Mets Cut Nelson Figueroa, Chris Carter, Bobby Parnell, More
by Eric Simon on Apr 2, 2010 9:37 PM EDT
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PrintPer Adam Rubin, the Mets have cut the following players.
- Nelson Figueroa
- Chris Carter
- Bobby Parnell
- Kiko Calero
- Elmer Dessens
- Russ Adams
Which I believe means that Fernando Nieve gets the last bullpen spot with Frank Catalanotto taking the final seat on the bench.
Here's the Opening Day roster as I see it.
Pitchers
Johan Santana
Mike Pelfrey
Jon Niese
John Maine
Oliver Perez
Francisco Rodriguez
Pedro Feliciano
Hisanori Takahashi
Ryota Igarashi
Sean Green
Fernando Nieve
Jenrry Mejia
Batters
Rod Barajas
Henry Blanco
Mike Jacobs
Luis Castillo
David Wright
Alex Cora
Jason Bay
Gary Matthews Jr.
Jeff Francoeur
Angel Pagan
Fernando Tatis
Frank Catalanotto
Ruben Tejada
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I can't believe
They cut Figgy.
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
by EMSfan9 on Apr 2, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Idiocy x4
Cutting Carter in favor of Jacobs is bad, cutting him in favor of Cattawhatever is worse.
Cutting Adams so that you can start Tejada’s arb clock for a week of service = moronic.
Cutting Figgy and losing him forever to keep Green — who has options! — on the roster is pathetic.
And cutting Calero for Mejia is plainly irresponsible.
by Dan Lewis on Apr 2, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Adams was pretty awful in the field, though
by The 'Ropolitans on Apr 2, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah exactly
they’re going to start his clock so he can sit on the bench for a week…why not just keep hernandez?
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Whatevs. Nothing we can do about it now.
Tick, tock, tick…$$$
by The 'Ropolitans on Apr 2, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Arb clock?
Isn’t that based off of service time? Tejada is only going to be up with the club for what, 7-10 days max? I think you mean his option years clock, which I really wouldn’t worry about either; by the time his option years expire, I would fully expect him to be a useful big leaguer, even if its just a utility infielder.
Rooting for the Mets: priceless.
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on Apr 3, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I can say, catagorically and without hesitation that through our suffering and torment this past 3 seasons and now coming out of this spring training
THERE IS NO GOD!
How could there be a God who would let an abomination like this team live? I am cast asunder with no hope of savior.
Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."
by scott from peekskill on Apr 4, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it's a test
maybe in heaven the mets win the pennant every year
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or perhaps this is the end of days.
Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."
by scott from peekskill on Apr 4, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW, thanks for my new signature!
Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."
by scott from peekskill on Apr 4, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
like, really. With Murphy out they didn’t even have to choose between Nieve vs Figgy or Jacobs vs Carter… and yet they still f*cked it up.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
by Gina on Apr 2, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Blart.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 2, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
No
Only Figgy is likely gone for good.
by James Kannengieser on Apr 2, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Carter might as well be gone
no one’s seen Nick Evans since we sit him down last spring.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Ah.......still, this is the very worst possible thing that could have happened
Three very deserving players get sent down, and we’ll probably see our best pitching prospect get turned into a reliever
and arguably one of our top 4 starters
(which isn’t saying much considering his competition), heading to Japan. So that when Maine inevitably goes down, or Ollie has one of who’s 2 inning implosions and they try to hide him in the minors for a few weeks we’ll get to see Pat Misch.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
This is the most disappointed I've been in the Mets in a very long time
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
by metsguy234 on Apr 2, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
The worst part is:
Perhaps the best thing that can happen to the franchise, at this point, is Figueroa signing with the Phillies and just outright dominating us in a May matchup. It’d seal the fate of Omar and probably Jerry as well.
I am not going to root against this team, but disaster may be the only way out.
Oh wow
that’s somewhere my brain didn’t go. And you might have a point considering Blanton on DL and it’s being reported they’re looking for pitching.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The Phillies will probably put Kendrick in the rotation
He had a great spring. Show’s you what happens when a ML pitcher develops secondary pitches. Kudos to Kendrick.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
This is the thing that sticks in the back of my head constantly
I can’t root for the Mets to fail, but failure in concept would be better for this team than simple mediocrity.
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
This is going to happen.
It just is.
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 3, 2010 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe they’re still selling those.
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 3, 2010 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It's like Major League the movie
Sad and mind-boggling.
The only logical explanation
is the Wilpons are setting up the team to fail so they can move to a warmer climate. Maybe Port St. Lucie for good, maybe Puerto Rico, who knows? And how about these scary coincidences: K-Rod=Charlie Sheen (glasses and all), Barajas/Blanco=Tom Berenger… Maybe Jerry will catch wind of the plan and keep a cut out of Fred Wilpon in a bikini in the locker room to inspire the team.
Seriously
The thing that pisses me off most about this organization is that they seem to not give certain players a fair chance. A lot of these guys (esp. Calero/Carter/Figgy) could have helped the team, but they just went with the old favorites.
In addition to all that stuff, this now appears to kick off The Joba Experiment 2.0: Jenrry Mejia Edition. I can see it now. First he’s the setup man this year. Next year he starts, then goes back to the bullpen after struggling. 2012 he’s in the bullpen to start, then shines and heads back to the rotation. By 2013 he’s just completely screwed up.
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
Except with Jerry and Warthen leading him
his off-speed stuff won’t even be good enough for them to jerk him around.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Also Lou absolutely has it right with his signature
really I think deep down we all knew they were going to pick Jacobs over Carter. But did anyone really think there was a chance of them picking F-cat? It’s like no matter how low we set the bar they want to make sure we know it can go lower.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Mind boggling
Green? I mean really, Green?
I really thought the idea here was to preserve as much depth in the minors as we could until MOP and Niese were battle tested. That’s not going to happen as you know we probably lost Figgy.
We're in win now mode, obviously.
And by “obviously”, I mean “in Minaya’s head.”
by Dan Lewis on Apr 2, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but even that doesn't make it make any more sense
if we’re in win now mode calero/figgy would be way more useful than green/nieve/meija.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Calero might just be staying behind to recover arm strength...
But picking Green and Nieve over Figueroa is completely indefensible
Nieve
doesn’t bother me nearly as much as Green.
I kind of thought going into this week Nieve was going to make the cut.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah so did I
I could have lived with Nieve over Figgy, just because that’s the kind of stupid I expect, and Jacobs over Carter. But Green over Figgy and Cats over Carter is just a whole new level of stupid I was unprepared for.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
by Gina on Apr 2, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Mets 2010 slogan;
“a whole new level of stupid you are unprepared for.”
"Wait till Biggus Dickus hears about this!"
by scott from peekskill on Apr 4, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Only
I don’t think Valdes gets that last spot. I’ll bet it’s Mejia.
KRod Pedro Green Iggy Taka Nieve Mejia
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Omg if Valdes gets it
I’ll probably buy an in Omar we trust t-shirt.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
For betterr or worse
This is who we go to war with to start the season.
I hope they know what they’re doing……
LGM!
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
We're bringing a pea shooter to this war
by James Kannengieser on Apr 2, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like you could use some Spartan Spirit...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You could use some Spartan Spirit anyway.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Arrogance.
