Mets 3, Padres 0: Jon Niese Draws Two Walks, Also Throws One-Hit Shutout
by James Kannengieser on Jun 10, 2010 9:39 PM EDT
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The topic of the 10:30 Wednesday Mets Mind-Boggler was "Mets Regular Season One-Hitters". By 9:30 PM Thursday, a new name was added to that list -- Jonathon Niese. The young lefty threw the game of his career, allowing just a 3rd inning double to Chris Denorfia and facing 28 batters, one over the minimum. Niese prevented a Padres doubleheader sweep and let fans stop worrying about Johan Santana, for a few hours at least. He also drew two walks. Maybe Eric "The Amazing Criswell" Simon should make the next Mets Mind Boggler topic "Mets Regular Season No-Hitters". Or, if he is feeling selfish, "Times Eric Simon Has Won The Lottery".
Niese never threw more than 17 pitches in an inning, and in five separate innings threw 10 or fewer pitches. He assaulted the strike zone -- his K/BB ratio was 6:0. It's now 45:19 on the season, which is excellent, especially considering his pretty 51% groundball rate. Niese's BABIP entering the game was .373 and it's much lower now. Regression is a beautiful thing, especially to a basement-dwelling saber-jerk such as myself. Let's hope Jonathon can keep that hamstring healthy and continue pitching great, alongside his boy Mike Pelfrey.
The Mets lineup improved over its feeble game one showing, but that's not saying much. Jose Reyes went 3-4 with a stolen base against Padres starter Jon Garland and Ike Davis added two hits. Jesus Feliciano had a rough go of it in his first MLB start -- 0-4 with a double play and just nine pitches seen. He's probably in Jerry's famous doghouse, meaning we'll never hear from him again. Also, Ruben Tejada grounded into a 5-4-3 triple play (video here).
Other random bullet thoughts, which don't really pertain to this game:
- Fernando Tatis has one plate appearance in June. Alex Cora has 12. I say start Tatis at second base when Ruben Tejada has a day off. Tatis is actually pretty decent.
- Jenrry Mejia's K/BB ratio is 1.23 and his xFIP is 4.69. Both are pedestrian. Bobby Parnell's K/BB last year as a reliever was 1.72, with an xFIP of 4.58. Mejia's groundball rate is far superior, but 2010 Mejia is basically 2009 Parnell. While Parnell is no relief ace, I'd wager he could equal Mejia's performance. Mejia to the minors, please.
- The game one gamethread today featured 54 users with a total of 1,223 comments. That's an average of 22.6 comments per user. Game two had 53 users and 975 comments, for an average of 18.4 comments per user. I participated in both and the discussion was funny, lively, and, dare I say, compelling.
To the chagrin of everyone, it's interleague play time again. The Orioles are up first on the docket, as the Mets travel to beautiful Camden Yards for a weekend series. I'll use that as an excuse to link two old posts I made about the Mets and The Wire, the brilliant HBO series set in Baltimore:
R.A. Dickey faces Jeremy Guthrie tomorrow night. Guthrie is a control specialist with flyball tendencies -- maybe some dingers are in order?
Poem by Howard Megdal
Padre attack against Niese was quite meager
Their only hit was a mere Texas Leaguer
Niese was a thoroughbred, a bullet train
Pies are okay; this calls for champagne
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Gaslamp Ball Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Jon Niese +40.5% (as pitcher), Jose Reyes +15.9%
Big losers: Ruben Tejada -14.8%, Jesus Feliciano -8.8%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Jose Reyes single +9.3%
Teh sux0rest play: Chris Denorfia double -7.1%
Total pitcher WPA: +40.5%
Total batter WPA: +9.5%
GWRBI!: Jeff Wincoeur
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by fxcarden; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | fxcarden | 83 |
| 2 | aparkermarshall | 63 |
| 3 | Michkin | 56 |
| 4 | Gina | 54 |
| 5 | firejerrynow | 50 |
| 6 | Syler | 44 |
| 7 | Endys Game | 41 |
| 8 | deadspy3 | 39 |
| 9 | Jadden Hopkins | 35 |
| 10 | KeithsMoustache | 35 |
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Thing of beauty!
J. Niese! Congrats! My word. Mets pitching (Johan aside) really is coming on strong. Keep it up! Makes us all feel giddy! Giggity-giggity!
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
"Bryce Harper - Dude, enough w/the eye black!"
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 10, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
very nice 1 hitter, 0 BB
They said on MLB that it was the 34th one hitter in Mets history.
by Rickfansince76 on Jun 11, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions
we have no no hitters
but we must have the most 1 hitters ever
I Believe in 80 wins
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 11, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Amazing Day by Niese
Great day by Reyes 3-4 by using his speed.
