Amateur Draft Day 2 Open Thread
by Alex Nelson on Jun 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT
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PrintWith their first-round selection last night, the Mets took UNC sinkerballer Matt Harvey, a kid with high upside but a little more rawness than you typically see in a college pitcher.
I'll try and keep up with the selections as they come off the board and add them to the chart below, but the picks do move very fast. After picking prep outfielder Josh Sale last night, I'll also continue making my selections in my shadow draft for at least a few more rounds in the comments below.
| # | Player | Pos | School |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Matt Harvey | RHP | North Carolina |
| 3 | Blake Forsythe | C | Tennessee |
| 4 | Cory Vaughn | OF | San Diego State |
| 5 | Matt den Dekker | OF | Florida |
| 6 | Greg Peavey | RHP | Oregon State |
| 7 | Jeff Walters | RHP | Georgia |
| 8 | Kenny McDowall | RHP | College of Southern Nevada |
| 9 | Jake deGrom | RHP/SS | Stetson University |
| 10 | Akeel Morris | RHP | Charlotte Amelie HS (VI) |
| 11 | Adam Kolarek | LHP | Maryland |
| 12 | Bret Mitchell | RHP | Minnesota State-Mankato |
| 13 | Brian Harrison | 3B | Furman |
| 14 | J.B. Brown | 2B | U Pacific |
| 15 | Tillman Pugh | OF | Sonoma State |
| 16 | Ryan Fraser | RHP | Memphis |
| 17 | Chad Sheppard | RHP | Northwestern State |
| 18 | A.J. Pinera | RHP | U Tampa |
| 19 | Jonathan Kountis | RHP | Embry-Riddle |
| 20 | Lucas Stewart | 1B | Alabama-Birmingham |
| 21 | Dabias Johnson | 2B | Cook HS (GA) |
| 22 | Brandon Brown | SS | South Alabama |
| 23 | Drew Martinez | OF | Memphis |
| 24 | Erik Goeddel | RHP | UCLA |
| 25 | Peter Birdwell | RHP | Vanguard |
| 26 | Jet Butler | SS | Mississippi State |
| 27 | Michael Weldon | RHP | Wayland Baptist |
| 28 | Jeremy Gould | LHP | Duke |
| 29 | Hamilton Bennett | LHP | Tennessee Wesleyan |
| 30 | Josh Edgin | LHP | Francis Marion |
And that does it for us. I'll have the highlights up either later tonight or early tomorrow morning. Quick gut reactions: that's a lot of college players, and it's a lot of pitchers.
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First Pick of Round 2
Nats pick Sammy Solis to open up the round. Mets will pick in about a half hour or so.
Stetson Allie
goes second, so the Pirates get the two biggest arms in the draft. Everyone thought they’d go conservative.
Allie
Is also a very boom or bust guy. The guy literally couldn’t get the ball anywhere near the strike zone until 2 months ago.
Any thoughts on Robbie Aviles?
I know he just went down with the elbow injury, but is he a guy worth taking a chance on and waiting for? Seems like he could be a decent gamble later on for a team without a lot of high picks, but I have no clue.
are there any signability guys who have fallen
or other somewhat high reward guys who might be available?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Why wouldnt they take him?
Overslot guy?
by SFloridaMetsFan on Jun 8, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I should say guys who we're likely to target
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I've read that this is a weak draft class...what round would we starts seeing the talent level drop?
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
Sorry that was kind of a joke
When people say that the draft is weak, they mean that the talent in the opening couple rounds are weak. By round four or five, it’s about as strong as any other draft.
This is really my 1st time following the MLB draft
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
I like your term "shadow draft"
sounds like a good thriller/horror movie.
Movie tagline:
In a world where what could have been …. will never be…..Shadow Draft…coming to theatres this Summer.
ha ha, yeah like "Mountain High"
“you gotta get me over that mountain!”
