
But I couldn’t look away.
What makes Happ good is what makes all of the Phillies good…the TEAM. He can win games because the offense scores runs. He pitches out of jams because the defense behind him is better than the other team’s defense. Is he lucky, yes; lucky to be a Phillie. Magical times we live in these days.
Phew
I thought you’d gone turncoat on us for a second
by James Kannengieser on Mar 3, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
they were pretty terrible
Let’s look at evaluation metrics as being a progression:
Wins captures say 50% of pitcher value
ERA 60%
DIPS 70%
FIP 80%
xFIP 90%
These guys are picking the exception because he’s their man-crush. Even a tool that 99% effective is going to have a dozen exceptions at the MLB-ready level every year. The exceptions are the best part because that where the next improvement is going to come AND it’s where knowledge of the game comes in. If you can explain a guy’s high strand rate because he’s got a sick pickoff move or is unusually good from the stretch, that’s what scouting is now. Not “he looks like a ballplayer, was a PUNTER in college, and is a natural born leader.”
If I ever get cancer
they’ll be none of that newfangled chemotherapy for me; just take me to the barber to get bled.
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
Yeah we went to the barber.
And we liked it!
"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore
I liked the article though.
It did a nice job breaking down FIP in a manner that even Phillie fans should be capable of understanding, although most probably only read the first paragraph before they lost patience and went looking for a mall santa to boo.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 3, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Strawberry shut up
“I went to Omar and told him, ’You’ve got to make this guy a closer,’” Strawberry was saying in animated fashion Tuesday. "I’d definitely put him in the pen this year, I don’t care if he’s only 20. He’s got a pitch that guys can’t hit.
“He’s the only guy I’ve ever seen that reminds me of Mariano Rivera.”"
"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer
So next year around this time
when Meija’s either blown out his arm or his development has been stunted they can say it was all Strawberrys fault and luckily we’re no longer listening to the opinions of former players, not even a former pitcher, who we probably shouldn’t have been listening to in the first place.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Absolutely
Most athletes, whether current or former, seem to have a natural competitive instinct to just “play hard” and ignore big picture things.
"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer
by boom_roasted on Mar 3, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I Darryl doesn't get his way
He should rip his shirt off and challenge Dan Warthen to a fight
by Reg Dunlop on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There'd go the streak of a few months since the shirt-tearing front office incident.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 3, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Then they'd have to...
… set the clubhouse “Days Since Last Lost-Shirt Incident” sign back to 0. And nobody wants that.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Mar 3, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Straw should shut up and go home
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by Scent of a Woman on Mar 3, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Phillies would be ecstatic
if they had a pitcher with a .750+ OPS.
Just kidding. I assume you meant Kyle?
haha yea, Kyle
funny thing was I looked up Howie Kendrick on BB-Ref, saw it was the wrong guy, remembered his name was Kyle, and then came and typed Howie anyway.
2009 Did Not Happen
Great to have GKR back in my life yesterday
It had been far too long since I’d heard the Braves constantly referred to as the Bravos
I was thinking the same thing.
That was probably the best part of the game for me.
by wrightttxgirlllx3 on Mar 3, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Applesauce
I’m not too sure what to make of Strawberry saying Mejia is a young Mariano Rivera…
Lol, Happ doesn’t like being called “a raging fluke driven by an unsustainable performance with men in scoring position that was about luck, not skill.” Funny comments in the comment section, too.
That Firebrand of the AL article was great, too. I’m going to bookmark that one, and reference it when I need to.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 3, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions
Gameday is up for todays game, but it's not on the main page
Here. I think they are trying to mke it hard to find so people buy their TV package.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
I bought the package, but they are only broadcasting one game. For Mets game today, there is only the audio or the gameday. Lame.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Gameday is kinda f'd up too
Unless its just my computer
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
MLB is the worst
I’ve never, ever seen a company that actively tries to hide their product the way MLB does. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we find out one day that Bud Selig is secretly an NFL agent who is doing his best to make sure that future generations of America will never watch baseball.
2009 Did Not Happen
The NFL and NFLPA are doing their best to help.
I’m getting the feeling that a lockout might be inevitable.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 3, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't blame the NFLPA
I’d say it’s almost entirely on the owners, the players only recieve 55%, which I guess is a big number but we’re talking about a little over half of the revenue when they make up like 90% of the product. The owners want them to accept well less than half, all the way down to like 38%. When the real problem isn’t even how much the players make it’s the unwillingness of the big market team owners to increase revenue sharing.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
They really don't need to be taking everything to the media though.
