Mets Daily Farm System Report - 6/22: One Down, 469 To Go
by Rob Castellano on Jun 22, 2010 10:00 AM EDT
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PrintNew York Mets Daily Farm System Report - Results from the night of Monday, June 21, 2010
The Usual Suspects
AAA - Buffalo (36-33)
- RF Fernando Martinez: 1-5, K (.252/.295/.420)
- LF Lucas Duda: 1-3, RBI, BB (.222/.276/.407) Strange numbers considering he's hit in 6 of his 7 Triple-A games so far
- C Josh Thole: 0-2, 2 BB (.278/.363/.449)
- CF Jorge Padilla: 0-4, BB
- SS Justin Turner: 3-4, BB (.284/.355/.386) I know he's not significant long term but I'm certainly not upset that we picked him up thus far
- SP Dylan Owen: 5 IP, 6 ER , 9 H, 0 BB, 3 K, 0 HR (3-3, 6.39, 38 IP, 48 H, 16 BB, 30 K, 3 HR) He just doesn't have the stuff to survive more advanced hitters
- RP Roy Merritt: 1 IP, 0 ER, 0 H, 0 BB, 1 K; Nice bounceback
AA - Binghamton (34-35)
- Night Off
- Join the B-Mets tomorrow for a 'Salute to Boy Bands Night' at NYSEG Stadium; watch the tasteful, yet understated video preview here.
Hi-A - St. Lucie (31-34)
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Game 1
- 1B Stefan Welch: 1-3 (.301/.359/.466)
- 2B Jordany Valdespin: 1-3, K, E(13) (.306/.359/.400)
- SS Wilfredo Tovar: 1-4, 2 K (.276/.309/.343)
- RF Joey August: 0-3 (.306/.365/.397)
- SP Jeurys Familia: 6.2 IP, 1 ER (1 unearned), 4 H, 3 BB, 7 K, 1 HR, 2 WP, 2 HBP (0-4, 6.16, 49.2 IP, 50 H, 32 BB, 49 K, 2 HR) Probably his best start of the season; despite the poor totals that 2.00 GB/FB rate gives me some hope Game 2
- Makeup from 4/18 was postponed due to rain (again), expect a double dip probably tomorrow
- Look for Calos Beltran to start rehab games in PSL this Thursday!
Lo-A Savannah (42-28)
- SAL All-Star Break - The Gnats hunt for the second half title begins Thursday
- Let me just say congrats to the Gnats for an impressive and extremely entertaining first half; watch the highlights, celebrations and some coach/player reactions from Sunday night's clincher here.
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SS-A Brooklyn (3-0)
- CF Darrell Ceciliani: 1-4, 3B, R, K (.278/.500/.900) Watch video of that triple here
- RF Cory Vaughn: 2-3, 3B, HR(1), 2 RBI, 3 R, BB, K (.188/.278/.500) Connected on the Cyclones first bomb of the season, watch it here
- 1B Jeff Flagg: 0-4, K (.375/.444/.500)
- SP Wes Wrenn: 6 IP, 2 ER, 6 H, 1 BB, 6 K; The stout righty out of the The Citadel looked very solid tonight; wouldn't be surprised if this '09 35th rounder turned into another pleasant late-round surprise a la Dillon Gee, Tobi Stoner, etc.
RK - GCL Mets (1-0)
- DH Robbie Shields: 0-3, BB; The '09 3rd rounder from DII Fla. Southern played last year at Brooklyn so I wouldn't expect him around these parts for long
- CF Tillman Pugh: 0-0, HBP, left game; Ultra toolsy, ultra raw 2010 15th rounder certainly started the season off on the wrong foot, no word on how serious an injury
- SS Randoll Santana: 2-3, RBI, R, SB(1); Stole 47 bases in just 67 games in the DSL last year while batting .281
Star of the Night
In only his 3rd professional appearance, tonight RF Cory Vaughn is the star. A nice 2-for-3 with a triple and his first professional bomb, not too shabby; only 469 more to catch dad. THIS is why you sign early and get your ass on the field. Seriously, tons of credit to Vaughn who could have just as easily held out for more money and as the son of a pretty notable big leaguer, would anyone have even batted an eye? Kyle Drabek anyone? Either way, this 2010 4th rounder out of SD State (yes, he played with Strasburg) is definitely an ineresting player and though he didn't put up gaudy numbers in college, he's certainly worth keeping an eye on.
Goat of the Night: I'm going with St. Lucie 2B Jordany Valdespin tonight. He probably doesn't deserve it as he had one of the few hits for the Mets and everyone is allowed to make errors now and then but the starter Familia had kept their anemic offense in the game all night long and really could have used some support late in this one. Instead Valdespin put him squarely behind the 8-ball and so I declare that he gets the horns.