Sack Lunch
starring Dabney Coleman
by James Kannengieser on Jun 8, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
"Checkmate"
Man: I didn’t know you enjoyed chess, your majesty.
King: Why wouldn’t I?
Man: Because the king is always in jeopardy.
King: Yes, but it’s only a game.
Man: (suspiciously) Yes, of course. Only a game.
Yes, there is a blog post for these. Amazing.
by tmu on Jun 8, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
"Death Blow"
“When someone tries to blow you up, not because of who you are, but for different reasons altogether44 minutes ago clear”
2009 Did Not Happen
really?
that’s sarcasm, right?
My biggest memory of Rojas is the grand slam to Paul O’Neill in the first ever regular season Subway Series game @ Shea
2009 Did Not Happen
Yeah
I don’t have any fond memories of Mel Rojas. He couldn’t even leave town properly: they had to bring in Bobby Bonilla to get rid of him, and they’re still paying Bonilla’s contract (or more precisely just resumed paying it).
Forsythe
is a talented receiver, plus arm, has a long swing, strikes out a lot but is very patient. Doesn’t have much power, so he’s a good-throwing catcher who might not make enough contact.
yeah keith law apparently says he's adam dunn at the plate
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I read "talented receiver" as "talented reliever"
And about shit my pants.
sorry didn't hit .433
I think I was looking at his cumulative OBP the last two years, my bad.
He entered the season projected to be a first rounder
He has a good approach at the plate, was 2nd in the SEC in OBP last year. Maybe could have waited, but I like the addition.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 8, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
so much for aj cole
wasn’t he one of their round 1 targets? their refusal to go overslot really is infuriating. i’m not going to pretend to know a lot about the guy, but if he was the best available talent they should have taken him.
by pricedoutoftheciti on Jun 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
oh i totally understand that aspect of it
the kid is a h.s. arm and could just opt for college if he doesn’t get what he wants. i guess i was just hoping they’d take a chance. guess things looked real bad.
by pricedoutoftheciti on Jun 8, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither the Yankees or Red Sox took Cole so what does that say?
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
Is it a pretty safe bet the Mets will go conservative the rest of draft?
Go overslot with the high-profile first-round pick so they can tell people like Francesa they’re not cheap when it comes to the draft, but quietly make up that money on the back end?
A GINGER!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Don’t the front office know gingers have no souls?
Aw, sick! Gross! Ginger kids are born with a disease, which causes very light skin, red hair and freckles. This disease is called “Gingervitis”. Kids who have Gingervitis cannot be cured.
Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."
by scott from peekskill on Jun 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Matt Harvery?
I really want to know more about this guy and nobody’s posting anything yet.
Thanks, Alex
That will be much needed.
If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
is it possible
the mets take mark himmelstein in the 4th round?
by pricedoutoftheciti on Jun 8, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
For what it's worth
Rob Brantly who the Tigers took is who the Mets should have taken instead of Forsythe.
With Forsythe
we will have a Dynasty. (Seriously, I hope this guy was not named “Blake” after John Forsythe’s character on Dynasty. Not that I’ve ever seen Dynasty. It’s Wikipedia. That and my deluxe DVD set — the one I watch, not the one I left in shrinkwrap for posterity.)
Forgot!
My pick was Aaron Shipman in the third round, who went to the Athletics a few picks later. Very toolsy and athletic, but he’s very raw. Wasn’t anybody else I loved after a run on my favorites, but he has the chance to be something special. And he’s expected to sign.
He’s not my usual pick type of pick (or the Mets’) but it’s nice to get some high-upside talent every once and while.
Mets select
Greg Vaughan’s son in the fourth. Very toolsy, looks great in batting practice but has no idea how to play baseball.
that's promising?
If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
maybe we can get greg to come out of retirement
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense.
When would Greg have been around to teach him?
Hell, WHAT would Greg have taught him?
