Mets 7, Marlins 1: This Is How You Do It

It was the second ever Opening Day at Citi Field and I took the afternoon off from work. Does it get better than that? Apparently so, as the Mets put a whooping on Josh Johnson and a sloppy Marlins team to the tune of seven runs to one.
Before we get into the recap, a quick note about how we do things for the benefit of those who weren't around at the end of last season. If you're looking for a traditional AP-style recap, scroll down a bit and click the "Traditional Recap" link which will always be included beneath our writeup. We don't really summarize games that way, and I suspect that you're probably here because of that. If you're looking for mainstream coverage of the Mets then you probably came to the wrong place, but I would still encourage you to stick around and get a feel for us before deciding it's not for you.
Johan Santana made his third-straight Opening Day start for the Mets, and while he allowed just one run over six innings he wasn't particularly dominant in doing so. His changeup was occasionally brilliant but oftentimes had very little life, and he did seem to "telegraph" (per Keith Hernandez) it with irritating frequency. Nevertheless, he kept the Mets in the game long enough for the Marlins to fall apart (for their fins to fall off), and overall the performance was good not great, which I suppose is in keeping with the Santana we saw in the second half of 2009.
With Santana struggling in the sixth inning and approaching the arbitrary 100-pitch mark where pitchers' arms fall off, Jerry Manual naturally got Fernando Nieve up in the pen because, hey, you don't want to waste your big guns with 161 games left in the season, right? Santana allowed his one run in the sixth and left Dan Uggla and Jorge Cantu on first and second, respectively, to end the frame. The Mets put up a four spot in the sixth, so when Nieve finally entered the game in the top of the seventh the game was already 6-1 and there wasn't much for him to damage. He wound up allowing a single and a double while striking out two in two scoreless innings, setting the stage for Francisco Rodriguez's dramatic 1-2-3 ninth inning that "preserved" the Mets' 7-1 victory.
The Mets' offense was surprisingly potent, banging out nine hits--including three doubles and a triple--plus four walks and an HBP. Two of the walks came surprisingly from Jeff Francoeur and Gary Matthews Jr.; the former was surprising because he swings at everything, the latter because he isn't any good at baseball. But perhaps I'm being unfair to GMJ, who, despite utter futility for the past three seasons in Los Angeles, has possibly turned a corner with his 2-for-3 game on Monday. Or maybe it's just a sample size aberration given the vagaries of the "law" of small numbers. We'll just have to wait and see on that one.
The best news of the day was probably David Wright's solid game at the plate, as he followed up a solid spring with a big first game of the season, going 1-for-4 with a first-inning two-run home run and a third-inning walk. He already has 10% of his 2009 home run total.
Newcomers Jason Bay and Rod Barajas collected two hits apiece, with Bay legging out a triple in sixth (he would score) and Barajas knocking GMJ home with a double two batters later.
All told, lots to like and very little about which to gripe. Another fine Opening Day for the Mets, who have earned themselves at least one day of favorable back-page headlines.
Poem by Howard Megdal
Wright hits a homer; was last year a dream?
And Johan is totally healthy, I deem
Bay provided his share of production
And bottom of lineup added hits, not suction
The Marlins showed that when it comes to the glove
Their talent is one only a mother could love
Nieve and K-Rod came on, shut the door
It's just one win: play like this, there'll be more
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* FishStripes Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Johan Santana, +21.8% WPA, David Wright, +17.3% WPA
Big losers: Alex Cora, -6.7% WPA, Mike Jacobs, -4.8% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Wright two-run home run in first, +17.4% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Cantu RBI double in sixth, -12.0% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: +24.1% WPA
Total batter WPA: +25.9% WPA
GWRBI!: David Wright
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by Evan_S; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
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| 1 | Evan_S | 91 |
| 2 | KeithsMoustache | 89 |
| 3 | aparkermarshall | 87 |
| 4 | Brian. | 85 |
| 5 | Schmidtxc | 79 |
| 6 | Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright | 64 |
| 7 | cjmulrain | 64 |
| 8 | painiac | 64 |
| 9 | sj10689 | 61 |
| 10 | Sam Page | 60 |
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At least Jacobs made contact?