Putting Mejia on the roster after 44 middling innings in AA and 15 middling innings in Spring Training over Figueroa is just the height of arrogance. It’s the same thing as trading Castro after 50 Santos at bats… there was really no good reason not to kick the can down the road and wait on making the decision with the larger roster impact until you had more information.
But the Mets must know better, and they certainly must know that Figgy won’t be useful to them over the course of a 162 game season with an injury-prone pitching staff.
Ridiculous. Just ridiculous.
by sjohnson125 on Apr 2, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
To be honest
I’d almost prefer that to them just being too stupid to live.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Figgy, at least
has a rubber arm.
I truly don’t get this.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I am perplexed...
But I think it’s a combination of the Mets’ organizational arrogance (see: the “oppo” drill) and the fact that Minaya and Manuel are fighting for their jobs.
the thing is I don't understand how any of this improves their chance at keeping their jobs
I guess maybe they think they need to keep Green so it looks like they got something from the trade, but do they really think Frank Cats is going to save their jobs?
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Mejia
I would hazard a guess that they don’t see Figgy as a conventional “reliever” as much as Green, and they may have been taken by the fact that Green looked better during the last week of spring.
But I think the “jobs” thing is most evident with Mejia…
yeah I can sort of see that
except I’m dumbfounded that they still think a reliever could make or break a season.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Especially since their starters
are terrible
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
except for Johan
but I always think thats implied
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it's not even like Johan plays for this mess
he’s like an angel who comes down to drag us down from the ledge every 5 days.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
by Gina on Apr 2, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Figgy gets no respect
What more does he have to prove. He had the best numbers this spring out of all the starters. What a bif F’ up on this.
im blind with rage at this
rage and drunkenness, but mostly rage.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
My initial anger has turned into depression
By the time I made it to this post
by Mike Clemente on Apr 2, 2010 11:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mine has turned to drunkeness
The high gravity IPA i’ve been brewing was finally ready tonight. It was delicious, but it hits like a truck.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
cheers for home-brewing
and for india pale ales.
Its a great hobby
I get high quality beer way cheaper than it would normally cost, and I can make it taste however I want. And IPAs are my favorite type of beer.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 3, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s very easy to root for Figgy.
He really seems like a genuinely nice person and appears to be a hard worker. But Figgy is not a season difference maker. Success or failure for this team will not depend on whether or not they keep Figgy. Figgy is not the second coming of Juan Marichal no matter what some Mets fans seem to believe. He is a prototypical AAAA pitcher. Pitchers with command possessing an assortment of marginal stuff do very well in the Mexican league.
It's just incredible how dumb these people are
I would give anything to have been a fly on the wall during the meeting of the “minds” that came up with this plan.
I mean, we’re looking at 80 wins and a future without Omar or Jerry. So in the end, there’s at least a silver lining
Count Your Blessings
There is only one likely candidate in the area who buys the team if the Wilpons sell, and he’s already ruined two of my favorite teams. I don’t think I could stand the Mets run by James Dolan
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Apr 2, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This
is very true.
Careful what we wish for….
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
not true
if my 5-30 year plans works out we could be owned by one Russian billionaire playboy.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Hmm, Hadn't considered that.
I suppose its possible, but he just bought a major franchise on the edge of the abyss. One would think he’d want to work on that one for awhile before he picked us up of the refuse pile. Christ, at this point even the Nationals look better run then us, and they haven’t left the basement since they started playing in Washington
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Apr 2, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG amen to this thought
It would make an awesome SNL sketch
Manuel: I like Figgy but the fact that he said he’d go to Japan instead of Buffalo is poor.
Minaya: True, poor attitude. You know who has a good attitude…and great hair? Jacobs. He looks good. I remember back in ‘05, he was, you know, incredible, you know?
Manuel: No doubt. Most definitely.
Minaya: And I know Calero was good last year, but my theory is if he was good year, he’ll be terrible this year.
Manuel: Do you have stats to back that theory up?
Both of them: Stats? ahahahahahahahahaaa!
by Mackey Sasser on Apr 3, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
No
Because he’s not the only one reporting it.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I know we like to joke about how the front office is dumb and all but...
That’s poor, Omar. That’s poor…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
I AM PULLING MY HAIR OUT AND THE SEASON HAS NOT EVEN STARTED !!
This is the worst possible series of moves!!! The worst!! FIGGY COULD BE YOUR SECOND BEST STARTER!!! JACOBS BATTING CLEANUP!!! Stop it. Omar you have won the contest!!! Drayton Moore you are in second to stay. I hope the Phillies, Braves or Marlins pick up FIggy and he hits three home runs off Ollie, Meja and Nieve. I hope Chris Carter demands a trade and goes to the Marlins and hits 30 home runs while Jacobs bats 100. and GMJ is still on the roster and will probably start opening day as well.
THIS IS ROCK BOTTOM. The Mets are run by an group of men who got swindled by Madoff and are now getting fleeced by Manuel and Minaya.
Thus endth my rant. Thank you for your attention.
You think THIS is rock bottom?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Things can, and will only get worse for this team…
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
yeah that's the problem
everytime I think they’ve hit rock bottom they manage to get worse. So I’m just frightened at whats to come at this point.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
you want to now what we can look forward to
Mets trading F-Mart for Arroyo or Harang
well, as bad as that sounds
I would not object to us obtaining Aaron Harang
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
But, he's gangsta.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
well, duh
but hey, surely the Reds could use a young studly man like Daniel Murphy.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
yeah he's apparently been interested
in acquiring him from us.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
You ever read the Metsblog comments
I remember one guy, either there or at Metsmerized suggested the the Mets trade Fernando for Arroyo, then another guy said that it was unrealistic, there was no way the Reds would accept Fernando for a guy like Arroyo.
ugh I use to be a frequent poster
but eventually my brain just couldn’t take it anymore. I think the last straw was someone posting that we should offer Jon Daniels Pelfrey and Murphy for Kinsler and he should accept it because we’re the mets and they’re just the rangers.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Were the two guys Omar and Manuel?
Sounds like the stupid ideas they have
Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."
by scott from peekskill on Apr 4, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
this is rock bottom right now
It will get worse and worse
Mets 2010:
Journey to the Center of the Earth
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
by squid92 on Apr 2, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
the center of the earth is the densest
…jerry manuel…
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
by squid92 on Apr 2, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you I hope a NL East team picks up Figgy
This is a joke because Minaya/Manuel’s jobs are in jeporady if they don’t get off to a good start. So Screw the future of this organization so they can have job security!! Total BS!! Don’t they get it send Mejia down, Bring him up in July as a Starter. Figgy gone!!! What happens now when Ollie is 1-5 7.45 ERA and Maine goes on the DL where’s the starting rotation Depth. O they are not looking that far ahead because they only care about saving their asses now!!!!
NOT FIGGY!
Almost Every single one of those moves was stupid beyond words. But the most detrimental was cutting Figgy. Now he is going to pitch for Japan. He has a rubber arm. He can long relieve (which i thought he had locked up??), start, or go in about any other possible situation. he had good stuff all spring and you cut him for a lot of pitchers and hitters that dont deserve spots on the bench/bullpen. THIS IS GARBAGE WILPONS NEED TO FIRE EVERYONE.
Including themselves for letting this go on for too long (and possibly having some involvement in it)
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The Wilpons are themselves garbage.
There is nothing redeemable about the organization. Aside from a few intelligent people on their staffs, it is venality and idiocy from top to bottom.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yes
When a team is bad for so long there is only one person to blame. The owner.
