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Open Thread: Mets vs Braves, 7/11/2010

Atlanta Braves at New York Mets, Jul 11, 2010 1:10 PM EDT





Johan Santana

#57 / Pitcher / New York Mets

6-0

210

L

L

Mar 13, 1979



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Johan Santana 6-5 18 18 1 1 0 0 120.0 106 43 42 8 38 78 3.15 1.20


Derek Lowe

#32 / Pitcher / Atlanta Braves

6-6

230

R

R

Jun 01, 1973



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Derek Lowe 9-7 18 18 0 0 0 0 108.1 108 55 53 8 42 66 4.40 1.38

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sad line up

makes me sad

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i've got my Failson Bay bobblehead doll.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jul 11, 2010 12:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

HA

i just noticed K-bay is not in the line up today on his bobble head day. Oh jason..how the met faithful want you gone.

Taken out as precautionary measure to make sure no bobbleheads are tossed his way during his what would have been 0-4 performance today

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's so he can PH in the 9th with a dramatic K

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 11, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The mets love drama

breaking hearts and pissing us off

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another game, another vest...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 11, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Frenchy on the bench

I am shocked the Mets made the right decision the first time. And didnt wait two months to correct it.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The sweet sounds of the SNY broadcast

I dont think I can deal with Millar for another game

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

You know you'd rather have Hinske than Pujols. Admit it.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 11, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not too bad

I would rather have him than Frenchy, but to compare him to Albert Pujols is insane.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

animal starts

does he break through finally?

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

i hate those things. I subtract -100 grission each time they are on.

black is not a los mets color. White,blue, orange please for home games. Gray on the road.

get rid of dumb black mets hat too

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That lineup

makes me a sad panda.

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

k

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

is it just me

or have we been putting out some of our most brutal line ups for the last few Santana starts?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

KK

It looks like Santana & Wright are gonna have to carry the lineup today

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The bottom of the lineup

= auto outs

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Describe please

I’m following on Gameday

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol the braves announcers

“here’s our keys for the game today for Derek. 1. keep it low lowe”

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

worst local broadcast team in sports

i have to mute braves games..its truly truly awful.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

derek lowe's on a super start?

with a 4.40 ERA?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

huh?

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob Sheppard's accent

is an accent that is dying a slow death everyday. Do yourself a favor and try to listen to some old Al Smith speeches. Many NYers used to sound like him. Sheppard will be the last announcer to have a good old fashioned Noo Yawk accent.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats with Atlanta and fat centerfielders

what are they doing to them?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

deep fried snickers

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That looks good

I deep fry Mars Bars with a beer batter after I make fish and chips.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've never tried one

i love snickers but just looking at it makes me nauseous

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fried Oreos for the win!

Fried Double Stuf Oreos for the super duper epic win!

2010: Year of the Grission

by R_Adragna on Jul 11, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

trust me

its extremely delicious. Its quite possible my favorite desert. But I wouldnt make a habit out of them

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes it

13 consecutive goose eggs for the Mets.

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

wow did you guys see this?

from tedquarters.

Jose Reyes said David Wright knows him better than anyone else on the team. Wright saw Reyes wince while throwing, and called Jerry Manuel out to remove Reyes from the game. According to Reyes, Wright stressed how important it was to the team for Reyes to be fully healthy for the second half. Reyes maintains that he didn’t further injure his strained oblique by playing today or this week, but said that Wright expressed concern that he might.

David Wright is pretty much our superhero, do you think he could be gm in his spare time?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

KK

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Soria?

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

soria would be my guess

maybe grienke?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grienke

has a really bad W-L record so I doubt it’s him.

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol tommy hanson is apparently first cousins with the hansons

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

fail

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

out for the year

He torn his MCL on a dirty slide at 2nd

by Balagast on Jul 11, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

torn acl, or mcl, or pcl something bad

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out for the season

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

by NYKings on Jul 11, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ike BB

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats good so see

He was drawing walks at a prodigious rate early in year. Then he went all Francoeur on us

by Balagast on Jul 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully that continues

since they’re not throwing him anything to hit

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitches Frenchy sees

this AB: 2

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Make it 3

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

wrong

as many pitches as it takes him to strike out

by EtSuKe on Jul 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call.

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frenchy

North Korea

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

best korea

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another Francoeur K

Holy fuck he’s terrible

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Too many free swingers...

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

at least we lead the league in something

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We do lead the league

in shutouts and being shut-out.

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

God willing he's gone as soon as Beltran comes back

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

no they'll send down evans won't they.

le sigh

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter single

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Sigh

Barajas sucks so much

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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Hank White

has been foresaken for that?