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Jun 8, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
My pick is David Filak
the best Division III player in the country, a pitcher with good stuff who has put up ridiculous numbers up in Oneonta.
Any chances that the Mets draft Bryce's brother Bryan?
It’d be like that time that the Mets had Mike Maddux!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
eek
the second toolsy guy is a college guy? I was hoping he was a prep bat. A college player with no idea how to play baseball isn’t quite as inspiring.
Lol but it seems exactly like something that would follow mets logic.
toolsy guys have high upside
college guys have lower risks
college toosly guys= best way to go
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Yeah
I really don’t like toolsy college guys with performance issues, just as I really like polished high schoolers. The Mets have always liked them (and sometimes you can get a bargain with easily correctable issues, but they are rare).
I never know what you're saying
2009 Did Not Happen
by cjmulrain on Jun 8, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Red Sox
Absolutely love Garin Cecchini. First-round talent for me with signability doubts so I steered clear.
And the Yankees
take a guy I was hoping would be there at five in Mason Williams. Tiny little guy who draws comparisons to Doug Glanville.
What is the report with Vaughn?
Is he any good?
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
Toolsy player
Lots of speed and strength, but the performance hasn’t been there, and he’s struck out a ton in college.
All I could find.
Cory Vaughn is what we call a "gunshot guy." A gunshot guy is a hitter whose wood bat makes a sound like a gunshot when he makes solid contact, as opposed to the wet newspaper sound. Show up for BP or early work and you’ll hear it. I had the park to myself. The scouts were sleeping it off.
Vaughn, the son of the Greg Vaughn, has a leaner and more athletic body than his father had when he first came to the major leagues. Cory Vaughn hits from a wide stance and has a short trigger. He has fast hands and keeps the firm front side even when he is fooled. He’s going to have the power to play a corner and I think he’s going to be athletic enough to steal some bases if he wants to. He’s a first-round talent in 2010. His numbers weren’t much to look at on the Cape, but I’m not scouting results. You can’t hide the power and you can’t hide this guy’s body and athleticism. If I were looking for a comparison at this stage, Matt Kemp might work.
by Joshuah on Jun 8, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is this the mets new MO?
After Ike Davis’s success are they trying to only draft relatives of former major leaguers?
I read somewhere that Terrasas likes to pick guys with solid defensive skills.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Well,
most people do, but I get your point. By definition, most of those guys are going to be college players, too.
Vaughn hit .378, slugged .606
but not a lot of walks and 55 Ks in only 188 abs this year.
The big names left
Are Austin Wilson, Jesse Hahn. Wilson has signability issues and Hahn might have an injury issue.
So are any of the last three players we drafted potential impact guys?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
I think
they can be. I don’t like their chances though. den Dekker is strong and fast. But he was very disappointing in college, and I’ve never liked his swing.
I know that college offensive stats are pretty ridiculous
but why is a .368/.584/1.034 Ops and 23 sbs considered really disappointing in a good conference like the SEC? What was wrong with him, other than swing?
Well
1. There are a lot of guys who do that. 2. He’s a senior, he’s a year older than everybody, and he’s never been near that good. And 3. You have to look at the numbers that are the strongest indicators of how he’ll perform: a 46/26 K/BB ratio is not good.
but, I mean
if a prospect put up that kind of line in A+, he’d be an instant top-5 prospect, and people would just say he needs to work on his plate discipline. From everything I’ve heard, the NCAA (especially in a strong conference like the SEC) is at a level somewhere around AA. The metal bats obviously inflate the offensive numbers, but that still looks like someone who has the potential to be a decent hitter
2009 Did Not Happen
NCAA
is nowhere near Double-A. Anybody who says that is lying through their teeth. It’s closest to the NY-Penn league, which is composed mostly of the more advanced recent draftees. And nobody hits in the NY-Penn league like they do in college.
those aren't dan dekkers numbers are they?
cause those aren’t the numbers im looking at at all.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I was off on the avg.
