Open Thread: Mets vs Marlins, 6/6/2010
by Eric Simon on Jun 6, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
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I hope we hit Chris Coghlin again for Tejada
I really kind of dislike him now after seeing his wacked out Twitter
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
He has the right to whatever beliefs he has
but there’s very little tackier than the “2009 NATIONAL LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR” thing he has.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
lolololol
on espn they’re talking about how heart breaking Griffey Jr leaving is because no one’s ever played with such joy and excitement and love for the game and no one in the league today plays with that same love and everyone else treats it like work rather than fun and how that passion is missing for the game now…
i facepalmed.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I'll give them Griffey was a special player
and its weird to think of him not in baseball, but the statement is still inane nonetheless
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate how they make a sentiment like that (nothing against Jr - I was a big fan)
Then turn around and say how Reyes should “grow up” or is immature. Most extreme example here: http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/Jose_Reyes_Is_A_Classless_Jive_Immature_Tool/294875
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Indenting = not grissiony
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that was exactly my point
the same people whining about the joy of baseball being gone hate Jose.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I mean, I see the point
That’s a big part of why i liked him as a kid. But also because of the “being really good at baseball” thing.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
What has happened to that network, particularly its baseball coverage?
It was once the place to go for intelligent analysis.
What happened?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
you can't contain stupid eventually it's going to contaminate everything
especially when you employ john kruck.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
john kruk is like a plaguebearer of stupid
its contagious,incurable, and destroys anything that comes in contact with it.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
for basebal MLBN is the only way to go
for other sports, MLBN is less effective.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I only watch MLBN and NHLN at this point.
I go to the Interwebz for general sports news.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
are these shaping up to be the best weeks of the Mets 2010 season??
Can it get any better than this?
DohP finally nursing fake injury.
Ike!
Project GetMatthewsJettisoned is a success.
Knuckeballs!
Took series from Yanks and Phils recently
Ya Baby!!
In July, we may be wistfully remembering this portion of the season.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Those steps are encouraging but we need MOAR
MOAR Aminal against RHP
MOAR Mejia starting in the minors
MOAR Dubs AB higher in the lineup
MOAR Tejada (and no Cora)
and finally LESS Jerryball.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
uh oh
i’m assuming you guys arent referencing this guy:
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
ah shit Fish Feed
they’re IN NY yet I have to suffer Fox Florida’s chuckleheads? where is the justice Mlb “Extra innings” package?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I finally broke down and gave them the extra 20 for RKG
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
how do you mean?
a bunch of other games are home and away, to add insult to injury
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
You can pay an additional $20 to get home team broadcasts
damned if I can remember the name of the package though.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
the only things he's struggled against is giving up homeruns?
isn’t that kind of a big deal?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I read that as a disproportionate number of his FBs are leaving the yard
too much credit?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
yeah it's right at his career rate
but his xFIP is still below 4 so it looks like he’s suffering from bad defense.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
what.....
20 year old Tejada can’t play 2 days in a row ?
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jun 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
somebody's gotta be ready to inappropriately pinch bunt at a moments notice
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
But Cora's starting!
I thought that was his job.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't
Get much worse then having a marlins pregame and announcers.
by Longislandnole on Jun 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
PIX
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Thank you, good sirs.
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit. I dont think I get the game.
Because we aren’t technically in the NYC market area, but not it Buffalo either… So pix = “TWCS” which was showing local minor league baseball, which is being rained out. So I’m watching MMA….
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's to Tak2 missing some bats today
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
jerry is worried that if Tejada gets stretched out to play everyday
his defensive mechanics will break down.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
gotta keep the sample size small
to maximize the boost to rate stats during hot streaks
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Jerry had better taste in bench players
but I like the fact that Jerry gives his key bench player a game per week. If this were Murph or Tejada on the team rather than Cora it would appear more sound.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I think the problem is
he doesn’t give his key bench players those starts. He gives his worst bench players those starts. Tatis and Carter can’t buy a plate appearance at this point let alone a start.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Yes, exactly...
no accounting for his wretched taste in bench players, but the approach (i.e., getting them consistent ABs) is sound.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Whu the fuck is Cora playing?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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No way they play this whole game
there’s a damn tornado watch here in Staten Island
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
The entire NE has a Tornado Watch...
crazy shit. http://www.weather.gov/
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.
yup got one here too
and we’re supposed to get hammered with thunderstorms this afternoon.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Taki Time!