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Backup corner IF.

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Thole...

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

god damn it

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Sigh

That changeup looked way outside

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm glad we get to see a double play machine the rest of the year.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Jul 11, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully logic prevails at some point

and we get rid of Barajas.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

does logic ever prevail with the mets?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't expect that to happen sadly.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Jul 11, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We know

that’s not gonna happen

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

LOL

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

lol he might be struggling at the plate right now Braves announcers?

he might be struggling at the plate for his career.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Pagan gets that.

Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.

by TKFJ on Jul 11, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems reasonable.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Jul 11, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol the braves announcers think Barajas is back there because of his

caught stealing abilities.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha amazing.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Jul 11, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn,

I see they aren’t into research or things of that nature.

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

IKE.

Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.

by TKFJ on Jul 11, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job Ike.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Jul 11, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

I can’t remember the last time Davis threw a ball across the diamond like that; good to see the aggressiveness.

by sjohnson125 on Jul 11, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Ike Davis Dog

should have nipped Lowe’s heel.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

every time omar infante is called an all-stare

a kitten is castrated

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

also when he's called an all-star

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rightfully.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Jul 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johan

Dealing. Change is looking great.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

What is Mr.All-star Infante's BABIP?

Every ball he puts in play seems to find holes…

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

.390

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

all star snub up

also our whole offense lately

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

this

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any defense left for Frenchy?

Any?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

...pagan's stats are a mirage

they’re just a product of being really hot for 3 months

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

Package him with bay and get a pitcher.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

A RUN!!!!

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

professional rbi

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

a nubby single wil do.

cmon core…christ

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

a great defensive player?

really braves announcers?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

cora

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would be amazed

How many people believe that Cora is great defensively.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not horrible

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's pretty close to it

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

UZR/150 actually has him well above average at 2B this year

SSS of course

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But he has no range at all.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not horribe I would say

at 2B at least. Castillo is horrible (at this point in his career).

TZ has had him at about neutral for the last couple years, and he’s got a UZR1/150 of 4 for his career at 2B.

by Balagast on Jul 11, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it wrong for me to think it's entirely

because he’s latin, kind of small and sucks at the plate?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoo didn't kill the rally

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

DUBS

Is my hero

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

you're killing me ike

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, oh well

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh iKe

Q.E.D.

3-2, in the bigs? You might get a curve.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Wright and Pagan are literally our entire production from position players right now

Pagan+Wright WAR = 7.1

Rest of the lineup (excluding Johan) = 1.8 (1.1 of which is Ike)

by Balagast on Jul 11, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh,

Beltran can’t return soon enough

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

KKK

I like this Santana much better

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

KKK

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Ralph Kiner

Needs to have a heart to heart with Jerry about this stuff.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

he's not the only one

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol the fuck

the braves are having issues.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

massive power surge in the stadium

knocked off the broadcasts

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the Mets

it’s more like a power shortage.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucky ass hit

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Jerryball

IBB Cabrera

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

No?

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the runner is on 3rd

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

anybody have a pitch count for Santana?

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

56

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

59

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

54

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Bases loaded

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Santana isn't

following through. Or he’s short arming.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKK

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKK

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKK

thank you Johan

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKK

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Phew...

How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?

by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 11, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

c'mon cincinatti

need to push those filths back to a game behind us

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

of course keith

big apple brews:thats cool

by rcnt123 on Jul 11, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Teethcoeur double

Now he’ll never sit

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Leadoff double for Francoeur

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

mostly cause i had to miss most of it

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oy...Barajas.

Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.

by TKFJ on Jul 11, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

crap

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

God damnit

You suck Barajas

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Yuck, that was terrible

way to Fail upwards Frenchy

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Failcouer

Jeez Rod

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

damn frenchy

you have to unload on McCann

by rcnt123 on Jul 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

damnit it's free slurpee day

and there’s no 7-11’s within like a 200 mile radius

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

wincoeur morphs into failcoeur

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jul 11, 2010 2:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

what does Hojo do again exactly?

this is out of control

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

jack shit

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Collect a paycheck

and provide another example of employing a 1986 Met

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I dunno

Dubs loves him, Pagan’s been tearing it up. Can’t do much with haxorz like Flailcoeur and Rod.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how much of Dubs/Pagan

is them or HoJo? Remember, if HoJo is given credit for Dubs’ surge this year, he’s on the hook for Dubs’ 2009 season as well

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also true, a combination of factors most likely

Which is why its hard to say whether people hitting well (or poorly to be fair) is on them, HoJo or someone else

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ike?

is flailing around like a moron, and if anyone knows a hitting coach it’s a rookie.

