Open Thread: Mets vs Yankees, 6/20/2010
by Eric Simon on Jun 20, 2010 12:42 PM EDT
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I'll start with a Kinerism.
“It’s Father’s Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday.”
2010: Year of the Grission
by R_Adragna on Jun 20, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That Sabathia picture is hillarious.
“Should I get the BLT, or should I get the Italian? Oh, yeah, the Italian…Mmmm….”
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 20, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
They're playing "New York, New York" on the PIX pregame
Uh oh
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
I really hope we win today
So people can shut up about the “soft” schedule we’ve feasted on
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
ah crap YES feed
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
here's hoping for a better headline tomorrow
“Yankee’s Long Balls Give Phil Hughes His 10th Win.”
ouch.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Game is TBS game today
But the put Eckersley instead of Darling
by Sir Tmac on Jun 20, 2010 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Game is TBS game today
But the put Eckersley instead of Darling
by Sir Tmac on Jun 20, 2010 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you are angering Matthew Cerrone
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Darling is working on PIX
TBS doesn’t have exclusivity rights to any regular season games, so their broadcast is blacked out in the NYC area
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
I wouldn't have minded
Tatis at 2nd, Ruben at short and Jose at DH. He missed a year and and now he’s playing every day, it would be a good idea to get him some rest.
Plus Jose is in groove
Not showing signs of tiring
by Sir Tmac on Jun 20, 2010 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it's so buggy regardless
i’d hate to see you suffer
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
mlb's crappy Extra Innings package?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
at least when you do get the games, they don't come in and out and buffer and all
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i live in LA so they're all away
maybe it’s different for you.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm
TBS broadcast is blacked out for me. Not that I’d watch that over PIX anyway.
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
Yeah
As I mentioned earlier, they don’t have exclusivity rights to any regular season games, so in NYC this game is blacked out (with no alternate programming, which I find kinda weird)
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
Let's win this!
Feature presentation
*
Game 3 of 3 of Subway Series
NYM Baseball
“Let’s go Mets”
* Not playing today
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The inspiration for this
was, of course, the likeness of the nature of “The Animal” an Leo the Lion
A proud purveyor of MS Paints since Sep 09, 2009
i said this before but
can you substitute “COUER” for “MARK”?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
All this time,
I overlooked the possibilities of the presence of “Trade mark”
A proud purveyor of MS Paints since Sep 09, 2009
awesome
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
as for the soft schedule
the skanks are 18-4 vs bal, oak, cle and hou this year and 24-22 vs everyone else – aka they beat up on bad teams too
KB, we don't care about the fucking bleacher creatures
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
RE: YES broadcast
what happened? was Paul O’Neal to stupid to find his way back to Yankme stadium?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
He almost nailed sabathia, haha
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
no
it wouldve been a 161 mil man down for the count and countless mets fans laughing their asses off
he works best on his knees
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
this was hilarious pal
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Blargh
The slider low and away is death to Ike
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
by the way as agressive as Francour is
How patient is Ike he is always 2 3 and 3 2
by Sir Tmac on Jun 20, 2010 1:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Let's get rid of those bad Yankee Stadium memories from last year, Johan
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
Ike K's
on a low slider by Sabathia
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
howie just called this the homie infield
nice nickname
WE ARE THE NEW YORK METS
AND WE’RE HERE TO FUCK SHIT UP.
by freakystyley on Jun 20, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
thats right, forgot about that
definitely did a number on the field
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it was the fight they had at the stadium
a few weeks ago
That's due
to the Cotto/Foreman fight a few weeks ago.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
heard on a previous broadcast
that the set-up for a boxing match there really mashed down the sod.
its killed the grass where they keep
Suzyn Waldman caged at night
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
its similar
except your dog is cuter when it relieves itself
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it's from the boxing match
(Everyone saying the same thing ftw)
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
question regarding comments on YES broadcast
RE: Santana
when your fastball is 89 instead of 92-3, does that necessarily mean your changeup becomes less effective? I get how a decline in velocity can make a fastball less imposing, but isn’t it possible that relative to the fb the change can still get separation/be effective?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Mets announcers always say its the difference between the fastball and changeup
that are most important
you would be wise to ignore anything said on YES.
they are usually wrong, as they twist everything to advantage Yankees.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
well yeah
but i’m trying to separate the empty headed nonsense from the accidentally on target nonsense
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
K
That feels good to type
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
hey question about fangraphs pitch type values
they use the same pitch classification as their front page ones, which are apparently wrong for every player, so exactly how accurate are they?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
by the end of inning he hit 90
Is he trying to save the arm for 2nd half where he is normally unbeatable.
by Sir Tmac on Jun 20, 2010 1:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
@KBurkhardtSNY
Wish I could stay the whole game with @baldvinny and the creatures, but I got booted. Got booed and enjoyed it haha.
couldn't get his knuckles to drag
so failed the initiation ordeal
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
hey i didnt say that was a huge accomplishment here
just saying it would have been nice to see it get 260 feet and clear the wall
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
did the 2 homers not get him back in his rhythm??
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i did bench him today!
for the good of the team
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
this K is brought to you by PC Richard.
just like the Mets stolen base is brought to you by NY Life.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
yeah it's embarrassing
they’re chasing everything. it works when you get 6 games against crappy pitchers, but not so much against Sabathia.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
show us your TATIS!!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
low and inside
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
did you know he once hit two grand slams in one inning?
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
is history destined to repeat itself?
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If we manage to load the bases twice in the same inning, that would be a victory in itself.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
if we manage to load the bases and score runs without making outs
that would be a victory at this point
Was strike three to tatis almost in the dirt, or was it me?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
That was at his ankles
maybe the ump wants to go home
Too close to take, yes
and I hope Johan gets it too
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankee Stadium= Little League Field
by Sir Tmac on Jun 20, 2010 1:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
LOL-Rod
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
Bench A-Rod for not running that one out....
that was very non – Yankee
One day, this team is going to kill me.
we should pay santana 120 million just to coach
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
anyone else notice
that santana’s got more wiggle in his butt today when he settles in to pitch?
he do the Jeter bs?
its on the inside corner so I am going to jump back
well if they're gona get a base
make them earn it
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
All ML do that now
it was a ball anyway
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
cano didn't even try to get out of the way
i say that’s a strike.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
What a pussy.
