System Overview Part One: The Upper Minors
Buffalo Bisons (Triple-A)
| Hitters | Pos. | # |
|---|---|---|
| Outfielders | ||
| Carter, Chris | RF | 35 |
| Feliciano, Jesus | LF | 23 |
| Martinez, Fernando | LF | 8 |
| Pridie, Jason | CF | 11 |
| Infielders | ||
| Adams, Russ | 2B | 38 |
| Cervenak, Mike | 3B | 22 |
| Cintron, Alex | 2B | 12 |
| Davis, Ike | 1B | 20 |
| Green, Andy* | 3B | |
| Hessman, Mike | 3B | 27 |
| Tejada, Rubin | SS | 7 |
| Catchers | ||
| Santos, Omir | C | 10 |
| Thole, Josh | C | 15 |
| Pitchers | Thw | # |
|---|---|---|
| Acosta, Manny | R | 46 |
| Blackley, Travis | L | |
| Calero, Kiko | R | 49 |
| Dessens, Elmer | R | 31 |
| Dickey, R.A. | R | 19 |
| Egbert, Jack* | R | |
| Gee, Dillon | R | 18 |
| Livingston, Bobby | L | 47 |
| Misch, Pat | L | 48 |
| Muniz, Carlos* | R | |
| O'Connor, Michael | L | 54 |
| Parnell, Bobby | R | 39 |
| Pettyjohn, Adam | L | 26 |
*Currently on 7-Day Disabled List
Team Notes
- The most notable element of this roster is the quartet of young left handed hitters who could see big league action this year: Chris Carter, Ike Davis, Fernando Martinez, and Josh Thole. Carter (.321 / .387 / .679) and Davis (.357 / .514 / .679) are both off to scorching starts while Martinez (.265 / .286 / .353) and Thole (.042 / .115 / .042) are not. Fortunately, Carter and Davis, both capable of playing first base, would fill a more pressing Major League need right now than Martinez or Thole. Why they are both in Triple-A while Mike Jacobs and Frank Catalanotto are occupying roster spots is beyond me, though I suspect with Davis they're waiting at least two weeks to consider promoting him so they can delay his service time and keep him in the organization for an extra year.
- The other position prospect on the Bisons roster--Ruben Tejada--joins Martinez and Thole in being off to a sluggish start, hitting just .091 / .115 / .091 in seven games since being sent back to Triple-A. Tejada had just collected his first Major League hit in his final plate appearance in the majors while filling in for the rehabbing Jose Reyes before he was sent down.
- Mike Hessman--who came into the year as the active minor league career home run leader--has already added four bombs to his record and is hitting .310 / .364 / .759. A right handed batter who can play all four corners and a solid defensive infielder, he would make a fine replacement for Fernando Tatis should the need arise.
- Dillon Gee is doing his very best to make us forget that Nelson Figueroa is no longer in the organization. The top pitching prospect on the Bisons has yet to allow a run in two starts and 13 innings so far this year, registering 12 strikeouts and flashing excellent command with just one walk. Gee is still fresh off of a right shoulder injury that he spent the better part of the 2009 season rehabbing, though you'd never know it based on his first two outings of 2010. He's quickly establishing himself as the first logical callup should the need for a starting pitcher arise with the big league club.
- Tobi Stoner was just called up from the Bisons, to give Jerry Manuel a fresh arm to
useruin after Saturday's 20 inning debacle of a win. Stoner's results in two for the Bisons starts have been more mixed: four runs in just 8.1 innings with five strikeouts and three walks. Since he'll probably be used out of the bullpen, I can't fault the organization for opting to tap Stoner rather than Gee here. Expect Stoner's big league assignment to be temporary. - The other option the organization should have been considering for a callup was Bobby Parnell, who spent all of 2009 on the Major League roster. Parnell has yet to allow a run in four relief appearances, though he's walked four and struck out just three in 5.1 innings.