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the insanity of it
We haven’t been a bad team since Omar came here except for last year
This roster could have been built to compete for a wildcard at worst if we had someone smart at the helm…. but now we’ll be lucky to finish third
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
no way we end up in third.
I think last is a real possibilty now.
if that was sarcastic
then your wrong. The owners can be the ones to blame when every move the GM and Coach makes is wrong. No one can fire the Wilpons, but i wish someone could because aside from shelling out money, they are not doing their job of monitoring the people below them.
I think we can pretty much rule out any intelligent life
in the FO, in case anyone still though there was some. I can’t root for failure, but I can’t say I wouldn’t take it if it meant no more of the Omar and Jerry Idiot Hour. I mean really, why would you do that to Figgy, especially in favor of Green, who is inconsistent at best. To quote Riley Freeman, “That’s a bitch move Omar! I’m comin for that ass again, till you pay what you owe (Or get tossed out on your ass).”
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Apr 2, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Dude
ROOT FOR FAILURE.
Not just for the sake of the team, but for the sake of justice. This organization DESERVES failure. If they luck into a freak 90 wins and make the playoffs, it will be totally undeserved. It will also be the worst possible outcome for the team. Omar would get a lifetime extension.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't root for failure.
If it happens, alright, but…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Living proof that I can.
It’s about the only thing about this team that I enjoy rooting for.
David Wright and Jose Reyes have monster years, utter failure everywhere else. 60 some-odd wins, and last place. It’s hard to root for Dub and Reyes because their excellence will be wasted by execrable management. So the only real unmitigated fun is in losing.
It’s like rooting for the Nets to make history for futility, except this will be much more satisfying.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
There is some irony there.
Call it poetic license. Losing is never fun, but here, it is necessary.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Failure guarantees nothing
Change may occur, but things could get worse
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
and, you root for failure
you root for Reyes and Wright to get sick of this crap and move on at the end of their contracts.
Are you sure they won't move on anyway
if the front office continues to be incompetent and the fan base continues to not appreciate them?
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
And I'll continue to cheer Wright and Reyes
And I won’t have to care about the Mets anymore. Best possible outcome if you ask me.
Without Reyes and Wright on the team, there is NO reason whatsoever not to love the Mets failures.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I’d hope they did well wherever they went and root for them. But I couldn’t even stop caring about/loving the mets.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Well, this is in context
I would vastly prefer that the Mets institute some radical overhalls and win (or at least contend) with Wright and Reyes.
That is becoming highly improbable, however, and I would prefer to see Reyes and Wright appreciated and contending elsewhere than remain in this wretched organization.
Once the Mets are competently run again, I will go back to them. But this bunch of losers have no claim to my heart.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Santana. But, really, just him.
Maybe if Nelson didn’t leave for Japan, or get claimed by another team, and got called up to start, him, too.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You root for the uniform
Period
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
by Syler on Apr 2, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
yeah this I may hate everything about them
but I could never not love them.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
by Gina on Apr 2, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know I say that I'n not going to watch and games/care about them...
but that’s all lies. I’ll be watching Opening Day, and as many other games as I’ll be able to catch.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You can feel free to root for the uniform.
I don’t mind you rooting for the uniform.
To each his own. I hate the Wilpons and Omar what they have done to the Mets. I am more of a fan of our two home-grown boys than I am a fan of the Mets in general I guess.
When the Wilpons are gone, I’ll be back on board.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I pretty much became a baseball/Mets fan when I read a SI article on Jose Reyes. If they no longer exist on this team and move on elsewhere, I may just follow them. It gets harder and harder to root for a team that just doesn’t seem to care.
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Exactly
and a few favorites even more who are wearing that uni.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 2, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
at what point
does the team you grew up loving turn into just another team?
is this the same mets team we all grew up with? what do we owe a team that is this poorly run?
at what point does blind loyalty give way to customer satisfaction? this is a terrible product that we as fans, and if you live in new york as tax payers in the form of city bonds, are paying for.
do we not have the right to complain and boycott?
we have the right
but do we have the fortitude?I’ll complain like its going out of style, but I don’t think I could bring myself to not watch baseball (or at least this parody version the Mets are playing).
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
things could get worse regardless
failure at least makes it more likely a change will happen.
in billionaire russian playboys we trust.
Probability
Mets have good year = Omar gets lifetime extension and 3 more years to prove he’s a moron.
Mets have bad year is a higher probability that changes occur. Our management is the worst in baseball bar none. It’s more likely that we get better.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I really am in a state of shock.
Losing Figgy!! Did anybody see this coming? Was there a hint of it from Omar or Manuel? It makes no sense given what we have seen in spring. Why would they do this? Was it the runs he gave up in that Marlins game? I can’t understand this level of dumbness
It's Omar. Get used to it.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This is ridiculous
I’ve never been so negative about the Mets BEFORE A SEASON HAS STARTED. You know it’s bad when we’re all bitching about losing a journeyman righthander but god dammit! This hhas gone on long enough. Haven’t they listened to a word about what the fans have to say? The Wilpons are going to have to start being accountable the fans because by mid season, maybe Citi field will look like the Marlins should be playing there.
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The Wilpons are used-car salesmen
They’re not interested in selling a solid product, they’re interested in getting you excited and getting the thing off the lot. Mejia does that job. Figgy, though he could be solidly useful, doesn’t. The season doesn’t look like a playoff season, so let’s get some tickets sold this spring.
by SuperT on Apr 2, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was so excited for the season.. but now..
I am just considering boycotting the Mets.. seriously this is by far the worst cut I have ever seen in my life. Someone has to stop the madness, and the only people who can are the clueless Wilpons… I say no one show up to the games or watch them to get their attention.. There has to be something we can do to get through to these people.. there is a countless number of blogs and sites dedicated to the stupidity of Minaya and Manuel, they should take a peek once in a while…
I for one have had it.
I might watch one or two innings per week of the Mets. Nothing will come of it, such is the nature of sports and their fans, but I for one, can’t take it any longer.
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by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand what you're saying...
but it isn’t the teams fault management is stupid
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
but management is part of the team
and as long as they’re around guys like Santana, Wright, and Reyes are going to be stuck with this mess, assuming Reyes even sticks around.
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the only way to get through to management is through money
if they realize, ohhey no on is in the stadium, or ohhey no one is watching the game, i was hoping they would get the picture they they are upsetting their fans.. but it wouldnt get through Minaya’s thick skull anyway.. lets hope Wright has as thick a skull so he doesn’t break his head on Cain’s fastball…..
Well, it's really not that bad
Figgy gets screwed over, but the other guys will be in the minors. And the management of the roster during the season will not go as we would wish it to go, but that’s always the case.
I'd say it's that bad
because it shows how God awful their talent evaluation, roster management and decision making is. not to mention if they didn’t like Carter enough to make it over Frank Cats, what possible reason could they have had for trading a type A free agent for him.
There’s also the fact that Meija is pretty much doomed with Jerry as his manager and Warthen as his pitching coach. I’m going to pour some liquor out in memory of his starting potential later.
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Oh, it's by no means good
But it’s not “worst cut I have ever seen in my life” territory. And we already knew about the bad management.