Jesus struggled in his first career start. Hitting in that two hole really killed some momentum.
Wright K’d for charity
Davis showed MLB poise with adjusting to the change up mid-game and driving it for an RBI.
Tejada……triple play….really?
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
I give all the credit to Eric Simon
For posting the 10:30 Wednesday Mets Mind Boggler…Mets one hitters! Well done, Mr. Simon.
"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez
I would nail that one.... hard
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 10, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta prepare for later tonight, you know?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 11, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a witch!
Eric, if you read this, please do one called Mets perfect games? It will be easy, plus it has to work!
Absoluely
Eric Simon’s grace has fallen on the Mets! He is our good luck charm.
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I have tabulated the odds of Eric Simon's accomplishment
1 in 154. That’s pretty impressive
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Wow
I don’t know what to say… his cutter was eating up the RH hitters, and he actually threw his curveball as a swing-and-miss pitch (along with it as a strike).. he even threw a nasty change-up in the 8th or 9th inning.
That's Niese Jon...That's Niese
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 10, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
We're now tied with the Phils
aka the fairly recent best team in baseball and great organization with the right attitude who brought in Roy Halladay. Yeah, we’re somehow tied with them despite horrible mismanagement. Woot!
The S.S. Amaro is slowly sinking
And the process is not even at full steam ahead!
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Luckily Amaro is just as bad as Omar
and quite possibly worse
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 10, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it's already falling apart
ryan howard has a sub .200 ISO, and his contract hasn’t even kicked in yet.
I’m pretty sure that’s going to be by far the worst contract in the majors by the time it does.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Raul Ibanez: 91 OPS+
But hey, at least it’s not like 8 of their top 10 prospects from last year were used to net them one pitcher or anything. I <3 the Ruben Amaro era.
2009 Did Not Happen
Although, to be fair they also received prospects for Lee
Still, pretty awful management. I figured the Phils would have another year or two of being at the top before the weight of their ineptitude collapsed in upon them. I didn’t figure things would head south this fast, though I imagine they’ll still wind up winning the division this year.
I don't know
they remind me of the 2007 Mets a bit. People keep expecting them to “wake up” so to speak, and they’ll show signs of life (10 runs 2 games ago), but then they go and get shut out the next night. I’m not saying they’re not gonna win the division, but if they do, it’ll be close. That, or the Braves will run away with this thing.
2009 Did Not Happen
Possibly
Unfortunately if they don’t win, the likely division winner would be the Braves. somehow that seems worse.
not for me
but I’ve been over all this before. I would much, much rather see the Braves (or the Marlins, or the Nationals) win than the Phillies. But, who knows – maybe the Mets can get really lucky and take this whole thing. It’s not outside the realm of possibility.
2009 Did Not Happen
yeah its amazing
just making the small moves that we all knew should have been done from the beginning, no maine and ollie, no jacobs/cats/gmjr, this team is suddenly a legit team, or at least NL legit.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
they received like three prospects back for Lee
one of whom is an overhyped bullpen arm. They weren’t anywhere near what they gave up for Lee and Halladay all together.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
imagine what we could do
with mediocre management
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
only downside is we're stuck with Jerry
I can live with Omar, but sheesh I hate Jerry
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
His honeymoon period has been renewed
Now we have to wait. But hey, I’d rather win our way to a playoff berth than hope the team does so bad that Jerry gets canned.
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He's the bee's niese!
Lots of fun.
I liked the footage of the victorious ballplayers filing in and turning their hats over to a laundary man who dropped them one by one down a hole. Very orderly system.
by Pack Bringley on Jun 10, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That was amusing indeed
I always figured that they just hung their caps in their lockers. Thank goodness SNY provides us with such unprecedented access!
by dontstopbelieving on Jun 10, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was
weird. I hate a brand new cap. Love a broken in used up one.
so fresh and so clean...clean
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
yeah, why do they need to do that?
do they where new hats every game? do they wash them?
Some guys have been known
to wear the same hat all year long. Unfortunately I’m drawing a blank on who used to do it. I guess they think it adds grission.
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
I remember John Wetteland's hat was usually pretty gross
by James Kannengieser on Jun 10, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Not as bad as Josh Johnson's was
that one day in Florida where it was hotter than hell and his hat was dripping sweat like rain out of a gutter
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Somewhat related note
Cohoon threw his second straight 3 hit shutout in a row down in Savannah tonight. Similar stats to Niese. 5 k’s, 1 bb, 14 groundouts. think he might be ready for St. Lucie. St. Lucie and B Mets also threw shutouts tonight. Four in the organization. Not bad. Still wish these guys would get moved to the pen, relievers are way more valuable than starters. I mean, starters don’t impact the game that much because they pitch the less valuable innings. And yes, Gina, I am being sarcastic.
comments on MetsBlog
are talking about adding a starter like Oswalt or Lee to go with Santana, Pelfrey and Niese…I’m sitting here thinking, why not send Mejia down and get him going.