Is there some kind of silver lining?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 5, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
um.....
He didn’t let 2 pickoff throws get away from him like Gaby Sachez did?
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 5, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn't clog up the basevpaths or kill any rallies?
by Pack Bringley on Apr 5, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
CANNOT HAZ HITZ.
BUT YOU CAN HAZ BLOCKD PITCHEZ!
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
Montell Jordan?
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
hell yeah
thinking of that song made me want to reach for a 40 and then turn it up while a designated driver takes the keys to my truck.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
That song reminds me of this:

The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
If GMJ grows an eraser top
He may elevate himself to favorite player status.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
The important question, if he did that, is:
Would his helmet squish it down, or would his helmet rest on top of his hair a few inches above his head?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
These are the types of important questions that one must ask oneself
when naming a favorite player. His random bouts of backpedaling add to it.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
Decent with the bat today though
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
that's what scares me
Pagan’s going to end up catching in the bullpen soon.
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he had an rbi
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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apparently Jerry didn't see it
someone posted below he’s going to be riding pine for a few more games at least.
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thats ok with me
i like GMJ, he looked good at bat.
in the field, not so much
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Yeah but if Pagan and GMjr are about even with the bat
and Pagans worlds better in the field, wouldn’t you want him to not be the one riding the pine? There’s also the fact he was one of the only productive players for us all of last season, and he’s young and cheap and we’re not willing to play him.
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ok
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All the outfielders seemed to struggle with the wind today.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, GMJr is a bad fielder
but lets see him on a day with a bit less swirling wind before we condemn him totally. He looked bad in ST, but not THAT bad. That said, he’s still not as good as pagan.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 5, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Like it or not
it’s in the best interest of the Mets to play GMj until Beltran comes back. First it helps to establish the myth that he can be an everyday player and if he has a hot month, which I think he is capable of with the bat somebody might be willing to make a package for him.
Basically increase his trade value
I think by May GMj has no role on the Mets
and the only way management will get rid of him is in a trade. If he has a .300 BA with a couple homeruns going into May somebody might want to take a chance on him and actually give up something for him.
I kind of think that GMJ playing well will lead us to trade Pagan.
I just worry that Omar will undervalue him and not get anything in return.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 6, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe to an AL Central team
for a career minor league pitcher.. Naw he wouldn’t be that stupid.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 6, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Would this one kill anyone?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Essentially a flawless win today
Aside from Jacobs,. everyone in the lineup contributed, and the pitching all around was excellent
We’ll see if any of that carries over to Game 2 though
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
My Recap
Things I liked:
- Santana being Santana
- Wright, not only the HR, he smoked a Line drive between ss and 3b that cantu handled well
- Barajas, GMJ, Pagan all got hits
- Bay hustled, a lot. I know no one wants to hear “oh but he tries so hard” but it really does make a difference. He stretched a normal 2B into a 3B and almost beat out a grounder to SS
- Nieve had 2 solid innings of relief
Things I didn’t Like:
- Jacobs obliterating the opportunities between Bay and Wright; he cant hit…
- Cora’s hitting.. and crap range
- The fact that i didn’t see Chris Carter
- Frenchy, though it says 1-4 with 2 rbi he was really 0-4 with 1 rbi on a sac fly. The hit and other RBI came on a botched fly ball dropping between SS, 2B, and CF
Overall a good game by the Mets; fundamentally solid
Francoeur wasn't 1-4, he was 1-2
Walks and sac flies don’t count as AB’s. It was a weak hit, but I’d definitely take 0-2 with a walk and a sac fly from him, espescially when he’s taking pitches.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Small sample size, but Francoeur looked fantastic at the plate.
I really hope we see Pagan on Wed instead of GMJ.