I think depending on what kind of cuts you'd consider
I mean obviously nonsense things like cutting Wright or someone would be worse but I think all things considered cutting Figgy is pretty up there. Considering the fact we have no starting pitching depth, a rotation of nothing but high risk pitchers, a bullpen that’s been overworked for 3 straight years, the fact they could have kept him and simply optioned Green who’s been pretty awful and has options so they wouldn’t lose him and the fact that he basically told everyone he’s heading to Japan if he gets cut so they know cutting him means losing him for good.
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But you'd be saying the same things if
they had cut Jacobs, he might not have accepted a ticket to Buffalo either. Its not like the mets are stocked with no glove no hit AAA.5 players.
/sarcasm
Figgy was their second best starter
and Carter their best first baseman. Other than that, its wonderful
This Omars explanation
“We had some guys that can do that role that Figueroa has given us,” Minaya said. “… The Carter situation is, when you have (minor-league) options, sometimes options work against you. And I think right now, when you put a team together, you really want to have numbers. … I’d rather have two options available than make the move and only have one and then have to go out and look for somebody else.”
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
You know?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
In other words
He was assuming Carter would fail.
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Head explodes/facepalm
http://gadgetsteria.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/facepalm1.jpg
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by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That photo is perfect
We need to make T shirts with that one.
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Your 2010 Mets, everyone
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 3, 2010 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I like how he basically completely contradicts his point on Carter
with his handling of Meija/Figgy/Green.
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Also I'm gonna need a reporter to ask him why he liked Carter enough to trade Wagner for him
but not enough to beat out 400 year old Frank Cats?
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how do u not send Green down he has options and keep Figgy
Its really not that hard look at the numbers!!!!
You just said a bad word in the Mets Front Office
numbers. They dont like numbers and book larnin.
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's false hustle.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather have some options. ANY options
But you see, I have you as a GM, and because of that, we have NO real options. Mike Jacobs does not count as an option. Cattolonoto doesn’t either. Nor does Gary F****ng Mathews Jr., you illiterate ass.
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by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's really hard to read this blog
and it’s not your guys’ fault. It’s like reading The Liberator. The good word, but a real downer.
This seriously just happened.
Just after reading this, I opened a fortune cookie which contained the following message:
“Don’t worry about losing. If it is right, it happens.”
by Ogre39666 on Apr 2, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
too perfect
Well, who knew doom came in fortune cookie form
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Apr 2, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Lucky you.
Mine said “Wish you happiness.” Not only is that not a fortune, it’s not even a sentence, either.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he better improve in his side job, because, God willing, he's going to need to make it a fulltime gig.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You know when your college sends out mail asking for donations from alumni
And sometimes you can specify where the donation goes — basketball team, chemistry department, etc. I wish the Mets had that option when you buy tickets and merchandise. Can you please make sure my $$$ does not go towards paying the salaries of Omar Minaya, Jerry Manuel, etc. please? I want my $22 upper deck ticket and $8 beer costs directly going to the players, ushers, groundskeepers and food vendors.
by James Kannengieser on Apr 2, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
ok late to the party but, what the F*#@
Figgy and Carter? Where are these magical alternatives that are better than these guys?
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
my soul hurts
oh well at least opening day is Monday… means they don’t have much time to make more stupid preseason moves
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Only to be replaced by stupid in season moves...
followed by dumb trading deadline moves.
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yup but its a new and different kind of stupid!
Sadly I hate these moves, they enrage me, and I still can’t wait for the season to start.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
But the other newer stupid moves will just enrage us way more.
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
way more?
or way different? Yeah I know this season is going to be unpleasant, but Im hoping its ’93 Mets Bad, where its so bad, its kind of entertaining.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember 93 well
Shea was 5 bucks to get in the upper deck
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I was pretty young at the time
But I fondly remember watching it even though it was a train wreck.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, the upper deck prices were that low in 2006?
I went to about 13 games in 2006 and maybe 10 in 2007, because the Upper Deck tickets were still so relatively cheap.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but they didnt have the tiered pricing like they do now. So the upper deck tickets were 5 bucks throughout the season.
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
hell tickets on the 3rd base line field level were affordable then
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
For my little sister's birthday, I got tickets in the second row on the 3rd baseline, maybe 15 feet behind third.
Each ticket was…$35.00, I believe (I had to accompany her, of course! Being a…good brother. Yeah, that’s it!). Of course, fuckin Chan Ho Park pitched that game, and fucked everything up.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
my condolences on the Park sighting
but it was nice when I could afford tickets that good.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear you.
I can barely afford two Upper Deck tickets now.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it costs enough to drive my ass down to NYC for a game
then to pay 30$ for upper deck to see a AA team play, its hard to justify
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm hoping their general crappiness leads to $1.00 tickets on eBay and Stubhub, or similar prices.
Then, maybe, I’ll make it to a game or two.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a good plan
then I can go to Citi Field for the food.
by aparkermarshall on Apr 2, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds pretty familiar...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
the only stupid move left
is when Maine goes down and Ollie completly sucks with no pitching depth know that Figgy is gone We trade F-Mart for a #5 pitcher
please stop
that scenario is far too feasible
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
well y'know we acquired frenchy last year and we like him a lot
and y’know when you’ve got a guy and he’s producing and you’ve got another guy who plays the same position. you gotta y’know see what you can do to make the team better.
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Why is no one lashing out at the absence of Elmer Dessens on the roster!?
If anyone deserves a spot…
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Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
There goes my July rotation of
Santana, Pelfrey,Niese,Mejia,Figgy
Unfortunately I think that scenario died a long time ago.
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 3, 2010 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions
GMJ is on the opening day roster
instead of pumping gas in the parking lot. and Figgy and Carter are gone. mindblowing.
Fuck the parking lot
He should be pumping gas in Juarez..
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 2, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder how this projected opening day roster compares to that list
somebody posted earlier of worst opening day lineups.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
DW, Bay, & Castillo keep its head above water
and Frenchy & Pagan keep it respectable.
Rotation/bullpen-wise, it could be a cataclysm. There are a lot of coinflips.
does it make your fingers burn to type that Frenchy and Castillo keeps it respectable?
I guess we’ve got a few good guys in there, but the others are so atrociously bad it might be closer than one would think.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
they are gonna be around replacement level
the “award” winners for worst ever were all terrible, across the board…
true
I probably overestimate the suck factor a bit, but if we have Jacobs, GMJr, Frenchy, Bay, Wright, Cora, Barajas, Castillo, and a pitcher in our lineup on any given day I don’t like our chances.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Dave Lennon is a damn moron.
“Strip away his age and his potential and he(Mejia) should be in the 8th inning now.” What an utter dumbass. Add to that he says Carter never had a chance and that it was always between Jacobs/Smithtown’s own. Fucking shocker.
I refuse to read any articles on the Mejia situation
they’re just plain annoying at this point.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
What the fuck does "strip away his potential" even mean??
God. I keep thinking Lennon may not be completely stupid, but yes, he is.
"Strip away his potential" means let Jerry Manuel/Dan Warthen manage him.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that's a pretty awful argument
he’s basically saying “ignore all facts, reason and sound arguments”
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strip away the last couple of years
and a lot of people still read Newsday
by Endys Game on Apr 2, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
BAM
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 3, 2010 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Suddenly drafting Figgy in the late rounds of my fantasy draft today
in the off chance he becomes a starter for a bit looks pretty bad… or really good if somebody picks him up and uses him.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
NPB stats don't count, huh?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe I can get the league admin to make an exception
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess theres an off chance somebody signs him as a middle/back of the rotation starter though
and then I look like a mad genius of some sort. I’ll just play it off like I knew, even though deep down it will make me so very sad.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
What's sad
is at this point all it would take is for Raul Valdes to make the roster and I’d instantly forgive Omar. Hell if anyone makes it over Meija I’ll probably name my first born Omar.