Binghamton Mets (Double-A)
| Hitters | Pos. | # |
|---|---|---|
| Outfielders | ||
| Duda, Lucas | OF | 27 |
| Evans, Nick | LF | 24 |
| Guzman, Carlos | RF | 13 |
| Nieuwenhuis, Kirk | CF | 22 |
| Wabick, D.J. | LF | 18 |
| Infielders | ||
| Coronado, Jose | 2B | 8 |
| Hernandez, Luis | SS | 9 |
| Hubbard, Marshall | 1B | 26 |
| Lutz, Zach | 3B | 7 |
| Malo, Jonathon | 2B | 2 |
| Catchers | ||
| Montz, Luke | C | 15 |
| Nickeas, Mike | C | 50 |
| Riggans, Shawn* | C | 1 |
| Pitchers | Thw | # |
|---|---|---|
| Antonini, Michael |
L | 23 |
| Coultas, Ryan* | R | |
| De La Torre, Jose | R | 5 |
| Ellison, Derek | L | 44 |
| Everts, Clint | R | 17 |
| Frederick, Emary* | R | 13 |
| Holt, Bradley* | R | 43 |
| Kunz, Eddie | R | 44 |
| Lujan, John | R | 47 |
| Madden, John* | R | |
| Merritt, Roy | L | 45 |
| Niesen, Eric | L | 20 |
| Owen, Dylan | R | 32 |
| Ramirez, Edgar | R | 25 |
| Shaw, Scott | R | 38 |
| Stinson, Josh | R | 19 |
*Currently on 7-Day Disabled List
Team Notes
- The big story early in Binghamton is third baseman Zach Lutz. His professional career has been delayed by injuries, so he hasn't received tons of attention as a prospect, but almost every piece written about him includes the caveat "but he can hit". The opening weeks of this season have been no exception. Lutz has now homered in three straight games and hit in eight straight, bringing his line up to .343 / .477 / .714. He's leading the Eastern league in homers, slugging, and OPS. If he proves he can handle Double-A pitching over an extended period--especially with this kind of power--he may start gaining some momentum as a late blooming prospect with legitimate upside.
- Another semi-surprise that one might have seen coming is 1B/OF Lucas Duda. Throughout his minor league career he's always had a high walk rate, but he finally seemed to be finding his power stroke in the second half of last year. Through 2009's first three months, he managed just four homers in 261 ABs, but he outpaced himself in the seasons second half, hitting five long balls in his final 129 ABs. He's picked up right where he left off in 2010, having already hit three bombs along with five doubles, and his early season batting line is at .289 /.404 / .658. Like Lutz, he's a bit old for the Eastern League and blocked by a number of players in Triple-A, but if he can continue to show that his apparent power breakout is for real, he's another late blooming sleeper candidate.
- For the third straight season, Nick Evans Who?, as he is officially known around these parts, has set out to prove that he can handle Double-A pitching. And for the third straight season he is doing just that, hitting at .395 / .455 / .737 so far. Its hard not to feel for this guy at this point, but with Chris Carter, Fernando Martinez, Ike Davis, and Mike Hessman all in Triple-A, there really wasn't anywhere higher in the minors to put him.
- "Captain" Kirk Nieuwenhuis is also off to a solid start in Double-A, albeit without the power production of the first three hitters discussed. He's hitting .302 / .348 / .419. One recalls his scorching second half from 2009, so perhaps he's just waiting for the weather to warm up before taking advantage of his new, more hitter friendly environment.
- On the pitching side, Dylan Owen is trying to do his best Dillon Gee impression, having allowed just three runs (one earned) thus far over two starts and 11.0 innings. He's not missing as many bats or showing off such devastating command, however, having struck out eight and walked four. Still, few thought Owen would ever be able to handle upper level hitters, so any progress is encouraging.
- Eric Niesen is also off to a decent start. His ERA through three starts is pretty, at 3.08. However, while he's missing plenty of bats (10 strikeouts), his command has been spotty (nine walks), and he hasn't lasted deep into any of his starts (11.0 innings).
- The Eddie Kunz rotation experiment is not going well thus far. He's given up 10 runs in 8.1 innings, walking nine and striking out just five. Some growing pains were expected, so we can overlook a performance like this for now, but these results are simply unacceptable.
Up Next, we'll take a look at the Middle Minors: The St. Lucie Mets (High-A) and Savannah Sand Gnats (Full Season-A)
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It’s kind of crazy that they’d only call up one reliever, especially with Maine on the mound.
And wasn’t Lutz playing 2nd last year? Or do I have him confused with someone else? If he was. Wouldn’t it make more sense to leave him at the “harder” position, and the one we actually have a need in, especially since Coronado isn’t exactly a prospect at this point?