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change has to start somewhere right
not to get ahead of ourselves but if Frenchy can even show league average patience at the plate how much better of a hitter could he be?
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Even if he didn't walk much, just waiting for pitches he can handle would make a world of difference.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Enter better pitch recognition. If Hojo improves this, he might have to be mentioned in the same breath at Jaramillo.
If Frenchy's patience improves
I’m going to assume it has more to do with Wright beating some sense into him with a golf club during one of their outings than with Hojo.
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I don't know
I think it’s just a tiny bit possible that his neurons made a connection they hadn’t made before. Oh, he’s so hilarious. Atlanta tells him he needs to walk more – he’s baffled. HoJo talks to him about recognizing pitches [in order to walk more], he finds it revelatory.
Our Frenchy just seems to have a hard time putting 2 and 2 together to make 4. I’m pretty sure that’s how the rally-killing home run quote came about. He was on his way to the plate one day, with the bases loaded, and somebody says, “don’t swing for the fences, Frenchy, just get a hit, keep the rally going!” Frenchy hears “a home run kills rallies!”
By the way Gina
A few days ago, Sam posted a Worst Opening Day Line-up write up.
I wrote that there was no way GMJ starts over Pagan. You wrote, don’t be so sure. Its clear I over estimate the sanity of Mets decision makers.
Here you go

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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Posting this from my iPhone like the tool I am
From where I was sitting at the stadium (which was, admittedly, the highest row), Gary Matthews actually looked… kinda decent.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
by squid92 on Apr 5, 2010 6:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Reyes, Castillo, Wright, Bay, Davis, Francoeur, Pagan, and Barajas would work just fine
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
substitute murph for davis and we're good.
by Mike Clemente on Apr 5, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And if Johan grows four more arms
we’re even better!
I will also settle for a time machine back to the signing of Perez’s contract, or Minaya developing common sense.
He needs to learn to throw righty too, so he can pitch on back-to-back days.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 5, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, my coworkers and I were talking about this at lunch yesterday
in the context of that guy in the Yankees farm system who pitches with both hands.
Pat Venditte (or some such)
A saw him pitch a little with the SI Yankees, and…It was pretty cool, I’d admit. I think he was a lot better throwing right handed.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Was it in 2008 or last year where he pitched against the Cyclones
and a switch hitter came up and they kept going back and forth trying to gain the advantage?
Don't remember.
I’m 75% sure that that was 2008.
Here’s a clip of it for any interested parties.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing with Davis is that I would rather have him see more lefties in the minors, than learn how to hit them in the bigs. Pagan needs to start though.
by Coolpapabell on Apr 5, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What about with Tejada at 2nd
do you think his (assumed) defensive improvement over Castillo would make up for his likely offensive short comings it would it probably be a lateral move.
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I'm also holding out hope for some sort of Frenchy/Carter platoon
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No he's a butcher at first because of his glove
he’s supposed to be average to slightly above in the outfield.
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Except that he's not a butcher at all.
He’s actually a decent outfielder.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He's awful at first, but decent in the outfield.
Jerry may have that confused.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
no his range is actually pretty good
his glove is awful. But apparently the mets think he’s only a pinch hitter so it doesn’t matter regardless.
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I'd like to give this season to Castillo at 2nd and see if he can develop any sort of value.
Even if it gets to the point that we can get a useful part by eating his whole contract I’d take that as an improvement.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless it gets to mid-season, he sucks, and we're contending.
Maybe give it to Tejada in September if we are out of it.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Tempting
but I’d leave him in the minors. He’s potentially too far away as a hitter. (http://www.amazinavenue.com/2010/3/9/1363837/the-call-up-threshold)
I also want to see if Castillo’s supposed improved footwork/range is anything more than Spring Training chatter.
Was there chatter about Castillo improving?
by James Kannengieser on Apr 5, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice
I missed that one somehow. Costa with some UZR and Plus/Minus mumbo jumbo.
by James Kannengieser on Apr 5, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A couple weeks ago
The Philly Rags were talking about JA Happ’s FIP and I almost shit my pants. Hopefully they have realized by now that his performance last year was a confluence of flukes.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
also that's pretty much always the worst part about this team
if we could just get out of our own way we’d be so much better. I mean how much production would be added just going with an Evans/Murphy platoon at first, Pagan in CF and Carter splitting time with Frenchy in the of.
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I really feel like we must be one of the few teams
who’s fans actively root for their bad players to underperform
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Wow
Well, Jerry has been brilliant so far this year, why stop him now?
Really???
He was the jackass that lobbied for Jenrry…that ruins any good he could do this year.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Internet sarcasm
is sometimes hard to gauge. Unless I have ammassed an impressive body of completely idiotic posts, and some how what I posted above could seem serious.
Sorry
I just got done watching the ESPN guys praising him for playing GMJ, so my sarcasm detector got confused
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly, isn;t this exactly what we wanted to see on opening day?
wright hit a homerun, santana pitched great, bay played great, and even the smaller-name guys contributed
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and jacobs sucked...
i think we wanted gmj to suck too, and mejia to get sent down for some reason
by Mike Clemente on Apr 5, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
negetivity seems to be a common trait in mets fans
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Net gains might look bad in the shortterm, but they're net gains.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
can you blame us?
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
not at all
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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Man
Heyward is doing exactly what we all thought he’d do.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Apr 5, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
homered in his first at bat
joining the likes of Kaz Matsui.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
I like
seeing black guys succeed in baseball. Not a racist thing, it is just unfortunate how few black baseball players there are now compared to the 60s-80s. That being said I could never root for a damn bravo.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Apr 5, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I could definitely root for him
but maybe that has to do with him being on like 3 of my fantasy teams
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Lastings, this years MVP?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Does one count as some?
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
the same one that projected the Mets winning the World Series?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
David Wright?
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Blastings Thrilledge
FTW! McCutcheon is pretty boss too
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel better....
….knowing that the Mets didn’t have a 1st-round pick in ‘07 and thus at least didn’t pass on him.
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 5, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if we had a pick, he went before we would have picked anyway.
Lets just hope we do good things with the #7 pick this year (Chris Sale)
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, we could be Pittsburgh
Daniel Moskos over Wieters and Heyward. Ouch.
The draft is a funny thing though. Remember how everyone gave the Twins crap for being cheap when they took Joe Mauer over Mark Prior. Yeah….
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 5, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
We just need to get a solid player, preferably a pitcher since you can never have too many of those.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
see i'd disagree
i’d rather stockpile bats and then try and trade for a pitcher later from a surplus, too many things can go wrong with pitching prospects.
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My feeling is that the Mets are always going to have enough money to add decent offensive parts through free agency
as long as they aren’t shelling out 20 million plus for a bullpen and have one or two cheaper starters. Free agency seems to produce more pitching busts than hitting busts, so I’d like to see Omar focus on stockpiling lots of good arms.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think free agent pitchers are one of the riskiest ways a team can go, even moreso than pitching prospects.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitching is always a need for every team
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And my thought process is to take the best player available, but if all things between two players are close to equal, take the pitcher.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yikes
that’s the logic that informed some of the biggest busts in the draft. The fact that one player is a pitcher makes the balance automatically unequal.
Thats also the organizational philosophy of the Red Sox
Which is why they have a nearly entirely homegrown bullpen and several homegrown starters as well as several quality arms in the high minors. It’s hard to argue with the results they’ve had in the draft.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it?
Several homegrown starters? They have Lester, maybe Buckholz, and everyone else they’ve traded for or paid for. And I’m pretty sure they’re philosophy has been stockpiling B+-C+ guys rather than chasing high upside A+ boom or bust types. And just looking at their roster, and most of their prospect lists, there’s a lot more homegrown positional players than pitchers.
