Gains from losses

by sagecoll on May 15, 2010 3:09 AM EDT

Let me be the first to say that I have loved the Mets since birth, and have suffered as you all have with this love. Though I believe that losing this season (as in letting Minaya ride it out and not make any significant transactions) is for the best.

Here's why:

Regardless of the health of our key players (or fringe players for that matter), the predictions that all of us with any statistical background have made will probably come true. The Mets will finish under 500, due to utter incompetence on the part of Omar Minaya (perhaps the most frustrating part is watching Ollie today while Carlos Zambrano isn't even good enough for the Cubs rotation...).

With that in mind, this is my "goal" for 2010.

1) Mets go 70-92. or some other ridiculous record

2) The Wilpon's seeing the light and amidst cries from the fanbase, fire Omar Minaya (I'm assuming Jerry is gone by August).

3) Omar is replaced a GM with a head (not just a gut), Thad Levine, Damon Oppenheimer, Dan Jennings are all fine (though I have a weird feeling the Mets will look within)

4) With a good GM, there is no 4.

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I feel the same way

While it’s probably against nature to root for your team to lose, it’s the only way things will turn around for the Mets. Omar and Jerry are equally terrible and no way this team will contend till there’s someone competent sitting in the managers seat and in the FO. And that will only happen if the team continues to lose and pressure builds on the Wilpons.

by Blame-everyone-else on May 15, 2010 10:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Normally,

losing would guarantee wholesale changes in management. But with the Wilpons, I’m not entirely sure that’s gonna happen.

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 15, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions

this

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 15, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions

there will probably be whole sale changes in management

but it doesn’t mean the change will be for the better. nothing we know about the wilpons should lead us to believe they would hire anyone more capable than omar. the mere fact that they extended him in the middle of all this nonsense should tell us enough about their mindset.

"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell

by Rey-O on May 16, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions

There are too many X factors

to ever root to lose. For all we know, another terrible year would scare off the next franchise-saving player or even manager.

“Rooting to lose” sounds like an attempt to exert control over a frustrating and uncontrollable situation because 162 games is a long time to just hope for the best. It’s completely understandable but I have a better suggestion, and one with immediate and direct (albeit tiny) effect: do not spend another dime on the ballclub until they make the front office and managerial changes we want.

by Kepler on May 16, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions

at this point there's no franchise saving player

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 16, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Babe Ruth?

power bat, great pitcher. He would solve a lot of problems…

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on May 17, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Of course

we’d be paying a lot of money to a dead guy. That’s like what we’re doing with Bobby Bonilla, only even worse somehow.

by JoshNY on May 17, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

What about Babe Ruth's head?

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on May 17, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Hank Aaron XXIV is availible to suit up with us.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 17, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions

At least he's not the worst blernsball player ever...

by Evan_S on May 18, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions

this

by Dan Lewis on May 17, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Another bad record nets us another low draft pick (if the team spends the money)

I was at an Orioles game last year at Camden (nice place), and these two Orioles fans were yapping with me and my half-brother, and though they had to concede that we had the better record, they got the better draft pick. All things considered, I think they are getting the last laugh (though the O’s are a far cry from being relevant still).

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 16, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions

That would help

If the Mets actually knew how to draft. The Mets dealt Billy Wagner for Chris Carter. The Red Sox let Billy Wagner walk 2 months later for the 20th overall pick and a supplemental 1st round pick….You think the Mets have any interest in the draft (aka winning)…?

by sagecoll on May 17, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions

They have an interest in winning

It’s just that they have no clue as to how to go about doing it.

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on May 17, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions

They have an interest in revenue

Not winning….Though the two are not mutually exclusive. They need to sell seats, and the fact is they won’t this year unless they fire Omar mid-season. I doubt they’d actually do that, so instead of letting Omar make a “big move” aka, deal every respectable prospect for an aging veteran who is overvalued, let him walk, cut payroll by about 30 mil going into next year (in actually this isn’t that hard, considering that getting Maine, Francoeur, Escobar, Feliciano, Cora, Tatis, etc off the books will net us about 20 mil) If we put the team in a smart GM a la Mike Rizzo or Jack Zduriencik, we should be ok. The reason why fans worry isn’t because of losses per se, it’s because they know Omar is clueless

This really isn’t a hard concept: Find someone competent, give him the authority, and just watch.

by sagecoll on May 18, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions

they want to win now, not 5 years from now

by KeithsMoustache on May 20, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

They want to profit now, not in 5 games from now.

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on May 20, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

It's the only move

The Mets can make. At this rate, the Wilpons will have to sell the team if they have 2 more seasons with this attendance rate. They have to have a gm who can money manage and cut payroll without losing quality….that’s only going to come from a stat head guy…If the Wilpons want to keep the team, it’s their only move. They can’t handle 5 years of this…

by sagecoll on May 20, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions

that makes sense

if you think the wilpons aren’t utterly retarded. They’re losing revenue in mass from the mets, likely to lose 50 million in Madoff related lawsuits, and apparently discussing buying the Islanders, something doesn’t add up.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 20, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions