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Top ten Mets trades (1983 and later)

(bumped from fanposts. --eric)

It's easy as a Mets fan to dwell on all the terrible transactions made in recent years, but sometimes it's helpful to keep in mind that this franchise has actually pulled off some great steals.  So with that in mind, here's my list of the ten best trades since 1983.  Why 1983?  I wanted to keep this within the timeframe that I've been a fan.  Technically the first year I started watching was 1984, but there was a deal that I had to include - and besides it did impact the team that I got to watch.

There is not necessarily any scientific backing to this list.  Generally speaking, the less given up and the more gotten back the better.  I also prefer trades where the Mets received long-term benefit rather than short bursts of usefulness, thus why Mike Hampton is in the honorable mentions.

Star-divide

Honorable Mentions:  Don't you just hate these? Me too.  I should just expand the list.  Eh, whatever.

Lance Johnson, Mark Clark, and Manny Alexander to the Cubs for Turk Wendell, Mel Rojas and Brian McRae.  This was the first trade of the Steve Phillips era, and it set the tone for many of his transactions.  He didn't really get the best value for what he gave up, but considering that the Mets wound up with the only guy involved in the trade who made any meaningful contribution to his club - Wendell - technically the Mets did get the better of the exchange.  The fact that the real target here was Rojas, well, again, it typifies the Phillips regime.

Roger Cedeno, Octavio Dotel, and Kyle Kessel to Houston for Mike Hampton and Derek Bell.  Hampton was very good in his one season for the Mets, and helped guide them to the World Series.  Since that was the point of the trade, that made it a good trade for the Mets.  Of course, Hampton did leave after one season to set sail for the awesome public schools in Colorado, and Dotel wound up having a pretty solid career in the bullpen, so that keeps it out of the top ten.

Dante Brinkley and Gaby Hernandez to Florida for Paul LoDuca.  The Mets gave up nothing and got two solid years from LoDuca.  By the end of his tenure we were not sorry to see Paulle go, but it is worth noting that he was one of a handful of guys who bothered to show up for the last two weeks of the 2007 season.

Grants Psomas, Mike Jacobs and Yusmeiro Petit to Florida for Carlos DelgadoI had a tough time keeping this one out of the top ten, but in the end it fell just short, as did the Mets with Delgado.  Still, he gave us one tremendous season and another great half-season.

Terrence Long and Leo Vasquez to Oakland for Kenny RogersRogers was actually pretty solid down the stretch for the Mets, and they arguably would not have made the post-season without him.  Long had a decent but unspectacular career and . . . I'm just going to shut up now.

10. John Christensen, Wes Gardner, Calvin Schiraldi and LaSchelle Tarver to Boston for Bob Ojeda, Chris Bayer, Tom McCarthy and John Mitchell.  The Mets were looking for a left-handed starter to shore up the rotation prior to the 1986 season, and they got their man with Bobby O.  Ojeda went 18-5 in '86 with a 2.57 ERA and sub 1.1 WHIp.  He was arguably the anchor of the rotation, and he picked up a huge (and historically underrated) victory in game two of the NLCS that year and then an even bigger win in game three of the World Series.  He never was remotely as successful again, but had a few decent years in the late 80s for the Mets.  Meanwhile, the only meaningful player traded away was Schiraldi.  Calvin did have a great year in '86 as the Red Sox closer, but was the losing pitcher in both games six and seven of the World Series.  So, if you think about it, this one trade accounted for three of the four Mets wins in the 1986 World Series.  From a certain point of view.

9. Gerald Young, Manny Lee and Mitch Cook to Houston for Ray Knight.  The Mets were looking to add a veteran bat to their lineup in the heat of the 1984 pennant race, and so they went out and acquired Knight before the final final (not a typo) trade deadline.  Knight was unspectacular down the stretch, and just about God awful in 1985, but formed a great platoon with HoJo in 1986.  Knight wound up winning World Series MVP honors, though honestly it was about as meaningful as David Eckstein being so honored four years ago.  Meanwhile, the Mets gave up very little.  Gerald Young was a speedster, but one with absolute terrible instincts.  He racked up 65 steals in 1988 for the Astros and then 34 in 1989, but he also led the league in caught stealing both years (27 in 1988, 25 in 1989 for one of the worst ratios I have ever seen).  Manny Lee had a decent career as a role player for the Blue Jays, but was nothing that the Mets missed.