"Great story. Compelling, and rich." ~ Ron Burgundy
"...and Gary Cooper slides into second base with a stand up double." ~ Ralph Kiner
K
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Christ said....
Grab some pine and learn how to slide
yeah but he's not the best source of baseball advice.
he can’t hit a curveball
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good start for Tak
A K & 2 popups
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
thats exactly what Jerry wants to see in his lead off hitter
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Nice camera work there Bobbo
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Kiner's Korner
has begun!
"Great story. Compelling, and rich." ~ Ron Burgundy
"...and Gary Cooper slides into second base with a stand up double." ~ Ralph Kiner
That's what I'm doing.
Indiana + no job = only option
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thrilling stuff, isn't it.
Actually AB’s pretty cool. Nothing like gameday
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it a lot more
Though sometimes the Gameday Audio doubles up and I can’t figure out where the second stream is coming from. The echo is annoying as hell.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how the "nasty meter" of pitches is measured, but I like it.
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Disl Ike
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dubs single
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DW with a single to left
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
This lightning strikes far more than twice
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Wincoeur strikes again
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FRENCHY
"Great story. Compelling, and rich." ~ Ron Burgundy
"...and Gary Cooper slides into second base with a stand up double." ~ Ralph Kiner
LOL they're walking Cora
and Wright should have been sent
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Hale held him
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I'm seriously waiting for
Jerry to call for a sac bunt with two outs.
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Do it
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/04/10/moneyball-kc-style/
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Bagh
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Meh
rather play it safe and at least clear the pitcher. If Wright is thrown out you don’t get the run AND you don’t clear the pitcher.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
What's the deal?
Has Frenchy just run into some extraordinary BABIP luck?
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
His LD% is ridiculously low, even for him
Maybe it’s starting to pick up
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He does at least seem to be laying off the high pitch
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
BABIP for the season is .285
Perhaps it was the opposite? I haven’t looked at splits yet.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant
The last ten games or so
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Just tuned in
awful decision making by Chip Hale. Its a no-brainer that you send Wright there
Yup
Although everyone gets a mulligan; Hale’s generally been very solid this year.
by dontstopbelieving on Jun 6, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
can you imagine how awesome we'd be if we have the marlins patience
and scouting staff?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
What if we had their payroll?
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
then Oliver perez would be our only player
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If we had their payroll, we would never have signed Ollie to that ridiculous contract.
Having a small payroll generally keeps you from giving out stupid contracts… like K-Rod’s.
yeah its weird
all our payroll seems to do is allow us to do more stupid
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
well then we'd just be the marlins
I meant us with some of one of the best scouting teams in the majors. And a front office who lets them, and the development staff and ours is pretty top notch, actually do their jobs.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Wonder if he can play SG?
How’s his range from 15 to 18 feet?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
lmao I was thinking that
he should have gone to Carolina for basketball with his length
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
to get him more fastballs, of course.
just ask Jerry
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
To get him the most at bats
it’s actually not that crazy
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i understand that
But the two hitters immediately ahead of him are cameron maybin and the pitcher..
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Pics or it didn't happen
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU LIE!!!
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
whichever one it is needs to commit seppuku
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hanshiro Tsugumo wishes he could
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you should checkout A Bloody Spear at Mt. Fuji
it’s similar but much better than Harakiri
by secret defense on Jun 6, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes Tak2 is Glavine-like in his unwillingness to challenge hitters
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Tak2 doesn't nibble nearly as much as Glavine did
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Of course, then he goes right at Coughlin
bastard. :)
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Oh, and no one could nibble AS MUCH has Glavine
he is the patron saint of the nibble.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Jermaine Allensworth
once won it, to keep things in perspective.
by dontstopbelieving on Jun 6, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember
When he was on the mets?
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
KK
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You'll end up with a Bob Gibson story
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not to hear old guys
who can accept that change can be good.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
It's not good to hear such sloppy reasoning for supporting the commissioner's decision
I have no issue with people who support Selig’s call. I disagree, but that’s not a big deal.
I honestly don’t get this whole “It’s even more special this way” stuff. What happened the next day with Galarraga and Joyce the next day was fantastic, a great moment. But it’s totally unrelated to the commissioner’s decision to let the call stand. Selig reversing the call would have not taken away from the graciousness Galarraga and Joyce displayed.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
im with ya
sure the game is still historic, but Galarraga still doesn’t get on the list of perfect games. I get why they didn’t reverse it, but come on, stop trying to sugarcoat what it was, a horrible mistake.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
and it has nothing to do with replay either
since any replay rule would not be used for that type of play. You can be for or against replay but that game should have no effect on your viewpoint
I can see it being used on force plays like this one was
but i’ve been for replay the last couple of years after some of the horrific officiating i’ve seen, so this hasn’t suddenly convinced me.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
FUDGE
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i think the wind helped that hr
It’s gotta decide whose side it’s on.
by hotspur on Jun 6, 2010 2:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I thought that would be one of those long flyballs to the warning track.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
So did Bay
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
KKK
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They can rebuild him. They have the technology
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please lets just move on from the idea of main in the rotation
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i can't imagine he goes back to starting
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Maine in the Bullpen however..
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys I just finished
Casting Ballots for the All Star I wrote in Ike Davis for first base. is that AWESOME?
every night you get a pitcher who might go more than 3 innings
that’s good enough for me
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Wow, what a dick
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seriously
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Wright threw a ball to a kid, but a fat guy reached out and took it before the kid could get it
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Oh Lord.
What an asshole that fat guy is
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
my friend to his daughter to yesterday's game
(her first game ever)…….they were by tha black monster during BP, and Elmer Dessens threw a ball to them……he told me today that was the longest 2 seconds of his life……..
along the lines of " God, please don’t let me fuck up in front of my daughter"
LOL.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
That happened to me in Cincy once
Rick Reed threw a ball to my dad in the upper deck of Riverfront. It was awesome.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Lovers gonna love
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I DONT REALLY WANT
none of the above i want to piss on you
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jun 6, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
R. Kelly? Is that you?
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"How you gonna make a video about pissing on people?"
“How YOU gonna make a video about pissing on people?”
at least he gave it to another kid.
but it is lame
The ripple effect of one random act of douchebaggery
sigh
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
i don't know how that hitch in tak's delivery is legal
Combined with the hook he’s got, i’m surprised more guys don’t fall on their face.
Also, dub should go over there and pound that fool who snatched the ball.
by hotspur on Jun 6, 2010 2:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That guy's anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_faInfFMtr4
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
EVERYONE!!!
Vite ike Davis into the all star game PLEASEEE
please stop
not only does Ike not belong in the all star game but internet stuff the box type voting is lame
naw i think we should combine to vote in pujols
to make sure Howard doesn’t get it over him.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
but...
I already wasted my votes….
:( we should all organize and make a plan next time
by HELLYEAHGARYOAK on Jun 6, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright is en fuego right now
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Muy en fuego
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you lost your feed
My feed is fine
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damnit lost feed again
what the hell am I paying you for cable company
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a tornado destroyed the Albany satellite dish
they’ve showing a snowboarding blooper video instead
this blows
Kiner met with silence
crickets
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
It was a Grampa Simpson moment
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I chased that rascal for dickety six miles
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 6, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I had an onion on my belt
which was the style at the time…
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Wright should stand on top of the plate and look to pull more
I can’t believe he’s more interested in base hits than homeruns
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
great baserunning by DW
taking advantage of Maybin’s ineptitude.
and now they pitch to Coar here
not sure why when they walked him in the same spot previously.
Cora fail
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Doesn't Nolasco kill us?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Ok my feed has been officially replaced by a show called "the lighter side of sports"
i feel like i’m in the twilight zone here
I wonder how many times someone other than chris carter
will DH
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
How many games are we playing with DH?
That number, plus seven.
Tatis against LHP, because batter handedness is all that matters.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
No i mean Frenchy is in the line ups against righties regardless.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
About 35 miles west of NY, the world is coming to an end
it will be over my house in about 20 minutes.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
From a NYPost article about trading for Cliff Lee, one of the comments:
“I was willing to give Perez a chance this year. I really was. If you look at his stats and compare them to Nolan Ryan at the same point in his career, they are very similar pitchers, in fact, Perez wasn’t quite as wild as Nolan. When he’s “on” he can be almost unhittable, but when he’s “off” he gives the team absolutely no chance to win. Just like Ryan in the late 60’s and early 70’s.