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we have such low expectations at this point
and they still probably will fail to meet them
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
At least
Buffalo will be a force to reckon with!
Not for nothing
But there was at least a little bit of… let’s call it “unrest” that the Bisons were so bad among some Buffalonians.
Attempt to look at the bright side?
- Figgy isn’t that good. And he’s in his mid-30s. While he should make the team, it’s not like this is terrible.
- Carter, Parnell, and Calero are still in the organization.
- Maybe Minaya will decide to send down Mejia for Calero in a few weeks. A few weeks in the pen will not hurt Mejia at all really considering his innings should be limited this year anyway.
- At least we don’t have Dusty Baker.
- At least we don’t have Dayton Moore. Or Ed Wade.
I agree that Omar is probably a better gm than Moore and Wade
but at this point I’m not sure our front office as a whole is better than their front offices as a whole.
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I'm not sure that Omar is better than Wade
nor that Manuel is better than Dusty. Dusty doesn’t go around insulting and alienating his players and getting them traded and continuing to throw them under a bus.
Omar made the second highest bid for Barry Zito.
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by GenJackRipper on Apr 2, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Wade is close.
Baker may not alienate his players, but he does do this: “The main thing we have to be aware of his overwork, or underwork,” Reds manager Dusty Baker said. “Much like Japanese pitchers, they throw a lot. Then when they come here, we tend to back them off and not throw sometimes enough.”
Dusty Baker
Is notorious for not trusting young players and holding them back. Although, throwing them to the wolves (in the wrong position no less) can be just as bad.
Dusty doesn't trust young position players
he believes all pitchers can handle 300 innings a year…which seems pretty identical to Jerry’s beliefs considering his handling of the bullpen, and his sticking with veterans.
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Figgy isn't that bad either
and we have no SP depth at all. Carter is still in the org, but he shoul be starting over Jacobs any day. I don’t mind them getting Captain Fastball and Calero a bit more work before they make the big league club, but if its at the cost of risking them liking Mejia in the 8th inning role and leaving him there, i’m not as enamoured of the decision. Can’t argue with the Baker, Moore, or Wade comments, but we’re not really doing much better than any of them.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, yeah, I agree with all this.
But the only REALLY bad part of this is Mejia in the ‘pen. The Mets aren’t making the playoffs this year, and guys like Figgy aren’t part of the future so it’s not that big a deal.
the thing is guys like Carter, and Evans, could be part of the future
but if they’re not going to give them chances in losts years when are they ever going to get a chance to prove themselves? I mean if they’re not going to choose either of them over Cats and Jacobs now do we really expect it to happen later in the season?
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Figgy probably didn't have a future with the Mets
but the fact that they have nobody who’s performed as consistently as him and yet they’re still willing to let him go without anybody capable of stepping in for him is extremely puzzling.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah thats the point i was trying to make
we don’t have anyone with his proven consistency and versatility , he’s not stellar but he’s useful, which is more than we can guarantee from a lot of guys who got roster spots.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 3, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
And they just reconfigured the rotation
So that the bullpen won’t be unduly strained – they know they’re going to have a lot of need for a long man.
This has got to be the epicest fail I have ever seen in my life.
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
Kazmir
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Yeah, that too.
Oh, and also Nolan Ryan. And Kevin Mitchell. And Lenny Dykstra….
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
the Putz deal wasn't exactly fantastic either
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It sure would be nice to have Smith in the bullpen right now...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This
But FWIW, Heilman was gone, so that’s a plus IMO
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
yeah but we wouldn't have sean green
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Heilman, Green...Six of one thing, half-dozen of another?
At least Heilman could start!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
lol my dad (a major braves fan)
just called me to say I need to find out when the mets are in town (in atlanta) cause he’s “got to see this”.
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Tell him that Omar has a plan, and his plan, he like his plan. Make ure to hem and haw, and use gratuituous "you knows".
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Stalin had a plan too
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 2, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At the risk of sounding insensitive, at least Stalin achieved a certain amount of success with his plans...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny thing is this:
Weren’t we all singing the praises of Mejia last year and now we’re facepalming at the sight of his presence in the lineup?
Amazing how one offseason changes everything.
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
Everyone's still singing the praises of Mejia.
That’s exactly why we don’t want him on the team.
no we all still love Mejia
as a future starter. a year in the pen would set him back immensely towards this goal.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming you're right, but is there any history with other pitchers to back this up?
Forgive me if my question sounds dumb
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Except Joba was a starter in college
and had 2 plus pitches and one well on it’s way at the time.
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but my point is when you consider that
it’s really not even kind of. there’s really nothing in common. Plenty of prospects with well developed stuff have been put in the bullpen to transition from the minors to starting, none of them have had the retarded media frenzy but Joba isn’t anywhere near the first and won’t be the last. But I can’t think of any pitcher like Meija who a team has done it with.
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That's a good point.
Which makes you realize that Mejia is more likely to get ruined in the bullpen the Joba.
That makes me sad.
No, because there's really no history of a team putting a prospect like Meija
in the bullpen and attempting to turn him into a starter later. Which at least shows you how much teams historically have thought of the idea.
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BUT HE THROWS THE HEAT!
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 2, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
but its one pitch
and if he does’nt have command of that one pitch then he’s screwed. He won’t get to harness his secondary pitches in the Majors. Its basically patching the PEN to help Save Manuels job to get off to a good start while compromising Mejia’s future by stunting his growth. All about saving Minaya/Manuel’s ASS.Someoen Should just tell them BOTH their jobs are safe. Really they are under contract for a couple years and the Coupons are to cheap to cut losses let alone Pay 2 people for 1 job
Not to mention once MLB hitters figure out he has one pitch
which they eventually will, what are they going to do with him if/when he starts struggling in the bullpen?
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Put him back in the rotation?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Well that's what a competent front office would do
if you mean the AA rotation. I mean what would Jerry and Omar do.
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I fear something far more sinister.
I’ll let Matt Cerrone and his ellipses tell us of a possibility that would kill all of us on the spot:
…fine… fine… whatever… i still think he should stay in the minors and keeping working on his pitches, command and harnessing his potential to be a dominant starter… but, i get it… he might be the best relief pitcher they have… fine… i’ll deal with it and hope for the best… but, if the Mets are actually going to do this, if this is going to be his job, if the Mets truly think he’s going to be awesome in this role, then put him in Francisco Rodriguez’s pocket and start grooming him to be the team’s next closer right now and don’t look back… in other words: do… not… jerk… him… around…
How an organization can ruin David Wright's chances at a World Series ring with the Mets is despicable.
Here you go.
http://www.metsblog.com/2010/04/02/buzz-60-percent-chance-mejia-is-in-bullpen/
How an organization can ruin David Wright's chances at a World Series ring with the Mets is despicable.
Oh my god
That’s horrible. As someone who tries his best to make sure his texts messages are grammatically correct, this just hurts. Talk about taking his love of ellipses overboard.
For a couple of years now I’ve been toying with the idea of emailing Cerrone and offering to copy-edit Metsblog for free. It just hurts to read sometimes.
