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We Believe In Comebacks Applesauce - Carter Is Clutch, Francoeur Is Upset, Phillies Are Dirty Cheaters

Rule #1 in the Mets roster management handbook the last few seasons has been "When in doubt, play the veteran." The Carter-for-Catalanotto swap is a rare move that defies that credo, and a big reason why last night's win was so damn satisfying. It wasn't just a player delivering a clutch hit to win a game -- it was a shot fired at a stubborn front office which employed Marlon Anderson, Julio Franco and Guillermo Mota while casting aside the likes of Ruben Gotay, Nick Evans and Heath Bell. Or maybe I'm just looking for meaning where there is none.

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Meet the Mets

Chris Carter delivered when called upon last night and teammates are already saying his attitude is infectious. Ken Davidoff wonders if Carter can be the next AAAA sensation, a la Kevin Maas.

Mark Simon at ESPNNewYork uses some crazy acronyms called FIP and BABIP to analyze Mike Pelfrey and Jon Niese thus far.

Jeff Francoeur is angry that the Phillies have gained three extra home games due to the G-20 Summit in Toronto. When Frenchy gets angry, he, umm, flies Delta?

Andrew Marchand deserves some kind of award for breaking ranks with the New York media circle jerk in pointing out Francoeur's struggles over the last month or so. Of course, Marchand couldn't deviate from the "blame the superstar" rule, and had to throw this in at the end of his post:

David Wright has been the biggest problem. He entered Tuesday night, having struck out nine times on this homestand.

Out Machine Gary Matthews Jr. remains on the roster and Jerry Manuel offered lukewarm support. GMJ is the only remaining member of the Terrible Three.

Brian Mangan points out that even the best players are streaky. The platitude that Wright is an unusually streaky player has always bothered me so this post was enjoyable.

Joe Janish wants to know what's wrong with Jose Reyes.

Check out TedQuarters for a picture of Pelfrey and John Maine with their biker gang.

The next Amazin' Tuesday event will be held on May 18 at Two Boots Tavern at Grand Central Station. Those attending include Greg Prince and Jason Fry of FAFIF, Jon Springer of Mets By The Numbers, Taryn Cooper of My Summer Family and Josh Wilker of Cardboard Gods.

Around MLB

The Phillies have been warned by MLB for stealing signs. Their bullpen coach was seen using binoculars to look at the Rockies' catcher, Miguel Olivo, during Monday's Phils-Rockies game. Unsurprisingly, notorious bush league ballplayer Shane Victorino is at the center of the controversy as well. In all seriousness, sign stealing is just part of the game but the use of binoculars and a bullpen phone is a bit seedy.

The Braves will retire Tom Glavine's number.

SportsAngle and Hardball Talk examine the double standard that exists regarding the treatment of those caught using PEDs in MLB vs the NFL.

The MLB Network's ratings aren't so hot. Worse than the Golf Channel and Versus, in fact.

Outside MLB

Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight unveiled a new statistic: VORJ, or Value Over Replacement [Supreme Court] Justice. No politics is generally the rule here, but this is worth sharing. Silver was one of the founders of Baseball Prospectus.

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Did we accuse the Phillies of stealing signs a few years ago?

I love it that we complain about it and nothing. But the moment the Rockies complain: BAM!

by Lunkwill Fook on May 12, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah but you’d think if they were serious about the Mets accusations, they might have looked into it at some point.

by Lunkwill Fook on May 12, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

True that.

Hey, the Phils were just emulating that other paragon of sports excellence, the Pats.

by tmu on May 12, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Binoculargate!!!

Bill Belichek denies any involvement but doesn’t understand the backlash because there is nothing in the rules

by Rickfansince76 on May 12, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other non-MLB news:

The sale of the Nets to crazy Russian billionaire was approved. I suppose this makes the Nets fan(s) happy?

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 12, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

The new owner or the fan?

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 12, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shite

The was supposed to be a question mark after “difference”

There go the Catskills.

by tmu on May 12, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

you have no idea

i’m building an alter to him as we type

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 12, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if we will see Russian players

“If He dies, he dies” Ivan Drago from Rocky IV

by Rickfansince76 on May 12, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You never experienced Drazen Petrovic.

Yeah, it was the early 90s and not this decade but damn did they strike gold there. I’m no Nets fan, but that dude was good. Pity he had to die too soon.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 12, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he was a Croat. Why he was left off of NBA jam is beyond me.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who were the Nets?

Kenny Anderson and DC, if I can recall correctly.

by James Kannengieser on May 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Kenny and DC. Sometimes Goerge Clinton when I wanted to keep it funky.
Apparentley Drazen was only in the arcade version.

Thank goodness that Starks was in it.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

From an ESPN, about Petrovic haunting the arcade game

What’s the rumor we hear about NBA Jam being haunted?
We had already finished making NBA Jam when Drazen Petrovic died. The game had already shipped and he was on the Nets. So we had all of these coin-op machines around, and one night we were playing Mortal Kombat and there was a Jam machine next to it, and all of a sudden the game started calling out “Petrovic!” “Petrovic!” And this only happened after Petrovic had died. Everyone started freaking out. Something weird was going on with the software, and to this day, if you have an original NBA Jam machine every once in a while it will just yell out “Petrovic!” It’s wild.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

LKEF:JFEFJKLEFEJKLWFEWKFEW YES

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on May 12, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Janish

It’s hard to know when Jose should start to hit. There’s a tendency, when players are hurt, to think they disappear into the ether and return when their DL stint ends. That’s not the case. Instead, they’re working like heck to rehab, stay in shape, etc. Reyes, however, was not. Because of the nature of his “injury”, he had to sit on his couch for weeks and start from scratch. In this day and age, no one who survives on Reyes skill set can take any extended period of time off like that without it setting him back considerably.

Additionally, how long is Spring training? He’s barely been up for that length of time, and he’s taking on pitchers who have had a full Spring to round into form.

So, yes, it is frustrating, but blaming lineup spots and the like doesn’t make much sense quite yet. Talk to me after the ASB.

by tmu on May 12, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't catch this, but:

Did Chris Carter really come out to “I Am A Real American”? If so, that dude is already a legend.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 12, 2010 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I can see him charging the mound in Philly. . .

but after flattening the pitcher and vaulting over Rollins, heading out to center to get Victorino in a sleeper hold.

by tmu on May 12, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He lives on being tazered

His Mom tazered him every morning to get him out of bed for school. His teachers would tazer him when he got an answer wrong and twice when he got it right.

Tazer is life for the Animal

Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."

by scott from peekskill on May 12, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hear

he keeps one where his cup should be.

by tmu on May 12, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Carter

is terrifying. He could be dropped single-handed into a warzone to wipe out a platoon of crazed killers using only his tape-laden bat, rapid uppercut swing and ice-cold stare.

by deadspy3 on May 12, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

The stare would be the only thing necessary

the bat and swing would be just for fun.

Jesus wants to be like Ryan Miller when he grows up.

by Ogre39666 on May 12, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ace and Gary

I mean, Howie and Wayne, were also describing Francouer’s struggles over the last month on the radio last night. The numbers were pretty putrid. They weren’t being total homers.

They then added a twist to the “Jerry gives GMJ lukewarm support” story. They interpreted it to mean he may now start getting 2-3 starts a week, just to make sure he doesn’t really suck and it isn’t a question of him just sucking in a sporadic, part-time role. I don’t think this was their opinion, but what they took from what Jerry was saying. Beltran can’t heal soon enough.

by wobatus on May 12, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

WTF?!

That was my reaction when I turned on the tv when I got back to my apartment. When I left the cold and lifeless Citifield, I was sure that the offense wasn’t going to do much. Having seen the bottom of the sixth inning start with DWright, and end with Barajas, I was sure this line-up and this game was as dead as disco. I am not one to leave a game early, especially with the Mets, but this offense has given me little reason hope for 4 runs.

The half empty park, and the nasty weather left me with litte desire to freeze and hope for an unlikely comeback, so I hopped on the train to get my sorry behind back to Brooklyn.

8-6 mother ****er. I missed a good one. lesson learned.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope that lesson is "stay the hell away from Citi Field"

you leave, they put up a 6 spot? I don’t believe in coincidences…

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on May 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well just don’t bother watching Saturday home games because I have the Saturday ticket plan.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn you

It’s cool though. They’re on a 5 game losing streak in games I’ve gone to…I’m not gonna stop going though.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on May 12, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Today would be the perfect day to start Carter in RF.

1. RHP Craig Stammen starting for the Nats: Carter crushes RHP.
2. Pelf pitching for us: high groundball% will reduce the balls hit to the OF.
3. Francoeur “struggling” may benefit from an off day game.
4. Ride the hot hand after yesterday? Not something I truly believe, but he has an 11(?) game hitting streak.

However the lineup goes:
Pagan
Cora
Reyes
Bay
Wright
Davis
Francouer
Barajas
Pelfrey

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on May 12, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Carter should play

It sends a good message besides the fact that it is a good match up for him. I mean a guy gets a big hit, play him maybe he injects some energy and hits for a day or 2.

but Frenchy did have a good game. although he is strarting to strikeout

by Rickfansince76 on May 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't that good a game from Frenchy

1 single and a sac fly is nothing much. He’s had about 1 extra base hit in the last 8 or 9 games.

by David G on May 12, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad Frenchy noticed

maybe he can get someone in the front office/the wilpons to notice.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 12, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Why are the Mets so stingy about retiring numbers?

I know they never won a World Series with Piazza, and none of the ‘86 guys had as much sustained success as Mets as Maddux/Glavine did for the Braves, but still…those guys get their numbers retired less than a year after retiring. I find it kind of embarrassing that Stengel’s number is retired, but Piazza’s isn’t.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on May 12, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

It will be

He retired on May 20, 2008. That’s only 2 years ago.