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DelCarmen, Bard, Papelbon
Tazawa, Bowden, Lester, Bucholtz, Masterson…all of these guys were useful parts last year that came through their system. As far as position players go, I believe they only had Lowrie, Pedroia, Youk, and Ellsbury that they actually developed. I’ll dig and see if I can find that quote from Theo, but I know I read that when they drafted Kelly and wanted him to pitch.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind as well that they traded 4 of their top 20 prospects at the deadline last year, and all of them were pitchers.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if I'd call Tazawa home grown.
I guess, maybe…kinda.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't a pro over there
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 6, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
But I think pitchers are more likely to be worth
what they’re being paid on the FA market than hitters. A hitter like Bay still commands 16 million dollars just because of overvaluing of certain stats.
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I couldn't disagree more.
Pitchers are so much more likely to break down and be worth absolutely nothing. While we are overpaying Bay, he’ll still be a productive player for us. Guys like Pedro and Ollie were (and are) worth absolutely nothing at the end of their deals.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And as a large market team, it should be easy for us to deal with overpating for solid players.
No team can afford to tie up tens of millions in guys like Robertson, Willis, Bonderman, Ollie, Zito, etc.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Omar got about two years and 29 million too much. Bay will end up being worth it for the first three years or so of his contract with his batting numbers alone.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
replace Omar with Ollie
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
But that has nothing to do with the pitching market
Ollie I mean, that has to do with Omar/the mets being idiots. No one thought that was a good idea. So it’s not really a fair comparison. And I’d disagree about Bay it’s more likely he’s going to end up just being worth it this year and being overpaid slightly the next 2 years and then falling off a cliff the last 2.
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Yeah but Pedro was an obvious break down candidate
and everyone but Omar knew Ollie’s contract was a God awful decision before he signed it. I really can’t think of many major pitching overpays, aside from Ollie and Silva, the last 3 years or any pitchers who, because of injuries, are likely to be worth less than they signed for.
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Jason Marquis, Jeff Suppan, Carlos Silva, Ollie, Kyle Lohse, Derek Lowe (not huge, but Bay-like), Dice-K, Kei Igawa, Willis, Bonderman, Nate Robertson, Zito, Pavano, Washburn, Westbrook, Moyer…
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Prior
I mean, the guy had one of the great age 22 seasons of all time. He was better at an earlier age than Lincecum is now, and had he not had Dusty Baker as his manager, might be working on his 4th or 5th Cy Young by now.
Mauer is one of the top 3 players in baseball right now, and I still don’t think he’s as talented as Mark Prior was. The Twins WERE cheap taking Mauer over Prior, they’re just also lucky that it worked out in retrospect.
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or maybe the twins were smart?
even though people said he had pristine mechanics there is some school of thought that thinks his particular type of motion/delivery makes players breakdown candidates.
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sure, I guess that's a possibility
somehow I doubt it though. The Twins are owned by Carl Pohlad, and rather than take the greatest college pitcher since Tom Seaver, they took a local high school product. There were numerous articles at the time that the Twins made that pick in order to avoid paying Prior a ridiculous signing bonus. Additionally, there were numerous articles about how Prior had the “perfect” delivery.
As far as I can tell, the “inverted w” stuff wasn’t really reported until about 2007 (based on a quick google search, so I could be wrong). Now, it’s possible that the Twins had a really progressive front office that saw problems with Prior’s mechanics that nobody else saw, but when the evidence is piled up, I think they were just being cheap. And good for them, it worked out.
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this is totally random
but i wikipediaed the draft and in the background they talked about Mauer and Prior, and then mentioned Howard being picked 5th, yet never said anything about David Wright. I may just be overly sensitive but I find that highly offensive.
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It's easy to ignore the best (or close second) player to come out of that draft.
He’s never won an MVP or World Series ring, plus he had a down year last year so it makes it that much easier.
But anyway I don't actually think they skipped him becaue of the w
but I don’t think you can say it was to avoid paying Prior a ridiculous signing bonus either when they ended up paying Mauer 5.1 million, which was more than Prior got. It could just be that they thought the position player, along with considering he was a hometown kid, was a safer pick.