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 3, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention the, you know, content.
That we should give up on Mejia being a starter RIGHT NOW, even though we have 0 reason to think he’d fail.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
its tough to compare
they took a similar course with a few good pitcher after they had developed their 2ndary pitches, but Mejia is still very rough around the edges with his secondary stuff, and in the pen they’ll just focus on him throwing his one good pitch over and over, he won’t have nearly as much of a chance to develop those other pitches.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and there's also the fact that Jerry was quoted specifically saying
that he doesn’t want Meija throwing his off-speed stuff and just focusing on the fastball. I’d imagine the odds of a pitching spending an entire year just throwing one pitch and then being able to go back and relearn off-speed pitches is borderline nonexistent, or at least learning them well enough that he’d be able to be a top end starter ever.
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It's not necessarily the putting him in the bullpen part
as much as it is putting him in the bullpen and being adamant that he overwhelmingly throws his fastball, and not develop his curveball, and other breakingballs.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that was Jerry's opinion
Hopefully Warthen knows better, for Mejia’s sake
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Warthen has been pretty much silent on this stuff as far as i can tell
I wonder if his opinion matters at all.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 2, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I'm convinced Warthen does anything
considering everyone but him and Ollie seem to know Ollie has a huge mechanics problem.
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ugh me too
if nothing else with Rick P we’d at least know he’d probably keep Meija’s arm healthy. Now I’d worry that Jerry will have him pitching back to back games before the end of week 1.
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Don't worry.
We’ll see Mejia four times a week soon enough.
How an organization can ruin David Wright's chances at a World Series ring with the Mets is despicable.
Jerry's the manager. (And, do you really think Warthen knows better?)
I mean, this is a game where, in theory, he (Jerry) can fine Mejia for every breakball thrown, if he wanted to. If that happened, you think Mejia would openly fly in the face of his manager, so he could get some much needed work done on his curve?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If he did
He’d be an instant hero.
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 3, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Biggest fail: ridding Chris Carter
Seriously, dude’s been tearing it up in Spring Training and we see him among the people being sent packing. I hope he at least goes to Buffalo.
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
they'll lose him
like they lost that poor Evans boy last spring.
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Biggest fail is Mejia
Ruining a 27 year old who probably won’t be anymore than a bench player is not as bad as ruining a potential ace.
It’s amazing how low my expectations are at this point.
That's not really true
there’s a lot of reasons to think Carter could be way more than a bench player, really at worse it seems like he’d be a bench plaer.
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Whatever
Ruining Carter is not as bad as ruining Mejia.
Ideally, you’d like to ruin nobody. But for that to happen, we would need an intelligent person as GM.
yea but this is the perfect Chance for Carter.
With Murph out 2-6 weeks and no Ike Davis, Give Carter a shot and maybe he takes off and if he does its another Chip to showcase to trade for pitching.
hey! a lot of those guys totally blow!
i dont like it when a lot of our players are crap!
it’s cool though, we can totally still get these sweet t-shirts.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Is there another profession
in which 10% or more of the highest level jobs are given to people that are less intelligent than thousands of people who are yet to graduate high school?
I don't know...
I couldn’t manage either of those companies, but I could sure as hell do better than Minaya as a GM.
hey, activision is making bank with WoW
EA execs, yeah theyre not doing so hot right now.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Activisions actually lost tens of millions the last two years
And they’re about to do the same thing with CoD they did with all the music games (oversaturate the market by releasing multiple games a year and kill their own product)
I’d say EA is doing better at this point, almost entirely because of DICE and Bioware though which I assume is only because they haven’t owned them long enough to squeeze the life out of them.
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Not to mention a Mets-esque mishandling of public relations.
The Infinity Ward pending lawsuit is evidence of that.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
where'd you get your numbers?
i only quibble because i just happened to have done a valuation assignment on EA and Activision recently and its pretty clear that activision is doing all right while EA is getting killed. both “lost” millions of dollars at the end of 2009 but thats beccasue all consumer products got pummeled. Activision’s market cap is still 2 to 3 times EA’s. mostly because Activision has Blizzard have one billion in revenue coming in every year from WoW and that number has been growing steadily. EA has made some bad bets that have cost them big where as Activision has largely avoided EA’s mistakes. Even with EA’s really popular titles theyve had not so favorable licensing deals that have dragged down their bottom line.
just look at EA’s anual profit margins take a nose dive here.
meanwhile, Activision’s revenue streams are growing at a faster rate than EA and it looks as though they’ll pull out of the recession in much better shape (see similar charts here.)
anyway, sorry for going so far off on a nerdy tangent but when i have a chance to show off what im going to into massive debt for i like to take advantage of it.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Just out of curiousity what are you studying
I ask because I’m an econ major (I’m only a sophmore so I’m only into my 3rd actual econ class at this point), and my life dream would be to work as an industry analyst in the video game industry but I have no idea what kind of courses/grad school work would be necessary to get there.
And my numbers are from random fanboys on game informers/gamefaqs forums so they’re probably all made up.
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I'm getting an MBA from the University of Maryland
finishing up my first year of the 2 year program. i was a humanities major undergrad and commercial real estate property manager for the last 6 years so i dont know TOO much about the industry but i did have a room mate for a couple years who did what youre describing. he basically did what youre doing now, so keep taking econ and accounting and finance and all that fun business stuff and then start knocking on the doors of i-banks and the smaller private equity shops. then from there you can either get your CFA (which my roommate did which you do while working) or get an MBA, which is good if you skipped all that stuff in college and dont mind the crushing debt load.
theres lots of ways to get where youre going but if its any consolation, youre already light years ahead of where I was my sophomore year of undergrad (ie taking crap like linguistic anthropology, cinematic shakespeare and staying drunk as often as possible). so you’ll probably be my boss in about 5 years.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Perhaps Figueroa
had a change of heart and is willing to go to Buffalo. If he clears waivers, than I guess demoting him is justified. Its a long shot yeah but worth considering.
He won't accept any assignment even if he clears waivers
What hurts most about this is that the guy grew up a Mets fan and worked his @$$ off to get here, and we’ve treated him like cr.ap the last three years
He isn’t great or even what most consider good, but he’s better than what we have on the roster now
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Agreed
I wouldn’t even chance the fact he clears waivers, although to be fair Omar and co. (probably) know that better than us. If he is theoretically willing to head to Buffalo, though, the move is certainly understandable, since he can come up when someone in the rot. gets hurt, and Nieve and Tak2 can be long relief options for now.
by Matt Himelfarb on Apr 3, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't even want him to accept assignment to Buffalo
He’s been jerked around long enough. He needs to go get paid.
Mejia on the roster is stupid.
This kid is going to be the next Joba. Start him or keep him in the bullpen. Omar and Jerry are going to ruin him. Fire Jerry.
As awful as it is
by September (if not earlier), Tejada, Davis, Thole and Martinez will be up, maybe Havens if he tears it up in AA, Holt, Niesen, Captain Kirk maybe. Hopefully, whether they kept Carter or Catalanotto this year will be a trivia question a few years down the line when those guys are turning into productive major leaguers.
I'm not sure I believe Davis
will be ready. And they’re handling of Meija, and Tejada now to an extent, doesn’t really give me much confidence in their ability to handle of the rest of the prospects.
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They'll all be up by May Gina.
You know, to “excite” the fanbase.