At this point it looks like they are just trying to brace for the inevitable lockout and get a head start on generating good press, rather than trying to actually accomplish anything.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
55% is a pretty big number
considering a different party is taking on all the (financial) risk. Thats the way investments work. I don’t know about NFL salary caps, but on its face the number looks right. On the other hand, I would advocate no financial restraints on player contracts so that the market could decide actual value…
55% is a big number
But most problems the teams are having aren’t because of players salaries directly. It’s because the top like 3 teams, Cowboys/Redskins/Pats bring in SO much more money than everyone else they’re pushing the cap, and with it the salary floor, up faster than the other 29 teams can keep up. They NFL is basically saying these three rich guys are acting like rich douches and won’t agree to increased revenue sharing so instead we want you to give up money.
Also NFL players contracts aren’t guaranteed, so I don’t really think they’re taking on that huge of a financial risk. They can cut players and lose basically nothing at any point, and considering they’re the only sport, unless NHL does but they barely count, that’s agreed to that I’d say they’ve already made one pretty huge concession.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
like I said
I don’t know the system. I was just saying you can’t look at revenue numbers in a vacuum. There is a reason that owners get a higher percentage, and they generally deserve it. That does sound pretty bad though. I would vote for that being a clause the players could negotiate… Damn unions…
Oh I agree
like in the NBA I absolutely think players salaries are out of control and the owners should be getting a higher percentage. I just don’t think the NFL is near the same situation. I think relative to MLB and NBA players NFL players would be getting screwed hxc to get their cut taken down to 38%.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Misch was pretty good today.
3 innings, 6 groundouts which included 2 double plays.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
He's doing the Mets a favor.
He’s making it alot easier for the Mets to drop him from the 40 man without the risk of anyone claiming him.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 3, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Any chance of an Open Thread for tomorrows game since it's on tv?
Since it’s at home it’s fairly likely we’ll see some regulars.
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
Eddie Kunz got the snot beat out of him.
Effin’ shocker…
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
But Fernando!
2 for 3 with a run scored & a rib-eye steak…
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?
I refuse to pay MLB for MLB.TV
justin tv here I come
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Be careful with that.
Alot of people lately have been having issues with viruses there
Pinella: Where th f*ck was that pitch at?
Ump: Lou, don't you know that you're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition?
Pinella: Where the f*ck was that pitch at, a$$h*le?
by Stephen Schmidt on Mar 3, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think you'd get a virus
unless you click on some random link without googling it or something first. which is kind of dumb considering it’s justin.tv.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
yeah, I use streams to watch Arsenal when they're not on FSC
and I found out that there are 9 malware on my computer
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Spybot: Seach and Destroy and SuperAntiSpyware (both are free)
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 3, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
I've got Spybot
and Antimalwarebytes. I feel Norton Anti Virus sucks
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Yes, it does.
I was recommended AVG, which you can get a free version of.
The moderators at the Safer-Networking forums are very knowledgeable about malware removal, programs to use, and things of that nature, and give free, step-by-step directions on what to do to ID and eliminate all kinds of computer malaises.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
First time I read that, I thought you were talking about the Site Bot.
"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore
If anyone does buy MLB.tv...
Don’t be stupid like me and buy the monthly package. Pay it all up front… so much cheaper.
In my defense, I bought it 4am yesterday… wasn’t exactly thinking straight.
"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer
Call them and tell them you want to upgrade to the full season
they’ll probably be happy to just switch it.
Good stuff on Woodward
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: anyone who uses Dire Straits for intro music is OK in my book.
"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore
Lets just hope the woodward curse doesn't bite us again this year.
by KeithsMoustache on Mar 3, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it would mean for me to say I wish certain players got the swine flu
But I wouldn’t necessarily mind some of them find a way to get sidelined for 162 games this year.
"I've been trying transcendental meditation, and that helps me be passive and wait on the curve. I've got to find something else to hit the slider." - George (The Stork) Theodore
Hey, we did better when we had Woodward on the team, so is it really that much of a curse?
2005 was a decent season, and, of course, 2006 was good. We let him him go after 2006 ended, and haven’t been nearly as good since…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 4, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
the curse was from letting him go
see my well thought out analysis on the topic
Chris Woodward’s Curse
by KeithsMoustache on Mar 4, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
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