8. Robert Person to Toronto for John Olerud.  This was probably the greatest heist of Steve Phillips's tenure (at least that benefited the Mets).*  While Person had some decent years as a starter, including a 15-7 season in 2001 for the Phillies, he was out of baseball by 2003 at the age of 33.  Olerud, meanwhile, became a legend in a relatively brief stint with the club.  He was the anchor of the "greatest infield of all-time," and was an incredibly steady bat.  In many ways he was the 1990s version of Keith Hernandez (more on that in a moment).  His best season may have been 1998, where he put up an eye popping .447 on-base percentage.  He actually had a bit more pop than Mex, averaging 21 homers in the three seasons he was with the club.  Now only if they had re-signed him . . .

*Correction: Joe McIlvane was still GM at this point.  Sorry Steve.

7. Robert Stratton, A.J. Burnett, and Jesus Sanchez to Florida for Al Leiter and Ralph Millard.  The Mets desperately needed an ace to anchor their staff following the 1997 season.  Though Leiter had been solid at times for the world champion Marlins, he was already working on his third organization and was 32 at the time Steve Phillips made this deal, so it was not obvious to all that Leiter was the answer.  In fact, his 1997 season, despite a tremendous outing in game seven of the World Series, was a bitter disappointment. 

Well, score another one for Phillips, because without this trade there is no way the Mets would have been as good as they were over the next several seasons, and they would not have sniffed the post-season.  Leiter had a career year in 1998, and though he struggled at times during the 1999 seasons, he pitched arguably the most memorable game in franchise history during the play-in game against the Reds.  Though he never recorded a post-season win for the club, thanks largely to his good friend Armando (three blown saves in games started by Leiter in the 1999 and 2000 post-seasons) and some shaky offensive support, he was dominant in all but one start.  Of the players given up for Leiter, only Burnett has had a good career, and in fact his career trajectory has been eerily similar to Al's.  When you consider how consistently good Al was up until close the end of his Mets tenure, this was a great pickup.

6. Walt Terrell to Detroit for Howard Johnson.  This was a relatively under the radar trade in the 1984 off-season, one that was overshadowed by a much flashier move, and I don't think too many people even knew who Howard Johnson was.  HoJo platooned with Rey Knight for most of the 1985 and 1986 seasons, but it wasn't until he finally became a full-time starter in 1987 that he exploded onto the scene as a true superstar.  Johnson posted three 30/30 seasons - when that actually meant something - and probably should have had an MVP award in 1991, but the writers were evidently in the mood to hand out only one MVP that season for players on second-division clubs.  HoJo was a bit uneven - literally.  His best seasons seemed to come only in odd-numbered years.  Terrell, meanwhile, was sort of the 1980s version of Joe Blanton.  He was generally good for 200+ innings of absolute mediocrity.  All in all, it was another great Frank Cashen steal.

5. Deolis Guerra, Carlos Gomez, Phil Humber and Kevin Mulvey to Minnesota for Johan Santana. This one is somewhat difficult to rank because it is the most recent, and we still don't know if any of the prospects dealt will ever amount to anything.  But all signs so far indicate that the Twins would have been better off with two compensatory picks when Santana walked after the 2008 season.  It is kind of scary to think about what the Mets rotation would look like without Santana.  He arguably should have won the Cy Young award in 2008 (it was honestly a toss-up with Lincecum, but I don't have any complaints about it), and though it appears as though he is not quite as dominant as he was a few years ago, he is still one of the elite pitchers in the game.  Meanwhile, Mulvey has already been shipped off, Humber has struggled to stay in the rotation, Gomez is a slightly better version of Gerald Young, and Guerra's future as a top prospect has dimmed. 