How an organization can ruin David Wright's chances at a World Series ring with the Mets is despicable.
I have visions of Davis sitting on the bench for months
because Jerry “doesn’t know how to use him”.
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Don't be stupid
By July, he’ll be our new 2nd baseman!
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
agreed
as far as their ability to handle it right, but I am looking at the bright side. And I think Davis will definitely be ready by September.
I agree with virtually all of you
About the pure idiocy behind these moves.
But hey, if you think that this is the worst it can ever get, and you’re looking to jump ship if this team doesn’t get what it deserves, then awesome… I’ll be able to stretch out even more at Citi.
If you’re jumping ship because you don’t like current management, and because it’s not maximizing the resources available to it, then that’s your prerogative. You may be smart, eloquent, and have a much better grasp of various analytics than most Met— or baseball— fans.
But you’re not a Mets fan. Good luck, and good riddance.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Apr 3, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions
Gotta agree with you here
I hate what they’re doing, it pains me, the team is horrible, and I’ll spend many hours yelling at my TV (and maybe a few yelling in person at Citi) and I’ll still watch easily over 100 games this year. Its the Mets guys… hardly the first time we’ve had bad players, incompetent management, and ridiculous media controversies, and it definitely won’t be the last. I’ll just rely on the Amazin Ave community to keep a collective sense of humor about the whole ridiculous thing.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 3, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly a true mets fan
should join me in my quest to convince Prokhy to buy the mets. I figure if we all write him tear stained letters riddled with desperation every day until 1. he buys the mets 2. we die, it will eventually happen.
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Although truthfully I'm not even sure he could afford them
I imagine with the stadium they’re worth upwards of a billion dollars. Which is pathetic, the Wilpons are some of the most incompetent owners in sports and yet they have probably the second most valuable franchise in america and top ten in the world. Something’s just not right about that.
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maybe the wilpons keep getting terrible players and lowering fan interest through asinine moves
so the team value drops to the level where they can sell it to somebody who knows what they’re doing?
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 3, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately the downside to the huge resources being an NY team gets you
is the huge number of casual, or even nonfans, who will still pay ridiculous amounts to see a crappy team. I don’t think the Knicks ever had an attendance slump during Isiahs reign of terror did they?
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true enough
but it does seem like he’s trying extra hard to make this team unwatchable.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 3, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
Sellouts every home game.
How an organization can ruin David Wright's chances at a World Series ring with the Mets is despicable.
yeah but still
the point is they’re still selling out, there are contenders that can’t sell out their tickets at basement prices. Hell braves tickets are easy as hell to get regardless of how well they’re doing. And I could probably walk into a hawks game with no ticket.
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That's a shame too.
The only time we see Hawks fans in the stands is in the playoffs.
How an organization can ruin David Wright's chances at a World Series ring with the Mets is despicable.
Yeah and not only are they good
they’re so young with so much upside, and to me they’re one of the most fun teams in the league to watch.
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Which gives me another idea
if the letters to Prokhy don’t work, maybe we can get spike lee to make a movie about our struggle.
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"The 25th Roster Spot"
A Jenrry Mejia Joint
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 3, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
All that $$$ and we can't eat Ollie's contract
Or Dump Wagner to save a couple million
According to Forbes...
The Mets are the 9th most valuable “sports brand” world-wide, 2nd most valuable in baseball, and 3rd most valuable in the US with a brand value of $159M.
Heres the top-10:
1. Manchester United
2. Yankees
3. Real Madrid
4. Dallas Cowboys
5. Bayern Munich
6. Arsenal
7. AC Milan
8. Barcelona
9. NY Mets
10. Boston Red Sox
Link: http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/03/most-powerful-sports-names-tiger-woods-nike-cmo-network-sports-brands_slide_25.html
Exactly
I hate Omar. I hate Jerry. I hate pretty much everything in the front office right now. I KNOW there are so many people that can do a better job.
But I’ll still watch 100+ games this year. I’ll still be sitting in the stands on Opening Day cheering. And as much as I may say that I want the team to lose so Minaya and Manuel are fired, I can’t do it. Last year when it seemed like it was so easy to root for a terrible team to lose to get a better draft pick, I couldn’t do it. I’ll still root for the Mets every game, no matter how frustrating it may be.
I plan on watching
I’m just going to watch through illegal channels. That’s my way of sticking it to th eman.
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I beg to differ
I’d call myself a rational Met fan with a time horizon.
You can feel free to deny my status as a Met fanatic, and I would not disagree. I’m not fanatical. My love of the Mets is not unconditional. I can be and have been alienated.
But it’s pointless to put out an arbitrary definition of fan and claim that I don’t meet it. It’s more of a tautology than anything else, which is why I can’t get peeved about it for more than a minute.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Apr 3, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Look
I’m not even stressing this. If Figgy is making regular stars for us we’re fucked to all, and maybe someone goes down they let Tak2 start and fill that role. Mejia pisses me off because it has long term potential implications but we all knew it was happening. The rest (Carter, Evans) of the guys hopefully will be a phone call away when the guys they kept suck ass.
This is Exactly the Moves We Need (minus Mejia)
2010 is a gone season for us. We’re lucky if we win 84 wins. What these moves will likely give us is a quick end to Omar/Jerry reign. I can’t see this team winning more than 10 games in April even if no one else gets injured. Before May comes in Perez will likely be doing some mechanics work in St. Lucie without Figgy being around to fill in. It’s not far fetched to think that come May some starter will get injured. If Bay, Wright, Reyes, or Johan go down for even 2 weeks before June comes along we can almost be guaranteed of a team playing near .400 ball.
If this happens then we can have a quick change of guard with hopefully a quick demotion of Meija to AA to work on his other pitches as a starter. For the long-term prospects I hope that Mejia is kept on his one-pitch regiment and is quickly figured out. This will show the incredibly short-sighted handling of Mejia and his potential and giving the new GM reason to send him back without hearing a backlash from the dimwitted beat reporters covering the situation.
In the process we would have lost 2010 but that was already a given with our rotation. If we can look back to the offseason up until Omar’s inevitable axing to find that the only player we lost was Figgy I will be happy. I was expecting far more long term loss of prospects after last season. As bad as things have been at least we didn’t give away a Kazmir this time.
Hopefully before the end of the season we’ll see new life with a new GM and new manager as well as promotions of Davis, Fernando, Tejada, Mejia (as a starter in September), Holt, Havens and Captain Kirk and a lot of good things to look forward to in 2011.
by M.C.Teufel on Apr 3, 2010 2:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
or the wilpons will continue to not pay attention
or keep Omar and Jerry around to buffer critiscm from themselves (I can’t think of any other reasons why they’ve been retained to this point), and won’t act until after Omar makes some sort of awful win now trade as a last ditch effort to save his job.
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I don't know
Something tells me that the Wilpons have put huge restrictions on Omar being able to trade away prospects. All indications this winter indicated that Omar had restrictions on him in trading or signing players so I wouldn’t be surprised if they said something to the effect of “we are not going to let you trade away our future. You have a few months to show that injuries were the cause of 2009 or you are gone.” I can’t imagine any other reason why Omar didn’t do more to save himself in 2010.