He’s still grimacing at first base.
It was a change up
man up and go to first
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
We need a benches clearing fight.
They can fuck up Jerry all they want.
by freakystyley on Jun 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, that was epic last night in Miami
they handed out vuvuzelas to the crowd……….
One day, this team is going to kill me.
15,000
apparently it was so low the ump didn’t get the double switch right, and then called the Marlins for batting out of order.
LOL
One day, this team is going to kill me.
epic fail?
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
next time i go to a braves-mets game
i’m bringing a vuvuzela
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
New tough acting Douche-away
it gets the douche out.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember Mortal Kombat?
I think it was either Sonya or Kitana… They kiss you and your head blows up?
Yeah. Want that to happen to him.
Cervelli is like the k-mart version of victorino
They are both annoying as hell
by Dgtloutlaw on Jun 20, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
the TBS broadcast team really blows
they won’t shut up about how weak Johan’s fastball is
www.thisguysucks.org
Who's broadcsting for them today?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Keith fail
just called Santana a crappy pitcher…..
I guess he meant scrappy
One day, this team is going to kill me.
yes
I just rewinded (rewound?) and he indeed said crafty
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
Phew
Santana, please start putting people away when you’re up 0-2.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
he needs to re-find his put away pitch soon
he works out of trouble, but these pitch counts are a problem
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job by Johan there
8-9-1 will be up in the 3rd
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Bay is decent in LF
better than I thought he would be.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
he's much more mobile than I thought he'd be
unfortunately he also doesn’t hit near as well as expected.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol ... right about the hitting part.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
why?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
the fist pump
the general douchiness he gives off just by being himself
Aside from the simpleton "all Yankees are douches"
is there really a reason?
Cuz the dude gets hyped up after making a play?
Do you just hate Italians?
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't just get hyped up after a play.
It’s the general douchiness of fistpumping constantly and then the bullshit how he tries to fake that the ball goes behind him. He’s a douche. Only douches do that shit.
Darling hates life....
and lol at the fistpumps…I guess they should ban them…
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a time and place. People always get bitchy over Reyes being happy.
We hear it all the time on WFAN.
But when a Yankee does it, it’s now no big deal? Fuck Cervelli.
shouldn't have to ban them
players should have enough class to realize that literally every time you do your job correctly a fist pump is not required in celebration, unless they’re just that surprised they did something right.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing against ital's
since the first game I saw him he has rubbed me the wrong way watching him. has a sense of entitlement or something.
yeah, I think he is actually latino
with an italian last name
One day, this team is going to kill me.
yes
but his pops is from Italy
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not really hate,
just mild annoyance really. Getting hype after every play? Seems a bit much IMO.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
maybe so
but usually its a breath of fresh air on a team that for all these years seemed like it didn’t have a pulse.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. If I hear one more moronic Yankees fan praise Cervelli and bash Reyes...
…I’m going to blow their head up with a Vuvu.
probably wouldn't even care....
at least I wouldn’t.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Free, you're not the insane fan like most Yankees fans are, though.
Same way with you with the Giants and such. You’re a level headed dude for the most part.
Yankees fans, as a whole, are not that level headed and are reactionary. You are in the good minority.
agreed
I hate a good portion of Yanks fans.
..I just find it a bit funny that you all hate Cerv so much. We all love em at PSA.
He’s also known by “God”.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The title of "God"
is reserved for Heyward & Strasburg.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
they invented tabs on browsers now
should try it.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm running that thread!
aaaand paying attention to this one…
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
they didnt have a pulse because their FO and management
insisted they take a businesslike approach to the game. They were lifeless by design, not by player choice.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
im just saying the yankees fans got used to guys with no personality
so now any personality looks good, even if its a realy arrogant annoying one.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooo ... Kimberly Jones
I’m sweating too Kim.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
I like the horsey look
what can I say. I just can’t get a feel for what’s below the waist. They never show that. Maybe she has the badonkadonk?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
isn't Luis castillo not feeling better considered progress as far as the team is concerned?
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
he can come back when he's 100% ready
if such a time exists.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't hold your breath
I’m thinking microfracture surgery.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
I'm not so sure...
Beltran in RF would be justifiable to lighten the load on his knee. Pagan’s importance only adds strength to that argument.
yeah but they wont put him there
because carlos beltran is a center fielder.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
to lighten the load on his knees?
and because we don’t know how his defense will hold up.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
you're confusing "we" and the front office
I know he belongs in a corner OF spot, the FO will probably say, he’s a center fielder, so he should go back to CF
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
their "logic" is so clear to me
so clear and so tragic.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The description of the game on TBS's website
New York Mets @ New York Yankees
(2010)
null
www.thisguysucks.org
He shouldn't have swung... but the kid did have a good AB
On a hot day like this… 3 ball counts are killers
crowds going to boo jose for the celebrating
when cervelli and joba are fist pumping every 10 seconds?
per yahoo on Maine
—Mets manager Jerry Manuel says right-hander John Maine(notes) is not feeling well and will be reevaluated before going forward with his rehabilitation for a shoulder injury.
Manuel was vague Sunday when discussing Maine’s situation before the Mets played the Yankees in the finale of the Subway Series. Manuel would not say what was wrong with Maine, who has been on the disabled list since May 21 because of shoulder weakness.
I thought it looked like it when they originally put him on
tendinitis basically means, we want you on the DL but you’re not hurt.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Efus-itis
A syndrome which prevents one from being able to throw fastballs.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
41 pitches thru 3 for Sabathia
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Question
Know I’m going into enemy grounds for this one, but why exactly do you hate Cervelli again? And responding “cause he’s a douche” doesn’t really explain your answer
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
that’s it?
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
do I need more ?.
OK….he is a communist, too.
(don’t really know that but it sounds good).
One day, this team is going to kill me.
i doubt he's a communist
but the fact that you can’t come up with anything else just further validates my point
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
This whole theme is not to be taken seriously, exactly
It’s something associated with a theme of things – makes for some comical references
A proud purveyor of MS Paints since Sep 09, 2009
cause he’s a douche
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You, my friend, are a genius
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
at least I'm smart enough to scroll up to see that this exact question is
being answered above at great length. I think we’re being pretty accommodating to the Yank trolls today.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
define troll
is a troll someone who comes to your site and asks a simple question?
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
someone that wastes everyone's time baiting fans of another team
hows that?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just trying to understand your thinking
not trolling. When someone tries to start a discussion according to the SB Nation rules they should be welcomed not called a troll. But alright, you’re the smart one here it’s not like I write for an SB nation site and had to read the rules and have to deal with REAL trolls
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
actually i saw your handle
and was a little surprised that you’d stoop to coming here to bait us. So that’s another way to look at it.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If you really think I'm here to bait you
That’s just awesome. I go almost every game to the other site to see what’s going on and try to contribute to the discussions. If one of the front page writers thinks i’m trolling I’ll leave upon being asked right away, no questions asked
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
seriously man
first you come over here to which is already being answered elsewhere in the thread (scroll up). Then you appeal to the SBNation rules like this is Star Trek federation or some shit. Now you’re pulling rank.
So I don’t find your particular approach to engagement that worthwhile. That’s not to say a real interesting question involving would be rejected by our community.
Questions about "douche"ness are hardly the kind of thoughtful probing debates that we should be expected to be hospitable to. That’s just my opinion not the opinion of the site owners or moderators.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry "involving"...
actual baseball, not just emotional bs. Of course we are predisposed to jokingly thinking little of Yankees players.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If it's jokingly that's one thing
I’m not trying to start trouble but being called a troll is absoluetly unnecessary. Does it matter the subject of discussion? People should be happy to discuss what they want and ignore what they don’t want. To be honest I wasn’t looking to argue as much until you called me a troll, which I am definitely not
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
well, you called me a genius, which i definitely am not
I hope you can understand why it came off as baiting. Hope you’ll try again to engage us with some more worthwhile material. Community isn’t like championships, it can’t just be bought. Just kidding.
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"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That really didn't make any sense
but alright then lets drop it
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
can you imagine if the mets tried to buy community
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i know it would be located on swamp land
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
the first castle was built on a swamp it sank
so we built a second one, it also sank into the swamp, we built a third one, it burned down, and then sank into the swamp, but we built a fourth one, and that castle is the sturdiest in the land.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine by me!
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
We all go off on tangents in a game thread
Brandon’s been civil, there’s no reason to call him a troll or what not
thank you!
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
Me or him?
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
thank you!
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
you kinda just been talking about players we hate
and why. not the game
If you want to talk about the game, sure
Doubt you’d really let a real civil discussion take place
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
me?
have i not been civil? i havent attacked you are just said moron or some dumb one word response – unless maybe joking about cervelli
I meant in general
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
why?
were all civil, just like joking – especially when losing
humorless corporate winning machine culture
is probably a lot different than our hilarious corporate losing culture.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hey i can be funny!
just the other day one of my joking tweets was retweeted by a mets analyst! Yeah, I’m legit like that (kidding)
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
It's tough to tell the difference
between humor and disdain for yankees fans
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
we dont have disdain for reasonable yankees fans
but there arent many of you. most would just be yelling obcenities
Neither
might have been a newspaper guy, not sure
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
Understood
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
Sometimes,
the word “troll” is misused – I don’t consider you a troll
But do keep in mind that this site is absolutely laden with inside references.
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Most SB nations sites have that
when it’s a new site for someone it’stough to tell the difference between reference and serious
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
I think I get it
I once accidentally called the manager Jerry Manurel – the Manure part perpetuated into that one. All because of an ‘r’.
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accidentally?
or cleverly on purpose?
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand
The lines are blurred sometimes, especially when sarcasm is involved – many fights and conflicts break out because of a little misunderstanding.
But after a while, the boundaries become very discernible
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Cutural differences
i.e. The V for victory sign in the U.S., means F*** off, in the U.K.
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The inside references are existent in amost every SBNation blog
That is why some material here may seem confusing to understand
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what's wrong with the way he plays?
because he hustles? he might overexaggerate some things but he’s usually just hustling in an abnormal measure
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
It's not that he's the problem per se,
I don’t really care if he’s hype or whatever. But when Jose Reyes, it’s a big storm and we’re flooded w. “he’s immature,” “he doesn’t play right,” etc. The double standard is what offends me.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Here's what I think
I don’t mind Jose Reyes or the way he acts or anything. That’s just me. When my brother (a mets fan) complains about Joba that bothers me. Why is K-Rod allowed to do that kind of stuff when Joba can’t? Double standards really anger people and I understand that
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
well krod is ending the game
joba is ending the 7th or 8th inning
and?
If they tie the game in the 8th or the 9th what’s the difference? Still gets you closer or at the victory
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
exactly what you said
its not over, its just the end of the 8th. when krod does it, its over
same goal
preserving the lead. If the Mets set up man did that can you honestly say you would be upset he was doing that?
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
so should a reliever brought in as a LOOGY for one batter
be celebrating and fist pumping for getting the first out of the 7th? He’s getting them closer to a win. Its just a matter of drawing the line where celebration is premature
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
OK same question
if that happened and he was on the Mets would you say “oh he shouldn’t be doing that” you’ll probably say yes to me when the real answer for 99.9% of people no
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
K-rod can celebrate
because getting outs is so hard for him
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Look at our response to Lastings Milledge when he was excessively celebrating
back when he was a Met. Most of us weren’t really enamored of his antics either. Theres a time and place for celebration, and players should know the limits.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
"KNOW YOUR PLACE ROOK!"
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Who gives a shit about that?
The only reason to hate Joba is cause he’s an asshole who drinks and drives. I could care less about what his celebrations
never said he was a good guy
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
He's an average player, which the media has propagated to be another Yankee "star"
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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Not really
He’s projected to be the future backup catcher such as a better hitting Jose Molina in the future, i’m sure the media has overhyped a mets player before, do Yankees fans hate him?
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
all the douchey stuff he does, mostly
The histrionics behind the plate, especially the pathetic fakes that a pitch got by him with a runner on. And his stupid douche face
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He gets ridiculously overexcited about doing the most basic things
Its ok to celebrate, but not every time he does literally anything. Oh I put on my pads all by myself, fist pump. I fouled off a pitch, fist pump, I remembered how to spell my own name… thats a fistpump. he fakes being hit by pitches that aren’t even close. He gets hyped constantly as the next big thing at catcher, even though everyone knows he’s pretty average. On top of that he’s a Yankee and a douche.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The first part of that actually really made me laugh
Props for that. I guess Mets fans just automatically hate Yankees players…
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
and the Yanks have so many that fit this category
come to think of it, it’s pretty amazing that we’d even notice Cervixelli in this crowd!!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
cervixelli?
you guys are on a roll!
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
laugh with us....not at us.
we do the best we can under the circumstances
One day, this team is going to kill me.
I don't hate quite a few yankees (aside from their affiliation with the Yankees)
I specifically hate players who are intentionally inflammatory and generally act with a sense of entitlement or smugness. Cerevelli is smugness incarnate in my opinion. I have no problem with plenty of Yankees players on a personal level.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
he did get a couple severe concussions
that’s why he’s got the helmet.
Maybe that’s why?
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that might explain why he gets pissy on inside pitches
but unless you’re claiming brain damage (i might grant you that excuse) it doesn’t justify his smugness.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
probably..
I guess I just don’t see the smugness. I can see how he does come across like that tho…I just think that Cisco is just a harmless player. I don’t really think he’s trying to show anyone up or anything…
I guess its just the way he is. I always thought the stuff he did was funny cuz he’s such an “italian”, but I guess that’s me.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
this.
I like a lot of Yankee players myself,
Mo, Capt’n, Swish, to name a few.
Pettite too, but he juiced so he dropped down the list.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
yeah i'd even add Gardner and Granderson to that list
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck Gardner
Mostly because I’ve heard Yankee fans say he’d be a better leadoff hitter than Jose, which is quite absurd.
yea thats stupid
but he goes about his busniess and plays well. Can’t blame him for the stupid media
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i respect the talent of the great one
jeter and mo especially, but dont like em too much – dont have to
yeah i wouldn't say like
but respect definitely. Cerevelli I don’t respect.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking my next car might be an Edge
with a cool panoramic vista roof.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
i love how the players who are the "future of the yankees"
are like 28-30
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Steroids
Sorry
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Fail
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
You don't think he did?
lol.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
You're nuts
He did.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Don't be naive.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
its more naive to assume he did steroids
without any actual evidence.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
naive to give my hero the benefit of the doubt?
when he was always awesome
why?
he was always big, never got bigger, and always really good. he had the normal catcher injuries
and he hit for just as much power in the minors
i really don’t see what evidence there is for it. He had no unlikely power surges.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Niave
Morons? Really?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
naive is believing something despite overwhelming evidence
to the contrary. So far you’re the only person doing that. lay out some evidence rather than using one word retorts and maybe someone will have a better opinion of your argument than just thinking you’re a moron. Cause all this point, all you’ve done is sound like a naive moron.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I'm back
I finally lost patience with the internet connection (or lack thereof), so I reset the whole damned thing. I hope it works better this time.
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you reset the entire internet?
[al gore joke]
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals really, really suck
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Yeah .... how else does one explain this comeback?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
maybe he was just unhealthy the last two years
and now he’s healthy?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Just stopping in
I am getting sick and tired of the TBS media SLOBBERING over the Yankees
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
I don't live in NY
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Great
Another batter reaches after Santana can’t put him away
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hes heading towards becoming John Maine
hate to say it, but when you gotta go to 8 pitches on every batter…
Oh for fuck's sakes
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+1
for truth
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"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Check out the Brazil vs. Côte d'Ivoire thread
here on AA
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Thanks Johan
Another craptacular effort from our supposed “ace”
Fucking chump
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It's not one start
He doesn’t K people anymore, his walk rate is up, he can’t put batters away, and he gets knocked around outside of large pitcher’s parks
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I was
and I know Santana had a little bad luck this inning, but he’s been flirting with danger constantly his last few starts, and it’s come back to bite him a lot
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
still
there’s obviously something wrong with him
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 20, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Now Tex remembers how to hit
You suck Mark
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
at least tex killed the rally
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
by Gina on Jun 20, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is exactly what I predicted
This certainly sucks, but we’re not doomed if we lose this series
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and if we lose today, it's still a split for the season series
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No one
Thats the way the yankees beat you every time. You don’t get outs you should get and they fuck you. every time
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there's a lot of time left...
oh who am I kidding
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
Here is some advice to all my Met fan friends.........
DO NOT listen to ESPN radio tomorrow between 3pm and 7pm.
#$#^*$%#*%*#%^#$(#%^#%(#%$^#%((#%^#$&#$%#%##^&##^#&$#$%#
One day, this team is going to kill me.
why listen to espn radio ever?
i think i’d rather listen to house music
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
by Gina on Jun 20, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just loops of Michael Kay over and over.
Set to house music.
by Jonathan. on Jun 20, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was the 7th GS the Mets have allowed this year?
I don’t remember like any others
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Johan gave one up in the first inning of a Nats game to Willingham
It was also (ironically) on a Sunday afternoon.
not even the first by santana
didnt willinham have one
I remember the one Nohan gave up to
the nats
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"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 20, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This start is eerily similar to his other one last year at Yankee stadium
lets hope its not season ending surgery in July again
We still have the WC.
Division is a toss up at this point.
It's the middle of June
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
And that's an impressive way to look at it
Considering that I really low expectations of this team before the season began.
2010: Year of the Grission
no....
we will be right there on Sept 1st, and then Ollie, Castillo, and Maine will come back.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
at that point its fine
we have a 40 man roster
At this point, I think we all realize we need to be up more than 12 games on Sept 1
So… probably not.
with the Phillies down yes Atlanta is no that good
I believe we are 4 and 1 against Braves
by Sir Tmac on Jun 20, 2010 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I never really played baseball outside of little league
But wouldn’t stopping and pivoting get the ball released quicker instead of doing that ridiculous jump that he does?
If Santana is santana then we've got a good chance
If he’s Santana 2010 then I don’t think so
As am I
People will be referring to us as flukes now of course
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Im not going to refer to it as a fluke
but it gives you something to think about
does it not?
why?
hughes and sabathia are great pitchers.
Hughes is great pitcher?????
its his first full year
he cant be categorized as great. What an insult to the word
At some point
This lineup has to destroy a great pitcher
We cannot keep making that excuse over and over again
we did
see last time vs sabathia. we cant always be expected to
Fine
Then this team is going to get categorized as a fluke by the national media and is not going to be taken seriously until that point
not ALWAYS
but occasionally but lineup seems to come up short against good pitcher and good teams and if they want to advance to the next level they better start hitting the better half of the league
every line up comes up short against good pitching
hence why failing 60-70% of the time is considered acceptable
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
every line up.....really??
dont make sweeping generalizations
The Phils lineup was deadly last year from nearly top to bottom
and cole hamels could suck
and they still picked him up
that is the point!!!!
i saw a tosh.0 episode last night
dedicated entirely to that dude.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
And deadly?
they had two guys with over 650 PA’s with OPS+ in the 80s
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
and binoculars giving them tips from the outfield
dont forget bout that
more for beating 2 horrid teams
and then losing to a great team I guess
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
this series is a different animal...
You can’t make a basis of opinion. Good road trip, Good series… but it would be another occasion where the Yankees forced push for the season series.
Not that it matters to the whole outcome of things.
As far as I’m concerned, that series jumped the shark.
2010: Year of the Grission
We already took 2/3 from that great team earlier in the season
Of course, no one will choose to acknowledge that
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Fuck them.
I see it as kind of a confidence builder, that:
a) they can start to win on the road; and
b) they don’t play down to the level of their competition
Anyone else’s opinion means shit to me.
2010: Year of the Grission
I'd take 4-2
Tigers and Twins are tough
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3-3
Sweep Detroit, swept by Minny
What are the matchups for the Detroit series?
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
Swept by Minny??
The matchups are
Niese vs Verlander
Dickey vs Bonderman
Takahashi vs Galarragga
Pelfrey vs Slowey
Santana vs Pavano
Niese vs Baker
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Tad pessimistic are we?
The Tigers have been feasting off of the underbelly of the NL, and the Twins haven’t played well against the NL East at all this season
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We're 24-10 at home
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yes, and that is great.
however, this is the Tigers and Twins.
not the Indians and Orioles.
don’t get me wrong, I hope I am way off base on this.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
verlander and cabrera scare me
but not too much else
Isn't Heyward Jesus?
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Baseball may be polytheist
Usually, though, fans only worship one “god”
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Haha exactly. Now it's just a matter of figuring it out who has the initiative to do it.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
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Epic fail execution actually gives bonus points.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
but if practice makes perfect
and nobody is perfect, then why bother practicing at all
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
We're a different team at home
We’ve won series against the Dodgers, Giants, Yankees, Phillies, Marlins, Braves, and Padres at home, all who could be considered decent teams
I mean it’s possible, but I don’t think we’re a bad team just because of this series
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we didn't play the indians and orioles at home either
so i don’t see what that has to do with anything
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I think 4-2 is likely
We play well at home and I feel like all of our pitchers give us a chance to win
3-3
maybe 4-2
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"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 20, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm joking about that 1 tie, of course
Copa Mundial fever.
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Jerrybot does not compute. Take less than 3 pitches or you're benched.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
The new software patch sux!
Bunting simulator!? Puh-leeze.
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by sj10689 on Jun 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh. I bet
Cervelli hangs out in LI and Nj clubs with his collar popped, hitting on high school seniors.
I'm chilled out
It just would’ve been really nice to actually win this series
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I don't think she's referring to you
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saying
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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Leave Santana in there.
Don’t blow out the pen.
That would be ironic
His perfect game won somebody $1,000,000!
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For a moment
I thought the Braves traded for Millwood
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Rally time?
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UGH
Of course that just stays in
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Nope
could have taken one more step back instead
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Fernando favorite things:
His kids, and sucking at baseball.
He's getting like
1.5 mil. That’s not really an overpay
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You have a way with words
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Jeez Fernando
take a hack at that pitch
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Sigh
Just hold em down Johan
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This isn't going to end well
They get a fence scraper GS after two infield hits, and we get two warning track flyouts. So it goes.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it's sad that Frenchy has seen more pitches
in an AB than you Tatis
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Some good news
Royals took the lead over Bravos, 5-4
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good...
I keep looking at the box scores everyday thinking they should start showing signs of running on fumes soon.
They're legitimately good
And unfortunately, they’ve got a ton of home games coming up
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speaking of the royals
Zack Grienke is going to go 2-20 with an ERA under 3
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
hopefully that drives the Royals to trade him to us
because of his Winzzz drought
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If it helps
The Binghamton Mets are beating the Yankees AA affiliate 3-2 in the 5th right now and the Thunder are 40-26!
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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
How worried am I allowed to be about Johan?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
Very
He looks no better than he did the 2nd half of last year
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Yeah but
When you got Pelfrey being as good as he is right now (yesterday notwithstanding), Niese coming in on his own, and the surprises of Dickey and Takahashi, not to mention the exile of Maine and OP, you kinda forget about worrying about Johan.
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And questions about the
starting staff going forward as well.
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Very
Decreasing K’s and velocity and increasing BB’s
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He just can't put people away
People aren’t swinging at his changeup anymore
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The velocity difference between the fastball and the change-up is terrifying
That isn’t going to get better as he gets older
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
For this game and this game only, it's not like the offense is helping Johan.
Actually, the offense almost never helped him.
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santana change up value 2004-2008
23.2, 20.5, 26.5, 15.2, 23.7
Santana fastball value 2010: 6
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i was about to say
thats not really a fair comparison. At least its still +6?
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
His changeup value is tied to his fastball effectiveness (control, location, movement)
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his fastball value has remained constant
it looks like there’s not as much of a speed difference between them as there was in previous years. but the difference is like less than a mph. from the pitch f/x page there seems to be a somewhat big difference in the horizontal movement of his fastball though.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
You should be using his numbers per 100 pitch since those are cumulative
04-08:
4.35, 2.80, 3.01, 1.58, 2.33
and in 2010: 1.48
i would use that
except I don’t at all understand what in the world it means.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
is it just rar per 100 of each specific pitch?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
it's how hitters perform vs certain types of pitches
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Mets gotta score soon or people will bail
I’d take quality over quantity anyway
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Announcers LOVE Cano
always have.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
That was Girardi's idea to swing 3-0
Bad idea, I know, trying to get Arod out of a slump, still makes little to no sense
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He swung 3-0 yesterday too
fouled it off IIRC
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So, heard most of the game on the radio so far. Just got home.
How bad has Santana looked?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Tex GS
& he can’t put hitters away again
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My brother said it was barely over the fence.
True?
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Hit the top of the fence and bounced over
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought so on the replay they just showed
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
They'll show 30 more replays by the time the game is over
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
just saw it on the gameday
sterling or whoever the announcer is who says ‘see ya’ got so excited right off the bat – wouldve been funny at citi if it was caught and he had that same reaction off the bat
Just not putting anyone away
tons of baserunners and one meaty pitch to Tex = Santana being a sad panda
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
5 innings, 4 runs
I actually expected a lot worse to be honest
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for all those freaking out about these two games
these hr’s wouldn’t have been so at citi and we might have actually won yesterday. its just a couple of games and we are going home so lets go to citi and become the collective 26th man
yeah mercifully we dont have to play in Yankees Little League field again after this year
it makes CBP look like San Diego
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I'll be representing on Thursday.....
who else is going ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
i wish i could go every game
one day ill have the money to get season tix and ill be sooooo happy
It's the 6th inning
He’s settled in
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Back to Cervelli
Overrated pile of shit. There’s a guy down in Trenton, Austin Romine, who’s even better. His defense is said to be MLB-ready. I say we make a push to trade for him.
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Are you looking for defense or offense?
Montero is the best offensive of the three, but Romine is much better defensively. The Yankees wouldn’t trade them unless they get a top player in return….you want Romine? We wouldn’t mind if you took Arod off our hands and we get Wright, Niese, and Thole (kidding)
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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
Are they really gonna try for Lee?
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offseason maybe if Pettitte retires
other then that, 1-5 there’s really no need in the rotation. It would be a waste of prospects for a rental
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so
From what I can tell the Yankees aren’t goinjg to change their stance on trading prospects AND having to extend the pitcher…they’ll wait for him to hopefully available in the offseason. Unless an ace gets hurt, I seriously doubt they go after him
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NYM/NYY Prospect ranks
035 NYM OF Fernando Martinez
075 NYM RHP Jenrry Mejia
088 NYM 1B Ike Davis
115 NYM SS Wilmer Flores
169 NYM LHP Jon Niese
173 NYM LHP Hisanori Takahashi
176 NYM SS Reese Havens
179 NYM C Josh Thole
184 NYM RHP Bradley Holt
221 NYM RHP Matt Harvey
231 NYM RHP Ryota Igarashi
325 NYM 1B Chris Carter
353 NYM 3B Jefry Marte
010 NYY C Jesus Montero
157 NYY C Austin Romine
166 NYY RHP Andrew Brackman
202 NYY OF Slade Heathcott
241 NYY LHP Manny Banuelos
249 NYY RHP Humberto Sanchez
321 NYY RHP Dellin Betances
329 NYY RHP Mark Melancon
370 NYY RHP Romulo Sanchez
414 NYY RHP Alan Horne
418 NYY RHP Zach McAllister
450 NYY LHP Jeremy Bleich
458 NYY 3B Bradley Suttle
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lol at
Iggy be on the list
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 20, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You seem to love players with big contracts.
We’ll give you Oliver Perez instead.
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Will you take Kei Igawa?
At least he’s willing to go to the minors. Plus, he’s the AAA Scranton Yankees all time winningest pitcher!
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No way
Great hitter and fighter as well
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
As long as A-Rod is there, he won't even sniff the big time.
Might as well let us take him off your hands.
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um an awful start
but showing more power than ever
im not sure he strikes me as a power threat at the big league level though.
he’s been looking better lately in general though. Like to see it last for a bit before i’m thoroughly convinced.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i do stand corrected
didn’t think he was doing that well for some reason.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a .357 wOBA this year
he had a .358 wOBA last year in Binghampton but in like 250 more plate appearances
after batting .172 in april
he hit .323 in may and is at .419 in june
hmm better than i thought
hows his defense looking?
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
damned if i knew
probably would be a bad judge of that for catchers anyway
I think I'm gonna go
I really should be in the Pinstripe Alley game thread right now considering I’m running it today…but wanted to say Happy Fathers Day and hopefully no tensions between me and everyone!
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don't come back
just kidding
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
Thanks for stopping by
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No tension
Happy Fathers Day, and enjoy the game (win or lose)
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You too
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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
hope we've enlightened you as to why Cerivelli is in fact scientifically a douche
Enjoy the rest of the game.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope I've enlightened you on how to spell Cervelli
You too
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"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
The ony one that comes to mind right away
Cevichelli
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It may be hard to spot
Ceviche, as in the seafood. Y’know, he stinks, like fish…
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too classy
first seafood that comes to mind when I think of him is crabs
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
Though, the “…” suggests inside reference. But in any case, I’ll let the people decide
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Wright, you know it's ok to TAKE pitches, right?
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Great
a leadoff double goes to waste
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the mets need to learn the art of chipping away at a lead
too many times they get down and the team just rolls over and dies for the rest of the game. they can’t advance runners, they swing at the first pitch, etc. take your fucking time team, try to at least make it hard for sabathia.
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by Rey-O on Jun 20, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
.
they swing at the first pitch
To quote Gary" “It’s like 9 Jeff Francoeurs out there.”
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HoJo principle: HACK, HACK, and when all else fails, HACK
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he has spent too much time talking to frenchy
the learning is going the wrong way
yeah but they do that in every game
swinging at first pitches. there’s absolutely no patience on this team. Even Luis Castillo hacks away.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
its more excruciating to watch when they are down though
and especially when you are playing the yankees, who are consistently taking pitches and working the pitcher. the mets seem like they want to leave the ballpark as soon as possible when they are down.
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what are you talking about
castillo is one of the hardest batters to strike out in the game?
yeah
but he’s the easiest guy to get to hit a weak ground ball. hacking isn’t about K’s at all. It’s about swinging at bad pitches in general. Whether you make contact or not is irrelevant because more often that not the contact is going to result in an unproductive out.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
His O-Swing
is up 4% & his O-Contact is up 11%. With that, he’s more likely to hit weak grounders as Gina noted.
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Rec. I read somewhere you measure a team not on close games but how it plays in blowout games.
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I read that somewhere
Importantly, however, is which end of the blowout the team is in. You don’t want to be on the broke end of that.
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3-1 Twins over Philly in the 6th
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Eh, not really.
He’s not giving up like 6-7 runs a game yet. Plus, he’s facing AL teams right now.
But yeah, it is a sign of sorts.
2010: Year of the Grission
I thought Roy was gonna go undefeated
because “the Phillies are teh greatz!!!!!” and all that mess.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
thats what I was told
from every sports media outlet
he made the same mistake santana did
he thought he was going to a championship team, really he was going to an inept organization.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
6 innings, 4 runs
That’s not really horrible
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Santana didn't pitch bad
He had that one homer, that’s really it. He was good, but he wasn’t terrible
just like pelf yesterday
hurt by the park more than anything else
Fun Fact going back to the Thole discussion
Josh Thole in 177 PA with Buffalo: .357 wOBA
Jesus Montero in 233 PA with Scranton: .307 wOBA
thole is solid
i wouldnt mind him coming up anytime but blanco and barajas offer that ‘great repertoire’ with the pitchers
Thole's got a few years on Montero tho doesn't he?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
3 years
Montero’s the better (much much much better if he sticks at catcher) prospect, but just thought it was worth noting
true
Thole I think should have a solid career. I hope the Mets figure it out that he can play instead of waiting for the top 3 catchers to get hurt…
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's gonna be the starter next year
He still has to work on his defense and Barajas and Blanco have been great this year.
he's JESUS.
we are ALL related to him right?
RIGHT!
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
eh..
semantics shemantics….
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Player stats
Thole: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=thole-001jos
Montero: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=monter001jes
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And Pena's got MLB bloodlines
what does Montero have other than being much better at hitting baseballs?
Pena also has a catchers body
that’s important
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
the immortal...
Francisco Pena
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Montero is younger than Ruben Tejada
That should say it
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meh, we've gotten to Mo before
we can do it again if necessary.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson valdez has bombs in two straight games
less impressive as every player in yesterday’s phillies/twins games hit a home run, seemingly
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
come on guys
first and second – nobody out. lets fucking go!
At least somebody can take
some pitches. Good job by Bay.
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Horrible call
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Umpire strikes again
I lobby again for robot umpires
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
the bases aren't loaded
this won’t work out well
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
lol @ the announcer not even knowing barajas's name
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
There have definitely been some this season
where the overhead camera shows it off the plate and Pitch fx shows it on.
I remember a year ago on btb
there were some reports about how pitch f/x data was fudged to keep the umps union happy.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i feel like half the things about the umps/umps union
defeats the purpose.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
arent those overhead cameras
slightly off angle? they used to be at least
slim to none
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 20, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
wayne hagan sucks
i know you guys get to watch but cant they just let howie do all the play by play
Great
Tatis has become useless
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we still have some annoying dead weight
see tatis, cora, half the bullpen
And just like that,
the rally is killed.
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Anyone knows how many games we had a +3run lead and lost?
And how many games we were -3 run and won?
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that glorious nats game
is the only one i can think of
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
We came back from 3 runs twice in the last Marlins series
and in the first game of the Indians series
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Checking B-R
When we enter the 7th inning behind in the score, we are 3-19.
Behind in the 8th = 1-21
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That's not good
but I’m going to guess most teams don’t have great records in those situations
And I think we’ve only blown two three run leads this season
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It doesn't say how many runs lead, just ahead or behind.
Not enough info.