Also as far as Evans, couldn’t he take over some of those innings being given to guys like Feliciano and Hessman, since they’re not exactly prospects and I can’t imagine there’s much chance of them ever getting a call up to the ml roster. Or hell why not even try him out at 2nd, are they really learning anything seeing him hit the same AA pitching he’s torched 3 years in a row?
And to top off their greatest season yet the new jersey nets scored 86 points...in double overtime. yes a professional basketball team only mustered 86 points in 58 minutes of basketball.
Nope Lutz is a straight third baseman
He’s not super mobile but he’s known as having good reactions and a pretty decent glove at third.
I have a hard time faulting the organization for putting Evans in Double-A at this point. He needs to keep getting ABs and just as importantly playing in the field. He is very much behind Carter and Fernando on the totem pole. Feliciano’s already only a part time outfielder in Triple-A, and they don’t want Evans filling that role. For the organization, its a good problem to have, they’re looking quite deep at all four corners in the upper levels right now. Of course, this is all assuming that Chris Carter didn’t make the majors. If Carter were with the Mets, it would clear a spot for Evans in Buffalo, which may happen soon.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 18, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a shame that we finally look deep in the corners
the same year we go out and drop massive money on a corner outfielder in free agency. After ignoring it for so many years.
And to top off their greatest season yet the new jersey nets scored 86 points...in double overtime. yes a professional basketball team only mustered 86 points in 58 minutes of basketball.
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But who is Nick Evans and Chris Carter?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
much appreciated
love these kinds of farm system reports.
i’ve been thinking more and more that the organization may have seen bowman as expendable as a result of lutz’s scorching second half of ’09 and his hot start to 2010. not that i agree w/ it…
also, is there any point to having roy merritt spend another year at Double-A when he has clearly demonstrated his LOOGY ability so dominantly that he could probably handle it in queens today? especially w/ the team stressing for the last 3 seasons about backing felicano up w/ another lefty?
and will they just trade nick evans for andy sonnanstine already?
Is it only me that wants 95% of the Bisons more than they want most of the current Mets?
Ike, Chris Carter, Nick Evans, F-Mart, Gee… no way they don’t play better than their up here counterparts. Except maybe Martinez cause nothing’s changing with that OF.
at least with Carter and Evans
we’d have way more flexibility than with Cats and Jacobs. since they can play first and two corner spots. Is anyone really excited for that day when Pagan and Frenchy/Bay both get rested and we see GMjr and Tatis in the outfield, and likely Jacobs at first.
And to top off their greatest season yet the new jersey nets scored 86 points...in double overtime. yes a professional basketball team only mustered 86 points in 58 minutes of basketball.
And did anyone else feel like our bench must have been ten times shorter than the Cards?
with all the switches they made?
And to top off their greatest season yet the new jersey nets scored 86 points...in double overtime. yes a professional basketball team only mustered 86 points in 58 minutes of basketball.
It really felt like it did.
I’d have Carter and Evans up over Jacobs/Smithtown and Pridie over GMJ. Pridie’s been bad offensively .222/.263/.541, if I’m not mistaken he’s a good defensive OF and can’t be any worse than Matthews. It provides much more versatility for a very low price.
Sunny days ahead? Probably not.
Oh I agree with that
but one of the reasons they mishandle, and one of the reasons ever mishandling is so major, is because our minor league system is so thin, some Rangers fans are annoyed at Feliz in the bullpen, although he’s been handled 100x better than Meija has, but at the end of the day it’s not nearly as big of a deal because along with Feliz they have Hunter, Perez, Holland and probably a few other top tier pitching starting pitching prospects who are basically ML ready. After Meija, we have pretty much nothing, I mean we have guys but none of them are anywhere near ready or with the upside of Meija. The Red Sox could put Masterson and Bowden in the bullpen, and then move them at the deadline, because they’d recently graduated Lester and still had Bucholz and Bard. If we mishandle or move even 2-3 prospects it will create massive holes and major long-term prospects.
And to top off their greatest season yet the new jersey nets scored 86 points...in double overtime. yes a professional basketball team only mustered 86 points in 58 minutes of basketball.
We acquired so much that we have no use for
So much dross.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
It's Clear Why They Are Holding Up Ike
With a top notch prospect, especially one that has only one good professional year, it makes sense to put him in AAA for a bit to keep him at the majors for additional year.
However with Evans and Carter it doesn’t make sense to keep them in the minors while we have inferior players in the majors who we don’t have that much to gain from trying to maintain control over them for an additional year. The superior offense and additional defensive versatility that we would gain makes it seem like such a clear no-brainer (cue in FO jab here).