Jesus wants to be like Ryan Miller when he grows up.

by Ogre39666 on May 12, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

But just because the Braves are rushing to retire Maddox’s and Glavine’s numbers, doesn’t mean the Mets should with Piazza’s.

It takes 5 years after retirement to be eligible for the HoF. I’d like to see it retired the year before he goes to Cooperstown (since he’s a 1st balloter, that’d be 4 years after he called it quits – so 2 more years, from now). If it’s still not retired a year after he’s in (4 years from now), then I’d get worried.

Jesus wants to be like Ryan Miller when he grows up.

by Ogre39666 on May 13, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang you Mets!!!

That was truly a crushing loss that put me into Natinals relapse mode. Combine that with the utter egg that Jason Marquis laid while rehabbing for high A Potomac and it was a horrible night all around for the Nationals. Every time he takes the mound, Jason Marquis inflicts his Ministry of Suck for the Nationals.

I’m still of the mindset that this one is you guys finally capitalizing on our awful bullpen and poor defense. Bringing up Carter was certainly a solid mood that was the fatal blow, but Bruney has been godawful all season and the Natmosphere has got to dialogue and figure out how to get rid of him.

The New York Times article featuring Tyler Clippard was a stroke of genius to unnerve Peaches and bring on his epic meltdown. Propaganda, the final weapon in the Mets return to glory and a truly frightening force.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 12, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Alex Cora writes for the NY Times as Mets Propaganda Sleuth

hence the large contract… makes so much sense now!

Travis Hafner is made of gold

by Super Mario on May 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

We've clearly signed author Miguel Batista...

…to try to write propaganda for us. But clearly, he is consumed in trying to convince our media that he actually doesn’t stink and contributes some actual value to our team. Not ready to cut him yet, but give me a week and a half and I can be pushed.

Bruney, however, can go. When your guys perpetually stink it’s horrible. When they are former Yankees, it’s intolerable.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 12, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

alex cora is starting again today. does jerry not know about the vesting option? or worse…does he know?

"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell

by Rey-O on May 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I imagine Castillo must be injured

so damnit bring up Tejada.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 12, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was anyone else impressed

by Castillo’s snag deep into Paganistan? That was a feat making it all the way to shallow center to catch the fly ball. What is more, he did it on one leg.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Castillo is getting on base

he really hasn’t been the problem at the plate. It woul dbe nice if he could hit a 2B once in awhile but he does get a baseknock consistently. He is probably sitting just because he can’t play 3 in a row anymore

by Rickfansince76 on May 12, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but if he can't play 3 in a row

that means we’re going to be seeing cora way more than anyone wants to see him. Friggin a.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 12, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Too much Cora is too much for me. If you bring in Tejada though, he is going to have to split time with Cora backing up SS and 2b. I would rather have him get playing time at AAA.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

he probably knows

he probably also knows he’s gonna be fired at the end of the season, so “hey, screw the Mets”

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on May 12, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

its the only explanation

for so many things

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 12, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Rickfan posted this in fanposts

I’m assuming it was deleted because it should be a fanshot but I don’t want to steal his thunder so I’ll just repost the link here.
Mets exec talks to Islanders about a new arena

NEW YORK (AP)—Mets chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon has talked to New York Islanders owner Charles Wang about building an arena for the NHL team near Citi Field.
.

Wilpon says he also talked to Wang about the possibility of buying the team.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 12, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

No, shut up dude.

The Wilpons would destroy the Icelanders. This can only be a good thing.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 12, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilpons

should sell the mets and buy them… just saying

by DWEEEZ on May 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

sell them to the rich russian!

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 12, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Step 1: the Nets

Step 2: The Mets

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

It could actually distract Jeff from screwing up the Mets. Maybe he could just buy the Islanders and sell the Mets.

By the way, I can’t wait to see an hockey game at Citifield. I hope the Islanders aren’t involved.

by Coolpapabell on May 12, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

the only team I’m actually optimistic about. I will not abide this

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on May 12, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

heheh...wang

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on May 12, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Gmail status for the day...

“Mets marketing department: “We Believe in Comebacks”. This morning they woke up, looked at last nights box score and were like “holy #$&% we thought it was going to be like religion something we thought was true but couldnt ACTUALLY be proven”"

Im glad we’re on the same page with the Applesauce title.

This team is capable of winning in spite of Jerry and is clearly pressing at bat most of the time, maybe its a clubhouse issue with leadership from Manuel? That would pretty much bring his manager WAR to like -15. But seriously, thank God they finally saw the light and gave Carter a chance even if he fails itll be worth it to see him try than Cats (who we liked as a person) look confused up there every day.

by DWEEEZ on May 12, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Carter not in starting lineup today

Anyone surprised? Seemed like a perfect opportunity to put him there. But no, “Francouer plays everyday!” And he also is hitting about .210 vs. righties. Maybe Frenchy should be more upset about that instead of worrying about Philly home games.

by David G on May 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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