But Perez is too much of a headcase. Moreso than Ryan."
Very similar except that whole
leading the league in Innings Pitched, SO thrice, SO/9 thrice, Hits/9, and having an ERA+ of 111 as opposed to 91 through his first nine seasons. (Ollie has pitched 9 seasons if that wasn’t obvious)
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
lolololololwut
and I don’t understand why people don’t get that when Perez was on his fastball was hitting in the 92-94 area. That’s not going to magically come back.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I didn't know
Scott Boras was a commenter on NY Post articles.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Wait i thought he was Sandy Koufax
Now he’s nolan ryan too
I Believe in 80 wins
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 6, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If he was Sandy Koufax
At least he wouldn’t pitch on saturdays….
/sarcasm (just to be sure)
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
by Jsz on Jun 6, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
KKKKK
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Oh Frenchy, you mad, impetuous thing you
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
If someone who doesn't have feed now ends up getting feed please let me know.
Thank you.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
looks like
now they’re just mocking us
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Giving us commercials when we don't deserve them.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
at least pagans fast enough that thats not a dp
unlike certain other frequent #2 hitters.
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Rolph Kliner
we couldn’t afford the real guy today
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
in my defense the k and l keys are right next to each other
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
good eye Bay
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
oui
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
its an unwritten rule
therefore we must abide by it
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Next thing we know, you're going to start talking about Nick Evans again
We all know he’s not real.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 6, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
so you're saying you're not real
how existential
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i say if he lasts the month with no injury
call him up
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
if your a david in the mets organization
you are currently mashing the ball
I hate Philadelphia so much.
thus we're renaming everyone in the org David
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
with the lunatics in management i'd believe it
D.reyes
d.bay
d.castillo
d.francouer
d.pagan
d.santos
d.davis
d.wright
d.santana
I hate Philadelphia so much.
Terrible AB by Ike
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eh
there are better 2b options out there.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he seems like a solid effort guy.
Plays hard…could use more of that in the clubhouse
I hate Philadelphia so much.
yeah, because they don't play hard
loafing losers
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i'd rather we had more talent in the clubhouse
also he seems like kind of a douche
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
so you're saying we shoudl sign Uggla for our booth?
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
and put Keith at second
he probably has more range than Cora and Castillo
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Keith is awesome
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
He can do whatever he wants. He’s Keith Hernandez.
by Evan_S on Jun 6, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+10000
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
we already have Francoeur
and what, Wright, Reyes etc don’t play hard?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
so why do we need more people
just because they play hard?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
im pretty sure talent gets you wins
not being bad with intensity
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, because sliding head first into first base
is really the difference
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also, do you really think professionals don't play hard?
I mean for fuck sakes, they don’t take money and run away with it, except for maybe Ollie.
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i kind of agree
but he’s gotta bring his own stash of eyeblack
he puts so much on that he looks like the lone ranger
they've rubbed me the wrong way since 1997.
the last few years is gas on the fire
I hate Philadelphia so much.
Why is Cora playing?
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Crapola
2-0 Fish
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Cantu RBI
2-0 Florida
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THEN WHY ISN'T HE IN THE FUCKING MINOR LEAGUES?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
don't man
it’ll destroy you to think about it
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But he'll
only pitch 1 inning again.
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no clutch hitting, no consistency
3-0 final today
Stop watching then
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Bad play by Jose
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FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
Game
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Motherfucker
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Why leave him in to face Ross???
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I assume thats because Tak hasn't been playing hard enough
amirite?
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Sucks for Tak2
he’d been cruising til now
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both on 0-2 counts
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It's now mop up time
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wasn't even a bad pitch
up and in fastball … he just turned on it and it carried out i guess
He only threw
8 pitches though.
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I guess I should go and study for finals or something
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yeah, but my grade doesn't
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
this field is a fucking mess
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thats good
it means people are coming to the park, enjoying the game.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I lobby them to sell food without any paper/plastic to cover.
They’ll prepare it and you’ll get it barehanded, no napkins or anything.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Wow, why is there so much trash on the field??
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theres a bunch near 2nd base....
oh wait…..thats Alex Cora.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.
Please don't let Minaya notice this item in today's paper:
Baseball Notes: Nats release Coste
The Washington Nationals have released former Phillies catcher Chris Coste to make space for Jamie Burke, who moved up from triple-A Syracuse on Saturday.
Does the organization need some depth at AA?
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jun 6, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions
Chris Coste had Tommy John surgery a couple of months ago
Goodbye Sir Dr. Sen. Brain SOCKS! D.D.S.R.S.V.P
The Mets don't deserve to be called that
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how did he show heart ffs?
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DUBS
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it'd be nice if someone competent was hitting behind David
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DON'T DISRESPECT BARAJASAURUS
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He has 10 HRs this year you idiot
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don't feed the trolls
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need more from our supposed "best player"
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TRAID DAVID WROGN!
He should be 5-3 instead of 3-3. That’s poor David.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Three hits
is still pretty damn good. Not to mention the bomb he hit yesterday.
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TRAYD DAVID WRONG 4 CHRIS DAVIS!!!!
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GRISSIONZ
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He got a pitch
just got it off the end of the bat
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Grission infinity
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Bases loaded for
THE ANIMAL!
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blooper!
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THE ANIMAL STRIKES!
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TEH AN1MAL!!!!!
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Marlins bullpen in
We have a chance
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Gonzalez goes to the pin after 82 pitches
That’s a Whitey Herzog-worthy hook
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What the fuck Jose
Such a dumb approach
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God dammit Jose
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ANGEL!!!
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Damn it
It’s up to Pagan now
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PAGAN!!
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
COME ON JAY BAY
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
NO, JOSE -- don't swing at the first pitch!
YES, ANGEL — way to swing at the first pitch!
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jun 6, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
think
he’ll get to double digits for ya this year?
Bay should not be hitting 3rd
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Wright, our best hitter
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The Book says the best hitters should be 1st, 2nd and 4th, right?
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
why should the 3rd hitter not be your best?
by Mike Clemente on Jun 6, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
but I wonder how much of that is a product of poor line up construction
where the #1 and #2 hitters are usually light hitting speedy low obp guys because of old school convention.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
agreed...
bay has the better average this year. I have zero issue with him hitting third until betran comes back
by Mike Clemente on Jun 6, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
you don’t want your best hitter batting third. Per some hardball times piece I saw, that’s for your first best hitter. Optimally, 1,2,4 and 5 are your 4 best.
so
by chance, and not design, Bay third is about right. If you think Wright, davis, Pagan and reyes are better hitters. Davis and Bay thus far this year it is close maybe.
no 3rd and 5th are considered even
1,2,4th are optimal
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Fucking Hanley
why didn’t he loaf it there dammir
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Inning over
At least we’re back in it. I just hope Nieve isn’t coming in
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Ehh, no one else is good enough to bring in
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Is it just my imagination or was that exactly like the ball Eckstein hit on Wednesday?
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I have an odd feeling his shoulder isn't healthy
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Our other options are
Valdes, Nieve, Feliciano
Not great pickings
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Yeah and Toyota has pitched well before the injury so he deserves a couple chances to get right
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
he pitched well in one game
he was pretty terrible in spring training
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
LOL at them giving Joe Blanton $10 million a year
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Ugh
Leadoff walk
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Long PA by Hanley to start the inning
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Fredi playing Jerryball?
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Damnit Pagan
Our bullpen blows
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Angel looking like Roberto Duran today
hands of stone (for you youngsters)
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On an unrelated note,
I’m studying for my spanish final and I’m reading Gabriel Garcia Marquez. He used the word “barajas” which means, in infinitive form (barajar)—to shuffle.
I lobby for the barajas shuffle
We're going to need him to be much better
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
He's a bad pitcher
He wasn’t good in the spring, and he wasn’t good before his injury
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yeah the only reason he was kept on was because of the money owed
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
And because he throws hard
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ok im going to need specifics here...
i definitely recall everyone on here calling him possibly our best bullpen piece before the injury…now retroactively he was terrible? Something’s not right
by Mike Clemente on Jun 6, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
basically he was really really bad in spring training
had 2-3 good innings to start the season then one like mediocre one and 1 really bad one and then got injured
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
yeah but then he was also miserable in spring training
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
yeah but spring training doesn't mean much
by Mike Clemente on Jun 6, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
do you want to give him a bigger sample size to find out?
