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Jerryball: The Art Of Giving Away A Game
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I'm sure there's plenty of Jerry strategy that I overlooked. What else belongs in Jerryball: The Art of Giving Away A Game?
On Roster Management
-Veteran presence counts just as much as on-the-field results. It is imperative that every team have a veteran on the roster, whose designated role is to be the veteran on the roster.
-When a young, unpolished rookie blows away a bunch of Minor Leaguers in Spring Training, it's best to "force" the GM into bringing him up onto the Major League roster, and then using him in a haphazard manner, more or less like a Rule 5 Draft pick. Be very adamant that the player is integral to the team, though, when questioned.
-The best way to foster a good player-manager relationship is to accuse your players of dogging it and lying; throw them under the bus. They'll respond by trying their hardest to prove you wrong, and will end up respecting you once they realize the psychological games were intended to motivate them.
-Certain players "just get it", while others don't. The players who "just get it" do so because of various reasons, be it familial lineage, passion for the game, a "never-say-never", among others. These players are the types of players that winning ballclubs are built around.
-If the General Manager trades for a player, there's obviously a reason the GM went out and did so. Use that player as often as possible, to figure out why the GM went out and obtained his contract.
On Line-Up Construction
-The second baseman must bat second. Likewise, the first baseman must always bat fourth.
-Nobody likes sissies. When players try to weasel out of playing because of "medical concerns", they're obviously dogging it. Players who behave like this don't deserve to wear the uniform, and need to be benched.
-Go with your gut, when all else fails. That is not gas: The human digestive system has mystical prognosticating powers; listen to it.
-Don't bat your best hitter third, because the clean-up hitter needs protection. Likewise, don't bat your leadoff hitter first, because he might be needed elsewhere in the lineup.
-The best way for a marginal player to work out of slumps is by giving them playing time. The more, the better; they'll eventually sort things out.
-When more than one player are competing for the same spot, give everybody a fair chance to win that job. In a few limited at bats, whoever does better during that time span is obviously the better player. Have that person get the majority of playing time; limit the playing time of the other players- they're obviously not as good.
-The best time to rest a player is after he has a big game. He's obviously going to be tired, so let him have some time off.
On In-Game Management
Bunting
-Moving the runner over is key. When there is a man on, and less than two outs, advance the runner with a bunt, even if that batter is your number three hitter.
-It is always best to play it safe: When he's due up at bat, remove the pitcher for a pinch hitter, one so that pinch hitter can bunt, instead of the pitcher.
-When the bunt is on, and the pitcher is having trouble throwing strikes, don't give up hope. Eventually, he's going to throw a strike, and when he does, lay that bunt down.
Player Substitutions
-In late innings, remove your outfielders in place of bench players, even if those bench players aren't the greatest with the glove. They need some playing time, too.
-When pinch hitting, talent, performance on the season, and career platoon splits are to be ignored in favor handedness and the amount of pages in the player’s “Pinch Hitting Binder”. Having a reputation of being a good pinch hitter is more important than actually being a good pinch hitter at the time.
-When it's late in the game, or in extra innings, make sure that your emergency catcher stays in the game at all costs. Remove your all-around best player and team leader in favor for him when at all possible.
-Use as many double switches, pinch hitters, and defensive substitutions as possible, in order to confuse and demoralize the opposition. If this is a National League game, do this even more often than in the American League.
-Players who are on the bench are there for specific reasons. Every once and a while, though, give them the opportunity to prove themselves- call them up to pinch hit in a high-leverage situation without giving them much warning. If they pull through, they deserve more playing time. If they don't, bench them some more, until they learn their lesson.
On Bullpen Management
-Starting pitchers should throw no more than 100 pitches or so per start, no matter the score or inning. This prevents the pitcher's arm from falling off from overuse, and lets the relievers get their fair share of work. Late in the game, a wild card journeyman reliever is a better bet than your proven starter.
-In order to make sure that everyone stays loose, play it safe, and have relievers warm up and throw pitches even when their services are not yet needed. This strategy is especially useful in extra inning games- the more pitches they throw warming up, the more ready they'll be.
-Practice makes perfect. Therefore, the more you use a reliever, the more effective they'll be in future games.
-Closers must only be used in save situations. When you're in a situation where you need a definite out, bring in someone other than your best reliever. This is because closers can only throw three outs worth of pitches.
-If you're a reliever, you can and will pitch to both righties and lefties. "Splits" are false hustle, and really just signify that a player is trying to shirk out of working. That said, however, lefties must always pitch to lefties. Righties must always pitch to righties. Do not ever allow a match-up where the batter has the advantage.
-When your mop-up man pitches an 8-pitch scoreless eighth, you must take him out of the game so that your most overrated and overworked reliever can pitch a near-meaningless ninth.
