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It's really not so bad.
They came up with something similar to what I would do.

Here's theirs:
1. Reyes
2. Pagan
3. Wright
4. Bay
5. Davis
6. Barajas
7. Frenchy
8. Castillo
9. Pitcher

I'd prefer something like this:
1. Reyes
2. Pagan
3. Davis
4. Wright
5. Barajas
6. Bay
7. Frenchy/Carter
8. pitcher/Castillo
9. Castillo/pitcher

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Bay 6th?

Behind Barajas no less? That’s nuts.

by tm on May 14, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...I'm regretting that part

But I don’t like Frenchy and Barajas back-to-back

I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.

by EMSfan9 on May 14, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I submitted the lineup that Cerrone ultimately posted

Don’t want to overburden Davis so early in his career, especially if he’s getting comfortable. And I really like Castillo 8th. He’s likely to get on and get bunted over by the pitcher. And it breaks up the Frenchy-Barajas-pitcher free swinging black hole.

Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.

by Preach19 on May 14, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't remember exactly what mine was, but it was something like this"

Reyes
Wright
Davis
Bay
Pagan
Barajas
Francouer
Pitcher
Castillo

I’d be open to moving Pagan to 2nd and sliding everyone else down. If Frenchy were replaced with someone who can hit they would likely move up in front of Barajas.

by twon8 on May 14, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

mine is probably

castillo
reyes
Bay
Wright
Davis
Pagan
a bunch of people I don’t care about

I don’t think we’ll ever seen Castillo 9th and I’m not sure between him and Pagan who’s the better(worse) choice in the top, I just don’t want both of them up there.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm a fan

i just don’t care about him as far as line up construction

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 14, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Reyes & Wright 1&3 connection

Was the best in baseball from 2005-2008. Wright drove in Reyes teamed up for more RBIs/runs than any other combo. Why switch it up?

I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.

by EMSfan9 on May 14, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Having too many productive hitters at the top

was limiting the number of times Jerry could sacrifice early in games.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 14, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was looking for the exact stats to back it up

But my Bill James handbook is at home and I can’t find it online

I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.

by EMSfan9 on May 14, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

It’s like Jerry thinks the #2 batter’s ONLY job is to bunt the leadoff guy over.

by Joshuah on May 14, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is mine

1. Wright
2. Pagan
3. Reyes
4. Bay
5. Barajas
6. Davis
7. Francouer
8. Pitcher
9. Castillo

I realize that Wright hitting leadoff is kind of wacky. Sure he has his power back this year, but he hasn’t gotten going yet. I want him to focus on just getting hits. I would prefer he hits .320 with 25 homers than .300 and 35 homers. As for Reyes, if Wright does a backwards thingy and hits for power anyway then Reyes might not feel like the leadoff spot needs power and he can hit for hits. Then they both get going.

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on May 14, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

that's a rather arbitrary preference

especially if his obp and slg are unchanged, then why do you honestly care

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on May 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heres mine

Reyes
Castillo
GMJ
Wright
Bay
Tatis
Blanco
Frenchy
P

by TheKid08 on May 14, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Joke?

Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...

by Stephen Schmidt on May 14, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reyes

Castillo
Wright
Bay
Davis
Carter
Pagan
Barajas
Pitcher

Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...

by Stephen Schmidt on May 14, 2010 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Mine:

Wright
Reyes
Pagan
Bay
Francoeur
Davis
Barajas
Pitcher
Castillo

by EtSuKe on May 14, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I kind of like this one, maybe flip Frenchy and Ike

I don’t know, but I remember reading an article or something about lineup optimization and it determined that your best hitter should be batting 2nd, I can’t remember where I read it at though. Any lineup of mine would have Wright 1st or 2nd, I just think you need to get your best players the most at-bats, period.

ain't had enough...

by BlackOps on May 14, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I thought your best

should be 1,2,4

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 14, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and currently

They sit at 5-3-4

I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.

by EMSfan9 on May 14, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My contribution

Pagan
Reyes
Wright
Bay
Davis
Barajlanco
Frenchy/Animal
Castillo
Pitcher

by deadspy3 on May 14, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd go

Reyes
Wright
Pagan
Bay
Davis
Barajas
Francoeur
Pitcher
Castillo

If we had a deeper lineup, I’d love to see Reyes hitting 3rd. This will do though. Plus batting Wright second has the advantage of reducing the amount of times Manuel can bunt. He wouldn’t be crazy enough to sacrifice with Wright…. i don’t think.

by yellomellojello on May 14, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Anything

as long as Castillo (or Cora, if he’s filling in for Castillo), bats ninth and the pitcher eighth.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way

by myrick4gm on May 14, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

kind of going out on a limb here

thoug mainly because a more “normal” one has basically been suggested a million times.

Reyes
Wright
Bay
Pagan
Davis
Francoeur
Barajas
Pitcher
Castillo

by clip on May 14, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the Metsblog lineup, mostly

1st of all: Anything that puts Reyes hitting leadoff is already 100x better
2: Wright IS the 3 hitter, historically speaking, probably the best overall batter (Has power, some speed, and hits for AVG)
3: I-Like-Ike… Batting 5th. He seems like that batter that will always get the bat on the ball, and have very few strikeouts (once he has been around a bit longer of course)
4: Barajas hitting 6th makes sense. If an inning starts on 3 or 4 hitter, Barajas is always hit the ball in the air (from what i’ve seen so far) and is a HR threat
5: Get Carter some starts in Right, let is be a competition with Frenchy
6: I think Castillo should hit 9th. An interesting theory mostly used by LaRussa. Pitcher 8th and Castillo 9th.

by VinnyG917 on May 15, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Castillo
Reyes
Wright
Bay
Davis
Barajas
Pagan
Francoeur

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on May 15, 2010 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Mine with Beltran

Reyes
Wright
Bay
Beltran
Davis
Barajas
Failcoeur
Castillo
Pitcher

without Voltron
Reyes
Pagan
Wright
Bay
Ike
Barajas
Failcoeur
Castillo
Pitcher

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on May 15, 2010 6:05 AM EDT reply actions  

If you try to read this thread from top to bottom you get extremely confused

And the names mean nothing to you anymore

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on May 15, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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