I mean considering the stats say he’s not getting unlucky how many innings do we want him to throw to make sure he really does suck?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I think the only conclusion we can come to
is that he’s been pretty terrible so far. He’s probably not this bad, but we just don’t know. I do remember reading before the Mets signed him that he had trouble with walks, so that might be part of his game.
The guys in the booth were talking that he looks a bit reticent because of his injury.
So, his mechanics are off and his splitter will be up and his fastball won’t have any command.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
is it possible for the mets to get out of their own way and be good again?
I hate Philadelphia so much.
yes ..lets load the bases this has worked out wonderfully for us this season.
god i hate jerry
I hate Philadelphia so much.
its smarter than pitching to cantu with no double play possibility
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
shit...only one out?
Thought there was two…bummer
by Mike Clemente on Jun 6, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Good grief man
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Damn
Frenchy almost got him
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Sac fly
& both runners advance
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oh yeah, him half assing it is still a great player
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
to me
it’s a question of getting the most out of everyone. I want him on me team and playing with a semblance of effort.
id certainly prefer to see him playing with effort on every play
but even with his lazy streaks he’s one of the best players in the game. His attitude could use some work, but you can’t deny he’s good.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah and thats a scary thought
how good he’d be if he didn’t have bouts of laziness.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
is he lazed after a dropped pop up, or didn’t run balls out or slide at home (I don’t know if that’s true), he could have been better. There’s really no way to gainsay it. I still want him on my team. Wanting guys to play hard doesn’t mean you want a team full of alex coras. Or even one Alex Cora.
Because everyone else in our bullpen sucks
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actually no valdes isn't
he had one bad outing, that’s not really justification for saying he sucks
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Only 1 run scores
It’s still close
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That could have been a hell of a lot worse
Rally time!
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also this is probably reason number 2 we shouldn't empty the farm for a starter
the bullpen is starting to fall apart
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Weakened substantially with Tak and Dickey going to the rotation
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and even if we moved him back to the pen
he’d be best served used as a long man
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I'd trade Meija if we could still get starting prospect value for him
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
i'm starting to be on the fence about this
We’re pretty much ruining his potential to be a starter, if we could move him for the right price, i’m not sure i’d oppose it as violently as i used to. we’ll never use him to his potential at this rate anyway.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
not Ike but no Mejia and Havens for Cliff Lee?
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
Unless you can sign him to an extension
Then no
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if you give him the right extension im sure he would take it
by Mike Clemente on Jun 6, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
the phillies offered him the same thing they offered Halladay I believe
he turned it down. There’s no way he’s not testing free agency
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
The Mets have
$119 million in payroll tied up for next year already, I doubt the Mets would pay him
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
no Lee's determined to test free agency
so we’d either have to drastically overpay for a starter in his 30s or be trading them for a rental
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What about for Oswalt who you can control a couple years?
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he's getting up there in years a bit
depends on the package they want. My guess is he’s not worth what he’ll cost.
by KeithsMoustache on Jun 6, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah they're not hurting financially
they can afford to hold out for premium.
On the other hand it’s Wade so who knows what he considers premium.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
no he's in his 30s
and declining, and it’s really only one year unless you pick up his option.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Injury history (back and hammy), buy high case, we are not contending this year.
Might cost more than he is worth.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
of course if Haren was actually on the market
I’d want them to trade for him within reason
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I wouldn't trade Nieuwhenhuis for Cliff Lee at this point
We’re fringe contenders at best, and we can sign him in the off season.
wait
wouldn’t we get a pick or 2for Lee if he left. Capt’n Kirk Ks a ton
yeah but we'd probably get a pick for Millwood
and could trade for him at a lower cost.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
lower than Kirk?
for Millz? I suppose. With the team now and Lee, I actually think we would contend. Shockingly. Could we trade what’s his name, Maldonado for Millz?