On Dealing With The Media
-Schmooze with reporters, beat writers, and talk show hosts whenever possible. Make sure to provide good quotes/sound bites for them, so you get on their good sides, and they become less apt to question your managerial pedigree, qualifications, and decisions.
-Stroke the reporters' egos. Tell them that their question "is a good question", regardless if it is or not. This will make them less apt to question your managerial pedigree, qualifications, and decisions.
-Make sure to pause every few moments, to inwardly ponder the question and the multitude of possible decisions. Because it's rude to simply sit there in silence, make sure that you fill in the gaps between your stream of consciousness with "uhs", "ahs", and similar grunts.
-When things get too serious, no matter the issue, laugh and make levity of the situation; cooler heads will always prevail.
On Inter-Organizational Relations
-When your job is on the hot-seat, winning road games in Southern Californian is a ticket to the unemployment line. It's best to avoid wins in these situations.
-Never take off your shirt, and challenge Minor League players to fights. Let somebody else do that.
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...and makes me want to cry.
It’s a primer on how not to manage, written by our manager.
Anyone have Earl Weaver’s telephone number?
Or Miller Huggins’?
Pinch Hitting
When choosing a pinch hitter, talent, actual performance on the season, and career platoon splits are to be discarded in favor of handedness and the amount of pages in the player’s “Pinch Hitting Binder”.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
A manual on being Manuel
by Blame-everyone-else on May 31, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Um
“Lefty, Righty, Lefty” uber alles?
Also, was “making sure everybody stays lose” an intentional typo? I think I like it better that way.
On Prospects
Take a projected starting pitcher who is still at least 1-2 years away from being ready for the majors. If he pitches well in spring training against other team’s prospects, declare him ready to pitch in the majors — as an 8th inning setup man. When the season stats, use him like he’s a Rule V player that you’re forced to keep on the roster. When the front office meets with you and tells you he should go back to the minors, pretend the meeting never happened.
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
On Player Substitutions
Make sure your emergency 3rd string catcher stays in the game at all costs — even if it means taking out your best all around player and team leader.
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
great
but i think it’d be better if you left the stupidity more implicit
Updated up to this point (including spelling errors! D'oh!).
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 30, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
fantastic
one addendum, “The closer can pitch 3 outs maximum.”
by KeithsMoustache on May 30, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
frankie's come in in the 8th a couple times and its only may
"No disrespect to the batter," Figueroa said, "but tacos are good."
by inventor frank on Jun 2, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
On Starting Pitchers
Starting Pitchers can only go a strict maximum of 100 pitches into a game, no matter the score or the inning. This serves two purposes: 1)so that your starter’s arm doesn’t magically fall off and turn into pixie dust and 2)so that you can allow your mediocre bullpen pitchers to get the most amount of innings possible. Because your 32 year old rookie Japanese reliever or 39 year old journeyman with the 14:10 K:BB ratio in 32 innings in 2009 is definitely a better option than your ace starter.
by Steve Schreiber on May 30, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
More on talking to the media
Be sure to moan and groan upon hearing each and every question asked by reporters. This makes it seem that you’re very intellectual and contemplative. When you don’t have a BS answer to give to the reporters, tell them “That’s a good question.” That will pump up their egos and prompt them to write good things about you the next day.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
And make sure to repeat
“That’s a good question” over and over with a number of variations until you can come up with something that either sounds believable or will confuse them.
by Steve Schreiber on May 31, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
On position battles
If two players are fighting for one spot in the lineup, use a week of games to decide who wins the job. Give each player 3 starts, and give the starting spot to the player with the highest batting average over that span. This will also appease statistical people.
by T Pac on May 31, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
In general, it is important to use
as many pitching changes and double switches as possible so that your roster is depleted by the 9th inning. Remember, this is the National League — you have to show people you know how to manage.
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
Use double switches
even when you bring in a worse defensive player, because you need to make sure people know you’re doing work.
Refuse to use a guy on your bench for 2 weeks and then use him in a high leverage situation, this goes with bench bats.
And the reverse with relievers. After calling up a guy (who logically be your worst reliever ) use him right away to see him in a pressure situation: my favorite was when he brought in that bum a year or two ago against the Phillies when the bases were loaded and he promptly walked in the winning run.
Oh and almost always refuse to get out in between an umpire and an arguing player until the player has already been tossed.
What else am I forgetting? I am more upset with him not complaining about calls because when he was Willie’s bench coach he seemed to be the only guy on the bench willing to call out an ump for being worthless.
Now he’s got the top job he’s too good for it.
