Yuck Applesauce - Mets blown out in SD, Maine to throw, Pagan's WAR, Strasburg's debut set
by Joe Budd on Jun 1, 2010 7:48 AM EDT
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At least most Met fans were protected from watching last night's debacle by sleep.
Meet the Mets
The Mets managed to further dash our hopes of a Bob Melvin administration. Nor does the team have the testicular fortitude to listen to their own players and get rid of Oliver Perez.
Section 518 pleads for Jesus Feliciano.
Some minor league video to pass along. Daniel Murphy hits an opposite field shot for his first HR as a Bison. And Wilmer Flores shoots a single to right.
John Maine is starting his rehab by throwing in a side session today.
Mark Simon explains Angel Pagan's high WAR on EspnNewYork. He then followed up that post by listing all the Met moments on Seinfeld.
Patrick Flood talks to himself about Alex Cora and the Coen brothers.
Around MLB
Some guy named Roy Halladay for some NL East team threw a good game or something. The Marlins are trying to make some extra dough off the feat by selling the mounds of unused tickets.
The Phillies have dropped to second place in the NL East.
Stephen Strasburg's MLB debut has been set for June 8th.
Nelson Figueroa has been DFA'd by Philadelphia to make room for Brad Lidge.
Jorge Sosa has gotten another chance, this time with Florida.
The Diamondbacks find a way to lose that is quite Met-like.
Red Reporter has the greatest headline of all time.
Kendry Morales broke his leg while celebrating his walk-off grand slam. That also seems quite Met-like, except for the game-winning grand slam.
The Bridgeport Bluefish have signed Willy Mo Pena.
In the least shocking news of the day, the Giants have signed Pat Burrell.
Roberto Alomar wants to be in the Toronto front office.
"Knuckle Princess" Eri Yoshida made her professional debut this weekend, getting an RBI single and allowing a couple runs off her side arm knuckleball.
Outside of MLB
Met Fan Fiction talks Pat Sajak.
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not quite as bad as having
Oliver Perez eating up roster space on any active baseball team (amateur or pro)
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Well at least...
Perez has been demoted to Mop (up) Boy.
Got my Strasburg ticket
Of course I paid twice the face value. Hell, maybe even more. The Nats bungled this introduction of Strasburg along with ticket sales. They make the formal announcement on Memorial Day evening???? Stupid. Be that as it may; I’ll be there.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions
It's now complely sold out now
I don’t think they’ve had a sell-out since the day the park opened.
I guess there’s always Stub Hub.
With fees and everything via Stub Hub, I paid: $224 (SEC 116, row PP, aisle seat) for what normally would cost $50-60
FAIL purchase. But I didn’t want to see a pitcher from the outfield.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I've heard of StubHub cancelling their ridiculous fees if you call and protest them.
Granted, this was just for a NY Rangers regular season game, but it’s worth a shot. Ya never now.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
whereas most other Nats games have tickets for less than $10
Wow.
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 1, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Makes me wonder:
Does an organization have the right to overcharge individual games? For instance, can the Nats charge higher prices each time Strasburg pitches?
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
In a sense they already do
Certain games against certain teams are priced higher. Of course, those fees are set ahead of the season. I don’t know about changing a ticket price in mid-season. I doubt they’ve ever raised prices for individual games mid-season, and they’d probably get a lot of bad pr out of the deal. But I don’t think that it would technically be prohibited.
Thanks for the info.
Are you going to be attending the SB Nation event in DC next Monday?
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
When you look at the home page; here on AA or at Federal Baseball
Scroll down the right hand side of the page and you’ll see an advertisement w/a beer mug. That ad turns into an RSVP invite for SB Nation at the Iron Horse on 7th St. in the District. 6:00pm to 8:00pm.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
In case the directions I provided aren't good enough.
Here’s the link.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll be there.
I “got to” coordinate though: Mets Cap / Nats T-shirt OR Nats Cap / Mets T-Shirt. Decisions, decisions.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Gone a bit too far here, huh? ;-)
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
For the record
The shirt is more of a commitment than the hat. If the Mets are your team, I’d go with the Washington hat and Met shirt. . . . but that’s just me, and I don’t own any Nats shirts.
If I'm not mistaken, the past two opening days have been sell outs.
Stub Hub is a rip-off, but who am I to gripe? Wouldn’t do any good.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Stub Hub
I’ve always gotten tickets for less than face value, but then again I usually use it for games that aren’t sell-outs.
Not sure about the Nats’ opening day games in 2009 and 2010, but now that I think about it, I believe they sold out the series against the Red Sox last year where approximately 80% of the crowd were Sox fans.
I've had past success w/Stub Hub...So like I said; "I shouldn't gripe."
This years opening day game against the Phillies felt more like a Phillies home opener. I’m going to check to see if it was a sellout.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Official capacity of Nats ballpark: 41,222
Opening day vs. Philadelphia, April 5th, 2010: 41,290. Source ESPN and MLB.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
they sold out opening day
most likely b/c it was the Phillies and Obama was throwing out the first pitch. I went to game 2 and the place was empty.
2009 Did Not Happen
Obama was integral
Especially donning White Sox attire.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
"Knuckle Princess"?
Eeeew.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 1, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions
Of Course Jerry wasn't close to being fired he goes to Jeff to get what he wants all the time
Starting with Willie being fired when Willie was a lot better manager without a bull pen
Kendry's leg
I have always worried about this, especially during the big celebration after winning the division or something. I was always surprised guys didn’t get injured and then miss the playoffs
Figgy should be here instead of Ollie
but he really wasn’t that impressive most of his outings. AZ needs relievers worse than us, I hope he finds a place to pitch
Dearest Mets:
Excise Perez like an inflamed cyst, then step on him with workboots and hand Scott Boras a mop.