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Well
They’re not mutually exclusive.
by dontstopbelieving on Jun 10, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
they more than likely are
Most deals that would bring a guy like Oswalt and Lee would probably include Mejia
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Seriously though
at this point why is he even here. He never pitches. There are so many other guys that could give the Mets what he is giving them, while there are no other pitchers in the organization that could potentially give the Mets what he could down the road. I think the Mets FO was absent the day their economics teacher taught them opportunity cost in high school. The other day Jerry mentioned on the radio that he was reluctant to use him because he struggles against righties and “at this point, cannot always throw his secondary pitches for strikes”. That is really the stupidest part of a many stupid part voltron. Even relievers need to learn to throw two pitches [except
Rivera]. Even if they think he will never be a starter, why not let him learn to at least be a reliever?
by Bruce Wayne on Jun 10, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
because Jerry wants him up here
the front office wants him down, Jerry says no, so we’re all screwed.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Jenrry Mejia only pitched 2.9% of the time, this month
If he were really needed, that figure would reach 5%
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whats frustrating
is that the power structure allows him to do that
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
It really helps when Pelf and Niese go long into games though
We barely even needed a bullpen over the last couple days. And Ollie’s out of the rotation, so you figure that cuts everyone else’s workload in half.
lol thanks for the heads up
i was 3 paragraphs into a rebuttal
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
No Problem
my Heath Bell comments the other night about his poor minor league numbers and the huge return of Ben Johnson seemed to throw you off.
by Bruce Wayne on Jun 10, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh, Ben Johnson
I had high hopes for the Memphis native.
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Relievers are 35% the value of starters
Substantial, I say!
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Very Niese-ly done Jon!
The following should definitely appear on Jeopardy...
ANSWER: They were invented in Philadelphia by the city's favorite icon Benjamin Franklin. However, they are very rarely used by people in the city and its surrounding areas.
QUESTIONS: What are logic, reason, and rational thought?
2010: Year of the Grission
Here's to The Knights That Say Ni-ese
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I thought they now say "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG. Zoom-Boing. Z'nourrwringmm."
The following should definitely appear on Jeopardy...
ANSWER: They were invented in Philadelphia by the city's favorite icon Benjamin Franklin. However, they are very rarely used by people in the city and its surrounding areas.
QUESTIONS: What are logic, reason, and rational thought?
2010: Year of the Grission
I don't know what's worse...
that this was the 27th one-hitter in Mets history (and no no-hitters) or the large amount of puns in this thread.
Guys, seriously!
If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
BTW,
what was our game thread stats?
If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
26th one hitter
Check the quiz and add one. (I knew that major in accounting would come in handy someday.)
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
Oh I thought the quiz was 26 one-hitters
and this was the 27th. my bad.
If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
sorry for the double post, internet is being annoying tonight
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 10, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He earned a double post, KM
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
Do we still need pitching?
Obviously, if we could realistically get a top tier pitcher at a reasonable price, then great. But would you folks trade a Jennry Mejia in a trade to let’s say, Baltimore in a trade for Jeremy Guthrie and Ty Wiggington?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
No meaning we don't need pitching
or no, we’re no not trading Mejia (at least in that deal)?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
If we trade Mejia for Guthrie and Wigginton
I’ll kill Omar. Literally. With my bare hands.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 10, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
well
guts isn’t awful, wiggles is due for a severely cold streak very soon though. it’d be wise to keep mejia.
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.
by danielreese05 on Jun 10, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I know little about Guthrie and I like Wigginton
but not enough to give up our best pitching prospect for them. Not trying to offend – just that I can totally see Omar doing that.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 10, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We could always use pitching
But the no is for that deal. No. No.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 10, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Parnell and other filers?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
fillers (?)
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
We can't get rid of Parnell
I want him to make it to the big league club again so I can get a captain fastball jersey
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 11, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
No you wait a month and offer less
You’ll get someone
Guthrie has not pitched great since the begginning of last yr
by Sir Tmac on Jun 10, 2010 11:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
3.47 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP in the AL (East)
And his K/BB ratio is very good (41/17)
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
If we're trading Mejia to Baltimore,
Nick Markakis better be coming back the other way
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
good joke.
markickass is here to stay.