System Roundup
- The Bisons lost their third straight tonight in the opener of their series with Gwinnett, 7-2. It was their third straight game giving up 7 or more runs while scoring 3 or less. That's pretty indicative of the way they've played lately, poor pitching and weak hitting. In this one, RHP Dylan Owen was roughed up early and when he did straighten things out and retire 10 straight going into the 5th, he was pulled for a pinch hitter as Manager Ken Oberkfell was forced to pounce on a rare run-scoring opportunity (which obviously didn't work out). The offense really didn't get anything going tonight; suddenly the IL's most potent lineup is littered with washed up waiver fodder and is performing accordingly.
- A pretty good one from RHP Jeurys Familia (finally) was wasted as the Mets lost to the Marauders 3-2. Though effectively wild, Familia deserved better as he'd allowed only a single run into the 7th when his defense failed him and Pirates '09 first rounder Tony Sanchez drove the runner in. Aside from a single scoring chance the St. Lucie bats never really threatened in this one.
- The Cyclones kept the undefeated dream alive winning their home opener 5-2 against Lehigh Valley last night. Brooklyn jumped out early with a couple of firsts as CF Darrell Ceciliani tallied Brooklyn's first triple of the season and RF Cory Vaughn followed with the 'clones first bomb of the year. RHP Wes Wrenn quickly gave up 2 runs to tie it up but settled down and kept the Iron Birds off the board with the help of some sterling defense in center by the aforementioned Ceciliani. Strangely the Cyclones managed a total of 5 runs on only 4 hits.
- The Rookie-level Kingsport Mets season kicks off tomorrow night against the Johnson City Cardinals. Click here for a breakdown of the K-Mets Opening Day roster which is highlighted by a host of 2010 draft picks including upper round pitchers RHP Jeff Walters (6th round), RHP Ken McDowell (8th) and RHP Jacob Dagrom (9th). On the offensive side a couple players to watch are '08 2nd rounder CF Javier 'Junior' Rodriguez as well as highly touted '08 IFA 3B Aderlin Rodriguez.
- The GCL Mets beat the Marlins 3-2 in their opener last night. Toolsy 2010 15th rounder CF Tillman Pugh's first 5 minutes as a pro were less than ideal: He led off the game with a HBP and had to leave; that sucks. Tonight the highly touted LHP Juan Urbina makes his pro debut.
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"THIS is why you sign early and get your ass on the field."
I don’t understand. With very little chance that most draftees will make the ML let alone stick there, the draft bonus may be the there only payday, so I dont really have a problem with them letting things go to the deadline if they feel they are worth more. Since some have said Vaughn was taking early and Vaughn signed so early, I’m inclined to believe that Vaughn and the Mets had an agreement regarding his bonus. I guess one could argue that playing short season rookie ball will improve there chances of being a major leaguer but I don’t think that’s been proven and I would think most players are keeping themselves in shape while others might need some rest. I think I’m just missing what you were trying to say Rob.
Just a point
But if you truly believe that you are going to make it to the majors, why wouldn’t you want to get out there and play? If you make it to the majors faster, then you will make more money faster, and therefor the extra 100K you made early will be made up much faster and moreso.
Yeah I don't really see what evidence there is in regards to short season ball
even with some of our most recent drafts short season ball hasn’t really played much of a role as far as how quickly players got here. Davis was terrible and he’s in the majors now. Holt dominated and he’s bordering on non prospect status, just for two big name examples. And I really can’t think of anyone from last years class, or 2007, who’s short season play impacted their prospect status for more than just short-term.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
also as the son of a minor leaguer
i am sure he is not needing that extra security that other players might lack
well this is just an impatient fan's point of view
from the player’s perspective, i completely understand it. long-term it probably makes much more sense to hold out a little longer for a few extra bucks, i get that. i mean at the very least you’ve got to pay the bills while you’re in the minors somehow and you’re certainly not going to do it on their salary.
it’s just a pain in the ass for us on this side of things. which is why it was a pleasant surprise how quickly vaughn signed. now he didn’t actually put up great numbers in college so chances are that that we reached on him, knowing that he’d sign for slot quickly but still, it’s just nice to see from an immediate gratification point of view. aside from all that, i don’t think it hurts in the eyes of the organization if you sign right away and start performing immediately.
by Rob Castellano on Jun 22, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha,
Yeah, from a fan point of view, esp. fans that follows the draft and minors as closely as the ML team, it’s nice to do research on who’s in the draft, see who we get, then get to watch them play all in less than a month.
still there has to be some benefit to signing right away
instead of just working out and stressing over the signing part. Less so maybe for a pitcher, but especially for a position player who shouldn’t need as much rest and could benefit from coaching immediately. Even pitchers though, take Steven Matz, who knows when the injury occurred – maybe Ward Melville just wanted a winning team and pushed him too hard (only lax was good or popular when I went there), maybe he was playing too much catch while waiting to sign – either way, if this injury occurred last summer he could be playing at some point this summer. Now, two summers after his senior season he won’t have pitched for the team that drafted him – not good
More than that
Getting pro-ball experience right after you get drafted can be a pretty big advantage. I’d say more for prep players than college ones, but being a minor leaguer is a completely different experience than before. Getting used to travel, wood bats, etc. You often see guys who don’t sign until late start slowly in their first full year of pro ball.