It’s .361, not .368, and the OPS is 1.017. But it’s close: http://www.gatorzone.com/baseball/stats.php#TEAM.MLB
Josh Slaats
goes to the Rockies, and he was my choice in the Shadow. Big kid with a great slider, the arm angle might be better for relief, but he really blossomed this year after a great performance on the Cape.
hey alex
thanks for doing this dude. this is a really enjoyable way to track the draft.
by pricedoutoftheciti on Jun 8, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
and rightly so
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not watching the MLB steam
But the Mets should be made fun of for that trade.
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
But we have the "animal"
and he will dominate as our DH next week. So, we have that going for us…which is nice.
That was a really dumb trade, though, indefensible.
I still don't understand the logic behind that trade
Why would they just give up two picks for a guy they admit they don’t value all that much?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
i've read wagner asked wilpon not to offer arb to him
so the mets flipped him for what they could. it’s stupid. so so stupid.
by pricedoutoftheciti on Jun 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would the Mets listen to Wags?
It does not make sense.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Exactly
If they had any b—-s they would have told Wags, "Not only are we gonna offer arb but you owe us 2 months salary for your part in the 2007 meltdown, specifically that afternoon blown save at philly, the back “issues”, etc."
Pitcher for Oregon State Greg Peavy
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
IS HE JAKE'S BROTHER???
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guys
I kinda like this one. Greg Peavey is a good pitcher, throws in the high 80s, flashes a good slider but it’s inconsistent. He has good command and a very compact delivery.
the state of the mets.
apologizing for agreeing with a decision they make.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
How many rounds of the draft will they complete today?
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
Yankees took him
205th overall.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
We got him.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really feel that way
I just enjoy pointing out absurdities with sarcasm, irony, etc.
Maybe someone can explain to me why I fear draft day every year, and assume the worst of the Mets’ picks. I’m normally such an optimist.
Showing my age there
I remember watching that when I was a kid 8 years ago on Game Show Network. 12 was a crazy age.
I remember watching that show when it was, umm, on teevee in the 80s.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Mets select Jeff Walters
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
you gotta love those whammy dances they did, though
a little consolation prize for the loser
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
by SundaysWithTroy on Jun 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Fifth Times the charm
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeffrey Walters
7.90 ERA
55: 41 K:BB
Brooklyn ready
No
I forgot to mention 13 wild pitches and 3 HBP
And we drafted this guy WHY?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Big heavy sinking fastball
Just little to no control of it
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 8, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So that's 6 college guys
and no high schoolers yet, right? Interesting…
almost seems like somebody is desperately clutching to their job...
by Rob Castellano on Jun 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
OR
that they don’t want to pay that much for guys who can go to college instead.
by tmu on Jun 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If they go to college you don't pay anything.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
I like 4 of the picks
I’d like Walters as well in a few rounds
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 8, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Walters
He’s a big guy with a big fastball, not a whole lot else. Slider shows promise, but it’s inconsistent. Arm action is pretty good though a little whippy, but he drags his glove side down and it’s clearly affecting his command.
wow
the guy had a .340 BAA this season. oh and he can’t throw strikes either (41 BB in 68 IP) . i can’t believe georgia kept running him out there, even for college thats horrifyingly bad.
so all in all sweet pick guys!
by Rob Castellano on Jun 8, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
.392 BABIP
Splits here.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft is going fast now. Almost like we are picking papers out of hat.
Maybe we would have better chances with this method.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Kenneth McDowall.
College of Southern Nevada.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
Kenneth McDowall
4.71 ERA
42 IP, 20 BB, 50 K’s
College of Southern Nevada’s team ERA: 3.23
He only started 8/13 games
How hard does he throw?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
low 90's?
Judging by the little scouting video on MLB.com. Not sure if that’s where he sits or where he tops out.
by TheBigStapler on Jun 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually check that
I do know McDowell a little, but only when I went through CSN’s roster a while back, he’s got average stuff and poor command, clean delivery.