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is one of the debates

that can rage for ages. I would have to have first hand knowledge of what HoJo is actually saying to the hitters (if anything).

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

JMO

But we keep hearing about Manuel and HIS drills, I think that Manuel is responsible for their hitting woes. HOJO is a puppet IMO.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

im fine with that stance as well

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing that kills me about this organization

is accountability. How much say does Jeff Wilpon have? Is Minaya a sock puppet? Do they actually let Jerry make roster decisions?

I just never know exactly who to lay the blame on for so many things with this team. Brilliant political strategy, and one that will confuse the already befuddled “media”, but lousy for us fans.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

and kind of horrible for actually getting mistakes fixed

or smart decisions made

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

knows=needs

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys

back off. I love him. (Sorry but hitting coachers are way overrated in MLB IMO)

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Balk

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

That'll do

Balk called on Lowe

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by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

so much grission

Somewhere, David Eckstein is jealous

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please

Eckstein is the Greek God of Grission, he made that happen.

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sitting on high, Eckstein looked down on the grission

and saw that it was good

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the mets add eckstein later in life as a coach

will our grission be to much for the mlb…thus multiple titles..ringz..winz…runzzz

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait wait wait

how does Barajas draw a balk???

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Up to Johan

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Nohan

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

failcouer is affecting everyone

a 3 pitch ab

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKK

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKK

Nicely done

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKK

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

The hell happened

with Pitch FX? No data for Johan in the 4th?

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

power surge in the stadium

it probably got knocked offline

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-2-3 inning

Now, MOAR runz

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

this

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they don't score

Assholes.

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ANGEL!!!

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Another hit for Pagan

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by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Francouer better get used to

the bench. There is NO way he keeps the starting job.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

mvp..mvp..mvp..mvp

or dubs

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

lol it would kind of be awesome

I know it will NEVER happen, and he probably wouldn’t deserve it over dubs. But how awesome would it be if Pagan won the MVP without even making the all-star game.

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he put sac and fould balls

in google and didnt come up with porno sites?

by rcnt123 on Jul 11, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF???

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit Cora

you try to hit it to SS on a hit and run.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

wow the braves announcer was way too excited about that

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

From Adam Rubin

Beltran spoke today and confirmed that he would be back on Thursday, July 15 when the Mets open the second half in San Francisco. He will start in center field and hit fourth. Angel Pagan will play right field and struggling Jeff Francoeur will be on the bench. Jerry Manuel said Francoeur will platoon with Pagan with Francoeur hitting against left-handed pitchers and Pagan playing against right-handers.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

why not?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll bite

Starting Pagan everyday gives us stability, and, more importantly, professional at bats. Someone who can and will walk, take pitches, work a count. Every single pitch thrown by an opposing team matters; everyone single one. If it means tiring out an opposing team’s starter early, or making their relievers work more, it matters.

Check out this lineup…

1 – Reyes (who, admittedly, has to get his walk rate up).
2 – Pagan
3 – Dubs
4 – Beltran
5 – Bay
6 – Davis
7 – Thole/Blanco
8 – Whoever the hell is playing 2nd.

2-5 will make pitchers work. Ike and Reyes have to get on base more, Thole/Blanco gives us a catcher platoon that might get on base at a .350 clip, and if Castillo is 8th, there’s another batter who can make pitchers work.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping

some catcher on a contender gets hurt.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Barajas is the first guy they want?

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

who else would be available?

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

zaun probably

possibly olivio, and snyder.

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i disagree on olivo, he will stay a rockie until next year

snyder for sure, but probably too expensive. zaun i guess, but he is just as bad as rod, except he can walk apparently

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt it

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

he isnt have as good an offensive career as they hoped

like this year his BABIP is awful but his line drive rates are equally awful

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fact he can walk

kind of makes him a lot better than barajas

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he is not a majority time catcher, too old

obviously rods offense goes down with more playing, but he can handle it for the most part

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm praying

for stupidity from another GM as well.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

if someone can trade for Bengie

they can trade Rod

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengie is a decent defensive player isn't he?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope wow he's awful

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

reputation ofter

proceeds actual ability. Good new is that most GM’s are old school guys who go on what people think about a player rather than actual skills.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pagan's slide

wasn’t dirty.

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he rolled at the end

your supposed to JUMP!!!!!

not stand there like a moron

by rcnt123 on Jul 11, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that sucked balls

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

...um is charlie manuel stupid

he picked kuo over kershaw…despite only having one lefty on the roster??