4. Hubie Brooks, Mike Fitzgerald, Herb Winningham and Floyd Youmans to Montreal for Gary Carter.  The Mets surprised just about everyone by staying in the 1984 pennant race for as long as they did.  They clearly were a team on the rise with a ton of great young talent, but they needed just one superstar bat to put them over the top.  Enter the Kid.  In his first game with the Mets on opening day 1985, Carter ended the game with a 10th inning homerun off of some guy named Neil Allen.  A love affair was born.  Unlike some other guys who impressed in their debuts coughBobbyBonillacoughMikeBordick Carter was the real deal.  He helped lead the Mets to within inches of a title in 1985, and then of course the big trophy in 1986.  But even in 1986 there were signs that Gary was on the decline.  His power numbers began to nosedive in 1987, and he was never the same player.  Still, as was the case with Bobby O, Cashen accomplished what he wanted to.  The only reason that this trade doesn't rank a little higher is that the guys the Mets dealt, aside from Winningham, had decent careers.  Youmans was the key piece of the trade, and some thought he would be the next Doc Gooden.  He showed flashes of brilliance in Montreal, but he never came close to meeting expectations and his career fizzled.  Fitzgerald was a very good backup catcher, and Brooks remained a solid if unspectacular shortstop. 

3. Ed Hearn, Rick Anderson and Mauro Gozzo to Kansas City for David Cone.  Younger Mets fans probably have no idea who any of those first three guys are, and Cone of course was a borderline Hall-of-Famer.  So yeah, that trade worked to the Mets benefit.  But it wasn't obvious from the start that it would.  Cone struggled mightily to start the 1987 season, and in fact it looked like he was headed out of the rotation until an exhibition charity game start against the Red Sox seemed to turn his season and his career around.  I still remember that game, amazed that this guy who I thought was just a bum was turning in such a brilliant performance. 

Unfortunately an injury derailed his year just as soon as he hit a groove, but he would come back the next year to emerge as the ace of the staff. In 1988 Cone went 20-3 with a 2.22 ERA, a 1.115 WHIP, and 213 strikeouts in 231 innings pitched, surpassing even the mighty Doc Gooden in performance and even possibly popularity.  He had uneven seasons from 1989-1991, though his numbers suffered in part by playing for mediocre teams.   Unfortunately being the only non disappointment on the uber disappointing 1992 team meant he was their most tradeable commodity, and he wound up being dealt to Toronto for Jeff Kent and Ryan Thompson.  Of course Thompson, not Kent, was the supposed prize of that haul, which only makes Cone's end with the Mets even sadder.  What's worse, Cone's greatest success would come playing for the team across the river.  What could have been.

2. Neil Allen and Rick Owenbey to St. Louis for Keith Hernandez. The Mets were an absolute joke for much of the late 70s and early 80s.  There were some great prospects in the pipeline, and one of them - some kid named Strawberry - was the first of the lot to make an appearance at Shea.  But the Mets were going nowhere in 1983.  They desperately needed to make a splash and acquire a veteran presence to lend credibility to the organization.  Hernandez, meanwhile, had fallen out of favor in St. Louis for, shall we say, off the field stuff.  The end result was an organization and a player earning redemption in one fell swoop.

Mex quickly became one of the most popular players in franchise history,and he earned it through his consistent offensive performance, but most of all because of his phenomenal defense.  Defensive metrics even now are somewhat faulty, and it's probably all but impossible to measure this perfectly objectively, but I can't remember a guy manning his position any better than Keith. Allen, meanwhile, never did much in St. Louis.  He had some decent seasons for the Yankees, but for the most part, was a flameout.  Owenbey started four games for St. Louis, giving up 10 runs in 19 innings, walking 8 and allowing 23 hits.  So the Mets turned their franchise around, acquired a Hall-of-Fame caliber player who helped guide them to a world championship, while giving up next to nothing.  That is an awesome trade.

