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9 Jeff Francouers Applesauce - Mets better w/o dead weight, Cliff Lee update, Reyes is awesome

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This hot streak is awesome, don't get me wrong, but you've got to be a little pessimistic when Gary Cohen talks about the Mets' lineup taking on Jeff Francouer's approach at the plate instead of exercising patience. (I don't have a link, but I swear he said it). But, still, we can be happy that the team's playing well, particularly after they have shed (at least temporarily) some dead weight. And, we can always hate the Phillies.

The trade market is starting to heat up and the Mets are apparently taking hard looks at the available starting pitchers. Both Ted Berg and FanGraphs are cautious that a big splash is the best move.

Maybe Jose Reyes is starting to return to form finally.

Maybe we should be glad that Jerry is still managing the team, not because of the current hot streak, but because of who the replacement would have been.

Howard Megdal has pulled out his white silk glove and slapped Steve Phillips across the face.

Around MLB

Marty Noble says that Strasburg is the next Doc Gooden. Marty Noble would know.

Some amazing Jason Phillips stories out there. First of all, he's marrying a woman he picked up while sitting in the Mariner bullpen (where he's the catcher). Secondly, he is making weird eye improvement commercials.

Chipper says that the retirement talk will be put on the back burner until the end of the season.

The umpires called back the Astros and the Royals after conferring and overruling the original double play call.

There's some blowback about Kansas City winning the 2012 All Star Game. Bill Simmons and Deadspin are against it. Surprisingly, they weren't pitching the Boston idea.

Apparently, Johan Santana isn't the only New York pitcher who isn't striking guys out anymore.

Congratulations to Michael Young for passing Ivan Rodriguez as the Rangers all-time hits leader.

Looks like the Pirates pulled a Victor Zambrano or something with Aki Iwamura.

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Ok Ill say it

Whose gonna be the one to introduce Stratsburg to cocaine? Volunteers?

by DWEEEZ on Jun 18, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Cocaine? Pfff.

That’s so 1985. We need to get him on some more effective stuff. Anybody got any hallucinogens to service him?

2010: Year of the Grission

by R_Adragna on Jun 18, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

No coke necessary...

Mr. Strasburg, meet Rick Peterson, your new pitching coach… career over.
“Steve, you got something there, but i want you to tone it down a little, and just try to hit the outside corner with every pitch… oh and let me show you a little something that will help your mechanics”

NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!

by JPinVA on Jun 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rick Peterson working with Strasburg

RP: “So Steve…you know that big plus curveball that you throw? You know, the one that everybody is fawning over? Well that’s going to kill your career, so I want you to ditch it and start throwing a slider.”

SS: “But I don’t think…..”

RP: "Oh and one more thing…I want you to turn your fastball into a sinker…we’ll make you a sinker/slider groundball specialist. Hey, it worked for Pelfrey in NY.

SS: “But I throw 100 mph with regularity. You make no sense….”

RP: Look, this Fastball/Curve combo is like the old hardwood floor getting ripped out and the sinker/slider is the Tuscany tile that will be installed. You’ll be thanking me for this."

Flash forward 2 years and Stephen Strasburg is licking his hands, wearing a mouthpiece and putting up 1:1 K/BB ratios and above 5 ERA’s.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 18, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with the cautious approach.

If anything, we will need bullpen help. Think of it this way – is there anyone in the lineup massively overachieving? On the contrary, several guys have underachieved. In the rotation, Pelfrey and Santana have peripherals that suggest they might regress a bit, but not massively so, and the rest of the rotation at least looks fairly decent. It’s the bullpen that is on the precipice of an explosion, and that’s where I’d look for help. Besides, even if the pen didn’t deteriorate rapidly, it never hurts to add an arm or two. I’d also look for a cheap utility guy, or simply grab someone who has been DFA’d recently.

by dcmetsfan on Jun 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Well look at it this way.

Picking up another starter is a 2 for 1 deal. Not only does it bolster the rotation, it also boosts the bullpen because it sends either Dickey or Takahashi back there.

by SFloridaMetsFan on Jun 18, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Takahashi's time is limited

I don’t think Tak will hold up. I’d like to see him back in the pen.

I've seen the Broncos miss the playoffs three times in the final game the last four seasons. I've seen Brodeur give up 2 goals in the last 1:40 of a Game 7. I've seen the Mets break my heart twice in September. 2010 Mets...please bring me some happiness again!!

by ZaBlanc on Jun 18, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with the Francoeur approach being worrisome

It seems like everyone is goin’ up hackin on the first pitch, which currently is working, but is not a good long term approach. Hopefully they will rethink their strategy when facing these better teams that might take advantage of their over-aggressiveness. Could result in a lot of 8 pitch innings.