Yeah
Crosby, Stills, Nash and sometimes Young or McDowell. Never better than when all 5 were together.
My last two picks
by the way are Kevin Walter, another Hight School pitcher, and Tyler Holt, a patient and speedy but strikeout prone college outfielder. I’m not sure how many more picks I’m making.
What's with parents who have the last name Holt not naming their son Steve?
It’s just wrong.
by Evan_S on Jun 8, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can control your bladder when you're dead.
There’s no “me” in team. No blood, no oil.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll always remember this, Dad.
I won’t. I won’t.
The last 3 pitchers they drafted
all have pretty underwhelming numbers. Even Peavey only had 72 Ks in 99 IP.
I would assume that
we’re beyond numbers right now and looking for the raw materials that the crack Mets’ player development personnel can mold into the next Eddie Kunz.
by tmu on Jun 8, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Jacob Degrom.
Stetson University.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
He's a SS/RHP
from a small school in Florida. Show good control, walked only 16 batters. 6-4, 185 pounds, so they’re counting on projection here.
RHP seems to be a theme for the Mets this year.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
A good way to save money
is to not scout high schools, apparently.
Tyler Holt to Cleveland.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Akeel Morris.
Mets’ first high-schooler.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
From US Virgin Islands.
Throws 94, apparently, and threw a perfect game in November 2009.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder how territory high schoolers compare to american ones
in terms of competition faced
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I know Jabari Blash
who comes from the Virgin Islands went to Miami Dade CC to face better competition.
Good question.
Here’s about all I found on the googles, outside of the perfect game thing:
17. AKEEL MORRIS, rhp, Charlotte Amalie HS, St. Thomas, V.I.
Topped at 91 in bureau workout in January; 6-0 righty, won’t be 18 til November, headed to Connors State
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the mets strategy is pretty obvious
2008 they took a bunch of college players, mostly bats, and fans complained about sticking to slot and not going for upside
so 2009 they take a bunch of high school pitchers that are going to demand overslot money then get killed by fans for not signing them
so now they’re going back to the college players but making sure they can sign them all
it’s akin to omar’s team building, focus on fixing the thing most recently complained about
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
another words
he has no idea how to run a ballclub?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
no he has an idea, and he likes his idea.
it’s just a bad idea.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
besides the reach for Forsythe, how are we doing overall?
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
Alex is great and Gina is never off her usual form.
but how are the Mets so far? BTW an ice cold vitamin water is like chap stick for dry throat
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
The situation and David Wright are pleased to hear that about Vitamin Water.
by aparkermarshall on Jun 8, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I really drank a lot of Vitamin Water
when I lived in DC. Then I watched season two of Gossip Girl and the crass product placement just ruined it for me!
I think so,
the 10th Round is finished so I guess they’re waiting for the 11th Round to start.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
You cannot make this shit up
From Jake deGrom’s team profile:
“Led the team in sacrifice bunts with six..”
It's amazing that
he can also suck at hitting and be a mediocre pitcher…
Yes, deGrom was in fact Jerry’s pick. He wants him signed to the ML roster ASAP for pinch-hitting purposes. Well, at least maybe this will result in fewer double-switches of David Wright…
formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan
by Douglas A. Lee on Jun 8, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He can pitch
AND play shortstop!
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Probably,
& he has someone else to use instead of K-Rod in extra inning games.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
More like...
….one more guy to run out there between when K-Rod starts warming up and when he actually pitches.
Jake deGrom
hit .263/.333/.347 on a team where the team line was .318/.393/.456
He had a 4.48 ERA and had a 56:23 K:(BB+HBP)
sounds great
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
had the best ERA on the team
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
The Mets take Adam Kolarek
A lefty from MD
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
C-/D+
Harvey isn’t my style, but he’s fine. Den Dekker and Vaughn are at least very, very talented. I don’t dislike Peavy, though he’s very low upside.