L-Millz
has been awful the last 2 years. But he is only 25.
trading kirk now would be selling way way low
he could easily be our top prospect by this time next year. He’s going to be a great defensive player and has the tools to have a plus bat.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
for Lee
we’d get a pick if he leaves. It could also being selling high. he K’s a ton, low walk rate, and I am not sure he’s amajor league cf. But I get ya. He does remind me of Tyler Colvin.
The walk rate appears to be an aberration
It was over 9% the past 2 years, this year it’s 4. And he does strike out, but 21% is ridiculously high. Davis K’d 25% last year in AA.
Lee is a buy high candidate.
He is way above his career peripherals, he is bound to regress.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
true
but he’s been very good 3 years running. I would take him for half a season in Citi, get a draft pick (or is it 2), in exchange for Kirk. It is close though, and only if Mets are contending by late July.
A top pick gives you at shot at someone as good as Kirk, I’d think. Not guaranteed, of course, but a reasonable simulacrum. Although it was nice to snag him relatively late.
Omar trading with Jack Z. Only way it could be worse was if it was Friedman.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Yes
which suggests we’d give up more than Kirk. The debate now is would you trade Kirk for Lee, not should Omar try to put together a package. That would end up Kirk, Havens, mejia and Feliciano, and Lee would be injured.
much hiher walk rate for Ike
but I get the Kirk love.
yeah but thats a 3 months sample size for Kirk
which shouldn’t override his previous production. And he’ll be playing plus defense at a position lower on the defensive spectrum. If they were even hitters, which I’m not sure if they will be but were, Kirk would still be way more valuable.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
since it is all spec anyway
I do think Millwood, in Citi, for a scrub prospect may make more sense. Gee?
Thing is we all fall in love with all the prospects. i am glad Omar has held onto more recently, and didn’t waste any mid season last year. But if we are contending, someone outside the big ones (I will throw Kirk in there, with Flores, F!, Havens, Allen, familia, tejada, Mejia, etc.).
I dunno, do the O’s like Satin?
I'd trade Meija, Tejada and F!
I just wouldn’t trade most of the others because I don’t think we’d get real value back based on their ages, guys like Flores/Allen/Familia are too young/to far away at this point, or underperforming, and because we desperately need surplus value with all the money we have tied up to players who won’t return near the value and how overall thin our farm system is. Trading a package to fill one hole will just cause multiple other ones to pop up elsewhere.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
and
He actually was -24 runs in St. Lucie last year per 150 according to minorleaguesplits. But he has the tools to be good. Adjusted for park and luck this year his OPS is .786. He walks at a rate below 4% this year. And I think next year I will still like Flores and havens more.
I get it. he has great potential ceiling. And Lee will regress some. But he has been good for 3 years, and we’d get a pick to replace Kirk (for which we’d refuse to overslot, haha), which will cost money, same as Cliff will. But if we are contending, I would do it for half a year.
-24 runs
was for fielding. Those metrics are tough to trust for minor leaguers, I know.
Meddler did a write up on this
look at his home away splits. The difference is at home there was an unnatural increase in balls could flyballs rather than line drives.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Ah
the Mark former Known as Meddler. I found out about AA from him on Sickel’s minorleagueball.com
that sentence i wrote was horrible
it was supposed to say way more balls were called line drives, to the point where it was a pretty major anamoly compared to the rest of that league, than flyballs at home, which caused a huge split in his away/home total run numbers.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
nope
Both Mejia and Havens could be quite good.
David just missed it
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unfortunately he's thinking the same thing
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THE ROD FATHER
"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell
WINCOEUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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his contract doesnt have a vest does it?
by Mike Clemente on Jun 6, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Frenchy!
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
frenchy
wants to prove he is at least a tad above mediocre
which is impossible
but ou do root for him.
RzBI Guy, nyuck nyuck
easily the greatest met since piazza
WHAT A FIGHTER
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when was the last time a met had a curtain call btw?
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Frenchy to the DL tomorrow
muscle strains in both cheeks from all the smiling.
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by dcrockett17 on Jun 6, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Like Hanibal Lechter
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
French Revolution!!
what did you expect??
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Too late to pull out now
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Jerryesque
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nah
jerry waits until the 100 pitch mark
I Believe in 80 wins
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 6, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
agree and leaving wood in another inning compounded that error
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frenchy's probably going to be the most frustrating player ever to watch
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
when he's on his long cold streaks
absolutely
pre-contract Opie?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Steve Trachsel?
time between pitches
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
frustrating
or annoying? Too fine of a distinction?
i allow you to rip me on the hard play comments
this team just went Full Grissonzzzz
I hate Philadelphia so much.