"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-
bench players
If you have a hot hitter don’t use him to fill in for slumping player at least once a week {aka Chris Carter} so you can use a bat that is hot 3 weeks later in high leverage situation and say he was the hottest hitter on the team
by Sir Tmac on May 31, 2010 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
When a good hitter from AAA is promoted
Give him one chance to get a hit in a big situation. If he fails, he’s not one of “your guys.” If he succeeds, give him 2-3 starts. If he doesn’t hit at least .800 in those starts, he is also not one of your guys. Relegate him to forgotten status. You will forget his name, so give him a clever nickname like “animal” or “Nick Evans.”
However, if a bench player has a dad who you have heard of, then he has a “championship pedigree” and he should be given 399 at bats, all with the game on the line before you can really tell what kind of player he is.
“Don’t bat your best hitter 3rd, bat him 5th after a rookie and a guy going through a God awful slump”
“Overvalue replacement players/2nd basemen”
“Don’t use Chris Carter”
“Rely on the veterans until they prove they can do literally nothing for their team”
“Waste God given talent on mop up role, the same role accounted to your $12M/yr starter that could not get out of the fourth inning”
“Laugh and make jokes about serious game management issues in press conferences to keep it ’gangsta”
This makes me want to hit my head against the wall
How many losses this year can be fairly attributed to these rules? I know the “excessively warm up the closer rule” probably led to one extra inning in the marathon game, but we still pulled it out so it didn’t cause a loss.
Guessing, I’d say Jerry’s antics have probably cost 2-4 games, which if he were a player, would be a monetary value of around -$10 million (right?), in only two months.
amazing
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
oh boy
this is funny. FO needs to get this clown gangsta outta here
I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
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Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on May 31, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hey what is Joe West the ump
doing there?
I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
I was playing some wiffle ball yesterday
and I kept switching between batting lefty and righty after each pitch and my brother, who has been following baseball and the Mets for all of two months, shouted, “If you keep switching like that then you’ll have a Jerryball lineup!” His first two months of watching baseball have been focused on how screwed up Manuel is and now I’m worried that he’ll have a warped view of the sport for the rest of his life.
the quintessential american backyard game wiffle ball
I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Let me be devil's advocate
….just a little bit.
1) Jerry’s Bullpen management is a direct result of Omar’s starting pitcher mismangement.
2) The manager should have no influence on roster management, and the fact that Jerry does shows that Minaya is clearly the biggest pussy GM in baseball.
Though as far as everything else is concerned. You’re absolutely right. Does anyone know if the Wilpon’s have internet access?
Or, it indicates that Jeff is running the show
The organization has been notorious since Jeff got involved for having a fucked up chain of command – if you make friends with Jeff you can go around Omar. This was why Bernazard was allowed the run of things, it’s why Omar couldn’t keep control of the Willie situation. And now it seems to be why Jennry is in the bullpen. Jerry seems to be holding off the whole front office to keep Jenrry up. What does that tell us?
i believe they have dial-up
but Jeffy is always on the line with his friends.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on May 31, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagree on #1
we can all point to plenty of examples when the starting pitcher was pulled for no apparent reason, even friday and sunday night most recently. The bullpen is a direct result of Jerry’s stupidity, he’s had plenty of pitching performances, not to mention two long men he’s horribly misused to avoid using the bp to the extent he has.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Yeah, I'll go one further...
Even if Bill James was managing the Mets, we’d still be sub .500 on the year. In case you haven’t noticed, our roster sucks. For starters, we have a 24 man roster, plus Oliver Perez.
I’m surprised no one has yet found a way to blame Jerry for Oliver Perez. Maybe if his “bullpen management” was better, Ollie would be an All Star instead of the second coming of Dontrelle Willis?
If everyone hates Jerry so much, keep in mind that Omar is responsible for Jerry’s hiring and firing.
And Omar also is responsible for acquiring and maintaining perennial AA favorite Francoeur.
So until Omar is shown the door, it’s mind boggling to me how anyone can bitch about the manager in good faith.
If the Mets were a restaurant, Omar has bought rancid pork, rotten broccoli, and tainted clams, and Jerry is the chef.
So yeah, we need to fire the chef because the food is bad.
That logic is faulty, since there's been various instances in which Jerry's management of the team,
be it bullpen management, or bunting, or whatever else, directly influenced the win-loss record in a negative manner. The logic
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 31, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That logic is faulty, since there's been various instances in which Jerry's management of the team,
be it bullpen management, or bunting, or whatever else, directly influenced the win-loss record in a negative manner. The logic insulates any “underling” from accountability, in any situation.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 31, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, everyone here loves Omar Minaya
Good work, once again.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, look at ESPN fantasy's Ike Davis update
Davis, who blasted a home run Saturday, his first in 12 days, is not in the starting lineup against Randy Wolf Sunday.