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no, at this point its probably safe to assume we'll lose this one
might as well get a moral victory.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i would
except for the fact we’re hacking away like morons
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
were still getting on base some
have faith
lol my fantasy team put is putting up a .167 ops so far
I should have started Bay
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Jerry is not gonna give Mejia the 8th inning role
lets be serious
but he's also never gonna give him up
or let him down, or run around and desert him.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 20, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Shut the fuck up Ron
Acosta is a much better option than Mejia at this point
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He has a great arm
so that’s why he should stay
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TBS announcers claiming Mejia is doing a nice job for the mets
how do they know?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
because he has a 3.33 era
that stat tells all, especially for relievers
i want mejia down at this point too
but hes not at all the worst guy out there. nieve is worse, iggy has been worse, valdez has been worse
that has nothing to do with why he should be down
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i know
but we really do need him out there right now because our bullpen is disastrously put together. still would rather him in the minors starters since he is 20 and has little control
No we don't
Manny Acosta could do Mejia’s job just fine
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yea
but what bout nieve, iggy, valdez… they need to be replaced or figured out
Valdes = 3.20 FIP
Mejia = 4.93 FIP
Iggy = 6.76 FIP
Nieve = 5.49 FIP
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yea but valdes hasnt pitched really since those awful outings
it could be ballooned if he was allowed to
really just have those san diego memories stuck in my head
since then he has only had two appearances – one shutdown against the o’s and one not great against the yanks
just saying
having him out there gives us 4 guys we should be able to trust – not like he is treated like that. helps the mets as an organization more in the minors, i agree
then i don't understand at all what you're saying
1. they don’t trust him
2. he helps the team more in the minors
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
im saying if youre looking at this 2010 team
we would need him out there because iggy and nieve are much bigger concerns right now. but that i still would want him in the minors because i am not just looking at this 2010 team
He's of way more importance
to the future of this team than they are. The Mets will still have SP questions next year, he’s too important to be mopping up.
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He has a great arm
But he’s not helping anything. GKR’s(& Burkhardt, but that’s to be expected) covering of Manuel is infuriating.
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lol these tbs announcers are morons
they’re talking about the sissy AL pitchers who can’t swing a bat
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I have stuff I need to get out and do
But a 4 run deficit has been just enough to keep me in. Annoying.
Is the color guy eric karros?
He’s a dullard
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, it's eckersley
that’ explains it
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
CC is gonna get a shutout
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Can't say the mets didn't have their chances
they just chose to swing at everyhing and pop out or GIDP whenever someone was on base
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to give some credit to CC though
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Of course you do
I just didn’t like the approach. You get the lead off man on every inning and hack away turning every inning into an easy one
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Some credit yes
but this is beyond ridiculous
im not sure
we swing at everything against everyone
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
We've been shutout once this year
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Err, twice
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
we're also in the bottom of the league in runs scored
we’re still a below average team offensively
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Never said we weren't
But that’s what happens when you start Francoeur and Barajas on a daily basis
Reyes, Pagan, Wright, Bay are still decently patient hitters.
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Given the current talent we have on the field (minus the usual Cora), it's more troubling their approach at the plate than "lack of talent" itself.
Just looking at our lineup today, it’s not bad. Though their aggressiveness at the plate is obvious.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
well really Bay, Reyes, and Wright
maybe Davis I don’t know much about his swing tendencies in the minors, are the only ones you would expect to not hack away.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
yeah you're right its absurd
i just looked up o-swing rates. everyone is up like 7-10%. Makes no sense.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Isn't the rate up all around baseball?
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That rain came outta nowhere
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
I think the Cleveland game strengthed their stupid resolve to swing at everything
all those should have been outs turned into hits, and now they’re like obsessed with putting balls in play…more so than they were before.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Man, I'm sad you said this.
Kind of like discussing a no-hitter in the 7th.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well dont know if this rain is going anywhere so pool time
ah i love south carolina weather
every fucking day, feels like 102 right now (according to weather.com)
also south carolina is the worst state in the union. Unless you live in the greenville area then he’s up in he mountains almost.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Not South Carolina!
It’s not like they have a completely unqualified dude running for Senate among other things.
It was 103 when I was driving through central GA a few days ago.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
central georgia is where i live
it’s 102 with a storm coming in.
yes even when it’s pouring down raining it’s 100 degrees. have you ever sweated while it was raining (and you were outside). it’s a perplexing experience.
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I live in the Keys and spent last summer on the Panhandle
I have that experience every day this time of year. But yeah Georgia has it’s own special kinda heat.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
where in the panhandle
i lived there outside of Destin for a few years
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PCB.
Away from the spring breakers. The nice part with the beautiful beach and little vomiting.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's brutal
It was like 85 yesterday and I wanted to kill myself playing basketball. 103, I wouldn’t even leave the house
The ocean here is warmer than that.
This is how hot it is.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Does CW/PIX have any watchable shows?
Buffy was awesome, they had Veronica Mars for a year, and haven’t had anything since.
by Evan_S on Jun 20, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Who didn't like Buffy back in the day?
It wasn’t so great towards the end, but the first few seasons were epic. It makes having LOGO worthwhile.
They had Everybody
Hates Chris for a while.
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Oh I guess not.
I switched over the discover how I could make recession proof profits from home, as related by that guy who looks like he should be heading up a high school drama club, and when I came back they were discussing Ubaldo Jiminez.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillies lose 4-1
Complete game four hitter for Carl Pavano
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Washed up pitcher with an ERA approaching 8...
Omar is probably already on the phone with his agent.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
lol after the grand slam
this thread really died down
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I was at the beach when that happened.
Then had lunch and watched an iguana run around. Am now trying to keep the fire alive.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone tell me how Jorge Sosa pitched for 9 years?
Look at his statline. A lot of better pitchers were kicked to the curb during this time.
I've never heard of this mariano river guy
hopefully the announcers can fill me in
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 20, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah he looks like he has some good stuff, but might need some polishing.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah,
back in spring Jerry said all Mejia needed was his fastball. He told him to stop throwing his secondary pitches too.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Well that sucked
Still, a 7-2 road trip is excellent
Now let’s go home and kick some ass
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Yeah, I don't think anyone...
would have been disappointed if you told them 2 weeks ago that this would end 7-2.
by MookieTheCat on Jun 20, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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