The others I more or less actively dislike.
I wonder, though
if anyone aside from Washington would rate theirs any higher.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Kolarek
6.06 ERA (team was 7.19), 13 games, 5 starts, 35 IP, 34 strikeouts, 21 walks
Sounds like Ollie
Wow
Minaya sure is stacking the team with mediocre pitchers
by aparkermarshall on Jun 8, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Switch the walks and strikeouts
and you have ollie squared
by SFloridaMetsFan on Jun 8, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Im surprised at all the pitchers
I thought the Mets had a good crop of pitchers in A ball. Where are the bats?
Kolarek
I’m a little familiar with. He’s got a starter’s build and a closer’s mentality, with above average left-handed velocity and poor secondary offerings.
Mo Vaughn in his current state would take all the pitchers we drafted today deep
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Not if you tell him he
gets a free dinner buffet.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Jun 8, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The 12th round selection is
Bret Mitchell.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
This draft has been meh
I’m not terribly excited for these players. I hope we put some good money on the international signings.
Oooh, I like Mitchell
94 IP, 37 BB+HBP, 108 K’s
Not bad
He is in Division II, so you’d expect a little dominance though. Still, I can think of far worse.
first thing I thought
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
by SundaysWithTroy on Jun 8, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Marquis
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Michael Goodnight to the Indians.
That’s a rad name.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
Indians take Pitcher Michael Goodnight
HA!!! What a name
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
The Mets select Brian Harrison,
a 3b.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
I had a tutor
called Brian Harrison. He edited the Dictionary of National Biography. I’m guessing it’s not him.
Brian Harrison!!
3rd Baseman, watch your back David Wright
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
is anyone else able to hear the announcements?
it wasn’t doing that for me before
Brian Harrison appears to like to hit a bit.
.362/.462/.734 this season.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
Its their own fault for being racist
"No disrespect to the batter," Figueroa said, "but tacos are good."
by inventor frank on Jun 9, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Lucas O'Rear!
Haven’t seen him since the tournament!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
I like Brian Harrison
I’ve seen him play in person around 20 times…very versatile. I wonder where he’ll play in the minors.
the yankees took a kid out of St.Johns last round
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Harrison
is a very smart pick. He’s athletic should be a good defender, really came on strong towards the end. Could go to second base, but he has the arm for third.
Awesome.
I hope he don’t take no mess.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
James Brown lol
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
Mets take James Brown
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Slick and the Family Brick.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Earth, Hot Air and no Fire
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tillman Pugh.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
METS SELECT:Tillman Pugh
Sounds like a ball player to me
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
any relation to porkchop?
"No disrespect to the batter," Figueroa said, "but tacos are good."
by inventor frank on Jun 9, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Mets take Tillman Pugh
a CF
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
According to his ASU bio . . .
Tillman Pugh “says The Fresh Prince of Bel Air is his favorite TV show.” I am totally ok with this.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
Pugh doesn't appear to have played this year?
No stats on the Sonoma State website.
He made this awesome catch, tho.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
I hope Tillman Pugh
has a cousin who reads this blog, b/c I’d like to get to know him better
2009 Did Not Happen
Pugh
is a speedy center fielder who can’t really hit. He also couldn’t play this season because he wasn’t academically eligible.
So he's like Shoeless Joe, without the hitting ability?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
my little bro’s classmate at Regis HS in Manhattan just got drafted. lhp chris bates. sick
The pick is Ryan Fraser
a RHP from Memphis
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Another RHP?
Lordy. It’s beyond fascination. It’s obsession.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
reading from the top to bottom
it’s hilarious how this thread descends into loopiness with each mets pick.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
sheesh between 2007, last year and this year
you’d think our system would be bursting with pitching talent
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
yeah thats kind of my point
but you’d think that when you draft that many pitchers you’d accidentally get some talented ones.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
they probably figure at the rate Jerrys going
we’ll need a new crop of bp arms by august
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Fraser
Dunno anything about him other than he seems to have some control issues. Don’t even know what he throws.
God this is the anti-NFL draft
The NFL draft is so full of optimism for the fans.
This is some of the most depressing Mets related stuff I have read this year. Gaaaah!
not the steelers drafts
they can’t go 2 rounds without picking a linebacker.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
though I will say they almost always hit on their first 2 rounds
before they devolve into picking names out of a hat.
the mets draft like rod thorn. which is annoying because omar is such a good scout you’d at least think we could hit on the draft.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Maybe he tanks the US draft
to make his international draft look better
I don't know, Jets fans tend to boo all their picks, don't they?
So we’re the Jets of baseball. Wooooooo.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOO ANOTHER RHP
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Chad Sheppard
and yes, another RHP.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Another 6'4" RHP.
Hahahaha this is fun.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
A closer, in fact.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And if we take all the RHPs
Nobody else will get any. duh!
You really can't grade an MLB draft for a few years
but still, it doesn’t seem like the Mets are taking anyone with much upside at all. Guys with 7+ ERA’s in college probably aren’t going to turn into very useful major league pitchers…
2009 Did Not Happen
Jerry Reese woulda found more baseball players
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
No, he would've tried to find guys who do backflips
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
how so?
he’s an athletic beast with little in the way of pass rushing moves, and really little football playing experience in general, drafted predominately because of his measurable in hopes of being a premier pass rusher.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
JPP is known for his hard work while Gholston never had that reputation
The qualities are similar but the work ethic will make the difference.
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
And I can't find any recent report questioning his work ethic
all of them say the exact opposite.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Check the post stories on him as a1st year pro
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
Not really disagreeing
But supposedly effort is not an issue with JJP< I don’t think the same can be said about Gohlston.
That would be putting it lightly
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Why? You wanted a LB or you don't like "athletic/upside" types
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
We didn't need another DE
Scouts said he was a boom or bust player, and he only played one year at college
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
We didnt need a DE but Reese believes in taking the best player
regardless of position. The thing is that DE is so deep that if JPP booms then we are amazing on the line, if he busts then hey he’s the 4th DE, no biggie right?
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
Bulaga and Iupati would've been much better choices
and would’ve actually filled a need
I understand he got fudged over a little after the Raiders took McClain, but still… JPP was a bad pick
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
i didn't get how bulaga fell so far
the steelers have desperately needed a left tackle for years and yet they took a center they apparently didn’t even want over him.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
the problem
is that JPP wasn’t the best player available. He wasn’t even really close to the best player available.
Maybe, just maybe, he was the best athlete available, but then, the athleticism that he has doesn’t necessarily translate to being a good defensive end (read what I posted below, there’s a whole statistical breakdown of it).
JPP could end up being a great defensive end, but the historical trends are extremely lined up against it, and when you’re picking in the top half of the draft, taking a risk like that at a position of strength is negligence. And I love Jerry Reese.
2009 Did Not Happen
I'm not gonna disagree with your opinion but Jerry Reese has
a pretty good track record. If JPP turns into an all pro then Reese was right to draft him
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
agreed
and I want to give Reese the benefit of the doubt. I love what he did in the following rounds, I am just really pessimistic about JPP. Even if I’m right and JPP busts, it doesn’t make Reese a bad GM – even the best have their misses occasionally, the pick just really disappointed me.
2009 Did Not Happen
Can't fault you for being disappointed
we just gotta wait and see. I just have a feeling that JPP is going to be good
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
I think Jerry R could draft football players
and have a better draft
by blains2000 on Jun 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the mets seem convinced they can fix everyone
they do the same thing with relievers and starters with “stuff” but no control or real pitchability.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Maybe Mets will draft me
I have some “stuff” that I spilled on myself at lunch
I am
surprised Chad Sheppard was still here, and I’m guessing people have the feeling he’s going back to school. He’s got a low-90s sinker and a slider which can look soft at times. A reliever with a starter’s body. Very good value here.