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.
by danielreese05 on Jun 10, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't being serious
My point is that Mejia for Wigginton and Guthrie would be a horrible, horrible, horrible trade for us
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
i kinda knew that
just making sure, you can never tell with this internet business.
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.
by danielreese05 on Jun 10, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really good friends with one of Markakis's cousins
and she’s a Mets fan. Maybe she can use her influence…
2009 Did Not Happen
for Guthrie absolutely not
he’s like Oliver Perez part II.
or maybe that was cabrera idk
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Guthrie has been pretty decent actually
3.71 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 41K, 17 BB in 77.2 IP
But he isn’t worth Mejia
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
4.475 k/9
.258 BABIP. 73% LOB, 4.82 xFIP.
Don’t believe the hype
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
LOL, ok maybe he hasn't been decent
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
"WARGARDIUM LEVISOSA!"
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by sj10689 on Jun 10, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The problem is that
Minaya has no fucking clue what BABIP, LOB% and xFIP are or what they mean.
by JohnPeterson on Jun 11, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
One more pun
Niese makes Padres cry uncle.
From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere
- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)
Seems like a game to have been awesome to see. Sigh.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 10, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions
You go to a high school prom, instead of watching the Mets game?
You really need to get your priorities straight, dude…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 11, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to Niese being Dominant and giving the Padres a taste of their own Grisson.
And also a big Kudos to a WINCOEUR appearance occuring tonight! That Beard will not allow Jeff to have another 11 for 96,000 at-bats this year.
Jonathon Joseph Niese
Jo-Jo? (I’m sure I could do better than this, though)
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too much like HoJo
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Born on Game 7 1986 correct.
Speaking of 1986…there was a ball in the Rio when I went to Vegas last week signed by all members of the 1986 WS Mets. I so badly wanted to buy it. Too bad I didn’t win the jackpot.
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
The only other player ever born on the day when the Mets won a WS
was Matt Ruebel
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"....call HIM "The Game"...."
No Edit Buttons to assist anyone here. BOOOOO-URRRNSS!!!!
some things never change
Miguel Cairo, veteran second baseman, was batting second during Heilman’s one-hitter. Marlon Anderson, Victor Diaz and Chris Woodward also started that game.
Today, it was Jesus Feliciano, Chris Carter, and Ruben Tejada. Are we sure Willie didn’t just dye his facial hair and buy some glasses?
http://crosstownrivals.blogspot.com
I don't think even Willie could slip down into Jerry Manuel territory, even if he tried.
Willie >>> Jerry, and that’s saying something.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 11, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Niese Makes San Diego Cry Uncle!
best I could do.
tough night for Tejada and Feliciano
it is part of the process of getting to the bigs…but it shoul dbe goo dfor them in the long run.
Not as big a rally killer as a home run
by James Kannengieser on Jun 11, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
or drawing a walk
Way to clog those bases, Adam Dunn.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
Niese should be called
The Angry Pagan because of the way he slayed all those Padres. (couldn’t help it—inspired by Shaq’s self-nicknames)
James
thanks for linking to those “The Wire” posts – I watched the series for the first time over the winter, so they are much more meaningful to me now. It was actually that second post in November that convinced me I had to watch the show, so thanks for that, too!
Also, I normally hate interleague play, but I’m gonna make an exception for the Baltimore series b/c it gives me an opportunity to see the Mets for the first time this year (since, apparently, MLB checks my schedule every year to make sure they schedule the Nats series’ to coincide with weekends I won’t be in DC)
2009 Did Not Happen
Having Meijia work out of the bullpen
is the equivalent of McNutty working boat patrol. Just a waste.
"Mejia to the minors, please."
Preaching to the choir with that. I don’t even think Minaya and Co. know what xFIP is……. hence the use of Nieve and Dessens as 8th inning men.
the front office apparently wants him down
this is entirely on Jerrys and the messed up front office power structure
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I just don't get it
this would be like “The CEO & all other executives of McDonalds wants to switch to a lower-fat Big Mac, but the manager of the McDonald’s in Times Square doesn’t like that idea, so they’re not gonna do it”
2009 Did Not Happen
by cjmulrain on Jun 11, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I saw the first two perfect innings and then the hit, and was like oh shit, this is just another game,
not THE ONE, and I did other stuff. I glanced at the game now and then but never realized that that one hit was the only Padres batter to reach base.
For a Mets fan, a one-hitter is great, but it’s still… lacking. Damnit, how long…
why does Carter get pulled after 5 innings?
We know that Jerry mismanages the pen, But does jerry mismanage the starting lineup also????
He pulls him for Defense based on minor league reputation
We also know Jerry mismanages pretty much everything
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