Merci.
Put a boot on his neck like our current administration is with BP.
Yeah right.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Thinking about Angel Pagan's good start to the season depresses me.
If only because I am convinced that, if Beltran returns this year, the Mets will end up with gimpy Beltran in center and Frenchy in right with Pagan on the bench.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 1, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
Not even the Mets would be that stupid
Oh wait — they would be that stupid. Heck, they might put Francoeur at third and bench Wright. Carry on.
And GMjr in rf
cause with Beltrans gimpy legs they’ll need the superior defender.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
at the very least platoon him
As bad as Frenchy is, he does hit lefties significantly better than pagan. .342 wOBA against lefties versus Pagan’s .304. Pagan’s glove makes that up, but you can always use him in RF against righties, to spell Beltran, as a late inning glove replacement for Carlos (if he is gimpy, plus he’ll need rest) and Frenchy, and as yet another lefty bat off the bench. He’d essentially be a regular anyway at that rate.
Frenchy’s wRC+ against lefties is 117+, and nothing about his play in right suggests to me he is worse than average, a few seasons of slight negativosity on UZR be damned. Keeps everyone pitching in and not getting stale. Frenchy has his uses. Soaking up 3/4 of his at-bats against righties isn’t one of them.
Fantastic article
about where to use Perez. A player said I guess we hope for another 20 inning game and still wait to see if a position players sinker isn’t biting….hilarious.
Double Yuck
According to Adam Rubin’s ESPN chat that’s going on right now, Cora himself said yesterday that his 2011 option vests with 80 appearances, not 80 starts.
Weird
Cot’s has it down that it vests with 80 starts. Let’s hope that Alex is just confused.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 1, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It wouldnt surprise me if Cora figured he could talk Minaya into changing it from starts to appearances
By the way, here’s Rubin’s answer:
Adam Rubin (12:22 PM)
I asked Alex yesterday, and he confirmed to me it’s 80 appearances for the contract to vest for 2011 — not 80 starts. And that’s exactly how the Associated Press carried the terms of the contract originally when he signed it.
by Bieser's Balk on Jun 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh frak.
That virtually assures that, barring catastrauphic injury, his option vests.
Omar gets another point in The Contest.
by SoCal Metfan on Jun 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I still can't find any prior article that says "80 appearances" instead of "80 starts."
Specifically, all the articles I came across from the time of the signing say “about 80 starts.”
Anyway, I’m still holding out for Cora to be confused. Not that I will be surprised if it really is “80 appearances,” because that is Mets-FO-level stupid, but I need something to hope on this season.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 1, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here
Closest I can find is Rubin’s original story in Daily News about the contract, where he mentions games played, not games started:
He has a vesting option for 2011 that will kick in based on games played during the upcoming season.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/12/01/2009-12-01_alex_cora.html
by Bieser's Balk on Jun 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I e-mailed Jeff from Cot's to see if he can shed light on it.
I’ll let you know if and/or when I get a response.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
thats awesome
Omar has turned failure into an art form. He’s the Picasso of poor choices.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Cora is just hitting his prime now
everyone knows middle infielders with no power or on base skills, and limited range really hit their stride at age 35. With him and Castillo for another year, we are truly stacked!
/pulls out cyanide tablet, swallows.
CORA FOR MANAGER!
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
this would be an interesting solution
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 1, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It would make for some fine fodder for The Michael Kaye show.
Today’s debate between he and Don in regards to Ollie Perez was epic. They were truly yelling at each other. Splendid debate!
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael vs. Don on Ollie Perez
(Paraphrasing)
Don: 2 unnamed sources on the Mets told a reporter that they don’t like Ollie.
Don in essence, had enough of Ollie Perez. He was of the mind that it is high time that Ollie needs to be gotten rid of because he’s a cancer to the team. Ollie didn’t want to go back to the minors to work on his pitching. Ollie is inconsistent and shows no sign of getting better. He’s been in the league for almost a decade and is almost 30 years old and is just eating up a roster spot.
Michael: You can’t (as an owner) just unload 20 million dollars (remaining monies on Ollie’s contract I presume) and get nothing for it by kicking him off the team. Don’t let Ollie go somewhere else (say – the Cardinals where he may get fixed) and then torch you later on down the road. You teach this guy a lesson and make him stay w/the team he’s with and make him work out his problems.
So in essence: Don has had enough (as many Mets fans have) and Don is a Mets fan. Money be damned says Don. Michael seems to believe that just because you have someone on the club you are spending a lot of money on, means you have to keep him regardless of how bad he is. He kept making reference to Chad Gaudin and the Yankees.
Don could have won the argument if he would have just stated that: “Ollie is a net negative. He doesn’t produce anything.” But those words were never uttered. He did mention that he would rather have an unproven but willing pitcher come up rather than a lazy and selfish has-been, such as Ollie Perez.
Both Don and Michael were in a seriously heated debate. Basically it was professional yelling, if there is such a thing. It was really awesome, because so many radio shows have two guys that are just too damned friendly when they debate, but this was 180 degrees away from that. It was emotional and straight from the heart. It must have lasted three separate segments of the show.
No one won the argument. It was a sheer war of attrition. I think that’s what made the debate good as well. They both had good points, but there was no clear winner.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would he manage?
Minaya keeps giving him 2 million a year to suck at playing.
Because he interviews well?
;-)
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 1, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
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