Vaughn is slugging just .111?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 22, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions
nope
those were his numbers from before yesterday’s game, fixed that. the problem was that it seems like the NYPL doesn’t update their numbers directly after the games like the rest of the leagues (at least they haven’t so far), instead it gets done at some time well past midnight and i don’t get a chance to update the numbers when i’m writing up the reports.
by Rob Castellano on Jun 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah, there is is.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 22, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
we mentioned this
on a day-to-day basis we probably won’t update them much as we’re literally talking about 16yr olds but we’ll definitely do some look-ins and mention anything that warrants attention
by Rob Castellano on Jun 22, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree,
there are some pretty significant players on the GCL Mets, such as Robbie Shields.
you're right
i’ll make sure to cover the GCL on at least a semi-regular basis since, though some of them will probably be gone in the next few weeks, there are more interesting names than i remembered seeing when i first checked out the GCL roster. aside from the college guys like greene, tillman pugh, dylan brown and the rehabbing nick carr, you’ll see highly touted lefty juan urbina down there as well as the hard-throwing eduardo aldama and big georgia lefty zack dotson. i updated this report with the GCL mets’ first game of the season last night.
the DSL is still tough as there are like literally 30+ dominican kids with little or no experience so i’m going to leave that one alone for the most part.
by Rob Castellano on Jun 22, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Urbina pitched today actually
5 IP, 0 runs 2 hits, 1 walk, 3 Ks, 5 ground outs to 4 fly outs.
This kid was born in 1993. That’s absurd.
but damn vaughn hit that bomb the other way!!
and those jersey they were wearing are freaking awesome
Familia
the peripherals look pretty good… obviously the walk rate is too high but hes striking out batters, keeping the ball in the park and keeping the ball on the ground
I’m calculating his xFIP right now under the assumption that 35 of his hits allowed have been in the air
((101*0.11)13 + 323-49*2)/49.66
144.43 + 96 – 98 / 49.66
It comes out to 2.87 unweighted
sorry this is wrong
his xFIP comes out to 4.86 with weights.
by METSMETSMETS on Jun 22, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
wrong AGAIN
this is embarrasing
FINAL CALCULATIONS:
xFIP: 5.06
FIP: 3.68
by METSMETSMETS on Jun 22, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
i am kind of confused here by your lines of math in that first post
obviously, the second doesn’t have parenthesis, but that could yield 2.87 if they were there, but with the first one i keep getting something in the 7’s
I guess its the weights
I used the MLB standard 3.2 weight but the FSL is extremely pitcher friendly so i guess they use 3.9
by METSMETSMETS on Jun 23, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
also, the cyclones lost already...
and owen and stoner looking like future major league bullpen guys
Nice opposite field power from Vaughn
he is already ahead of Ike Davis’ pace, ha-ha. But what the hell is up with those tie-dye jerseys? Hideous.
as i said above
thought they were awesome. they selling those?
Hey Rob, or maybe Alex
Any word on this Gilbert Gomez kid on the GCL Mets? He turned 18 in March, but last year, in the DSL, in 68 games and 239 AB, he stole 35 bases in 42 tries, and had 50 walks compared to 59 strikeouts. That’s a high strikeout percentage, but that’s also a crazy high walk percentage. Overall his line was .268/.403/.385 with only 15 2Bs, 2 3Bs, and 3 homers, but it’s always nice to see a young guy who knows how to take a walk.
to be honest
i’d only seen his name in box scores and don’t know any more about him than you do. he definitely sounds like the type of guy that we’ll end up featuring on a pretty regular basis though.
unfortunately theres not much coverage of GCL players and even less for the DSL.
by Rob Castellano on Jun 22, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that sucks
He went 2-4 with a double and 3 RBIs today. Walks is always the first column I look at for prospects, so it’s nice to see such a large number for once.
He looks like a 2-true-outcomes batter.
Also, we have a RHP Pedro P. Martinez in the Cyclones
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
I think an 18 year old will add power
And probably get better strike zone judgment. Still way too early to make any judgment on the type of player he is.
That many walks matched with those strikeout and power numbers,
gives me the feeling that he’s relying on the pitcher to make a mistake rather than working the count but I’m clearly just guessing. But like you said still too early.
he sounds like the kind of guy we'll use as a throw in a big trade
</end bitter over Carrerra>
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
hes not afraid to run
wonder how that will change as he moves up as well as i am guessing the catchers he is running against aren’t very good/experienced
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