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I could be wrong
but I feel like I remember everyone being shocked at the price Prior signed for, as in, everyone expected him to get a lot more. Or, maybe it was just that he didn’t want to play in Minnesota and wanted to go to a big market like Chicago, so Boras played up his demands?
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I'm hoping Bryce Harper really wants to play in a big market and demands a ton of money
and Washington, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Kansas City, Cleveland and Arizona all pass on him. Then again, knowing the Mets, they wouldn’t want to draft over slot.
Baltimore and Washington are considered big market
or at least relatively aren’t they? Arizona too sort of.
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yeah I see what you mean
but in Washington’s defense that’s more because of the suck, I imagine if they could not suck for like a decade or so they’d be pretty big media wise. I’m also not sure at this point we’re really a team a player would be dying to play for to the point he’d be actively making it obvious negotiations would be harder for the other teams, even playing in NY. Our reputation seems to have taken some pretty big hits the last year or so or three.
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a wise man once said
the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence
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But there are lots of different schools of thought on that subject,
and it’s a very difficult theory to test. You’d have to voluntarily force kids to pitch in a manner that causes injury to provide evidence of it.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 6, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I've heard almost everywhere the opposite.
Could you elaborate on why you say that?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Rather, not the opposite, but that certain mechanics can contribute to/cause injuries, not make the individual more susceptable to them.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
my guess would be
because there’s probably not been any actual controlled research done on it, for reasons Schmitxc said about.
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I don't care what race a player is
if he’s a Brave or a Philly he can go to hell
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you could say
i’m a racists against phillies and braves.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Observations from a person who was at the game (me):
1) At one point, a beach ball flew out of the stands into right field. Frenchy attempted to kick it into the stands and failed.
2) When the wind kicked up the dirt was flying everywhere. There was also garbage all over the field.
3) The Mets entire medical staff got booed at the beginning of the game. A bunch of other guys got boos here and there, but the fans poured it on the medical staff.
4) They make you leave the Mets Hall of Fame and Museum through the team store. It felt like Disneyworld where they lead you to the gift shop after you get off of a ride.
5) When F-Cat was introduced, to the surprise of no one he was introduced as “from Smithtown, Long Island… Frank Catalanotto!”
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
I get the feeling
That F-Cat is only on this team for some stupid promotion, like “Smithtown day at Citi Field.”
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Who else was booed?
The dumb music was too loud on SNY, so I couldn’t tell who was being booed, as opposed to the music, and general crowd noise.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 5, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ollie was booed pretty vigorously, as was Castillo. Razor Shines was also booed.
Biggest cheers were Wright, Zohan, Kröd Mandoon, Frenchy, Bay, and Feliciano.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
What was the reaction to Jerryballs?
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
legit lol
“Zohan, Kröd Mandoon”
was not expecting that
by Mike Clemente on Apr 5, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Castillo got some boos
Manuel got pretty heartily booed, Warthen got boos, Perez got a lot of boos, Jacobs got a lot of boos (from me)
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My father was with me at the game today
and when I booed Jacobs, he looked at me with surprise. By the 5th inning or so, he had joined back in.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
I hate booing Mets players
I just don’t cheer. C’mon guys, booing Jacobs before the game even started? Afterwards, I can understand since he was pretty lousy. But still—let him show what he can (well, can’t) do first.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
He has for years.
The fact that he hasn’t showed that he sucks in a Mets jersey doesn’t mean he hasn’t proved he sucks
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he doesn't suck
Because of course, he does. But I just hate booing Mets. They’re still our players. That’s the only issue I take.
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Gotcha
They really just need to stand Omar out there to take all of the boos…I think that would limit how much gets directed at the players
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that point of view
and normally, I’d agree. But I feel that this is a dire time, in that we NEED to get Omar and Jerry out of their positions. What better way to do that then to show our disregard for their “acquisitions” like Jacobs?
