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Nationals 5, Mets 3: Dickey Strong, Can't Get Any Relief

I submit that this was one of the more unique, and strangely fun, games in team history. There was:

Maybe one of the FanGraphs guys can calculate the chances of all that happening. Sure, Livan Hernandez walked more than he struck out and the Mets managed just five total hits, even if there were some unlucky line-drives-turned-outs. But what is to be expected when the team's best hitter, David Wright, is given a day off? Try as anyone might, there isn't a way to pin this loss on David.

Dickey was sturdy if unspectacular in six innings of work (five hits, two runs, four walks, two strikeouts). Nationals batters seemed to figure him out the second time through the order. He won't be able to sustain success if the K:BB ratio isn't better, but it's fun watching the knuckleball and he should stick around to eat some innings. Dickey was lifted in the top of the 7th for pinch hitter Alex Cora after Henry Blanco led off with a single. To the surprise of no one, Jerry Manuel called for a sacrifice bunt. Jerry is revolutionizing management strategy, one pinch bunter at a time. That's two games in a row that a pinch hitter was used to lay down a bunt. Is it possible that Jerry's lieutenants realize how ridiculous some of these decisions are, yet don't say a word to keep the attention on the general's job security as opposed to their own? Maybe. It's a theory. Ripping Jerry's moves has become boring, but it's always worth documenting when he adds a new chapter to Jerryball: The Art Of Giving Away A Game. Pinch hitting for the pitcher then calling for a sacrifice bunt is such a move.

The bullpen went flaccid in relief of Dickey, allowing three runs in the 7th. Fernando Nieve continued to be ineffective, giving up two hits and two runs in his brief one out stint. He has only one strikeout in his last eight appearances, spanning 5.2 innings. Basically it was a prototypical Jerry game -- pinch bunting, a high-leverage Nieve appearance and burning through four relievers in two innings.

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Another fun aspect of tonight's game was the opportunity for somewhat lewd puns on Dickey's last name. A sample of alternative recap titles, mostly aggregated from the tonight's gamethread:

  • Dickey Strong, Lineup Limp
  • Pulling Dickey Makes Angel Sad
  • Dickey Rises, Mets Flaccid
  • RA Dickulous
  • Dickey Stands Tall As Mets Go Down
  • Dickey Lasts Six, Mets Blow It In Seventh
  • See Dickey Pitch. See Dickey Pitch Well. See Dickey's Bullpen Implode.
  • Jerry To Mets Ownership: "Fire Me Now"

Offensive? Possibly. Whatever. John Maine vs Craig Stammen is the matchup tomorrow. Go to Blue And Orange Open Mic Night At River in Hell's Kitchen for a game watch.

Poem by Howard Megdal

Angel Pagan has a career in a day
Inside-the-park homer, starts a triple play
Adds another fine catch as part of his yield
(Why does Gary Matthews ever play center field?!?)
But worn-out Nieve's fastball no longer has life
And in retrospect I should have listened to my wife
Spectacular plays should have provided the clues
This is precisely the type of game that the Mets lose

Star-divide

SB Nation Coverage

* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Federal Baseball Gamethread

Win Probability Added

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Big winners:  Angel Pagan +14.4%, R.A. Rickey +9.2% (as pitcher)
Big losers:  Fernando Nieve -24.4%, Luis Castillo -12.9%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Angel Pagan inside-the-park home run +12.5%
Teh sux0rest play: Cristian Guzman triple -11.8%
Total pitcher WPA: -23.2%
Total batter WPA: -26.8%
GWRBI!: Cristian Guzman

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by KeithsMoustache; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

Num Name # of Posts
1 KeithsMoustache 122
2 Gina 107
3 fxcarden 99
4 Syler 78
5 Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan 71
6 Joshuah 70
7 Gorfax 62
8 Mets Fan 60
9 Michkin 59
10 Brian. 56

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Jerry To Ownership: “Just Fire Me Already”

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 19, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, Ojeda and Carlin are idiots

Fire these guys already, too.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 19, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Ojeda is a good analyst.

Chris Carlin on the other hand, is horrendous. I want Matt Yallof back.

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 19, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlin is good at nothing but being morbidly obese.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 19, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Ojeda closes doors.

Just learned he didn’t hurt his finger in a gardening accident, but rather getting it slammed in a door during the 88 pennant celebration.

by MookieTheCat on May 19, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about

Jerry Manuel to Ownership: “I’m a fucking idiot, just fire me already”

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

We love Dickey jokes here at AA.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 19, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Dick Pole, anyone?

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on May 19, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the game thread, we came up with a few phalic names that would all be great guests in the booth in the coming

Dickey v. Wang game, in a couple of months. Guests included:

Dick Pole
Randy Johnson
Pete LaCock

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 19, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you combined him with Pelfrey you'd get

Licky Dickey

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on May 20, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry is a bonehead and really must be want to be fired...

I didn’t read the game thread and I’m sure it was discussed — why, but, why, do you pinch bunt w/ Cora? Why not leave Dickey in and let him bunt? At least give him the first batter in the 7th!

Other observations:
—Other teams are excellent at fundamental baseball, i.e., moving runners. The Mets are not.
—The Mets hit a couple of hard outs (Francouer’s sac fly, and Tatis’ lineout). Eventually these have to fall in, right? Meanwhile, Bernadina (the newest in a long line of Met killers) hits an excuse me double to start the game winning rally. Go figure…
—Nieve is rapidly becoming Tanyon Sturtze and Scott Proctor. He’ll be out of baseball by next year.
—Manuel is a clown.

That is all.

by northernvatiger on May 19, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

We hit the bunting point in the thread.

At this point, Jerry’s stupidity, stubbornness, and lack of baseball sense is commonplace. It’s just “Jerry being Jerry.”

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 19, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Using a pinchbunter

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pinch hitting Barajas down 2

when you need a base runner and D Wright has the highest OBP?

by David G on May 19, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not playing DWright against a guy he can handle

and waiting till tomorrow to give him a day off.

that’s 7 from 1 game. Not bad.

by David G on May 19, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this was pretty absurd.

Manuel needs a baserunner, someone who won’t make an out. The game cannot be tied with a home run. He’s got Wright (career OBP of .388, ) and Barajas (career OBP of .284). He chooses Barajas. Even if I think a manager is wrong, I can usually at least see what he were thinking when he made the decision. I have absolutely no idea what Jerry was thinking on this one. Not a clue. This is becoming a theme with Manuel.

by EricAColucci on May 20, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

then not pinch hitting for him in 7th with Carter or Wright

 Carter is only hitter on bench but those Mistakes are Minayas

by Sir Tmac on May 20, 2010 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kevin Burkhardt Wants to Win in July Apparently

In response to a tweet about Mejia:

@Guglie_ITALY I do agree. Its time for him to be a starter and hopefully by July he could be back here.

by Bieser's Balk on May 19, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Chris Cotter was a million times better than this schlub

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss him.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 19, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

what in the world makes people think he's ready to start

have they not seen he has no command of his change up/slider? What two pitch pitchers do they see succeeding in the bigs?

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 19, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hate to use this term, but Burkhardt comes off as an apologist

He defends every single move this team makes to the death

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just find it hilarious that we can add Burkhardt

to the growing list of media members who were so vehement about bringing Mejia up 6 weeks ago.

I want to make smart decisions now. Not 6 weeks ago. That’s my stance.

by Bieser's Balk on May 19, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't remember Bobby Parnell.

Their shortsightedness is almost stunning.

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 19, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

last yr we had Parnell and Stokes 2 100 mile an hr flame flowers

What garbage did we get dor Stokes 11mil upfront to pay other teams garbage and what is Parnel throwing now after Manuel 94 95 tops and a 4 plus ERA

by Sir Tmac on May 20, 2010 12:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Parnell was never much

to begin with. I referenced him because the Mets are gonna try to stretch Mejia and stick him in the Met starting rotation this year. What they should do is let him take his time in AA/AAA as he works on his pitches. By doing that, they’d be benefiting short and long term.

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 20, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stokes is a terrible pitcher

Just because you throw hard doesn’t mean you’re good

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 20, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Socks never threw 100 MPH, either.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 20, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shortsightedness is the management's trademark.

Mejia didn’t pitch well in AA or the Arizona Fall League. He got the promotion from a few spring training innings. See also: Relying on Omir Santos after a few at-bats (and trading Ramon Castro), putting Livan Hernandez in the starting rotation, and, most ridiculous of all, paying Oliver Perez $36 million after posting 3.56 and 4.22 ERAs in ‘07 and ’08 (even though he’d only been under a 5 ERA one other time, and his peripherals were not good at any point of his career). Seeing only what he wants to see and using small sample sizes is what Omar Minaya does for a living.

by EricAColucci on May 20, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

In the time it took me to read this...

I had about 100 bad flashbacks, back to Kevin McReynolds and before. This seems to be a constant theme. Maybe we should call Omar Dr. n (as in, n is too small for a statistically significant determination).

by MookieTheCat on May 20, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is an apologist.

From bashing Beltran in January, to backing Manuel’s quest to have Mejia in the pen, to tossing Jerry softball questions, he certainly comes off as an apologist.

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 20, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I would include his fastball in that discussion, as well.

by EricAColucci on May 19, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it, but...

With the powerhouse Yanks/Phils due up, the season might as well be over by next week, unless we can pull out a few miracles.

by nmigliore on May 19, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping we win the Yankee series

Just to achieve some vengeance for what they did to us at Citi last year

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope that was intended

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 19, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

All Dickey jokes are intended.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 19, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The good news is that with those losses ...

Manuel and maybe Omar will be gone too.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on May 20, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 20, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are we going to get anyone better?

That’s what scares me. The devil u know type of thing.

by Mike Clemente on May 20, 2010 3:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think there's any way we can do worse than Jerry

Omar, I don’t know.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 20, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Had a good record with a meh, decent team.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 20, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

? I'd say the d-backs were much better than decent to meh

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 20, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and...

Fernando Nieve stinks. Forget moving taking him out of high-leverage spots, get him off the roster. Sure he can throw mid-90s, but that doesn’t mean jack shit if you can’t control or miss bats, unless you plan on living on a lucky BABIP, which is what Nieve did the first 4-5 weeks of the season.

by nmigliore on May 19, 2010 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

His career numbers are fairly similar to his peripherals this year. I think over-use is a factor, but only to a certain degree.

by nmigliore on May 19, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah im not saying he's an ace reliever

but he’s not awful, he’s just going to keep getting worse from overuse though.

by KeithsMoustache on May 19, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

why did he chabge relievers for 8th with game lost

It would of had perfect shot to work Ollie and save what’s left of the bullpen

by Sir Tmac on May 20, 2010 12:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jerry's decisions

defy logic.

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 20, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

With all the Dickey jokes...

Doesn’t “Nieve” mean “snow” in Spanish? There has to be a joke in here somewhere.

by MookieTheCat on May 19, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

5-13 so far in May...

Out of the 18 games, Mets are 5-10 in 1 and 2 run games (3-6 in 1 run games; 2-4 in 2 run games). You have to think with decent managing, Mets should be closer to .500 at least. Jerry manages just well enough to lose.

by northernvatiger on May 19, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the bigger problem is the hitting

Here’s some May lines:

Jason Bay: .290/.352/.371
David Wright: .250/.315/.500
Jose Reyes: .192/.224/.247
Jeff Francoeur: .111/.153/.167
Luis Castillo: .277/.358/.319

I think May has pretty simple, actually. The Mets have not hit. Two of their regulars (Reyes and Frenchy) have been downright atrocious. Manuel does some inexplicable things sometimes, but until the hitters hit, the Mets aren’t going to win very many games.

Also, key stat:

Mets in May: .246/.306/.377
Mets Opponents in May: .287/.357/.476

Not only have the Mets hit poorly, they have pitched poorly. It’s just bad performance all around. Their run differential for the month puts them at between 5 and 6 wins. I don’t see anything too strange about it, other than that the team hasn’t played well.

by sjohnson125 on May 19, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying nearly everyone sucks (at least at the moment)?

Hmmmmmm. I wish there was someone to manage, or generally manage, these people to perform better. But I don’t know who that would be.

by MookieTheCat on May 19, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

or to bring in some people who don't suck you mean?

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 19, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would fall under generally manage...

Or possibly here, under manage, it’s kinda hard to tell recently.

by MookieTheCat on May 19, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that the hitting has been awful

I just don’t buy the argument that a manager and coaches have no impact on player performance, as is implied all the time on here. A little psychology can go a long way.

by MookieTheCat on May 19, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i agree

and when an entire team is under performing and making boneheaded mistakes eventually I think blame has to fall on the coaching staff.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 19, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean it's not like one player is being overly aggressive at the plate

or on the base paths, all of them are.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 19, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

And players who are coached badly will have poor stats. I mean, what is 100 points in batting average over a month, 7 or 8 hits? Just the mandate to be hyper-aggressive, or take too many first pitches, or [insert other beef here] can lead to a decline of that many hits, as well as lower walks etc. Although ballplayers are generally stoic about such things, and are expected to play their hardest for their pay, not everyone has the semi-psychotic self-motivation of Pete Rose. Some guys need a little help, and a “well, you tried your best” attitude often doesn’t do this. There are some managers and coaches that consistently cause their players to perform above their level, and this isn’t an accident.

by MookieTheCat on May 19, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with talking about psychological issues

is that it’s not possible to know what’s going on inside a player’s head. So it’s pretty tough to say that this or that guy is “mentally off” and even harder to say what would get him back on track. I also think that psychological issues are overstated. Consider Angel Pagan. Last year the talk was that he had a low baseball IQ or that he was mentally lazy because he made some baserunning mistakes and a few throws to the wrong base. This year everyone is saying the opposite. Suddenly he’s “grown up” as a baseball player. But what exactly happened? Did he really smarten up all of the sudden, or did we just blow a small sample size of “dumbness” out of proportion?

Essentially, talent and chance are by far the biggest factors in performance. That’s why, over large sample sizes, sound statistics stay pretty consistent through a player’s career.

by EricAColucci on May 19, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not disagreeing...

Just noting that maybe we’re talking apples and oranges (pears?). I used to work at a really high stress job in finance. It was the kind of job where you either were good, or you weren’t. Period. But among those who were good were strong gradations in how motivated you were, and this was often a factor of who you working for. Smart, savvy bosses created motivated teams. Before I start sounding too much like a motivational speaker, the point is effort and frustration often begin at the top. So do things like making folks come in for extra batting practice when necessary. Just think of the level of frustration here. If all you’ve done your adult life is play baseball, do you think you might not say “what is this guy doing?” followed by demotivation? In a game where seemingly minor things can manifest in much larger ways, it seems to me that a little “WTF?” can go a long way.

by MookieTheCat on May 20, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds reasonable enough.

I think the question of how much mental factors affect athletes will be debated until the end of time.

by EricAColucci on May 20, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

one question though

who exactly is saying this?

This year everyone is saying the opposite. Suddenly he’s "grown up" as a baseball player.

Just curious.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on May 20, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mostly from the SNY broadcasters.

It seems like every time he throws to the right base or hits the cutoff man or runs the bases well, one of them says something along the lines of: “That’s a heads-up play that you wouldn’t have seen from Pagan last year.” There’s definitely a feeling of “Pagan is smart now!”

by EricAColucci on May 20, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

Bobby O and that Fat One said exactly this about 10 times after the game tonight.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 20, 2010 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good.

Then we’ll all realize exactly why Jerry sucks in 2012.

by MookieTheCat on May 20, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

There has to be something deflating

With watching your manager throw games away every single day. You can see it in their faces when he makes a terrible decision, and they loyally follow through.

by Joshuah on May 20, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's that, too.

Excellent point re the lack of hitting. This team can’t hit its way out of a wet paper bag.

by northernvatiger on May 19, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes it is

In Baseball if you take an 0for 3games you sit a game for a full day off maybe 4 or 5 at the most Frenchys is over a month and he has at least pinch hit every day a rest after a week can cure it and change momentum after a month its a habit

by Sir Tmac on May 20, 2010 12:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Castillos line is probably what we should expect

Frenchy shouldn’t be a regular, and good lord at Bay and Reyes.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 19, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless the Mets pulled another Putz situation with Bay,

Bay is due to have some more HRs. He’s not going to maintain a 2% HR/FB rate forever

As for Jose… I just don’t know at this point

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone want to venture any predictions for the Yankees and Phillies series?

I’m thinking 2-4 at best. Of course, we could hope for 0-6 if it means Jerry will be gone.

by northernvatiger on May 19, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

we'll go 5-1

Jerry and Omar will get extensions

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 19, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

With vests!

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, we could have some fun coming up with the things that guarantee the option years.

Minaya’s will vest if he signs at least 15 players that “have an edge to them.”

Jerry’s will vest if either: A) One of his relievers appears in 100 or more games or B) He wastes at least 50 bench players by making them pinch-bunt.

by EricAColucci on May 20, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe have a vest day at the park?

First 5000 fans get an option to pitch the 6th or 7th at an upcoming game. If any fan drops the other side 1-2-3, he gets a 3 year, $36 million contract.

by MookieTheCat on May 20, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, genius.

I envision Minaya getting on the PA system and yelling "Look under your seats. Vests for everyone! YOU get a vesting option, and YOU get a vesting option…!

by EricAColucci on May 20, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I just had an Omar moment based on the combination of the name and yelling.

I now picture him as Omar Little, and every time he’s about to make a deal I envision some little kid running through the winter meetings yelling “Omar’s coming, Omar’s coming” as the other GMs run inside and throw crack and money out the window. Except this time Omar is throwing money into the windows. It must be getting late.

by MookieTheCat on May 20, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Omar? Vest?

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 20, 2010 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

3-3

But I’m an optimist at heart

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on May 19, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That game was rad

Inside the park home run
Triple play
Bullpen Ollie’s inaugural BB
Fat Livan
A knuckleballer named Dickey
The now-famous pinch bunt maneuver

I dunno. I kind of loved it.

by Pack Bringley on May 19, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

As was mentioned to me the other day,

right now it hurts, but we’ll look back at it all in a few years and laugh.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 19, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

entertaining game to watch. I think Ed Norton said it best in Fight Club:

“And then, something happened. I let go. Lost in oblivion. Dark and silent and complete. I found freedom. Losing all hope was freedom”

I’ve lost all hope for this team, and in that I’m free to enjoy their games again. I have no expectations, so if they lose a game but have an inside the parker and a triple play, I count that as a win. This game entertained me. I was disappointed in the outcome, but the more we lose the closer we get to inevitable change at the top, and then I can start to hope again.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on May 19, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

If we can’t win, let’s at least have games like this and the 20 inning affair.

by EricAColucci on May 20, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

... except for the final score

which tends to be problematic

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on May 20, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You won the thread.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 19, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice!

I have to give credit to Vince Vaughn in Wedding Crashers for the ’just the tip" reference.

by David G on May 20, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT

but remember when no one could figure out why the hell Arizona got involved in the Granderson deal and why they gave up Scherzer for guys like Kennedy and Jackson? Well Jackson still sucks but it looks like they definitely knew something about Scherzer and Kennedy no one else did.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 20, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

That's weird with Scherzer.

His K/9 has dropped from 9 last year to 5 this year and he’s lost almost 2 MPH off his fastball. Is he injured?

There may be sunny days ahead.

by Brian. on May 20, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

that would be my guess

or something’s wrong with him. Detroit is like the dumping grounds for damaged goods. we should have tried to flip putz to them.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on May 20, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

so a friend of mine lives out in LA

and is a die hard angels fan. all season long we’ve been talking about how much we both hate GJM, and tonight i get a text saying “why did the mets pinch hit for a bunt?”

by cntrlalt on May 20, 2010 3:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Jerryball: The Art of Giving Away a Game

has to be published in book form.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on May 20, 2010 5:46 AM EDT reply actions  

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