The Mets take Alexander Pinera
another RHP.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
GTFOH ANOTHER RHP
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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 8, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
Mike Rizzo says no war paint for Bryce Harper
Boooo that.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 8, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
Weak.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He got it backwards
He should institute mandatory war paint throughout the organization.
Or even Kiss make-up.
Damn it.
This was the part of his game that impressed me most.
by Thomas Wachtel on Jun 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
im pretty sure right handers have been our mo since 06 or 07
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
yeah thats a little crazy
in 07 15 of our 39 picks were RHP, 5 of our first 7 picks.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Hosh Ashenbrenner is a rad name.
At this point, unusual names is about all that’s left in the draft for me.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
Apropos of nothing
Well, because you mentioned unusual names, here’s a list from an old electoral register of my favourite names from 17th Century Bristol – all real, just my top twenty out of a stats class dataset of three thousand:
Whitechurch Phippen
Obediah Gastrell
Moor Pye
Catchmay Berrow
Habbakkuk Holton
Beloved Wilks
Nathaniel Musprat
Lazarus Brayne (he’s my favourite)
Mermaduke Bowdler
Onesephoros Tyndall
Nehemiah Champion
Ichabod Flower
Cornelius Holboring
Israel Roach
Abraham Twite
George Barepacker
Frith Blinko
Jaspet Bird
Hezekiah Emory
Augustine Rock
Mermaduke Bowdler FTW.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet the surname lives on.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bowdlerise
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap
James Calloway Bowdler II. It couldn’t really be anything less.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rays' last pick sounds like he might fit on that above list:
Craige Lyerly.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
WhiteChruch Phippen is a good name.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Chadwick Arnold and Dallas Chadwick taken back-to-back.
This is what the MLB Draft is all about, baby!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
RHP.
Ha.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
rhp from embry riddle
isnt that the astronaut school?
This team NEEDS an astronaut.
Maybe that guy can hook me up with a spaceship.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Astronaut Mike Dexter is good I hear
So says Liz Lemon.
The Mets take Jonothan Kountis
a RHP. How many RHP is that now?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
The Mets take Lucas Stewart
a first baseman!
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Just getting in...
I see a few picks that I like, doesn’t look like we are going overslot for more than 1 or 2. Has Hahn come off the board yet?
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
Damnit
I saw he was still out there after round 4 when I checked and had my fingers crossed
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
man
in these late rounds, i would take so many catchers.
Charles Riefenhauser of Chipola JC!
I like it, TB.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
Wait,
the draft is finished today?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
damn they're dead serious about these righties
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
A second baseman!
Dabias has been against non-RHP this draft, until now.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah that sounds right.
After Akeel.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
How many RHP are we up to now?
Let’s just turn them into Terra Cotta Warriors and be done with it.
SS.
Michkin might be pleased.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
Appears to be a light-hitting SS with some defensive issues.
19 errors in 59 games.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
White Sox drafted Ozzie's son:
Ozney Guillen.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
seriously?
they drafted kenny williams son a few years ago
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Yep.
I love that his name is “Ozney.”
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we sure it's not his grandkid?
Maybe great-grandkid?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Tigers also just drafted a catcher from Los Osos HS.
I wish I went to Los Osos.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 8, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So to break down the first 18 picks
I count 12 pitchers, 11 of them righthanded, and only 6 position players. Is that a fairly crazy ratio or not at all? I honestly don’t know. But it sounds a bit crazy.
He may have 19th round talent
but he has a first round name. Surprised Omar resisted so long.
Ha
It looks like just before round 28, Jeff phoned Omar and said “you have drafted a few LHP haven’t you?” and Omar was like “er…. yeeeeeeees”
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