1. Ed Yarnall, Preston Wilson and Geoff Goetz to Florida for Mike PiazzaConfession time: I opposed this trade before it happened.  Todd Hundley was on the DL, but in my mind it was absurd to trade for a catcher when we already had an All-Star behind the plate, one who really wasn't that much worse than Piazza.  

Yeah.

Of course, I wasn't the only idiot.  I distinctly remember columnists - Bill Madden sticks out - demanding that he be traded over the summer because it was clear that the Mets were not going to make the post-season, and they were likely not going to re-sign Piazza, so better to get something now.  And even Mets fans themselves voiced displeasure with Mikey, having the temerity to boo him because he got off to a slow start in New York.  I never was more disgusted to be a Mets fan than when I sat in Shea Stadium one Friday evening against the Dodgers and I heard the boos cascade down on Mike after another rough game.

Six weeks later the dude was being seranded by 50,000+ people singing "Happy Birthday" in unison.  And though the club fell short of the post-season, he was re-signed to a seven-year deal.  The rest, as we say, is history. 

Meanwhile, Yarnall pitched all of seven big league games - for the Yankees no less. And while Preston Wilson had a decent enough career, he was not even in the ballpark of the monster known as Mike Piazza.

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HE'S OUT OF THE CAGE! THE MONSTER IS OUT OF THE CAGE! THE MONSTER IS OUT OF THE CAGE! LET'S GO! THE MONSTER IS OUT OF THE CAGE!

"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell

by Rey-O on Apr 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Great writeup, fun read, rec'd

A minor correction, I believe Joe McIlvaine was the GM who made the Olerud trade.

by Sokojoe on Apr 28, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You're right

I was being too generous to Phillips. He came aboard in mid -97. I’ll correct it.

by dcmetsfan on Apr 28, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Carlos Delgado deal should definitely be in the Top 10

I don’t know much about some of those deals because I am only 13 years old so I don’t remember some of those guys, but we gave up literally nothing for him. None of those guys have ever done anything spectacular, maybe Jacobs for a year or two but overall we got very good value. Number 7, the Leiter deal, while it was good, we gave up Burnett a future All Star caliber pitcher, so I think the Delgado deal should be higher than that.

And I like Paul Lo Duca.

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Apr 28, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

It was a tough choice for me

I ranked the Leiter one higher because he was productive for the Mets longer – he was good for about 6 full seasons, whereas Delgado only had about 1.5 productive seasons. But you are right about us shipping away a better prospect for Leiter than for Delgado. In the end, I think Leiter’s longevity wins out (plus I’m sure we would have shipper Burnett off before he was ever effective for us).

by dcmetsfan on Apr 28, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're forgetting several of the best (sorry, double post with above)

Carlos Diaz and Bob Bailor for Sid Fernandez and Ross Jones (1983)

Hundley for Benitez and Cedeno (1999) (let’s not forget how well so many of Steve Phillips’s moves worked in 1999 — signing Rickey and Ventura, this trade, trading for Daryl Hamilton (Ok, trading Jason Isringhausen and Greg McMichael for Billy Taylor wasn’t the brightest move).

Lee Mazzilli for Walt Terrell and Ron Darling (1982, so yes before 1983) — mind-bogglingly good when you consider they parlayed Terrell for HoJo and then still got Mazzilli back for nothing in ’86; easily the best closed set of transactions in Mets history.

(Oh, and I too had a similar reaction to hearing that the Mets traded for Piazza, because I thought it was a waste with Hundley).

by hankwebb on Apr 28, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Good ones as well

I forgot about Sid. I was going to include Darling, but that was a bit too early. Also, the more I think about it, I’d switch the Delgado trade with the Knight trade.