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
Try holding up signs outside of Sportsnite
Actually, on second thought, don’t try that…
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I watched that episode of Sportsnight, and not once was the outside window shown during the broadcast.
The host had his “desk” in studio, and the camera facing in studio.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
lets not forget my man wincouer
and his winning behavior.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Johnny Damon Smiles-
The Tigers win
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't have any radar guns at the game today
How was Johan’s velocity?
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Average?
Or top out? Where did he top out? Did he throw any sliders?
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Check out the pitch f/x data
but I don’t think his fastball went any higher than 91. It was about 90 most of the day
That's not bad
The writers were saying that his velocity was in the 88’s in spring. That’s good to see.
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you can check mlb.com
they have pitch f/x data for the games.
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Hopefully Wed Jerry does'nt split Wright Bay
with Jacobs. Put him 5th or 6th after GMJ.
nope
With Robertson pitching Jacobs hopefully won’t be in the lineup
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Since it's a platoon
I would hope Tatis is in. Jerry’s already said that Tejada will get in the lineup against the lefty.
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i understand platooning
but i REALLY don’t like the idea of platooning a prospect, of course I don’t like the idea of him sitting on the bench for two week either so I guess I should be thankful for small victories.
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I don't like it either
He should be playing every day in AAA. I saw it was discussed in a thread today, but I’m starting to think that Tejada might phase out Castillo this year even.
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He's only going to miss one or two AAA games
He’ll be back in Buffalo saturday
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He's likely going down on Saturday anyway, so it's not that big a deal.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard Alex Cora
Would make a great Buffalo Shortstop
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We owe Buffalo a competitive team
We can’t be doing that
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 6, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm willing to donate
jenrry meija, gmjr and mike jacobs to the cause
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Do GMJ and Jacobs help though?
I guess Mike Jacobs kind of looks like a Bison…he could be the backup mascot
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 6, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, beggars can't be choosers.
be happy you get Meija, F-mart and Davis, and probably Tejada too, that should be enough to distract you from the bills.
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and unfortunately they'll probably get to keep chris carter
since y’know, he’s just a pinch hitter.
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Jacobs would probably be pretty good in AAA
he seems to me like the stereotypical AAAA player, who, because of one hot month and a 32 homer season has been kept in the majors, while guys like Val Pascucci and Chris Carter get kept in AAA.
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I don't know if you caught it, but we released Pascucci about a week ago
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 6, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Why hasn't this guy at least had a shot somewhere?
He was great in AAA for a while but only has 74 major league PA from 2004
I game down
K-Rod vests in 54 games.
Apart from that I was pleased. Good start for the most part, though the lack of Carter still bothers me
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by blueandorange4life on Apr 5, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
It's 55 in 2011 and 100 in 2010/2011 combined
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So 45 this year makes it as easy as possible for him to make the number next year.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said in the game thread, I hope if he's healthy mid-season next year they just extend him.
That way they can spread that money out some.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 5, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
duaner sanchez got hurt in the cab ride
looking for Cuban food. Which I think henceforth should be referred to as the Cuban Cab Crisis.
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oh, i thought it was 55 in both
my bad
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by blueandorange4life on Apr 6, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
random but I spent like 5 minutes typing in random variations on kelvim, kevin
and rodriguez/rodrigues into cots trying to figure out why the mets team was popping up before I remember his name didn’t start with a k.
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hahahaha
Doc Kooden?
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 5, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Congratulations Mets and Mets fans
Didn’t see the game but did see some highlights. I was @ Nationals Park watching the Phillies pummel the Nats. It was incredibly disturbing. Not just the play of the Nats but the fact that I felt like I was watching the home opener in Philadelphia as opposed to DC. The Philly Phaithful were everywhere. Like roaches. Chanting: “Let’s go Phillies” and “This is our house.” Geez…
Ok, ok. Back to the Mets. Enough euphoria about a game we won and should have one anyhow. Tomorrow comes the real test. So does the day after that and the day after that. Then we will see what we’re made of.