We have two of the streakiest hitters in the league
in frenchy and bay
Oh My God
What is Jerry thinking? It’s a tie game! What if Barajas, Blanco and Santo get injured, who will catch? He better be putting Tatis at third base.
i'm gonna send reyes
the derek jeter top-half hitting technique dvd
Back to popping everything up
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Inning over
Let’s hope the ’pen can keep us in it
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Everyday Nieve now?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
good inning lets not squander it.
whos on the hill, dessens, im not completely sick
I hate Philadelphia so much.
Scott Rolen just hit a 2 run homer, 4-2 Reds in the 9th
Looks like Nats are falling back to Earth
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
People were saying how bad their pen is
Marlins pen: -1.2 pRAA
Mets pen: -12.9 pRAA
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
People were saying how bad their pen is
Marlins pen: -1.2 pRAA
Mets pen: -12.9 pRAA
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
We need a good righthanded reliever
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Outside of KRod
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Dessens has 0.2 pRAA. That's the best RHP besides KRod we have. /facepalm
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
JJ Putz numbers this year
2.89 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 25 Ks, 4 walks, 18 innings
/epic facepalm
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
why do we only let players go
when they may have value to us
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Leadoff BB for Pagan
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
If Pagan
would have been thrown out, we all woudl have rioted.
lol it wouldn't make sense to send pagan
so of course Jerry did it
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
So close
Ike just put the thing in the air!
Bagh Ike
but Mets lead!
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
He has money
I wouldn’t say he is money
by Evan_S on Jun 6, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
..and I thought this Sunday was going to be nice and relaxing
I lobby for tornado.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Inning over
It’s K-Rod time
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
wrights still only at a .381 wOBA
I’m not impressed
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Fry these fish!!!
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
ha!
it’s a marlin too!
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell. More like Benitez
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Cantu single
DP please
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
is there a specific reason frankie is a relief pitcher?
especially since he has so many secondary pitches
until the last few years
he only threw two, fastball and slider exclusively. And he has an insanely violent motion which made him susceptible to injuries.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
His fangraphs main page is wrongz.
Check his pitch f/x tab in fangraphs.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Never a 1-2-3 inning
with Met closers
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
this is why
K-Rod did not waste a pitch 0-2 against the padres.
DUDE! Just throw strikes!
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
Omar said "Let's get a lot of rappers to the stadium"...
…and some intern misunderstood.
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jun 6, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it me
or does Frankie’s WHIP of 1.21 seem like it should be about .5 higher?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
His walks are actually down a bit so far this year.
3.68 BB/9 vs. 5.03 last year. Though that’s only through 29.1 innings so far.
thank God for this park
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
by Gina on Jun 6, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
FUCK Gary
That scared the shit out of me
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
So is K-Rod
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
2 outs
The wind is our friend
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Why does Warthen always come out with 2 outs
Like his genius ass is saying anything helpful?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
It's going to pour rain at Citi in about 2 minutes.
hurry up, bitch
One day, this team is going to kill me.
I just laughed out loud in a public place!
thnx.
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't throw him a strike
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
K-Rod
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
by Brian. on Jun 6, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Recced
Maybe bust out the friendship fatality to confuse them.
Sweep these puckers!
I'm a fan, not a statistician. I don't do stats.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 6, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah. I passed one
6 years ago, and think I may have one now. Pain subsided today, but may just be shifting. It was like a blueberry trying to squeeze out a gnat’s ass. TMI?
I am sorry
This will be the last time I ever try to make that comparison.
I've passed 4.
even had one on a plane on my way down to DR. that was scary shit.
I drink water non-stop.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
+1
plus i could get a laugh out of his dances
I Believe in 80 wins
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 6, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
SWEEP!
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Gary
callin’ out Fredi. hanley says that’s it, I am not playing for this amateur. :)
Hanley
likes the A/C in the Citi Field dugouts. I bet he loves NYC!
We're the Mets
These things aren’t supposed to happen to us? But I certainly am digging it.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
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