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

I dont care about the all-star game. We have no shot at the World Series

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bit early to say that

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

90

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got 75

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

by NYKings on Jul 11, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gina mentioned a powersurge

knocked out my broadcast for a minute.

I was looking to see if the homeplate umpire was not calling inside strikes from Johan.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap

it is 90 – sorry

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

by NYKings on Jul 11, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is pitchfx being weird?

I’ve seen a few Changeups from Johan today in the 75ish MPH range. That’s a bit slower than usual, is he perhaps throwing 2 types of Changes?

by Balagast on Jul 11, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

No, the broadcast

has had some of them in the mid-high 70’s. Those do have some nasty movement to them as well.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT A SHOT!!!!

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

whoooooooooooooooooooo

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

IKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

THE TRUTH

DINGERS!!!!!!!! RUNZ

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

And that's why

you only throw him off speed stuff.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

5

Some things never change

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by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

5

plus two WP

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we did a BB donation drive

then everyone who participates will be broke after the season

by secret defense on Jul 11, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

im hoping a good game today

can lead to a hot second half by ike

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

It's for defense

Feliciano is an upgrade there

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the 6th inning

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAH!

how many plays has Carter made today? Have they been pulling Johan?
Not too many, as far as I recall, so let’s yank a guy who has two hits (and has taken some pitches today!), and hasn’t been a defensive liability.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Matt Holliday just hit his 16th homer

Sobs

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

but did he ever play centerfield?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

We needed Jason Bay

because he can pull the ball!

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by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

and at this point Holliday looks way more likely to live up to his

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am holding out hope

that this year is like Beltran’s firs year. Which means a huge year for Bay next year.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hollidays on pace for an 8 WAR season

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he'll be underpaid this season

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

from Holliday?

I think around 6-6.5 WAR

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but shorter and less involved.

Even if Bay’s contract is bad.

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Jul 11, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

only 1 year shorter

and it would probably make more sense for us to overpay for Hollidays production for the next 2-3 years, than Bays. Hollidays could push us over the edge, at this point Bay’s just an expensive annoyance.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus this is NYC

if you can’t spend an extra 100 million while having your own TV network then you don’t deserve to own a team.

by secret defense on Jul 11, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

or we could have front loaded it

or paid more per year for less total and shorter years, part of the reason his is so long is probably because they couldn’t afford to pay as much per year and had to spread it out.

plus our entire reasoning seemed to be that Bay was better because he played centerfield

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bay's contract is 4 years + option. Holliday is 7 years + option.

Also, nobody was expecting Bay’s power to go missing.

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Jul 11, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yea
2014 option guaranteed with 600 PAs in 2013 or 500 PAs in both 2012, 2013

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Jul 11, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but nobody was expecting him to be the defensive player he's been

or as decent on the base paths. He wasn’t expected to be more than a 4 WAR player to begin with.

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh I don't expect him to be this bad all season

but even when the contract was signed we knew best case scenario is was going to be an overpay.

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless his shoulder is still hurting, and they signed him without a physical

I wouldn’t put it past them

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 years is a very long time

but I think Holliday’s contract is better still

by EtSuKe on Jul 11, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely agree

Bay’s contract isn’t that bad considering we expected pretty bad D. Nobody in the world expected a power drop like this.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe not this bad

but we expected a power drop and without 30+ HR potential, he is not worth his contract

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerryball

take out Carter, put in Feliciano

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Why Jerry????

Its the 6th inning for pete’s sake

by Balagast on Jul 11, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Gahhh!!!!!!!!!!

that picture of Manuel infuriates me.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 11, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

By that, I'll stop for good.

Just only wanted to remind everyone.

2010: Year of the Grission

by R_Adragna on Jul 11, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rage

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 11, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grrrr?

2010: Year of the Grission

by R_Adragna on Jul 11, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rage Virus from 28 Days Later?

They actually just had those poor monkeys stare at that pic of Jerry.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

moylan sucks v lefties

dont they know santana is a monster?

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Bye Ralph

great hearing you again, brings back fond (and not so fond) childhood memories.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice play Ruben

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

nice play ruben!!!

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Ruben

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

lets get some runs

and have captain fastball, pedro, taka, and elmer all ready

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 11, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

he must have read us hating on him

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anti-stat nerd rage!

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did medlin come from

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

He's repkaced Kawakami

as the 5th starter. Used to be in the bullpen

by asset on Jul 11, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but i mean how did they acquire him

he wasn’t a prospect for them

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drafted by the Braves

in the 10th round in 2006. JuCo player.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He came up through there system starting in 2006

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two pitches

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

we have to nontender Frenchy right?

this team wouldn’t be insane enough to pay him 7 million next year right?