Good to see smiles on the faces of the Mets ballplayers. :-)
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 5, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
hey Lou nice to see you back posting
divided loyalties and all. that must have been disturbing to watch.
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by itsmetsforme on Apr 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
man that must have been brutal to see in person
but at least it gives me hope the Nats won’t yield last place to the Mets.
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 5, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I had tickets to go today
but I decided to go to work instead (and watch the Mets on the computer), and I’m glad I did. All I saw on the Metro were Phillies fans. Just awful
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Well, my NL team won
Good game, glad to see Wright back in his usual form. Too bad my Royals couldn’t have gotten the job done as well, bullpen is gonna be a further disaster this year.
damn the royals and the mets
that’s real love for the game.
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Tell me about it
I live in KC, and have yet to live to see a Royals playoff game. I remember 2003 being the greatest season I’ve seen from em, and it was still just a 3rd place finish.
by TheSmokingPun on Apr 5, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
New commenter
Started using SBNation for my completely purposeless Knicks fandom and found myself over here once the baseball season started, hope to be here more often and hope to see more games like this.
162-0
The start of something special.
by James Kannengieser on Apr 5, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Omar already went full retard.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
kinda negative vibe
I know the mets were not too hot last year and dont have huge expectations but seemed like a negative vibe in the recap. Everything was so and so did this but it was lucky, or dont expect it in the future. Good Game good read, just felt put off by it a bit
Tempered optimism
It was a nice win, and we all enjoyed the game and the victory, but to your point, I don’t expect this kind of performance in the future from Gary Matthews Jr. or Rod Barajas. I may hope for it, but I’m not delusional.
I love the Contra photo btw
I suddenly have the urge to climb a waterfall by flipping upwards.
Onto the game:
Can’t really ask for more, the new guys performed, Wright and Johan seem to have their mojo and Jacobs sucked. Didn’t Wright also homer in his first spring training ab too? He means business.
Maybe if Jacobs starts out about 0 for 22 they cut him? Nah, probably not. But, we can dream.
The GMJ walk shouldn't be surprising.
He doesn’t do many things well, but he walks at a very decent rate (9.8%) throughout his career.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 6, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Nice win to see
Except there are only a few things I would like to see. Yes Jacobs didn’t do too well today but the thing with him is that next game he will hit a three run bomb. But thats what you get with him, a mediocre average with good power. Delgado used to go 0-4 too while also banging in bunches of hrs. I would however like to see Carter on the roster instead of Tatis. That is something I just dont get, that we use Tattis instead of him. Carter can play the same positions, is younger and is a better batter. He and Jacobs could switch at 1b with the other as a good pinch hitter. Then I think that Pagan would be an upgrade over GMJ, possibly thou. GMJ was good offensively today and I think he can be good this year. And also what about putting Tejada at second instead of Castillo. I think that would be much better. Defensively for sure and probably offensively too. I’m excited for our offense though. I knew Barajas and Frenchie would be useful bats. And imagine once Reyes and Beltran are back in the lineup how much better this team will be. Good things so far.
whoa there
yea, Delgado would have a few 0-4 nights (so does Albert Pujols, btw), but the point is that Delgado had WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY less of them than Jacobs does. He also had more power. And more patience. And was better in the field. I have a hunch that if Jacobs is the first baseman all year, he ends up with worse numbers than Delgado’s awful 2007 season.
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he ends up with Frenchy esque 2007 numbers
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by firejerrynow on Apr 6, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
ah, I mean Frenchy 2008 numbers
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yeah, Carter would probably be better than Tatis
but he’d IS better than Jacobs, and Tatis IS better than Jacobs. So, Carter and Tatis should be on the team, not Jacobs
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by firejerrynow on Apr 6, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Whatever you get with Jacobs
it adds up to below replacement level while Delgado was well above.
Yes.
We all claim not to be, but…You know.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 6, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The countdown to 2011 has begun...
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