Spin: Manager Jerry Manuel is choosing this opportunity, with the Mets facing a tough lefty, to give Davis a day off and Fernando Tatis a start. The reasoning is somewhat flawed as Davis started Saturday against Manny Parra and blasted a home run in the loss, so maybe it is solely just a way to get Davis a day off.
If only.
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
lol, that line could be used in everything written about Jerry's managing
“The reasoning is somewhat flawed…”
by SuperT on May 31, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You HAVE TO get this published a la the Amazin Avenue Annual
By the way,
Left-handed pitchers must always pitch to left-handed batters, even when the left hander has extreme reverse splits over a career spanning a decade plus. You must not EVER allow a like-handed matchup ever, even if it means that all of your relievers approach record appearances.
The one exception to this rule applies when giving up the game is absolutely crucial. Sometimes the loss of an entire season can rest with losing one game, in which case, you allow Pedro Feliciano to pitch to Matt Diaz, whose sole use in baseball is crushing lefties.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
The best time to rest an everyday player
is the day after he has a monster game. Reward him by benching him.
No wonder Frenchy always plays
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on May 31, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
then he will be off tonight
Seeing he had his first monster game since April
by Sir Tmac on May 31, 2010 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this is GOLD, great job BDMF/here's some more:
No matter how bad a player is, he plays for 12 consecutive starts…and when he starts to hit for two days he is benched for a rookie.
my favorites: take a lead-off hitter and insist on batting him third when he’s clearly (so far) more comfortable in leading off.
also—
play a worthless player everyday for the early part of the season instead of playing an obviously far superior player in center field just because your GM traded for him…
ah well, tis the life of following Orange and Bue, Black, White and…whatever colors this team decides to wear next!
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
This is awesome
I missed the part about 2nd basemen must always bat 2nd.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Amazingly, Pagan batted second.
We need a corollary to the rule!
well we lost the game
so i expect everything back to normal Friday
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I had to stop reading this
Overwhelmed by cringe factor
by TDJ on May 31, 2010 10:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well done, sir
The back cover would read “Information and Intelligence are false hustle”
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Rec'd, even though this invalidates something I was writing.
Yours does have a better title than mine, though.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 31, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
The great thing about this post
is that everyone can take their own largest complaints about Jerry and put them into educational form.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
Bullpens are like little brothers
Ment to be abused.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on May 31, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
And always, always, ALWAYS
BUNT when a POSITION player is pitching and can’t throw strikes.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on May 31, 2010 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Alright, updated to this point!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 31, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
WOW
BDMF, this is one of the best columns I’ve read on SBN, ever. Nothing like a ton of levity to ease the pain of an 18-6 drubbing. Brilliantly done.
formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan
::siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh:: if only Omar and Jerry reads and gets this from the team's fans
At least we aren’t as beat up as Cubs, Royals and Pirates fans….thanks for posting this BDMF and everyone else who commented this helps ease the pains.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Eh.
At least those teams (with the exception of the Cubs, but they’re the Cubs, so…) have excuses as to why they’re so crappy. Us, it shouldn’t be.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Fans of those teams don't get dates.
We get dates who take us all the way to the altar before kicking us in the parts.
Much, much worse.
A summary of Jerry in a non-scientific way
Jerry Manuel was hired two years ago because Willie Randolph had to go. Two years later, the most positive thing that can be said about Jerry Manuel as a manager is that he is not Willie Randolph.
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
Same here.
Willie > Jerry
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 2, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I got really tired of Willie’s “I’m sticking with my guys” thing every time Mota and Schoeneweis blew games down the stretch or the “You’ve got to tip your cap” line. But at the same time, I can’t even watch a Manuel post game conference any more because I know it’ll end up with Manuel making a bad joke and laughing in order to distract the inept beat writers.
Let’s just say that neither Manuel or Randolph is fit to manage a Burger King, let alone a Major League Baseball team.
by Steve Schreiber on Jun 2, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
as another person commented earlier somewhere here..
how about Ken Oberkfell as manager?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
the organization sees him more as a AAAA-type manager
"No disrespect to the batter," Figueroa said, "but tacos are good."
by inventor frank on Jun 2, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He keeps doing well
They will send him to AA, that will teach him.
They'll not just send him to AA,
they’ll send him down to be the bench coach.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jun 2, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Added GenJackRipper's Jerryball moments from the game thread today.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 5, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
Almost my exact thoughts after it happened.
Except a “who shouldn’t even be a mop-up man” was in there somewhere.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
I know.
I was looking at everything that was compiled, and it’s surprisingly long. Worrisome.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 20, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
For a second there, I was afraid I've been spelling it incorrectly for the past bunch of years.
That would’ve been a massive mindfuck.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions

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