Look at the bench players we are currently putting out there (OBP / SLG / OBP):
Jacobs: .296 / .375 / .671
GMJr: .308 / .273 / .580
Cora: .292 / .286 / .577
Tatis: .240 / .217 / .457
Smithtown: .100 / .100 / .200
Blanco: .091 / .000 / .091
One of the main reasons I have some optimism for 2011 is that with promotions of a very solid group of players such as FMart, Ike, Carter, Tejada, Thole, etc we can see a large influx of young, cheap talented players that will at the very least give us 1-2 solid starters and a solid bench. The most interesting question is what will we do with FMart now that we have Bay, Beltran, and Frenchy. It seems that we will have to keep him as the 4th outfielder for a year before Beltran and Frenchy hit the market or trade Beltran or Frenchy next year, based on if we can get someone to sign early with us.
Isn't it
practically impossible to trade Carlos? Once he hits FA, teams can’t offer him arbitration so if he walks, they won’t be able to obtain draft picks for losing him.
Sunny days ahead? Probably not.
Yeah I'd imagine if nothing else we'd have to eat a big part of his contract
and not get enough value back for it to even be worth it unless he just falls off a cliff.
And to top off their greatest season yet the new jersey nets scored 86 points...in double overtime. yes a professional basketball team only mustered 86 points in 58 minutes of basketball.
Reese Havens
Anyone sure of his whereabouts? I recall hearing something about a strained oblique, but am not sure.
Mack's Mets has him listed as on the DL with an oblique strain
He’s not listed on the team website though. I imagine Mack’s accurate but I can’t find anything about Havens anywhere else.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 18, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
havens
he is indeed on the dl w/ an “oblique injury”, i’m assuming that means its strained. toby hyde said here that havens is slated to start in binghamton once he comes back which shouldn’t be an issue w/ coronado and malo in his way. as far as the roster spot, i bet you he takes nick evans spot who i bet will be graduating back to buff to take ike’s spot.
by Rob Castellano on Apr 18, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, thinking about it
I’m guessing they just left him in Extended Spring Training so he can stay out of the cold weather while he heals. Injuries are gradually become a serious concern with him though.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 18, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Would Valdespin(SP?)
eventually make for a better option down the line instead of Havens? From what I saw of him in ST, he hit decently and displayed a lot of range at 2b.
Sunny days ahead? Probably not.
decent question
valdespin definitely opened some eyes last year in his first full season but remember, he was old for his league at all 3 stops (though so was havens) and while his batting line looked nice, you can expect that .322 AVG to erode as he climbs the minor league ladder due to his pretty terrible K/BB rates. after that, he doesn’t show any other plus skill, he has nice speed which i’m sure supports his range on defense (like you mentioned) but he’s not a burner and doesn’t have much power. plus, he had off the field issues too.
to me, despite probably having a worse ‘09, havens is the better long-term option thanks to his 2 plus skills, his power and his plate discipline which are much more maintainable even as he ascends. i’m getting worried about the injuries but still pick him over valdespin.
by Rob Castellano on Apr 19, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Valdespin is much more difficult to project than Havens. Havens has the advantage of a major league frame, and as you said, plate discipline and power. Even his contact rate is surprisingly good considering the low averages. He’s not fast, that’s his one weakness on the field, otherwise, injuries are his only real bugaboo and the only thing that’s held him back from climbing the ladder alongside draft-mate Ike Davis. I still think he could wind up a better player than Davis, but its looking more and more likely that he’s simply going to wind up too fragile to really be an impact player, which is a shame, because he really has a lot going for him otherwise.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 19, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
There’s a big difference between Low-A and HiA in the Mets system. Traditional wisdom says that the biggest jump (aside from Triple-A to majors) is from HiA to Double-A, and while that’s especially true of pitchers in the Mets system, for hitters, the jump from LowA to HiA is probably bigger. The SAL is either the most or second most hitter friendly environment the Mets have an affiate in, while the FSL is by far the most pitcher friendly. Just look at what Lutz is doing now and what Davis and Nieuwenhuis did last year. The difference between the FSL and Eastern League for hitters is more a matter of park size vs. pitcher quality that makes them appear pretty close to statistically identical in terms of difficulty.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 19, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions