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You'd like to thinks so

but prospects are not good

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

? huh

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooooh okay

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets FO is poor

But I don’t see how they could possibly go arb with him. Won’t happen.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 11, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he has a 2nd half like last year

They sure as hell will. Remember he actually is doing better than he was last year at this point.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming Voltron can come back and play a lot

I don’t think Frenchy will play enough to make up for the suck so far. And even if he dominates against lefties I don’t think they can justify 6 or 7 mil for a platoon player.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 11, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, especially with everyone and their mother

Saying Bay-Beltran-Pagan or Bay-Pagan-Beltran is the way to go

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to be in favor of a platoon

But now I just want Pagan everyday. Frenchy will get some PT but I don’t want Pagan sitting just cause a lefty is on the mound.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 11, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well knowing Jerry

it would happen regardless

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

and with

F-Mart, Duda, Evans, Carter, Feliciano? We’ve got more than enough backup/4th outfielders. Why waste the $$ on another outfielder when we need another starter and a damn good reliever?

Not that I’m saying F, Dude-A, Carter and Jesus are long term answers should someone get hurt, but that’s 7million that could be spent on more important, pressing needs.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

what up parn

yo what up cave

lets hit up magnolia

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't understand

but i lol’d

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Captain Fastball just threw two breaking balls

What is this?

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is this guy on the mound

… and what did he do with Capt Fastball??

by Balagast on Jul 11, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

K

Nasty slider

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

K

haha! Sit down Larry!

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

K

on a slider

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Kupcake

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice inning for Parnell

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I really like this incarnation

of Captain SliderBall

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah

we still have Rough Rider

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-2-3

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

He's due for one of those

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he only has those

when were losing or the game is tied

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Side bar

I am switching from a blackberry to the Droid X on the 15th. Anyone here have a Droid, and do you like it?

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a droid

love it, great amount of apps and its quick. Real easy to use

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is the web browsing

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

good.

fast enough for a phone browser. I can view most of the links. Embedded video is iffy but not a huge concern. pinch to blow up text.

its nice.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

recomend you download

lookout security-free scans phone for virus

scorecenter-espn based score app, customize to make your fav teams,METS!, first.
NFL mobile from VZW. listen to game audio on phone if away from a tv

kindle app. make your phone an e reader.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 runs to the Orioles

That’s kind of surprising

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

THOLE!!!!!!

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright Thole!!

Did he see more pitches that AB then Frenchy has seen all day?

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I swear, if Frenchy starts over him

The Mets are even bigger idiots then we think they are

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

nubby runs count!

pagan…mvp..canidate..for reals!

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by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

It's MakesMeSwearLoudAndAngryThings-Rod time!!!

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Awesome name

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok K-Rod

for once, lets do this by the numbers and not take years off my life

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Fasten Your Seatbelt

Frankie coming in

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

blown game rod!

some one grab me a beer i need comfort

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by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

This is great, 2 pitches 2 outs

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

heh

Gary said the same thing (though it was 3 pitches).

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't know don't care

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell is this guy and what has he done with KRod?

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else surprise we are tied for

the league lead in shutouts?

"we believe in comebacks"

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 11, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

in this ball park no

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Johan have

our only complete game shut out?

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have we forgotten about Niese's one hitter that quickly?

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank God for Pagan

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

METS WIN!!!

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

PIITB!!!

Sit your ass down Melky!!

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

like meatloaf says

1 outta 3 is pretty bad

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 11, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

0 outta 3 is much worse

Avoiding a sweep was absolutely critical, and we did

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

all right

48-40. 8 games (or 4, if you’re nitpicky) above .500.

4 games back; gotta say, I’m pleasantly surprised so far. With Johan looking good of late, with Dickey and Niese pitching extremely well, with Beltran coming back.
Unless things go just horribly awry, this should be a fun 2nd half.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

If Parnell is for real

He would be a HUGE boost to the bullpen.

by Joshuah on Jul 11, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yessir

and if they add a starter, keeping Tak-2 in the pen?

K-Rod
Parnell
Perpetual Pedro
Tak-2
E-E-Elmer

Not too shabby, though of course Elmer is due to regress a ton.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 11, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Acquiring a guy like Dotel would help

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by Syler on Jul 11, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

lowe is whining about a lack of run support.

lowe with 10 wins and a 4.40 era.

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by Gina on Jul 11, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Kenshin Kawakami

cries commits seppuku in a corner.

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Jul 11, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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