Travis Hafner is made of gold

by Super Mario on Jun 18, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

According to John Kruk, this is the approach MLBers should take

Because the cautious, OBP-conscience, drive the pitch count up approach is what is making offenses weaker and is leading to all these no-hitters and dominating pitching performances.

I knew there was a reason I didn’t watch Baseball Tonight.

by dcmetsfan on Jun 18, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

so thats why Joe Mauer sucks

OBP conscious loser

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Jun 18, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

YAKNOW

I think it’s the exact opposite. It’s the go up there and try to hit a nine-run homer during every at bat approach. That and statistical noise.

by tmu on Jun 18, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

IMO this was the biggest problem with the mets at the beginning of the season.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on Jun 18, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed completely

Their outside the zone swing percentage definitely seemed to back up them swingin’ for the fences

Travis Hafner is made of gold

by Super Mario on Jun 18, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pagan

gets no credit for being a yuckster himself. The prolonged sneak attack pieing of Niese? It was well played. And as for a nice smile, he’s clearly the handsomeist Met. David’s cute in a teeny bop kind of way, but that doesn’t impress this heterosexual
male. I like me Pagan.

by Pack Bringley on Jun 18, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Doh

I’m responding to something I now realize was in last night’s recap, not here. Nevertheless, he’s handsome.

by Pack Bringley on Jun 18, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

frenchy is the handsomest met wright now

Beltran takes the cake by far though, he is a beautiful man.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on Jun 18, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sexist pig!!

What? Are the Mets just OBJECTS to you?!?!?

by tmu on Jun 18, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johan is pretty

But I have to say Wright is far down the list when it come to somebody I’d want to get busy with.

by SuperT on Jun 18, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Murphy?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 19, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

If its possible to pawn off Francouer to someone in a trade? I feel like the MSM is pumping him up so much that some GM out there may actually think that he is good.

by Joshuah on Jun 18, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

omar can't trade to himself

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on Jun 18, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frenchy for Greinke straight up

Look at his W-L record. We’ll take that loser off your hands.

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Jun 18, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Moore would throw in a prospect or two to get that done

Maybe Mike Moustakas if we add in Omir Santos.

Sorry…I’m just trying to think along the lines of what Moore thinks. It’s tough to replicate the thoughts of such a baseball visionary!

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 18, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And lastly...

Aaron Crow for Bobby Livingston. Livingston has MLB experience, and can help the Royals right now, as he is AAAMLB ready

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds fair to Dayton!

Of course that would certainly put an end to the contest, meaning that Omar would then be forced to deal Greinke, Moustakas and Crow to San Diego for David Eckstein (and then sign him to a 4 year extension) in order to keep up with Moore.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 18, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

no omar would just send them meija

and then put grienke in the bullpen to replace him

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on Jun 18, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder why Mejia's name and Niese keep being mentioned by media outlets

It’s somewhat sickening, at this point. But hey, since the Mets FO sometimes actually do pay attention to the media, remember to keep fingers crossed, that they listen to the right people.

On a side note, I had a horrible dream that this happened:

I can’t shake the feeling of dread, and my hopes that I’m not clairvoyant this time.

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard yestarday, speaking of Cliff Lee, that Amaro was thinking about possibly trading for him.

That would be both horrible and beautiful at the same time.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 18, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what the price tag would be?

Maybe the Phils could get him for a package of, say, J.C. Ramirez, Phillippe Aumont, and Tyson Gillies?

by dcmetsfan on Jun 18, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they throw in Domonic Brown along with that package and

Then Halladay immediately gets injured after the trade, it would be the best thing ever.

by Evan_S on Jun 18, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Lee + Halladay would be horrible, from our POV, but Amaro further messing up their future, in prospects, to require Lee, would be awesome.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamels in Seattle

That would be an interesting little experiment. How does a bar fight brawler blend in with a city known for its aurum of intellectualism and the storied Grunge atmos?

This would be doubly as intriguing if it involved Brett Myers.

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really really really really

hope this happens. or they trade for another starter.

I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.

by Gina on Jun 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Boston

Nobody but you gives a damn that it’s the 100th anniversary of your craphole stadium. You just had the ASG like ten years ago, now it’s somebody else’s turn. You whiny fucks.

by JoshNY on Jun 18, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Wasn't Citi Field due for that ASG?

The Mets have hosted exactly one… in 1964. Or is Bud playing the lame tune that the Yankees got the game in 2009, so it counts for ‘New York’.

by spaceboy761 on Jun 18, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

After New York (Mets), the Dodgers are next in line with the longest drought without an ASG

Their last ASG was in 1980 – that is a wide disparity, relative to now, from 1964. I can’t find a good reason why the Dodgers shouldn’t have an ASG at least by 2016 – and no, the Angels don’t technically count for L.A., geographically speaking (metropolitan marketing regions aside), so don’t get caught up in that crap.

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Future ASGs

2011: Chase Field
2012: Kauffman Stadium
2013: Citi Field (likely)
2014: Target Field (likely)
2015: Nationals Park (likely)

My predictions (based on logic):

2016: Rogers Centre
2017: Dodger Stadium
2018: Ballpark in Arlington
2019: Carnival Field (believe me, having a ballpark named for this Miami-based company is a no-brainer)
2020: Cisco Field
2021: Citizens’ Bank Park
2022: Jacobs Field
2023: Petco Park
2024: “The Mast”
2025: Great American Ballpark
2026: The Moon

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about Cuba

But PR, maybe, although the excessive amounts needed for the air budget make that a stretch.

The Moon is a destination in a neutral site (to balance out the fact that there are less teams in the A.L., to avoid back-to-back NL sites being chosen).

Think about it…

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

If all these 2012 theorists are correct, we may never see an AS game on the moon. Maybe they should expedite this and put the game up there in 2012.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 18, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A compromise

MLB can also go to the moon (supposedly), except that it’s actually a giant green room. If we should all, let’s go knowing (or thinking) that we witnessed one of the most exciting ASGs ever. I don’t think we’re quite ready to make this trip practical in this short amount of time.

Just so that we get everyone in the ASG, let’s also have 2 f them each year, just like in the 1960s.

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The mets have been offered

a couple of times before to host it and they have turned it down.

by Joshuah on Jun 18, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 Jeff Francouers

That also made me almost spit up my drink when I heard Gary say that, and he sounded like it was a good thing. They are rolling right now, so you can’t question it, but at some point, if they don’t get some walks, pitchers will start expanding the zone and getting easy outs.

9 Frenchys on the field at once? Imagine he kept multiplying like that scene from Fantasia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XChxLGnIwCU

Scary.

by David G on Jun 18, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I was only half paying attention

but I don’t know that he was endorsing it. Gary is very good at bringing up things that need some critical attention, but without sounding necessarily critical himself.

by SuperT on Jun 18, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Steve Phillips doesn't respond to that nonsense

Why should he? To be exploited in some half-baked book for profit? Give me a break. End the “campaign”. There’s a really interesting baseball season happening right now. No need for such superfluous distractions.

by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Why??

It seems you know more than Omar and if you ever get into a jam you have all of AA to fall back on for advice. Especially with me as your Asst.

by SFloridaMetsFan on Jun 18, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok how abou this

AA buys the Mets. James K. runs the team?

by SFloridaMetsFan on Jun 18, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

as opposed to Wright Ks for charity

how about he Ks for AA to run the damn team

I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.

by EMSfan9 on Jun 18, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

But then called back by some corrupt jackass from Mali.

by tmu on Jun 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch!

Yeah that ref ruined an awesome comeback. I don’t want to finish second in our group. Germany looks strong, despite their defeat today.

I also hopes he admitts he is wrong and a jackass.

by Coolpapabell on Jun 18, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

Some gambling drug lord probably told him he’d kill his family if the US won.

Germany also was the victim of shite refereeing. It’s an epidemic. Makes the NBA look on the level.

by tmu on Jun 18, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

been awful this year for sure

I should be happy about the draw, but instead im disappointed.

by KeithsMoustache on Jun 18, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

How awesome is this?

I don’t know if this has been posted already, but I can’t wait to watch the game next Wednesday.

Seinfeld to grace Mets booth Wednesday, Comedian to log three innings in reunion with Hernandez

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100618&content_id=11310026&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

by METSRULE on Jun 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

General Managers are elected?

Where do I vote?

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhh... sweet Democracy

Where would we be without it?

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by sj10689 on Jun 18, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

My name is Howard Megdal. As you have probably heard, I am running for General Manager of the New York Mets.

by Sam Page on Jun 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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