Man, it’s amazing how good Cashen was.

by dcmetsfan on Apr 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

For like the first hour I hated the Piazza trade

b/c I had been arguing for like 2 years with friends that Hundley was just as good as Piazza (hahahaha – what the hell did I know. HOMERZZZ). I got over it very, very quickly though, and I remember being really annoyed when I also went to a Dodgers game and Piazza was getting booed. The crazy thing is that, in that Dodgers series, he already had really respectable numbers as a Met. Of course, from that point on he had like a 1.200+ OPS, which was ridiculous.

I miss Piazza…

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 28, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I remember Maz pitching a fit when the trade happened

because he was traded for two “minor leaguers.”

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on Apr 28, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

more on trades

I’d argue that evaulating the Piazza, Santana, and Hampton trades, which all worked out undeniably well (especially if you trace the hampton trade forward to landing David Wright), need to be discounted somewhat since the selling team was making a pre-free agent salary dump. A list of the best trades should perhaps be limited to the fleecings where the other team is kicking themselves for being so stupid afterward (eg, acquiring Cone, Darling, Fernandez, and Olerud; and of course on the flip side, trading away Ryan, Dykstra, and Kazmir). Hard to argue against the Hernandez as deserving #1, although of course the Cardinals mostly wanted to run him out of town following the cocaine flap.

by hankwebb on Apr 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough to evaluate

I’m glad you brought that up, because I was considering writing an addendum to the post. As I said in my previous comment., Cashen was a fantastic GM, as the number of trades spearheaded by him on this list demonstrates. What I’ve been mulling over since I posted this was how different the trades were. Almost all of the trades here, plus the Darling trade, and even the Orosco-Koosman trade (not sure if he was GM at that point) involved established players. Those types of trades still get made but it doesn’t seem as frequently. Simply put, you built your teams differently back then, and even though free agency already existed, it wasn’t like it is today.

As for the salary dump trades involving prospects, that’s an interesting discussion unto itself. For example, with the Santana deal I seem to remember many Mets fans really hoping that it would not involve either Pelfrey or Martinez, and in the end neither player was dealt. So does Minaya get credit for dealing away lesser prospects, do the Twins get the blame for such a mediocre (at best) haul, or is it some combination of the two? I know that this discussion has been had before, but I honestly am not sure. If you look at all of the prospects dealt above, the only really good one was Burnett. Wilson had some flashes, but he was never close to the player some forecasted him to be. I mean, Mike Jacobs is arguably the third best player involved in all these trades. So, again, is that just a great job by Mets management in these deals holding on to their best chips, the other GM being a dope, or is it just dumb luck?

by dcmetsfan on Apr 28, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cashen was not GM then

Believe it or not, Orosco (and Greg Field ) for Koosman was still under the De Roulets and M. Donald Grant.

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on Apr 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 recent ones that stick out not top ten but good ones

Benson for Jorge Julio and Maine (although Maine was a throw in an he exceded expectaions at the time) Plus we flipped Julio for EL Duque.
Also the Jae Seo trade for Duaner Sanchez was great if not for that damn taxi

by TheKid08 on Apr 28, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Jae Seo did look promising, at times.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

That guy supposedly hated being traded

I remember reading that he refused to sign any memorabilia that showed him on the Mets after the trade.

May you be locked in a battle of wits against Omar Minaya.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Apr 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not even like we sent him to the Royals, or a crappy team, or anything.

The Dodgers, they’re a well-known franchise, they went to the playoffs that year, in 2006…Weird. Oh well, though.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that LA has

a Korean population that’s probably bigger than NYC, so he had a built-in fanbase there. Maybe he was just really in love with the city. I know he got married before the trade (I actually typed the marriage license), and maybe his wife couldn’t go to LA with him. Or maybe he just hates Los Angeles.

May you be locked in a battle of wits against Omar Minaya.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Apr 30, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who knows?