I feel bad for him because he did help turn this franchise around and has helped rebuild our farm but his decision-making the past 2-3 years in not being able to build around such a talented core of 4-5 top players in mind-boggling and its clear that change is needed now.
but then why wouldn't they be putting the same restrictions on handling them
i.e with Meija, Tejada, and possibly David. I think the wilpons put restrictions on free agents because of the $$$ implications not because of the negative or positive affect to the franchise. I wouldn’t be shocked if they knew nothing about any of our prospects. I don’t think any reports indicated restrictions on trading players outside of possible costs in $$$ to the Wilpons. That seems to be the only thing they’ve been concerned with. He can run the team into the ground as long as he does it within the confines of their budget.
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Who knows
but the lack of moves indicates restrictions. Perhaps he still has ability to promote and demote but inability to trade key pieces.
Either way I think these moves just sealed the end of Omar’s run. If it did so without losing any of our main prospects I am happy as long as it happens sooner than later and we get Mejia back in AA as a starter ASAP.
Not the Wilpons' style
The Wilpons do not have that kind of patience or savvy. Look at how they handled Randolph.
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by GenJackRipper on Apr 3, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like that guy in the movie Brain Candy
the president of the drug company when he’s pissed he gently says….“Can I have the room please?” then he says….“FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” or words to that effect. Great movie for anyone that’s not seen it btw.
I digress. This was all predictable. All of these bullshit decisions. I don’t want overstate things, it’s just baseball, and maybe some of these clowns they kept play well. But rooting for this team with the front office it currently has is…..I don’t even have the word.. Pointless? There needs to be a stronger word than pointless? Masochistic?
We come back again and again to get beat down by idiots that I would love to play against in any game of wits for big dollars, because I would TAKE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE. Fuck you Omar Minaya and Fuck you Jerry Manuel. I apologize for this language, but I needed to put that in print.
Just remember
we’re not loyal to the Wilpons, or Omar, or Jerry, or Warthen or even Ollie and co. We’re loyal to mr. met. And mr. met would never:
give us up
let us down
run around and desert us
make us cry
gonna say goodbye
or tell a lie and hurt us
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by Gina on Apr 3, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
mr. met made me cry as a child
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
by squid92 on Apr 3, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me too.
As a little kid I made it my personal goal to get pictures with every mascot I saw at a sporting event. Never got a picture with Mr. Met to this day.
by wrightttxgirlllx3 on Apr 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it.
I just don’t understand how Omar Minaya is running the Mets.
The conversation when they cut Carter....
Manuel: Chris, I only saw a couple of your at bats, but they tell me you hit like .400. But, the thing is you didn’t have that many at bats and you didn’t show me much in the field.
Carter: But you didn’t let me play in the field…
Minaya: Chris, you should have lobbied for more at bats. And to play the field.
Carter: But you dubbed me the animal…
Minaya: Do you understand how spring training works, son? We have our team from day 1. Unless your 20 years old and throw 96.
Manuel: Chris, if you could have hit .500 that would have made me a bit more interested.
Minaya: We also want to thank you for saving us several millions. So we’re giving you a nice set of Ginzu stake knives. Say hi to Mulder and Skully! ahahahaa!
by Mackey Sasser on Apr 3, 2010 2:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Another ironic decision in this
we cut Figgy, who’s now off to Japan in order to keep a Japanese pitcher (Igarashi) because he’s under contract. But Igarashi had an over 8 ERA this spring and is a complete unknown. We know what we are getting with Figgy, but instead choose a guy that would not have made this team if they were not dumb enough to guarantee him a contract. I hope he pitches well, but jesus it makes no sense.
Seriously?
people are upset they cut a guy (Adams) who hasn’t hit above .250 in four years?
Or two other guys, one 35 and one 39?
It can be argued that whoever they kept is no better but surely getting rid of those guys is not going to make or break the Mets season by any stretch of the imagination.
Really after all the comments all you got was people were upset about Adams?
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there's also the fact they gave up the chance at two draft picks to get Carter
and now won’t even give him a shot over a retread and a 40 year old when he plays too positions we need depth at the most.
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Don't remind me about those draft picks
2 early draft picks for a near 40-year old relief pitcher. What a huge bargain. Instead we trade it for a guy who we refuse to play over scrubs even after he tears the skin off the ball in spring training.
This organization just keeps sinking faster and faster.
But I guess the fans will be electrified
When Mejia comes and pitches some 1-2-3 innings in 7-3 blowout losses.
Individually No, As a Whole Yes
We have Jacobs hitting cleanup. We have someone in Carter who is better than Jacobs right now and also has more potential and more versatility (which we need with Beltran out).
We have no #6 pitcher to takeover for Maine/Perez when they go down. Calero would have provided you near the same level of production as Mejia without stunting his growth.
We are sacrificing 2010 and beyond with these roster moves. It’s just complete incompetence. You can put a fork into this season, because it’s done before it even began.
by M.C.Teufel on Apr 3, 2010 2:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Really, Mets, really?
If Mejia gets hurt in May, and basically sucks the rest of his career, I’m going to be pretty pissed at Omar, Jerry and co. They’re not doing it for Mets fans, or for the good of the team in the future. They’re doing it to save their jobs.
I hope Figgy leaves. I really hope he goes somewhere where he is appreciated for being a very serviceable 5th starter or long man, who is probably better than league average (which you can’t say for 1/5 of 2/5 of the Mets rotation, yes I’m looking at you, 3/36).
And if we get off to a 5-15 start, and it means Omar and co get fired anyway, what was the fucking point of Mejia?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
When commenters on Metsmerized think its a bad idea
you know Omar fucked up somewhere
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Keeping Sean Green over Figueroa.
I’m done with this f-ing team.
This really pisses me off.
I’ll root for whatever team Figgy winds up with.
you know what I'm sayin' ?
unless that team is in our division or the Yankees
I Believe in 2010
by Jadden Hopkins on Apr 3, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This is just so annoying
I’d been really enjoying Spring Training, lots of intriguing possibilities, and a hint of optimism. Now a nice fat slice of idiocy to remind us that it is, after all, the Mets.
He pitched well in his last game
And everybody forgot everything that came before it.
See: Santos, Omir; Jacobs, Mike; Church, Ryan; Francouer, Jeff; Stokes, Brian; Evans, Nick; Murphy, Daniel.
so shocked
and just think parnell was the untouchable piece in any deal to get a top starting pitcher and they just cut him loose and get nothing in return .boy they really must really think meija will turn out great good luck bobby you will most likley turn out to be a all star most met rejects turn out that way does kazmir ring a bell omar you suck ..
they didn't cut him
he has options. and I hope he wasn’t actually untouchable at one point, but knowing the mets it’s entirely possible that he got hot for a week and they declared him untouchable.
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what a dumb organization
I wonder if you’re a player like Figgy, Chris Carter doing pretty darn well in Spring Training…and don’t ever really get a chance anyway…why would you want to play at all for the Mets…even if you get a few at bats and IP later in the year?
I laughed so hard when they signed Mike Jacobs and just KNEW they were going to play him instead. He could have gone 0 for 40 in Spring Training but they would have kept him to play because of his “MLB veteran experience.” The ROYALS didn’t even want Jacobs, yet the Mets do. Figures. I bet the Mets placed Murphy on the DL without him being hurt….
As for the draft picks, do you guys really think the Wilpons and Omar Minaya know or CARE about something like a deep farm system and picks? please.
Good job, Omar and Jerry. Good job.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
I think Omar does
I’m not so sure about the wilpons, and it seems like ultimately they’re calling a lot of the shots.
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May God have mercy on our souls.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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