But, if I ever need a marriage license, I know who the go-to guy is.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree on the Piazza deal. I remember being pissed considering we already had Hundley who was killing the ball and then to give up the son of a great former Met to get him pissed me off double.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on Apr 29, 2010 5:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Hundley was on the DL when the Mets made the trade

he hadn’t played since getting hurt the previous September, though he had his best season in ’97 (even though ’96 was the year he hit 41 homers)

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 29, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember the trade

I was on a Memorial Day weekend camping trip in the Catskills with some friends at the end of my senior year of high school and had stopped at a little general store in Phoenicia, NY to get some, er, drinks with my, um, totally legitimate ID when I saw the Daily News sitting by the counter with Piazza’s big grin on the cover. I was blown away. I loved the trade, and the “statement” it made from the beginning. I was only worried that, because of Hundley, they wouldn’t re-sign Mike in the offseason.

So count me as one of the few who was 100% thrilled with the deal.

"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."

-Gina, 3/1/10

by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 29, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Piazza and Patrick Ewing

Are the perfect example that you don’t have to win a championship to be loved. You just have to go to work every day, play hard, play hurt and perform. Mike Piazza was easily my favorite Met ever when he retired (dubs is creeping up on him.)

What Would Matt Szczur Do?

Fact on Villanova Sports

by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 29, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+31

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on Apr 29, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love him a cuntgaggle more

if he dunked that last shot against the Pacers in ’95 instead of attempting that damn finger roll.

by keepcoolbutcare on Apr 29, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, until like age 9

I thought Patrick “E-Wing” and Patrick “U-Wing” were two different players.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing that makes the Keith trade great

is that without it he wouldn’t be announcing for SNY. Also, if HoJo wasn’t traded for, he wouldn’t be the hitting coach, but that’s a different story.

by Mount17 on Apr 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Keith would never have bben on Seinfeld

if he hadn’t been traded either.

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on Apr 29, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

*been

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on Apr 29, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

another reason to keep the paulie lo duca trade out of the top 10

is because paul lo duca was an overrated peice of grabge baseball player but also a terrible human being to boot. what a loser. he wrote a thank you note to his steroid dealer on official LA dodger stationary. then he cheated on his playboy wife with the babysitter. he was also a degenerate gambler. i bet his kid hates his guts! what a failure!

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Apr 29, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, he did have a pretty decent tenure with us, on the field.

And, we gave up pretty much nothing.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he wasnt the worst player

we got some decent value for him in 06 and not so much in 07. his excellent 06 hitting stats and his off the charts grission led him to be rather over rated in 07, when it was clear his skills had deteriorated and we’rent coming back, especially at the end of the year when the mets, wisely for once, decided not to resign him by overpaying for poor veteran performance, as nats had the privilege of doing when they gave him 5million dollars for below replacement level play in 08.

of course the 2 guys we gave up for him never amounted to anything so yeah, overall id say it was a net win, if you dont count the disproportionate showering of affection by overly optimistic mets fans smitten by his tough guy persona.

thats my objective analysis anyway, which is pretty tough to do because as you may have guessed, im not a big fan of paul lo duca’s.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on May 2, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until this post

I thought I was the only one not in favor of the Piazza trade. With so many needs elsewhere having two all star caliber catchers just didn’t make sense to me. Every once in a while I remind myself of this when criticizing yet another bad move by the Met FO.

by t agee on Apr 30, 2010 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Even worse

I’m reasonably certain Mike and the Mad Dog were adamantly in favor of the deal. In fact, I seem to recall that they created such a fever pitch for the deal that it may have even prompted Phillips to get it done.

Ah well, they’ve been wrong about everything else ever since.

by dcmetsfan on Apr 30, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Major League Baseball has formally announced that Citi Field will be the site of the 2013 All-Star Game. (see video) In light of this, I have decided to launch an All-Star Game logo contest. To help get you started, I provided all of you with a sample All-Star Game logo. (click here to embiggen) If you wish to participate, please enter your submission with an image below, in the comments section. The contest ends on May 31st. I will choose a select number of finalists, and the community will vote on which of those logos is the best one.

Can you create a better logo than the sample logo provided? Then, give it a shot. Good luck to all participants!
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